hi,
I'm considering buying the I-mate pda2k. I previously owned the xda2 and xda1. I noticed with the xda2 that the screen quality was very poor next to the ipaq and others...
Not enough backlit, or too much contrast. i'm sure you guys know about this problem.
Now i want to know if the latest model has the same poor screen, or have HTC improved it?
i hope you can advise me on that one.
thanks for your help.
SO whens the next blue angle coming out? I have seen any rumors on a phone like the blue angle(big screen,keyboard). Is it a discounted model? It seem that HTC is making different models. I live the wizard, but the screen is too small for me.
Have you guys seen anything?
actualy HTC Universal is descendant to Blue Angel ... but it cannot be treated so strictly .... I think the best combination of all will be HTC Hermes. The screen will be a bit smaller but it is still THE machine
The next BlueAngel? I think maybe, closest in form factor and yet WM5 would be the Sharp W-Zero3
raymondu999 said:
The next BlueAngel? I think maybe, closest in form factor and yet WM5 would be the Sharp W-Zero3
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Sharp is very cool, but only for Japan and wont work anywhere else.
I dont like the wizard, its too small. My phone is dieing! Im missing keys. Its totally overused(1year and 8months old!). Time for a new one, but I dont like anything thats out. I just want the Blueangle that slides its keyboard out from the side. bigger keyborad, same size, but thinner.
but it looks like nothing is on its way.....
If you want a keyboard, its the small wizard or the huge Universal. nothing in the middle............
Hey folks,
I was just wondering which phone was overall better?
I know the Xperia X1 has:
Panels
Hardspl
3.5mm headphone jack
Optical joypad
However, the touch pro 2 has:
Much bigger screen
Better speakers
Much better keyboard with screen tilt
A little bit more ram
Moreover, both phones have:
Same 520 mhz processor
Same apps in a sense
1500mAh battery
So what do you guys think is the better phone and explain why? Which one would you folks choose?
it's about 2 new threads in a week, with same queston.... try using search
here it is > http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
I think you've answered your question yourself. But being a Xperia user and also having fiddled with HTC pro2 for a few hours... my verdict is that if you can live without a digital scroll pad then HTC wins at every front. Panels are nothing to be jumping with joy about and within a week of careful use my Xperia looks like a weathered out 1 year old phone. The battery cover plate started getting scratched and metal base started showing through its edges the very day i bought it. Sony Ericsson should be ashamed of such cheap materials on one of the most expensive phones in the market. But hey... they're known for being shameless and giving a hoot to customers and value addition.
yeah i was drooling for a tp2 pro but i was kind of turned off with the lack of the scroll pad.
Is this a theme or an application?
I have decided to go Rhodium (TP2).
The things I base my decision on is:
1. The bigger screen on the Rhodium makes document reading, editing, Internet browsing etc better.
2. WM 6.5 is supported officially with new drivers from HTC. Sony Ericsson seems to have abandoned the X1.
3. A better keyboard.
4. The HTC RC-E100 remote control works with the Rhodium.
5. TV-out.
6. G sensor - the ability to measure acceleration and so on.
7. My X1 has the "classic crack" in the battery compartment near the volume control.
8. The screen tilt makes Rhodium to a better replacement for the Nokia E90.
tp2 tbh its the best choice in quality
1 ive owned 4 x1 and not that i wanted that, they cracked
2 screen and touch screen is way better than the x1
but if the x1 was good quality i would have stayed with my x1
why
well the x1 is more a phone that can do anything you want and the tp2 is more a pda that can call its to big and the power button is on the wrong side
everytime i want too type i push my screen off
Could someone take pictures with both phones so we can see the sizes.
like front pictures and side pictures to compare. the TP2 is much bigger than xperia but i like to see it.
I like the x1, it looks more like a phone that looks nice. i love the design of x1. it fits perfectly in my hand, not to big not to small.
