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Windows Media Player 10

Sorry if this has been asked already, but none of my searches yielded any results, so here's my question:
Is there a way, and if so what's the easiest way, to put Windows Media Player 10 on my PDA2K?

I am also looking for methods to install WMP 10 in XDA IIs. can anyone please help getting it out from the magician, or some other pda with wmp 10. please help...

Right now, it isn't possible. WMP is deeply rooted in the operating system, and unless HTC issues an update, chances of getting it done are about nil.
Microsoft's way to make people regret buying their $650 powered product... and for investing twice that in a Media Center PC...

until now.. 2005 still no WM10? this is crap...

hatoncat said:
Right now, it isn't possible. WMP is deeply rooted in the operating system, and unless HTC issues an update, chances of getting it done are about nil.
Microsoft's way to make people regret buying their $650 powered product... and for investing twice that in a Media Center PC...
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Seems the only potential way is to port Magician ROM over to XDA2 or XDA2s. Even that, it will be a long time coming. Hard to find someone with all the devices, and with deep understanding of the device drivers. I reckon that there quite a number that works only for Magician that will failed when used in XDA2/XDA2s.

Right you are, Magician has several different hardware components that will make this difficult, or in my opinion, impossible.
For one, Magician has a different Bluetooth hardware, and two, the device keys have different hardware (internal layouts at least). Anyways, HTC is actually very good in keeping current with ROM updates, I doubt we won't see WMP10, the only question is if it will be before WM2005 or not.
The only stumbling block to WM2005 on Blue Angel is the DIMCOMM (oops, sorry, Widcomm) hardware. It's up to if M$ will approve WM2005 devices that do not use their supported BT hardware (which would be every BT that isn't Widcomm-based).
Yes, Bluetooth in the device could prevent us from getting WMP10. But hey, that's Microsoft for you...

I don't really get it. I can't see why the player needs to be adapted to hardware. The pocket PC os has the sound drivers. Why cant they make a version 10 install thing?

Why do u all need that WMP10 ? Whats what u cant do w WMP9 ?

So Windows Media Player 10 is necessary for better DRM handling. There are several Video and Audio services that are not available with Series 9.
For instance, I buy all my music via Napster. Napster uses WMA format and even though Windows Media Player 9 supports WMA, I cannot play my DRM protected WMA without burning a CD and re-encoding it. I can actually play them from the XDA, but I can't play them from my 1gb sd card so it isn't very helpful. Also Windows Media Player 10 allows us to download from music rental services. Napster 2.0 or Napster to go costs 15 bucks a month and allows you to download about 1gb of music without paying 99 cents per song.
There are similar video drm schemes that demand windows media player 10 too. There are video rental sites that will allow you to download video and save them to your Windows Media Player 10 enabled device.
people download this stuff illegally those who choose to follow the law would really like to have Windows Media Player 10.

I see, this is A reason, i didnt think into this 'coz i never bought music from ms or apple. Now i understand ur side thanks ;-)

Album doesn't play mp4 files - Help requested

yesterday i try to get rid of some old apps instaled on my HD and i messed with the registry
i also instaled new apps
last night i tryed to watch a movie (mp4 format) that i now for sure it worked when i loaded on my sd card
now the HTC Album doesn't play it any more and i tryed with other movies and it's the same. i get the following message:
"No combination of intermediate filters could be found to make the connection"
what the heck is that?
is it possible to accidentaly erased some essential things or the new apps to overwrite something?
the pictures are played well, so i am confused
could anyone help?
thanks a lot!
best regards!

nobody?
at least does anyone have, or can make, a cab with windows media player?
it seems that there is the problem
thank you!

which rom you use?
try Windows Media Player if you have a cooked rom! or go to HTC Album press Option search your Movie

nope
i use stock rom 1.14.479.3(25874)WWE
album can "see" the movies within movies folder but it doesn't play them. i just get the mentioned message
same with windows media player but no message. just not play the files.

noris08 said:
nope
i use stock rom 1.14.479.3(25874)WWE
album can "see" the movies within movies folder but it doesn't play them. i just get the mentioned message
same with windows media player but no message. just not play the files.
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And just from my point of view, if ANYONE suggest Coreplayer, please do me a personal favour and ignore them. Whilst Coreplayer will play the majority of video files...due to a lack of hardware acceleration support it plays them incredibly poorly in my rather expansive experience of Windows Mobile devices.

