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Hello, I know that my LOOX 720 / HTC Bali is "only" PDA , but this might be the right place to ask.
I spent some time now looking over the internet trying to find any solution to upgrade my FSC Loox 720 to WM5 (or WM6 ) but it seems there's no ROM available for this PDA. Since it is manufactured by HTC, I thought there might be way, how to upgrade it manually with customization of some other ROM for some other (P/X/M)DA.
Hence the question is: Can it be done? And then, how it can be done?
I believe there's many people around the net, who would be glad to have their 720 updated, not only me. Thanx for any suggestions or any other help..
Have you found anything yet?
Same question from me.
My 720 have a realy nice hardware, only thing I am missing is WM5 or 6.
Everything is lost when the power goes emty. :-(
sigurdi
Anyone please help
I have also a lot of friends who have Pocket Loox 720 and would liked to upgrade their machines into at least WM5.
Thanks in advanced
still nothing guys?
nope it seems that the 720 is way to unique in terms of hardware components - one can not simply adapt an OS image from another PDA...
There's another thread on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378054
Can i oficial/unofficial to upgrade fsc loox 720 rom ?
gino1984 said:
Hello, I know that my LOOX 720 / HTC Bali is "only" PDA , but this might be the right place to ask.
I spent some time now looking over the internet trying to find any solution to upgrade my FSC Loox 720 to WM5 (or WM6 ) but it seems there's no ROM available for this PDA. Since it is manufactured by HTC, I thought there might be way, how to upgrade it manually with customization of some other ROM for some other (P/X/M)DA.
Hence the question is: Can it be done? And then, how it can be done?
I believe there's many people around the net, who would be glad to have their 720 updated, not only me. Thanx for any suggestions or any other help..
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Please ,help
[email protected] / Greece!
Any news about this from "Masters of cooking" ?
Maybe this will ring a bell somewhere: compare tech. specs of Loox 720 and HTC Universal. Very similar. HTC Uni has built-in phone but, as far as I understood, radio module is in charge for the phone and it is not integral part of the ROM itself.
If I knew more about all this stuff, I would try to flash HTC Uni ROM to my Loox720. Or, if I find another one cheap, I will sacrifice it "for the good of the mankind"
Hmm, I think there is no chance for the Loox 7xx.. :-(
if we found a Hard-SPL solution, then we can porting some older WM5/6 OS from other devices (Loox N Series)... But I have never seen an SPL. Maybe someone can tell us about the ROM memory area, so we can try self.. But I don´t know where :-(
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-378054.html
Hi!
I think we can make a rom if we use mkrom or er2003edit and swap
some files. I have installed er2003edit and the update of FuSi
but the nbf file cant open because its protected by a password.
I have written a letter to the support. After 2 days no answer.
Has some a Idea to get the password of the rom.
Hmm.. Try.
Siemens
siemens
FSC
fsc
fujitsu-siemens
uiui.. what was the internal code name of loox 720? (i forget)
I thinkl the password was the internal code name of loox 718/720
but i´m not shure, is long time ago, and there are no developers anymore within
FSC that know the password. (And after transmit FSC to Fujitsu some servers with
the answers would shut off forever...
I think one problem with WM5 is persistent storage, which is said to be not supported by Loox 718/720 hardware...
Hmm why? loox 720 has flashram (ROM) too? You should shift the memoryarea of the ROM from RAM to ROM. Some years ago we do that with the MDA/XDA series - maybe - is long time ago.. ;-)
Sorry, I should have posted the link: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSC_Loox#Loox_720
There it says, that FSC abandonned the WM5 update due to lack of hardware support for persistent storage.
Well, I know that the 720 has built in flash ram, but maybe it's to small to be used for both - the OS and regular storage which is now located in RAM, I don't know...
hehe, some "newer" modells like my htc shift have only 64MB FlashRAM too
It tried it again...
Pocket LOOX 720 2004.10
P/N:S26391-K151-V121 REV.A01
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S/N:YEHD007997
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
M/N:10600405475
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Vendor S/N:HT411DE00520
Is standing inside the LOOX 720
but i flashed this device
2004. ( The first and last update )..
Now I wait for a response of FuSi. I ave written them a [email protected]
( Again 3 times no response )
And mkrom deosnt run on my computer. (????)
Hmmm.
Try this google PPC spellchecker/word completion dictionaries ( thoughtsmedia )
1. dumprom
2. mkrom
What about Neokit
I just downloaded Neokit and now i try to open Loox 720
image. It is called OSV_10009G.nbf. I hope it works.
If it works i will upload all new created files.......
i'm very interested in a rom update too!
i bought my loox long time ago and payed 500euro... now i even can't connect it to my wpa2 wlan and use it as a webcam...
very sad
Ok..
new Idea! There is a Programm called ROM extractor.
I heard that every PDA has a kernel like linux....