X1 is much lighter than Tp2 and has a longer battery life. And the x1 has panels that i also love espacily the multimedia panel fore listning music.
this is the first Wm device from SE and i must say they have done a great job. ofcourse not every phone is perfect and have its faults.
And people don't forget the x1 is made by htc.
some functionalitys of TP2 is to much, like TV out you gonna use it in the beginning to impress ur friends but after a month orso you never gonna look at it anymore.
the only possitief thing i could find on TF2 was the screen size.
and am i the only one that likes the x1. i couldnt understand that people have cracks on theire x1. i used it fore 7 months till i got my first crack and that was because my phone fell very hard, every phone would had a crack if it fell down like that but the phone survived.
Ofcourse SE is very slow with updates that it looks like they abbondend use but you can't be sure. if they had abbondend use there wouldnt be R3 Firmwares. Fore now the R3 is fast an d responsive maybe there would be a new firmware when Wm6.5 comes out.
X1 looks coooooller than tp2 XD
anyway, tp2 is better choice good luck*
Because I want a phone which can put in my pocket then TP2 is too big for me, X1 is perfect, just the crack is disturbing, as long as U can live with the crack X1 is perfect (of course leave that original ROM, throw out the dam panels is useless, use the custom ROM, who our xda friends create to us)
Guys i just had a sneak preview of TP2 and i was impressed with the design and the body of the mobile. It has a very metallic back which gives it a sturdy look. Overall i would prefer TP2 for its bigger screen and metallic lookalike.
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Could someone take pictures with both phones so we can see the sizes.
like front pictures and side pictures to compare. the TP2 is much bigger than xperia but i like to see it.
I like the x1, it looks more like a phone that looks nice. i love the design of x1. it fits perfectly in my hand, not to big not to small.
X1 is much lighter than Tp2 and has a longer battery life. And the x1 has panels that i also love espacily the multimedia panel fore listning music.
this is the first Wm device from SE and i must say they have done a great job. ofcourse not every phone is perfect and have its faults.
And people don't forget the x1 is made by htc.
some functionalitys of TP2 is to much, like TV out you gonna use it in the beginning to impress ur friends but after a month orso you never gonna look at it anymore.
the only possitief thing i could find on TF2 was the screen size.
and am i the only one that likes the x1. i couldnt understand that people have cracks on theire x1. i used it fore 7 months till i got my first crack and that was because my phone fell very hard, every phone would had a crack if it fell down like that but the phone survived.
Ofcourse SE is very slow with updates that it looks like they abbondend use but you can't be sure. if they had abbondend use there wouldnt be R3 Firmwares. Fore now the R3 is fast an d responsive maybe there would be a new firmware when Wm6.5 comes out.
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No you aint the only one. People just like newer stuff, but the SE X1 is doing just fine especially with the fine people of XDA-Devs putting out the latest builds of WM6.51. In regards to the TP2, the screen size is larger, but how can that compare to the loss of a d-pad. The d-pad is what is needed to ensure that the largest application library for Mobile devices (Win CE of course ) is supported.
I would stick with the Xperia if you had to. Or wait till WM 7 devices next year. All I know is even though I love my Xperia, I will never buy another Qualcomm device again. Tegra all the way.....
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No you aint the only one. People just like newer stuff, but the SE X1 is doing just fine especially with the fine people of XDA-Devs putting out the latest builds of WM6.51. In regards to the TP2, the screen size is larger, but how can that compare to the loss of a d-pad. The d-pad is what is needed to ensure that the largest application library for Mobile devices (Win CE of course ) is supported.
I would stick with the Xperia if you had to. Or wait till WM 7 devices next year. All I know is even though I love my Xperia, I will never buy another Qualcomm device again. Tegra all the way.....
