Ok, Hello to all.
I have one idea for mb how to update FS 7xx to wm6, but have 0ne problem.
My friend wanna update frimware from 720 to 710 (caze 720 have newest frimware then 710) but he can't caze bootloader show him error that this is not 710 rom.
And nah i told this. Caze i think that if we can see why bootloader don't pass this rom, we'll can update 7xx to wm6 ( caze we have wm6 for n500 and it has 64mb rom)
This is all theory...
PS Sry for eng, me rus ^__^""
PSS This is bootloader from 720
i have a three year old loox 720, i dont understand rom cooking or programming but is there anything i can prodive you ?
How about Fujitsu Siemens loox 600?
Can I upgrade this device to WM5..?
Sorry, I'm a new bie..
My Name is CePuX
I want to upgrade my fujitsu pocket loox 600 to WM5 base..
Would U tell me how to do that..?
Thanks in advance,
CPX
Hi vervol,
the flashupdateutility compare device version with version stored in the header of nbf file. Probabily if u modify the header of nbf from 720 to 710 with hexeditor the job can be done.
In the next month i try to port 720 to wm6 if i've more time.
Good development
Vervol said:
Ok, Hello to all.
I have one idea for mb how to update FS 7xx to wm6, but have 0ne problem.
My friend wanna update frimware from 720 to 710 (caze 720 have newest frimware then 710) but he can't caze bootloader show him error that this is not 710 rom.
And nah i told this. Caze i think that if we can see why bootloader don't pass this rom, we'll can update 7xx to wm6 ( caze we have wm6 for n500 and it has 64mb rom)
This is all theory...
PS Sry for eng, me rus ^__^""
PSS This is bootloader from 720
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Good news !
I have some time on my side.
What is the way to create a WM6 ROM for Loox 720 ?
Take a core for WM6 and than add WM6 drivers from other machines :
- wifi from hx4700
- bluetooth from dell axim
-
using this site http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HandheldHardwareXref
can maybe help us ?
What kind of tools do you use for ROM editing ?
I also want to upgrade my Loox 720 to WM5 or WM6 ..
Thanks in advance
Hello
I've just buy my loox 720, if you want some help for dev a new rom WM5 or WM6, i'm here !!!!
is there anyone working on this or again upgrade will stay myth for Loox 720 users ?
WM5 or WM6 for the Loox 720
Hi
it would be nice ... but ...
i think ... no one have it ... or ...
work on it ... etc ...
so it would be
nice to have ...
but a dream
greetings Sunny
Hi, people!!
Someone can say how is this project?
Best Regards...
Yea. Did the Project procced?
C'mon, people...
I have a Loox 720 with a broken lcd.
There is some chance to really use a WM 5 or 6 in my gadget?
Best Regards...
My Loox 718 longs for WM6, too... 8|
I got two of them, the spare one could be used for debugging....
Hallo uboot,
Sorry for the spam
Since a 2 weeks I was on the fly trying to bild WM5/6 on my Loox720, but I've broken my display!
Did you think about selling one of your two 718's? Or can you help me to find display for loox718/720 for smal price!
Thanks
B.R.
George
u.b.o.o.t said:
My Loox 718 longs for WM6, too... 8|
I got two of them, the spare one could be used for debugging....
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I'm sorry, but my second one's display is broken too, this is why I got two of them...
On Ebay, a replacement screen had the same price (around 90EUR) as a used 718, so I bought another 718 saving me from disassembling the broken one...
If you go for a replacement screen - mind that the following devices share the same display unit:
T-Mobile: MDA Pro / MDA 4 / MDA IV
O2: XDA exec
Vodafone: VPA 4 / VPA IV
Qtek: 9000
Fujitsu Siemens: Loox 700 / Loox 710 / Loox 718 / Loox 720
But be carefull to buy the whole display unit consisting of 2 parts: display and touchscreen.
PS: There is an app that lets you remote control the 718, helped me doing backups after the display got broken: http://www.mymobiler.com/
Thanks u.b.o.o.t.
I already know about the compatible displays !
I think too is better to buy an old one for the same money!!!
B.R.
George
If there still is an interest!