If i extract all rom Files of a wm6 device and put them into the directory Windows in the LOOX 720 ( with RESCO Explorer ) wm6 Programms should
work.
But i dont have a wm6 device...
Can someone extract the all wm6 rom files and upload them here pls.
Would be nice.
!!!!!!!!!!Can somebody explain me how to use MKROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good luck
Ok, Hello to all.
I have one idea for mb how to update FS 7xx to wm6, but have 0ne problem.
My friend wanna update frimware from 720 to 710 (caze 720 have newest frimware then 710) but he can't caze bootloader show him error that this is not 710 rom.
And nah i told this. Caze i think that if we can see why bootloader don't pass this rom, we'll can update 7xx to wm6 ( caze we have wm6 for n500 and it has 64mb rom)
This is all theory...
PS Sry for eng, me rus ^__^""
PSS This is bootloader from 720
i have a three year old loox 720, i dont understand rom cooking or programming but is there anything i can prodive you ?
How about Fujitsu Siemens loox 600?
Can I upgrade this device to WM5..?
Sorry, I'm a new bie..
My Name is CePuX
I want to upgrade my fujitsu pocket loox 600 to WM5 base..
Would U tell me how to do that..?
Thanks in advance,
CPX
Hi vervol,
the flashupdateutility compare device version with version stored in the header of nbf file. Probabily if u modify the header of nbf from 720 to 710 with hexeditor the job can be done.
In the next month i try to port 720 to wm6 if i've more time.
Good development
Vervol said:
Ok, Hello to all.
I have one idea for mb how to update FS 7xx to wm6, but have 0ne problem.
My friend wanna update frimware from 720 to 710 (caze 720 have newest frimware then 710) but he can't caze bootloader show him error that this is not 710 rom.
And nah i told this. Caze i think that if we can see why bootloader don't pass this rom, we'll can update 7xx to wm6 ( caze we have wm6 for n500 and it has 64mb rom)
This is all theory...
PS Sry for eng, me rus ^__^""
PSS This is bootloader from 720
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Good news !
I have some time on my side.
What is the way to create a WM6 ROM for Loox 720 ?
Take a core for WM6 and than add WM6 drivers from other machines :
- wifi from hx4700
- bluetooth from dell axim
-
using this site http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HandheldHardwareXref
can maybe help us ?
What kind of tools do you use for ROM editing ?
I also want to upgrade my Loox 720 to WM5 or WM6 ..
Thanks in advance
Hello
I've just buy my loox 720, if you want some help for dev a new rom WM5 or WM6, i'm here !!!!
is there anyone working on this or again upgrade will stay myth for Loox 720 users ?
WM5 or WM6 for the Loox 720
Hi
it would be nice ... but ...
i think ... no one have it ... or ...
work on it ... etc ...
so it would be
nice to have ...
but a dream
greetings Sunny
Hi, people!!
Someone can say how is this project?
Best Regards...
Yea. Did the Project procced?
C'mon, people...
I have a Loox 720 with a broken lcd.
There is some chance to really use a WM 5 or 6 in my gadget?
Best Regards...
My Loox 718 longs for WM6, too... 8|
I got two of them, the spare one could be used for debugging....
Hallo uboot,
Sorry for the spam
Since a 2 weeks I was on the fly trying to bild WM5/6 on my Loox720, but I've broken my display!
Did you think about selling one of your two 718's? Or can you help me to find display for loox718/720 for smal price!
Thanks
B.R.
George
u.b.o.o.t said:
My Loox 718 longs for WM6, too... 8|
I got two of them, the spare one could be used for debugging....
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I'm sorry, but my second one's display is broken too, this is why I got two of them...
On Ebay, a replacement screen had the same price (around 90EUR) as a used 718, so I bought another 718 saving me from disassembling the broken one...
If you go for a replacement screen - mind that the following devices share the same display unit:
T-Mobile: MDA Pro / MDA 4 / MDA IV
O2: XDA exec
Vodafone: VPA 4 / VPA IV
Qtek: 9000
Fujitsu Siemens: Loox 700 / Loox 710 / Loox 718 / Loox 720
But be carefull to buy the whole display unit consisting of 2 parts: display and touchscreen.
PS: There is an app that lets you remote control the 718, helped me doing backups after the display got broken: http://www.mymobiler.com/
Thanks u.b.o.o.t.
I already know about the compatible displays !
I think too is better to buy an old one for the same money!!!
B.R.
George
If there still is an interest!
Before all I must concretize I'm not a professional! I do it for hobby!
Some ideas!
Because the WM5/6 has a diferent bootloader aka IPL/SPL, the first to do is to find a bootloader for machine with the same hardware specific:
And the most important is the memory, because the most WM5/6 devices have DOC memory and this is much diferent.
The most importent for the first running the OS is the memory addressing and the drivers for the same CPU TYPE and video. This is because we have to find devices with that same hardware!!!
Some of these devices are Intermec CN30B ...