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Thnx
with people wanting newer phones isn't the phones fault but the OS. most think if they get a new phone that it will be faster. but i'm using wm for years now and i must say the OS is really really slow. the speed difference between htc touch(elf) and the xperia isn't that much its a little bit faster.
for the screen a bigger screen is always nice but i think its only has affect if its 6 inch. not the little 0.6 inch bigger if you say you want to watch movies witch you phone the battery life won't less a full movie if it does it won't less the day. its nice fore visiting websites but how long or how many sites do you u visit its only more battery usage. the battery life on wm phones is already a day. Why do people want a bigger screen, 3 inch is really enough. thats the biggest difference between these two. they have the same cpu the same ram/rom. adn if you look at these two links at gsmarena. they say the battery life of xperia is slight better than TP2.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x1-2246.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro2-2690.php
the reason why i choosed xperia was the size its was not too big almost the same size as te SE k800. it has a neat design and it has a keyboard. i used a lot of pones en the xperia is on of the best phones i used till now.
I am a Kaiser user thinking of upgrading to the Rhodium, but one of my critical upgrade requirements is to have a better screen than the one that came with the Kaiser. I am NOT talking about screen resolution (I already know that the Rhodium has higher resolution). I am talking about the light reflection properties.
The screen that comes with the Kaiser can be seen clearly when indoors, but it is impossible to see when you are outside. It reflects too much light. Other phones (for example on some of the latest Blackberries) have screens that can be seen PERFECTLY both indoors and outdoors.
Can somebody please tell me whether the outdoor reflection problems with the Kaiser are solved on the Rhodium?
I have a kaiser as well and tp2 is far better outdoor. The ambient light sensor and auto backlight adjustements really help...
I was going to ask the same question, so im just as interested in peoples response to this. thanks
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I have a kaiser as well and tp2 is far better outdoor. The ambient light sensor and auto backlight adjustements really help...
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I noticed you are from the UK. Have you tested it on a really sunny day? Because I am pretty sure that the results will be different on dark rainy day (like you have in London regularly...I am from the Netherlands, so its not much different) than on a sunny bright day.
Much better indeed
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I noticed you are from the UK. Have you tested it on a really sunny day? Because I am pretty sure that the results will be different on dark rainy day (like you have in London regularly...I am from the Netherlands, so its not much different) than on a sunny bright day.
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I'm from Israel, and upgraded my Kaiser for a TP2 a few weeks ago. Indeed the screen is much better, even outdoors on sunny summer days (LOTS of sun here. ).
It's still not perfect (what can ever be?), but the light sensor does help and if you choose your backgrounds well, it's great. I can use the phone without having to guess where things are (as I had to do with the Kaiser) and on the black on white background screens (emails, text, ...) it's even better.
I use it for turn-by-turn navigation on the car and it's good too, although the silver frame sometimes reflects the sun and it's a bit annoying, but it doesn't interfere with screen reading in any way.
I'm really happy with the upgrade and think the TP2 is the best phone out there by far.
I live in Arizona and when I walk outside the screen disappears! OTOH, so do the screens of all other devices as well.
I'm hoping someone makes an anti-glare screen protector for the TMoUS TP2 soon.
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once they make it, and I'm sure they will, get a boxwave antiglare protector. I use them on all mydevices dating back to my original sony clie and swear by them. Problem solved.
The screen is not very good outdoors in sunlight or in shade. It is too hard to see. I am a BlackBerry user and can always see my Bold and 8900 in the car but I cannot safely even attempt to use the Touch Pro 2.
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I live in Arizona and when I walk outside the screen disappears! OTOH, so do the screens of all other devices as well.
I'm hoping someone makes an anti-glare screen protector for the TMoUS TP2 soon.
S
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Try here, they had some good reviews
http://cgi.ebay.com/5-ANTI-GLARE-LC...ries?hash=item518b4c35ff&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
sleonard said:
I live in Arizona and when I walk outside the screen disappears! OTOH, so do the screens of all other devices as well.
I'm hoping someone makes an anti-glare screen protector for the TMoUS TP2 soon.