Before all I must concretize I'm not a professional! I do it for hobby!
Some ideas!
Because the WM5/6 has a diferent bootloader aka IPL/SPL, the first to do is to find a bootloader for machine with the same hardware specific:
And the most important is the memory, because the most WM5/6 devices have DOC memory and this is much diferent.
The most importent for the first running the OS is the memory addressing and the drivers for the same CPU TYPE and video. This is because we have to find devices with that same hardware!!!
Some of these devices are Intermec CN30B ...
In first simple lavel we have to search pics or open some devices in order to find one with the most similar hw.
If someone want to keep this project go i think this is the right way!
If someone have have the detailed hw specs for the a.m. devices please send this info to me!
B.R.
George
Hi George,
googlin' for the Intermec CN30B took me to http://translate.google.de/translat...hp?showtopic=31730&st=80&start=80&sl=ru&tl=en
...there, I figured out that you are one of the enviable persons able to read through the 4pda.ru pages natively Please keep us informed about what happens there!
I found a bunch of tools for the N560 here: http://fsc.newplowe.com/download.htm, maybe this guy can be of help...
And some other hacking tools there: http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/tools.html
I wonder what happened to wm6fsc's attempt on updating the 720...
First of all Happy New Year!!!
Thank You uboot
I was in a long good holiday and i'm still feel lucky no matter of the deep sh.. I've leave in work before
Now in my spare time I try make something for our so called "project" with my broken "precious"
Thanks
B.R.
George
Help me to upgrade f-s loox 720 to wm5 or wm6
Vervol said:
Ok, Hello to all.
I have one idea for mb how to update FS 7xx to wm6, but have 0ne problem.
My friend wanna update frimware from 720 to 710 (caze 720 have newest frimware then 710) but he can't caze bootloader show him error that this is not 710 rom.
And nah i told this. Caze i think that if we can see why bootloader don't pass this rom, we'll can update 7xx to wm6 ( caze we have wm6 for n500 and it has 64mb rom)
This is all theory...
PS Sry for eng, me rus ^__^""
PSS This is bootloader from 720
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HELLO FROM GREECE!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE HELP ME TO UPGRADE 720 FROM WM2003SE TO WM5 OR WM6
many thanks
http://download.ts.fujitsu.com/Down...wareGUID=CB3E24BC-B650-4CCB-AABC-129D9F981855
here is one more link
for testing purposes
greetings sunny
Related
heh, i`ve researched on the loox n5x0 series (htc maria?) rom format. now we can create custom roms.
Loox n5x0 OS_xxxU.nbf header format
total 42 bytes header, the rest is not crypted os rom image (what we usually call nb0 or n_d)
4 bytes - model name (N500, N520 or N560) + 11 bytes empty (filled with 0x00) +9 bytes version (e.g. 1.22.0001) + 1 byte 0x20 (space) +3 bytes language (e.g. ENG, ITA, GER) + 2 bytes empty (0x0) +4 bytes - reversed crc32 checksum (if we have, for example, 1163FCED, then we write ED FC 63 11) + 4 bytes - size of decrypted part (reversed somehow? we have 2100000 and write 00001002) + 4 bytes - rom base flash address (seems it it 80400000, we type 00 00 04 80, don`t play with it)
all this is true for OS_yyyU.nbf ( yyy means rom version), bootloader nbf is coded otherwise, it is usually named BL_xxx_G3.nbf or bl_xxx_G4.nbf. xxx - bl version. I suppose you delete file bl_xxx_G4.nbf or bl_xxx_G3.nbf. new pda`s come with g4 flash, it will be killed with g3 update. and, anyhow, bootloader update is always dangerous and not recommended.
wait a bit - in some days i`ll post a tutorial how to extract os rom image from n500/n520 and probably n560 pda.
Any progress on this? I have a N560 and am very interested in your tutorial. Thanks.
Any news in the N560 area??
I am eager to update the software of my N560... I would like to try the new Windows mobile 6. It's pretty annoying that this really good device cannot be upgraded somehow..
Well, hope to hear something soon..