Wiggz said:
... if ANYONE suggest Coreplayer, please do me a personal favour and ignore them.
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yeah, coreplayer does play the files, but i spent a lot of time converting them in order to play with album / wmplayer because of the hardware accelearation and now i can do that anymore
it kinda drive me crazy because i don't want to do a hard reset. AGAIN

how MP4 file association to WMP?
I tried with Total Commander, but i set param %1, i have error
if no param, just start the WMP.
Open from Library play video correctly

nope
tryed to do what you said with total commander - same result
must be something related to that message
but what filters are those? and what to do with them?

cmmon guys, don't let me hard reset again
have a heart!

so it seems that i am talking to myself here
back to old hard reset fashion way
omg how i hate that

it is me talking alone again
i fond out that this error message also appears on PC's and it is related to DirectX 9, and more exactly DirectShow
do I have DirectShow on my HD and I ersed something?
any way to restore / reinstall that?

and the last one
it seems that also youtube player doesn't work anymore
it gives everytime the message "cannot play this video"
so, to resume:
- Windows Media Player, HTC Album, DivX Player does not play mp4 files (i dont't know about Kinoma because i have the free version)
- Core Player plays mp4 files but bad
HTC Album returns error message "No combination of intermediate filters could be found to make the connection"
- Youtube Player does not plays files from youtube
- Core Player and Kinoma plays files fom youtube
Youtube Player returns error message "Cannot play this movie"
any ideeas what to do, except the hard reset?
thank you for any ideea!

Should We Install The Zune Software Now?

Im already sold on Windows Phone 7 ill be getting one as soon as verizon launches a htc phone with a big screen and keyboard, but i was wondering if i go to download the zune software now will this be the same software compatible with the phones? and is there anything we can do now with our phones or mp3 collection with the software now in preparation? like add album artwork or anything with the zune software? im trying to get use to the software before the phones launch

deadwrong03 said:
Im already sold on Windows Phone 7 ill be getting one as soon as verizon launches a htc phone with a big screen and keyboard, but i was wondering if i go to download the zune software now will this be the same software compatible with the phones? and is there anything we can do now with our phones or mp3 collection with the software now in preparation? like add album artwork or anything with the zune software? im trying to get use to the software before the phones launch
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the current downloadable vers of zune does not support wp7 however zune client will inform you of the new update with wp7 included.. with that said i would go ahead and install it to add all your music, videos and pics it is truly the best music, video client i have ever seen light years ahead of that lame itunes and it does not recopy your music and use up all of your hd space recopying all your music.

Yes, you should definitely install it. It's awesome software with or without Windows Phone.

paperclips said:
Yes, you should definitely install it. It's awesome software with or without Windows Phone.
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Agree with you. It can be a replacement of windows media player. of course, I am using it now, even though i did not own zune device. great performance, quick start up than windows media player, nicer, more functionalities and one most important function which is you can set and add your own media folder to the Zune player.
Scenario: if you placed all your music in the desk top "music folder", you can add this directory into zune and zune will recognise them and add them into your music playlist without create a new database like itunes did.
Give it a try...I'm sure you will like it...

i just downloaded it and its asking for a account in order to play specific content what kind of account do i need to make?
edit: does it matter if i use a aol or hotmail/msn account to register with zune

deadwrong03 said:
i just downloaded it and its asking for a account in order to play specific content what kind of account do i need to make?
edit: does it matter if i use a aol or hotmail/msn account to register with zune
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I didn't experienced this scenario before. however, i think it is doesn't matter you use which account, but it's more convenient if you use hotmail....because both are Microsoft products and there should be a mutual link between them and easy for you to remember the password when you use microsoft's products.

just to update u guys i downloaded it and its AMAZING never had a zune before but this interface is amazing and you can burn cds with this as well i will be using this over windows media player from now on havent tried burning a cd yet.
for those with a zune player are u able to get album art like u can on the desktop version? i wonder if we will be able to get album art with the wp7 version

deadwrong03 said:
just to update u guys i downloaded it and its AMAZING never had a zune before but this interface is amazing and you can burn cds with this as well i will be using this over windows media player from now on havent tried burning a cd yet.
for those with a zune player are u able to get album art like u can on the desktop version? i wonder if we will be able to get album art with the wp7 version
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haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...

