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Better Safe than Sorry - Do Not Want to Brick My Phone

I very much want to upgrade my O2 Orbit Rom to either WM6 or the B&B developed by Tom. Right now it apparently does not have the UK WM5 on it; according to the Ebay seller I bought it from I would have to go to the Hong Kong site to get an "official update" but the seller claims it would be better not to do so as people are reporting losing their radio and bluetooth. So I have read and re-read through these threads. I hear stories of phones not working after being flashed so I want to be super cautious. Here is what I think I do:
1. Run USPL and wait 5 - 10 minutes until the computer reboots itself.
2. Run either RUU for Tom's B&B or run RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.28_02.67.90_Ship.exe
for the UK WM6 upgrade.
And I should be upgraded, right?
If I end up with huge problems, I think I can revert back to the original factory ROM with the file called:
Arteimg.nbh
But how do I run a nbh file?
Which OS is least likely to cause problems?
Please be gentle with me - I'm a 51 year old woman who is in love with my Orbit and can't live without it so I don't want to take any chances to turn it into a brick. On the other hand, I'd really like to have WM6 and can't get it from the UK d/l site because my S/N matches the Hong Kong site. I live in the US and I'm not sure if I want a Hong Kong OS. I have honestly read through these forums and tried to get all my answers here .... but I just want to double check before I make a big mistake and blow up my phone. Thank you all.

Cinamon said:
I very much want to upgrade my O2 Orbit Rom to either WM6 or the B&B developed by Tom. Right now it apparently does not have the UK WM5 on it; according to the Ebay seller I bought it from I would have to go to the Hong Kong site to get an "official update" but the seller claims it would be better not to do so as people are reporting losing their radio and bluetooth. So I have read and re-read through these threads. I hear stories of phones not working after being flashed so I want to be super cautious. Here is what I think I do:
1. Run USPL and wait 5 - 10 minutes until the computer reboots itself.
2. Run either RUU for Tom's B&B or run RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.28_02.67.90_Ship.exe
for the UK WM6 upgrade.
And I should be upgraded, right?
If I end up with huge problems, I think I can revert back to the original factory ROM with the file called:
Arteimg.nbh
But how do I run a nbh file?
Which OS is least likely to cause problems?
Please be gentle with me - I'm a 51 year old woman who is in love with my Orbit and can't live without it so I don't want to take any chances to turn it into a brick. On the other hand, I'd really like to have WM6 and can't get it from the UK d/l site because my S/N matches the Hong Kong site. I live in the US and I'm not sure if I want a Hong Kong OS. I have honestly read through these forums and tried to get all my answers here .... but I just want to double check before I make a big mistake and blow up my phone. Thank you all.
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don't worry, just run the USPL tool, after running this tool, it will reboot your phone automatically... Than flash your phone with a WM6 rom or the B&B rom... And thats it... make sure you backup your contacts before you do the flash, cause it will wipe all your contacts from your phone.
If you don't like the rom you flashed, just run USPL again, and flash it with another rom or back to factory rom.
If you've got any probs, just let us know... there is a lot of wizards out here, who are willing to help. You also can pm me anytime. I'm glad to help if I can.
cheers and goodluck

Beat me to it coolGadget!!
Anyway if you want to see how the Arteimg.nbh is used read this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
You'll need a SD_card to do it.
Good luck, but you wont need it as you seem to have done your homework and as co0lGadget says if you get stuck we'll give you a hand.

macguffin said:
Beat me to it coolGadget!!
Anyway if you want to see how the Arteimg.nbh is used read this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
You'll need a SD_card to do it.
Good luck, but you wont need it as you seem to have done your homework and as co0lGadget says if you get stuck we'll give you a hand.
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Hey Matt, good to see you here... I didn't beat you mate... cause I was pretty sure, Wizards like you will be very helpfull too ;-)

You Guys are the best!
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again

Cinamon said:
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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Don't worry u need Only 30 minutes for update Rom.But remember need Run USPL by Pof.When your Phone have SPL 1.11 u can update any Rom u like..!
Cheers..!

Cinamon said:
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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I think you have enough time, the whole procedure takes less than 15mins.
No need to take out the card, just follow the instructions above.
Good luck!

Cinamon said:
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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No need to take the card out.
You probably do have time USPL take about 3 mins flash of ROM takes about 10-15
However these things are always best to do if you're not in a rush or desperate to get your phone up and running. Also if you put tom's b&b on you'll need about 30 minutes to just play with it

tom_codon said:
Don't worry u need Only 30 minutes for update Rom.But remember need Run USPL by Pof.When your Phone have SPL 1.11 u can update any Rom u like..!
Cheers..!
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When your Phone have SPL 1.11 - just in case you're wondering this is one of the red numbers you see when the phone first starts up, but you probably already knew that.