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I can't understand why a company like HTC would release a brand new model of the Kaiser (now called Rhodium), and not fix the critical issues of its predecessor. The latest versions of the Blackberries work very well outdoors. I had a curve model 8900. It was not a touch sensitive screen, so I don't know if that could make the difference. Perhaps somebody with an iPhone or another touch screen device can tell us if they work well outdoors.
As a previous Kaiser Owner, and living in the sunny UK
The Screen of the TP2 is much better outdoors, the Kaiser was very bad for anything outdoors... GPS etc etc...
DOXBOX on Rhodium?
Hello, is there a doxbox that can work on the rhodium?
Would like to play Command & Conquer on this badboy.
Thanks for all the replies. It seems that most of you feel that there is definitely and improvement in the Rhodium screen characteristics which makes it useful when operating out in the open sky. That's definitely a plus point that is leaning me towards upgrading.
The other thing that I want to check before deciding whether this is a worthwhile upgrade for me is the video acceleration.
Could those of you who answered this thread go to the following one and tell us about your video acceleration.? As you provably know the Kaiser (ATT Tilt / TyTn II) has capable chips, but no drivers for proper acceleration and the video playback, games playback and others suffers as a result. I am wondering if the Rhodium comes with the right drivers to operate the video chips, and how the video performance compares to other devices out there. The Kaiser underperformed even really cheap phones, so hence my concern.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558791
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if you actually use the kaiser light to the highest! while outdoor, you should have a better view then say using the TP2. I was with my wife, and I gave her my tilt, until I get the tmobile agree to sign a new contract for mytouch 3g since I already have five lines...on a family plain. when I noticed her phone was bright I was like let me check mine, and I couldn't see....I think tilt is a cool phone even after two years....you know you better keep tilt if you don't need to upgrade...PS my TP2 was on auto light!
Iphone 2g is not very good in the sunlight, neither is the TP2 or the T-mobile google phones, either one. The BB 8900 is very usable in direct sunlight. Of the phones mentioned I'd have to say that the TP2 screen is the least legible in sunlight. That's the way it seems to go with cell phones, unfortunately they all have their own strengths and weaknesses.
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if you actually use the kaiser light to the highest! while outdoor, you should have a better view then say using the TP2. I was with my wife, and I gave her my tilt, until I get the tmobile agree to sign a new contract for mytouch 3g since I already have five lines...on a family plain. when I noticed her phone was bright I was like let me check mine, and I couldn't see....I think tilt is a cool phone even after two years....you know you better keep tilt if you don't need to upgrade...PS my TP2 was on auto light!
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Quite surprised to read your statement recommending us to keep the Tilt instead of upgrading. I like it when somebody takes a bold stance like this one; but I would appreciate it if you could elaborate a bit more on your recommendation.
I live in Portugal and in the summer i have to go into shade to see my screen, but as another poster noted, I've never had any colour screen PDA or phone work. The only screen I know here that really works was a friends Motorola with what appeared to be an e-ink screen (black and white, looked like print).
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I live in Portugal and in the summer i have to go into shade to see my screen, but as another poster noted, I've never had any colour screen PDA or phone work. The only screen I know here that really works was a friends Motorola with what appeared to be an e-ink screen (black and white, looked like print).
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Is that your experience with the Rhodium or with the Kaiser?
I guess I have been spoiled! I had a Blackberry Curve 8900 and I could use it as a GPS outdoors without ANY problems what-so-ever with regards to seeing the screen even in bright daylight, without shade, etc.
The Blackberry Curve 8900 does not have a touch screen though. So perhaps the touch screen technology isn't 'sun and sky' compatible. Does anybody have experience using the new models of the iphone outdoors? I don't want an iphone, but I am curious to know if that touch screen technology suffers from the same problems as the Kaiser and Rhorium
I have a Kaiser and TP2 if much better. Go for it.
I purchased a Rhodium (Att Tilt 2) and I am very happy with it. The screen quality is a huge improvement. It reads well outside, reacts well, etc. My only complaint is that I miss the up/down/right/left/center 'joystick' like keys on the Kaiser.