sylau90 said:
haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
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LOVE IT i've been playing music all day and night lol never did that with windows media player i even played it and fell asleep

I enjoy using the Smart DJ feature in Zune. It is similar to Pandora in some ways. Really looking forward to WP7 I just hope the battery life can handle my music playing.

deadwrong03 said:
LOVE IT i've been playing music all day and night lol never did that with windows media player i even played it and fell asleep
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I was a zuner since 2007 I am happy to say =)
it definitely is 10x better than apple itunes and anything else around at the moment.

sylau90 said:
haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
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WP7 vers of zune will also grab album art and display the artist in the background just like the desktop vers..

rruffman said:
WP7 vers of zune will also grab album art and display the artist in the background just like the desktop vers..
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Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.

OP I was thinking the same thing, and I did install Zune.
My thoughts;
It looks cool, the interface is 'fresh' and makes iTunes look dated.
But the biggest problem is that I can't seem to managed the actual files and can't 'show in explorer'. That's a real problem for me as I let itunes organise my music so my file structure is a nightmare to actually edit files outside of using itunes to browse. (any tips)
I also find it quite slow, (1.3ghz 2g RAM), which was disappointing. If I had a better PC it might be better.
I think I may stick to iTunes, its not a big deal to sync as a phone is only going to hold ~10g anyway.

sylau90 said:
Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
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I don't think it will do that (unless you buy something from the Marketplace or use a Zune Pass). But it definitely does pull down all sorts of info like artist bios and other artwork/pictures. It might rely on being properly categorized/labeled first when it's been synced in which the Zune software will take care of for the most part. Also, when you plug your phone into any power, it can hop on your WiFi connection automatically and sync wirelessly.

sylau90 said:
Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
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I think you mis understood me it will dl it from the web not your desktop (the zune on you phone that is) using what ever internet connection you are using on you phone at the time.

RustyGrom said:
I don't think it will do that (unless you buy something from the Marketplace or use a Zune Pass). But it definitely does pull down all sorts of info like artist bios and other artwork/pictures. It might rely on being properly categorized/labeled first when it's been synced in which the Zune software will take care of for the most part. Also, when you plug your phone into any power, it can hop on your WiFi connection automatically and sync wirelessly.
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as long as the song have the correct title, album and artist it will get the album art. no zune pass needed. it works just like the desktop vers.

shouldnt there be a zune upgrade sometime this week or on monday since the official launch of windows phone 7 will be takin place monday?

deadwrong03 said:
shouldnt there be a zune upgrade sometime this week or on monday since the official launch of windows phone 7 will be takin place monday?
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Seems like a reasonable assumption, but since there won't actually be any phones available until the end of the month we might have to wait for the new ZUNE software until then.

[Q] Zune - The unsung hero of Windows Phone?

I bought an HTC HD7 on launch. I also owned an HTC Desire (unlocked and unbranded which I've now given to Mum).
O2 has a 14 day return period. Anyway I decided I really like the Phone. Many people bang on about what Windows Phone doesn't yet have, instead of what it does. I could mention sublime push email, Office, Xbox Live, beautiful apps, very smooth, fast and accurate scrolling, tapping and pinch to zoom, tellme, the best osk ever on a mobile etc.
But for me as a big music fan who always watches video on my device the killer feature is Zune. The Zune sub is £8/month but you get access to millions of DRM's songs and 10 MPs to download or stream. The Zune software on the Phone is awesome and better than the iPod player on the iPhone is which was the gold standard.
But for me the stand out is the Zune PC software. It is so fast, beautiful and works really well. As a Jukebox it blows iTunes (the weak link for PC + iPhone customers) out of the water. I love the Zune client. Things like out of the box wireless sync of your media is science fiction to our Android and iPhone friends.
Suggestions for Microsoft:
1. Please support the avi container.
2. Please support the divx/xvid codec.
3. Please allow the saving of MP3s directly from IE.
4. Please add a podcast section to the Zune platform in the UK like the US.
5. Please expand the film collection and add a zunepass subscription option for films for say £10/month.
Even without certain functions that will arrive in 2011, Windows Phone is enough to make me forget the touchscreen fiasco that was Windows Mobile 6.x.

100% agree. I have a Zune HD and love the overall Zune style and interface + the Zune Pass is an awesome deal that makes you discover new music.
Still have to wait here in the states for Sprint and the HTC 7 Pro...