Holding my breath
OK, I'm going to do it - soft resetting now. But before I take the plunge, will you wizards please tell me - will I have the least problems with the UK WM6 release (which I found posted here as I can't d/l it from the site) or Tom's B&B which looks very cool but seems to have caused problems for some people. I trust your judgement - please tell me what you think. And btw, even though I'm old I love gadgets and cool tricks, so TouchFlo looks awesome to me, unless it is going to cause problems when installing files etc as I've read here.

Cinamon said:
OK, I'm going to do it - soft resetting now. But before I take the plunge, will you wizards please tell me - will I have the least problems with the UK WM6 release (which I found posted here as I can't d/l it from the site) or Tom's B&B which looks very cool but seems to have caused problems for some people. I trust your judgement - please tell me what you think. And btw, even though I'm old I love gadgets and cool tricks, so TouchFlo looks awesome to me, unless it is going to cause problems when installing files etc as I've read here.
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WM6 is ok but not that different from WM5 to look at and I guarantee that by tomorrow you'll have wanted to see what tom's rom is like and had to re-flash.
Since using toms rom i've been able to dump a lot of my third party software (mostly stuff from spb) and as you say it's very cool to looks at and will impress all your friends.

OK Tom's it is .......
Cross your fingers for me please ....

Postponing the Flash
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.

Cinamon said:
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.
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Hi Interesting...!
Take care..!

Cinamon said:
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.
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You probably has the WM5 bug or something. With the WM5 rom, sometimes it will mess up your sd card with folders in strange caracters etc...
But you're right, if you want to do this, and its your first time, you better do it when you're not in the rush... just prepare good, sit back and relax, and the flash will be good ;-)
I'm not sure if I'll be able to get online tonight... cause my internet is shut off since friday, my provider can't tell me where the problem is, and how to fix it... So I hope tonight after work, I'll be able to get online at home. And be able to help you out if needed... so fingers cross...
GoodLuck...

CoolGadget said:
You probably has the WM5 bug or something. With the WM5 rom, sometimes it will mess up your sd card with folders in strange caracters etc......
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I've been watching this thread and sorry to hi jack the thread. But, this was one of my questions about updating ROMS from original WM5. I haven't gotten the phone yet (P3300), but I want to upgrade it to B&B when I get it. Should I run the patch for the card corruption fix before I do the USPL and ROM flash? Or just go strait to the USPL and ROM update?
I've been reading for a long time but I'm still not very clear on what programs to use to flash and all that. I also want to be able to store my original ROM just in case I want to revert back to OEM. How do I do that?

shawndh said:
I've been watching this thread and sorry to hi jack the thread. But, this was one of my questions about updating ROMS from original WM5. I haven't gotten the phone yet (P3300), but I want to upgrade it to B&B when I get it. Should I run the patch for the card corruption fix before I do the USPL and ROM flash? Or just go strait to the USPL and ROM update?
I've been reading for a long time but I'm still not very clear on what programs to use to flash and all that. I also want to be able to store my original ROM just in case I want to revert back to OEM. How do I do that?
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who's your phone provider?

macguffin said:
who's your phone provider?
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I'll be using it on T-Mobile, USA. The phone will also be purchased in the US.
BTW, Just to clarify, I'm buying the phone from an online store, so the phone will be unlocked. I'll have to reconfigure it to work with T-Mobile SMS and T-Mobile Web service.

Just run the USPL tool and then the rom of your choice.
If anything does go wrong you can get an original wm5 rom from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/17854890...0_wwe_ship.exe
If you brick your device just go into the bootloader screen and run this it will get you back to wm5 and you can try again.

macguffin said:
Just run the USPL tool and then the rom of your choice.
If anything does go wrong you can get an original wm5 rom from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/17854890...0_wwe_ship.exe
If you brick your device just go into the bootloader screen and run this it will get you back to wm5 and you can try again.
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So I can't "dump" and store my own ROM? I have to download a dumped WM5 OEM from from someone else? I just wanted to make sure that I could put it back exactly the way it was just in case I needed to send it back or ship to HTC for repairs or something.
Also, will they be able to tell that the ROM was flashed and flashed back if I send it in for warranty repairs?