PS: By the way, you guys are great doing all this stuff
Is loox 5x0 == htc maria? Any prooves?
it's htc dresden)) i'll post aku 3.5.2 for c550/n560 this week
Man that would be awsome!!!
Nice to hear this one!!!
Waiting for the goodie
Thank you man!!
wm6 upgrade
Rafe533 said:
Any progress on this? I have a N560 and am very interested in your tutorial. Thanks.
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I would also be very interested in upgrading my N560 to wm6.
I thank you in advance.
Shim
shimrob said:
I would also be very interested in upgrading my N560 to wm6.
I thank you in advance.
Shim
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No WM6 yet, but
http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/805977/n560.Alex_DFR_.AKU.3.5.2.rar - here is the rom with aku 3.5.2 for n560
For Loox C550
http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/808633/PocketLOOXC550FlashTool.7z - here is the flasher for c550, download it, download aku3.5.2 for n560, overwrite the files from the n560 update and open OS_213u.nbf with winhex and change n560 to c550
If you have german/french/italian/spanish pda but want to use this update, edit the nbf with winhex and change ENG to FRA/GER/ITA/SPA
Be sure to remove the password (fsc secure lock) before flashing
getting my n560 ready to flashing... go-go-go!
Does not work!!!
I have a spanish N560 pda. I wanted to upgrade its rom.
I did everything as indicated:
- open pda and put it in the cradle
- connect cradle to the power and the usb to my WinXP laptop
- in my XP machine activesync (4.5 spanish version) connects and recognizes my pda
- check there is no password protection in the pda (there was none before)
- unpack n560.Alex_DFR_.AKU.3.5.2.rar and open with WinHex OS_213U.nbf; change ENG to SPA; save file
- execute PocketLOOX5xxFlashTool; in the end I get this error:
"The language in this Flash Image update () differs from that on your device (SPANISH)!"
Well, I did again and again and again... same error...
Any suggestions???
PS: I would like to put its new rom in english, if it's possible!
Thank you
Hi sp3dev,
your update is quite intersting but I have two questions before I want to flash:
1. is the ROM affected by flashing your image, if flashing fails, can the N560 hard reset to original state?
2. Is there a tool which can fetch a complete image from N560 (with ROM)?
Can you give us a short info how you cook the image?
Where do you get the HW depended drivers (e.g WLAN, display..)?
Do you have any links? I have looked a long time
to find any info about upgrade the N560 or cooking Loox images.
Thanks
SPAschreiben not so, but ESN. then is OK ONE
I have with these Romes update. All OK ONE
Stucked
Hi sp3dev and everyone,
I did the upgrade and it went fine, the only thing was that the keyboard was English, I thought there were all in the ROM, and I wanted to get back to the first ROM, so and here comes my problem, I executed
pdocwrite nk.nb0 0 0x2300000
The result of this is that it get stucked at the very first screen, Is there any way to get back? How could I upload a ROM to the N560 in this case?
Thanx
Hi,
so how it looks with WM6 ROM. It will be great to have WM6 on my N560
Smarja said:
Hi,
so how it looks with WM6 ROM. It will be great to have WM6 on my N560
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Oh, i don`t know. we have xip with all wm6 modules but wm6 doesn`t boot yet. When we fix, and if we do, i`ll inform everyone
I did the upgrade yesterday eve, but i am missing the remote desktop client..
can't seem to find any link.. mtssc or any.. i looked in the windows folder but couldn't find it.
Anyone a hint?
oNNoZeLe said:
I did the upgrade yesterday eve, but i am missing the remote desktop client..
can't seem to find any link.. mtssc or any.. i looked in the windows folder but couldn't find it.
Anyone a hint?
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It's not there due to a bug. Likewise the transcriber does not work and hangs the system.
I suggest waiting until they fix it and upgrade then, if it is vital for you. I will wait for two reasons: it is probably buggy yet (only two known bugs now though), and I am loath to re-install everything from scratch for the next couple of weeks
Besides, people experiment there with pool size (with some trade-off in RAM) which may yield an even faster machine.
Also if you upgrade, you must not use an old (all-)system backup. Just re-install everything single piece of software you use. Note that some software may lose its registration since you will have a *different* PPC with new (and unofficial) ROM.