The zune HD interface is actually nicer. Now that you have access to zune proper, if you need a seperate media player you should totes get one.

IM0001 said:
100% agree. I have a Zune HD and love the overall Zune style and interface + the Zune Pass is an awesome deal that makes you discover new music.
Still have to wait here in the states for Sprint and the HTC 7 Pro...
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That is what I am waiting for, I am not leaving Sprint to go to ATT.

I have to agree.
- Push email is absolutely fantastic,
- Internet Explorer and Pinch to Zoom really good
- Zune is a very nice experience, even if sometimes confusing (it synchronizes my new mp3s but not always delete the ones I deleted from the root folder).
I also agree that avi container as well as support for the divx/xvid codec notably must be implemented by MS.

I agree with this Zune is so awesome. Back when I had a phone and an iPod I always wanted a Zune but it was too much of a hassle to import (bare in mind I was about 16 back then).
The interface is Amazing, coming from android, I just love the heavily graphical UI with the Artist's picture in the background. I know that Android's music player was piss poor (Sense did improve on it) but Zune makes it look like nothing. Zune pass is great (albeit similar to Spotify just cheaper, I like the fact that you "download" though) and the software itself is awesome.
I don't really use podcasts, nor do I care about avi movies (I've synced over an AVI movie through Zune, zune just converts them, this doesn't bother me) although I will offer 2 of my own suggestions:
1. We need background listening support, this is more centric to the OS rather than Zune itself but what I mean is that apps like Last.FM need to be able to "catch" what we're listening to and then scrobble them
2. Zune PC Software is the best media player I've ever used but like above, no scrobbling, please enable plugin support =]

You can activate the Podcast section of the marketplace with a registry hack. Works perfectly:
http://www.techau.tv/blog/how-to-re-enable-zune-feature-in-australia/

brummiesteven said:
1. We need background listening support, this is more centric to the OS rather than Zune itself but what I mean is that apps like Last.FM need to be able to "catch" what we're listening to and then scrobble them
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By the way, did somebody in Europe find the Last.fm App.
In France, strangely, it's apparently not available on the market?! Weird.

It's a great meadia player for Windows, but seriously, don't buy DRMed music....

tomhierl said:
It's a great meadia player for Windows, but seriously, don't buy DRMed music....
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I agree. Zune paid downloads are MP3s with no watermarks. Unlike iTunes AAC with watermarks (and your iTunes account email address).
It is the subscription downloads which are DRM'd with Windows Media. The point is that you get 10 MP3 downloads which have no DRM a month and the unlimited subscription downloads are a bonus.
Its like having the biggest jukebox in your pocket on top of 10 MP3 tracks.

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...seriously, don't buy DRMed music....
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+1. I don't buy.
Seriously, I didn't imagine that DRM still existed... Really?
If you want to compete with something free, don't make it more complicated than the free thing.

Ogner said:
I agree. Zune paid downloads are MP3s with no watermarks. Unlike iTunes AAC with watermarks (and your iTunes account email address).
It is the subscription downloads which are DRM'd with Windows Media. The point is that you get 10 MP3 downloads which have no DRM a month and the unlimited subscription downloads are a bonus.
Its like having the biggest jukebox in your pocket on top of 10 MP3 tracks.
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So the 10 files you can keep are DRM free? That's nice.

Dazzla said:
You can activate the Podcast section of the marketplace with a registry hack. Works perfectly:
Excellent tip. Now have podcasts in England. Thanks.
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Of course. After the MSN Music and playsforsure fiasco Microsoft realise that if someone buys music to keep forver they want it in high quality 256kbps or 320kbps MP3s. That way they can continue to listen to them for years to come on any device.
Don't forget that Microsoft have many experiences of failure in the consumer world. But they keep coming back until they get it right.
That is why Eric Schmidt said that Microsoft/Bing were their only serious competition. Not Apple, Yahoo!, Facebook.

arturobandini said:
+1. I don't buy.
Seriously, I didn't imagine that DRM still existed... Really?
If you want to compete with something free, don't make it more complicated than the free thing.
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It's only DRM'd if you download music using Zune Pass.
I assume the DRM is because if you stop paying the Zune Pass fee, you lose your downloaded music (which TBF is understandable, they can't give you unlimited downloads for only £7.99 a month).
Also, I downloaded Last.fm as soon as I got the device, in the UK here.