In first simple lavel we have to search pics or open some devices in order to find one with the most similar hw.
If someone want to keep this project go i think this is the right way!
If someone have have the detailed hw specs for the a.m. devices please send this info to me!
B.R.
George
Hi George,
googlin' for the Intermec CN30B took me to http://translate.google.de/translat...hp?showtopic=31730&st=80&start=80&sl=ru&tl=en
...there, I figured out that you are one of the enviable persons able to read through the 4pda.ru pages natively Please keep us informed about what happens there!
I found a bunch of tools for the N560 here: http://fsc.newplowe.com/download.htm, maybe this guy can be of help...
And some other hacking tools there: http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/tools.html
I wonder what happened to wm6fsc's attempt on updating the 720...
First of all Happy New Year!!!
Thank You uboot
I was in a long good holiday and i'm still feel lucky no matter of the deep sh.. I've leave in work before
Now in my spare time I try make something for our so called "project" with my broken "precious"
Thanks
B.R.
George
Help me to upgrade f-s loox 720 to wm5 or wm6
Vervol said:
Ok, Hello to all.
I have one idea for mb how to update FS 7xx to wm6, but have 0ne problem.
My friend wanna update frimware from 720 to 710 (caze 720 have newest frimware then 710) but he can't caze bootloader show him error that this is not 710 rom.
And nah i told this. Caze i think that if we can see why bootloader don't pass this rom, we'll can update 7xx to wm6 ( caze we have wm6 for n500 and it has 64mb rom)
This is all theory...
PS Sry for eng, me rus ^__^""
PSS This is bootloader from 720
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HELLO FROM GREECE!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE HELP ME TO UPGRADE 720 FROM WM2003SE TO WM5 OR WM6
many thanks
http://download.ts.fujitsu.com/Down...wareGUID=CB3E24BC-B650-4CCB-AABC-129D9F981855
here is one more link
for testing purposes
greetings sunny
Is possible to install the ipaq wireless manager existing on the hx2400 series on a ipaq 600 series
I want the ipaq wireless because the the default bluetooth manager on the 614 is not very good.
I have a rom with kitchen for hx2400 series, can I get the packages from that rom and install it on my 614? If it is possible please let me know how to do it.
Thanks
Same whish - Fr ROM
Hi !
I tried to extract iPAQWireless.exe from a French 114 SE CE 5.2.1616 (Build 18120.0.4.0 ROM MP-1.01.02 loader MP-1.00.00) to run it on my French 614c (SE CE 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2) ROM MP-1.00.06 loader MP-1.01.00).
Nothing comming up when I run, only asking about a runing auth and after that, I ear 2 alarms sound...
Anyone got an idea about the possibility to get it work ? I can send my .exe if you need it.
I also noticed all HP preview of iPAQ 6xx are showns with iPAQWireless on today screen... It's certainly possible, but how ?!?...
JM
Hi all,
I've just ordered a N560 from [email protected] with WM5 german rom...
Following these istructions, threads:
Loox n5x0 series rom update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294165
and
Loox n520/n500 -wm6 now. for real))
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320686
and
Loox N560/C550 128mb RAM Upgrade
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383784
I've noticed that there are many implementations of English WM6.0 and (working on) WM6.1...
I would like to create or modify the language and beginning to study the structure, to make an ITALIAN rom.
The roms linked on NEWPLOWE site are in english
[email protected]@p://fsc.newplowe.com/download.htm
and the extension of those files are .nbf
So just to understand the beginnings...
1 - How can I open, disassemble or simply view that rom, I've tried with htc64.exe but returned a message like that:
the ROM is for an unknown device, be carefull", then if I insist: "unable to decode ROM file".
2 - Can someone help me please to discover how to cooking rom, linking
some document to read?
Thanks in Advance...
sorry i am a bit of a beginner with all this but very confused. I want to upgrade my wm5 loox n500 with windows mobile 6 so i can run certain apps. I have read all the forums and i have downloaded the rom upgrades which say they will change my pda to wm6 - file appears to be os_122u.nbf. however after doing this which all appeared to go successfully my apps will still not run and it appears when i check that i am still on wm5
what am i doing wrong ? have i downloaded the wrong image / duff image ?
is there a dummy guide to upgrading the n500 anywhere ? is it the same for upgarde purposes as a n520 ?
any help appreciated
Craig
just by way of update after supposedly upgrading to wm6 it now says i am on version 5.1.464,
rom revision p224452-p919-v122
rom date 2006-09-20
bootloader revision 1.05
if this means anything to anybody ?
" 5.1.464"
== windows CE 5 which every windows mobile since wm5 have been build
on
where windows mobile 7 should use windows CE6
thanks Rude, just not sure how that helps me - or am i missing something ?
it gave you a version number to search if thats a 6.x version
another thing you can see is if you got threaded sms's it's one of the
few differences between wm6 wm5 apart from the glossy top panels