... and "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" remember?
AKU 3.5.2
Hi sp3dev,
I thought that in AKU 3.5.2 WPA2 was supported. If I'm right this is supported since AKU 3.5. After upgrade I noticed it wasn't in this release. Is it a mistake? or I'm really wrong.
and "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" remember?
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True, but i can't rembemer not installing any MS beta ;-)
And if someone posts a wm6 rom here, i won't be the first to try but might be second or third
Maybe my intention was to notify but wrote my text wrong..
i do like the rom..
Hello, I know that my LOOX 720 / HTC Bali is "only" PDA , but this might be the right place to ask.
I spent some time now looking over the internet trying to find any solution to upgrade my FSC Loox 720 to WM5 (or WM6 ) but it seems there's no ROM available for this PDA. Since it is manufactured by HTC, I thought there might be way, how to upgrade it manually with customization of some other ROM for some other (P/X/M)DA.
Hence the question is: Can it be done? And then, how it can be done?
I believe there's many people around the net, who would be glad to have their 720 updated, not only me. Thanx for any suggestions or any other help..
Have you found anything yet?
Same question from me.
My 720 have a realy nice hardware, only thing I am missing is WM5 or 6.
Everything is lost when the power goes emty. :-(
sigurdi
Anyone please help
I have also a lot of friends who have Pocket Loox 720 and would liked to upgrade their machines into at least WM5.
Thanks in advanced
still nothing guys?
nope it seems that the 720 is way to unique in terms of hardware components - one can not simply adapt an OS image from another PDA...
There's another thread on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378054
Can i oficial/unofficial to upgrade fsc loox 720 rom ?
gino1984 said:
Hello, I know that my LOOX 720 / HTC Bali is "only" PDA , but this might be the right place to ask.
I spent some time now looking over the internet trying to find any solution to upgrade my FSC Loox 720 to WM5 (or WM6 ) but it seems there's no ROM available for this PDA. Since it is manufactured by HTC, I thought there might be way, how to upgrade it manually with customization of some other ROM for some other (P/X/M)DA.
Hence the question is: Can it be done? And then, how it can be done?
I believe there's many people around the net, who would be glad to have their 720 updated, not only me. Thanx for any suggestions or any other help..
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Please ,help
[email protected] / Greece!
Any news about this from "Masters of cooking" ?
Maybe this will ring a bell somewhere: compare tech. specs of Loox 720 and HTC Universal. Very similar. HTC Uni has built-in phone but, as far as I understood, radio module is in charge for the phone and it is not integral part of the ROM itself.
If I knew more about all this stuff, I would try to flash HTC Uni ROM to my Loox720. Or, if I find another one cheap, I will sacrifice it "for the good of the mankind"
Hmm, I think there is no chance for the Loox 7xx.. :-(
if we found a Hard-SPL solution, then we can porting some older WM5/6 OS from other devices (Loox N Series)... But I have never seen an SPL. Maybe someone can tell us about the ROM memory area, so we can try self.. But I don´t know where :-(
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-378054.html
Hi!
I think we can make a rom if we use mkrom or er2003edit and swap
some files. I have installed er2003edit and the update of FuSi
but the nbf file cant open because its protected by a password.
I have written a letter to the support. After 2 days no answer.
Has some a Idea to get the password of the rom.
Hmm.. Try.
Siemens
siemens
FSC
fsc
fujitsu-siemens
uiui.. what was the internal code name of loox 720? (i forget)
I thinkl the password was the internal code name of loox 718/720
but i´m not shure, is long time ago, and there are no developers anymore within
FSC that know the password. (And after transmit FSC to Fujitsu some servers with
the answers would shut off forever...
I think one problem with WM5 is persistent storage, which is said to be not supported by Loox 718/720 hardware...
Hmm why? loox 720 has flashram (ROM) too? You should shift the memoryarea of the ROM from RAM to ROM. Some years ago we do that with the MDA/XDA series - maybe - is long time ago.. ;-)
Sorry, I should have posted the link: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSC_Loox#Loox_720
There it says, that FSC abandonned the WM5 update due to lack of hardware support for persistent storage.