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That's only in America, doesn't seem to apply in the UK. You don't get to keep any music once you stop paying the Zune Pass fee.

Yeah im happy with the interface, only problem is Zune refuses to install on any of my x64 operating systems. This means im forced to run it on my EEEPC, which with such low horsepower, is a very very poor experience.

Avis are good for working with uncompressed pre-production video, but its a legacy format outside of that.
Divx/xvid, yea. Zune works in tandem with WMP on Windows.
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Anyone having trouble installing Zune on a WinVP PC? I try to install the software but get an error message saying it won't install to C because access is denied. However, I re-downloaded the software and now it won't iniate the install. It unzips like it is going to install and then nothing happens.
EDIT- Figured it out. Simply created a "Zune" folder in programs of "C" and the software installed. Apparently the install process can't creat the Zune folder on C itself.

Still No Skydrive Official Music Support?

Theres already cloud storage for music on ios and theres google music already but theres still no official skydrive music or whatever from microsoft what gives here? are they going to do anything cloud storage related for music with wp7:

Great
You just gave me idea for a new app, thanks... I just hope I will have some free time to code it, currently I'm developing another app "use your phone as a hidden camera", to be published this weekend

deadwrong03 said:
Theres already cloud storage for music on ios and theres google music already but theres still no official skydrive music or whatever from microsoft what gives here? are they going to do anything cloud storage related for music with wp7:
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Try Anemoplayer. Its more proof of concept at this point but once the developer implements playlists and background support you'll be streaming on the go

N3croman said:
You just gave me idea for a new app, thanks... I just hope I will have some free time to code it, currently I'm developing another app "use your phone as a hidden camera", to be published this weekend
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Hey, sound like good idea to me, haha.
Should be able to shut the screen off , and still able to take the picture *sliently* haha.
Alright, back to the main point.
Skydrive allow you to have 2GB Free... would be nice to have music up there but i mean like, is it really necessary? because i never filled my 16GB with Apps and Music.

This is puzzling. Zune is by far the best streaming service of all three OSes. You can listen to anything. iOS is limited to what you have in your collection. Google Music is the stupidest thing on Earth - why would anyone want to upload their own stuff and then stream it from there? Why would anyone choose that over Zune Pass?

vangrieg said:
This is puzzling. Zune is by far the best streaming service of all three OSes. You can listen to anything. iOS is limited to what you have in your collection. Google Music is the stupidest thing on Earth - why would anyone want to upload their own stuff and then stream it from there? Why would anyone choose that over Zune Pass?
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It's free And it allows access to things that aren't on Zune

the problem is, zune isnt available worldwide.... in austria we does not have zune music. only zune video... skydrive music services would be nice ^^

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It's free
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But useless.
Erazor84 said:
the problem is, zune isnt available worldwide.... in austria we does not have zune music. only zune video... skydrive music services would be nice ^^
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Yeah, that's true. I'm using it here but I agree, it's not easy and most people wouldn't do it.
Still uploading your own stuff to the cloud and listening from there sounds weird to me. The value in Zune Pass isn't the fact that stuff is streamed, and that's the only thing that is similar in Google Music.

vangrieg said:
Still uploading your own stuff to the cloud and listening from there sounds weird to me. The value in Zune Pass isn't the fact that stuff is streamed, and that's the only thing that is similar in Google Music.
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I agree, Zune pass is the best of the three services. Although you have to pay for it.
On a side note, has anyone set up a Windows Home Server? I downloaded an app to connect to my server and now I can stream my personal music collection directly off of it. Zune Pass + personal collection on Home Server = endless music.

I have a Windows Home Server at home and that's where I store stuff including music. But I don't stream it from there though. The main problem with streaming is battery drain. It's much more practical to just copy music to the phone. If it had more generous storage I would have to do it just once.

lbp775 said:
I agree, Zune pass is the best of the three services. Although you have to pay for it.
On a side note, has anyone set up a Windows Home Server? I downloaded an app to connect to my server and now I can stream my personal music collection directly off of it. Zune Pass + personal collection on Home Server = endless music.
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how does home server work? Does ur computer have to always work? When you stream is the music history saved in the zune player shuffled with what's already on your memory card?
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