Well, I know that the 720 has built in flash ram, but maybe it's to small to be used for both - the OS and regular storage which is now located in RAM, I don't know...
hehe, some "newer" modells like my htc shift have only 64MB FlashRAM too
It tried it again...
Pocket LOOX 720 2004.10
P/N:S26391-K151-V121 REV.A01
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
S/N:YEHD007997
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
M/N:10600405475
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Vendor S/N:HT411DE00520
Is standing inside the LOOX 720
but i flashed this device
2004. ( The first and last update )..
Now I wait for a response of FuSi. I ave written them a [email protected]
( Again 3 times no response )
And mkrom deosnt run on my computer. (????)
Hmmm.
Try this google PPC spellchecker/word completion dictionaries ( thoughtsmedia )
1. dumprom
2. mkrom
What about Neokit
I just downloaded Neokit and now i try to open Loox 720
image. It is called OSV_10009G.nbf. I hope it works.
If it works i will upload all new created files.......
i'm very interested in a rom update too!
i bought my loox long time ago and payed 500euro... now i even can't connect it to my wpa2 wlan and use it as a webcam...
very sad
Ok..
new Idea! There is a Programm called ROM extractor.
I heard that every PDA has a kernel like linux....
If i extract all rom Files of a wm6 device and put them into the directory Windows in the LOOX 720 ( with RESCO Explorer ) wm6 Programms should
work.
But i dont have a wm6 device...
Can someone extract the all wm6 rom files and upload them here pls.
Would be nice.
!!!!!!!!!!Can somebody explain me how to use MKROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good luck
I found no one want to do this, so i am tring to make it myself. But i know nothing about making rom. Would someboby like to give me some instructions? Just like 1st step you have to ..., 2nd step you have to ...
The used mechine cost me 20000 yen which made me unhappy ervery day.
Toshiba e830 has a 520MHz CPU, 64M ROM, 128M RAM, Wifi && BT, CF && SD/MMC, VGA display.
And 5 app kesys do not working in any games!
i have official 2003se update file including xip.bin, eboot.bin and a flashing program.
huangda1982 said:
I found no one want to do this, so i am tring to make it myself. But i know nothing about making rom. Would someboby like to give me some instructions? Just like 1st step you have to ..., 2nd step you have to ...
The used mechine cost me 20000 yen which made me unhappy ervery day.
Toshiba e830 has a 520MHz CPU, 64M ROM, 128M RAM, Wifi && BT, CF && SD/MMC, VGA display.
And 5 app kesys do not working in any games!
i have official 2003se update file including xip.bin, eboot.bin and a flashing program.
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your 2003se update files ARE english? or japan?
bluegatar said:
your 2003se update files ARE english? or japan?
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It is Japanese.
Hi there!
First of all, sorry for my bad english .
I've bhought a couple of days ago a brand new htc p3300, and now I want to buy a SD.
Can you please tell me if I can put a SD with a capacity bigger than 2 gb?
The problem is that at the moment I can NOT upgrade windows mobile 5 into version 6... so for wm5 exist a patch to solve the limit of 2gb?
Thank you !
if its new brand then it shoulb e WM6.0 Profesional.
Check once again the Version.
if it is Windows 6.0 Professional, go through the thread to upgrade for 4 gb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351958.
No, it's new but p3300 has istallaed wm 5.0, I've already checked.
Does the patch works also for wm 5.0?
I just buy a p3300 for my girl and it's a WM6: WM5 is too old, you think about a "last piece" of an old stock!!!
Good device (but my BlackStone is powerfull ) and I a new device buied it at 99€!!
D'rath
PS: HTC made an Official UpGrade to WM6!!!
Hello,
I need ROM image with Windows Mobile 2003SE for my Pocket Loox 420.
I found it on pocketloox-choice but is not free.
My question is:
Whether is unofficial rom image from this PDA ?
Im also interested in this ROM, i just found my loox 420 in a box and i want to give it some use.
I need the rom too, but I own the Pocket Loox 410
Searching for it, too!
Found one:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C0TS8EX5