Quick How-To for gps/rev a flash/upgrade

ok well i just made up this list a while ago to help someone out, and have ended up giving it to quite a few ppl now, so i figured i might as well post it here under an appropriate title for all to easily see and access.
i know dharvey wrote a great tutorial, and that there are prob others, but..what the heck. plus this is pretty quick and easy, though i cant say that it is as full and thought out and great as dharvey4651's (thx man!)...
IMPORTANT!!! ONLY SPRINT users follow below steps 5 and 8-11!! Altell users can follow all the steps except step 5 as long as they use a different ppst.exe, not the one mentioned below.
"#1- Backup all pim info and anything else you might want.
#2- Ensure you are currently running your carriers original official oem rom (os and radio) (if you have never flashed it at all then dont worry youre good to go).
#3- Unlock using imcokemans 2.31 unlocker (this for gps roms)
#4- run the sprint leaked rom.exe (here, close to the bottom where it says "original rom")
#5- SPRINT ONLY:allow all customizations to complete and run (i know - it takes a lil while)
#6- flash to desired rom.
#7- after she's all booted up, hard-reset.
#8- download and run cab from here (altell users run your own ppst stuff on the same post, non-sprint and non-altell users SKIP TO STEP 12): http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=282955&postcount=139
#9- allow soft-rest.
#10- navigate to \windows folder and run ppst.exe
#11- allow soft reset.
#12- allow boot-up, customize, restore pim info etc...
credit to boggsie"

didnt use unlocker
I just ran the leaked ROM upgrade. It found my phone and flashed it. I never ran any of the SPL unlockers. Should I be worried about not being able to unlock later, or have trouble flashing an 'Official' release?

d1rtyd33z said:
I just ran the leaked ROM upgrade. It found my phone and flashed it. I never ran any of the SPL unlockers. Should I be worried about not being able to unlock later, or have trouble flashing an 'Official' release?
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hey nope you'll be just fine, assuming that you arent going to flash to a custom rom. what is your current spl? you just will not be able to flash a custom rom until you unlock.

what happened to the link for the leaked rom ????

avalanchedude said:
what happened to the link for the leaked rom ????
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oops lol must not have copied over quite right and how i wanted...updated first post
thanks.

HI i have been reading alot on this new rom, will this work on bell and also is there a way to "backup" the current bell rom so that way we can "undo" what we have done to get back to original in case we ever need to? thanks again for everyones hard work.

hi all .....im newbie...using htc touch 2nd gen.... how to unlock the gps in my fon???

Hi All. I just recieved my touch last week and like the phone alot. I have flshed my old phone ( old I-mate PDA) a few times with files from here and it worked great.
But with the Touch you guys are talking about different kinds of touch phones. Where do I check what kind do I have. I am from South Africa and use MTN as my SP.
Will I be able to use the GPS ( Seen it in other threads)
Thank you for your help
Beast

how can I backup my phone?
I never flashed it before, its a Sprint Touch 2007 October.

A50SNAKE said:
HI i have been reading alot on this new rom, will this work on bell and also is there a way to "backup" the current bell rom so that way we can "undo" what we have done to get back to original in case we ever need to? thanks again for everyones hard work.
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check on the ppcgeeks ftp, im pretty sure the stock bell rom/radio has been placed somewhere there.
jhanz said:
hi all .....im newbie...using htc touch 2nd gen.... how to unlock the gps in my fon???
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just read my post! so who is your carrier? when you say 2nd gen, it makes me think your touch is gsm...is that the case?
Da_Beast said:
Hi All. I just recieved my touch last week and like the phone alot. I have flshed my old phone ( old I-mate PDA) a few times with files from here and it worked great.
But with the Touch you guys are talking about different kinds of touch phones. Where do I check what kind do I have. I am from South Africa and use MTN as my SP.
Will I be able to use the GPS ( Seen it in other threads)
Thank you for your help
Beast
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im....not really sure. being on a different continent i dont think it would work the same, unless you were able to find a separate radio only rom for your carrier, in which case you could flash whatever rom you wanted (w/o letting the cusomizations run on first boot), then flash your carriers os only rom, then be good to go!
yrsmart said:
how can I backup my phone?
I never flashed it before, its a Sprint Touch 2007 October.
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what exactly are you trying to back up?

jim256 said:
what exactly are you trying to back up?
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contacts, my documents and appz if possible

yrsmart said:
contacts, my documents and appz if possible
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google and download pim backup
actually...you could just synchronize with active sync, and have it sync your contacts, calendar, and files?

new PPST direct link
This post should be a sticky!!!!
This works perfectly except for the fact that the link to ppcgeeks on #8 is busted. What is missing from that link is the file for ppst.exe. I beat my brains in trying to get the stupid gps to work before I finally realized what was missing from my install.
Here is the PPST file from sprint that you do in fact need to make the gps work great. I lock onto the gps sats in about 15 seconds, in my house, to about 9 of em.
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jk3xpkwwg0.zip

flashing cmda phone different from gsm?
Hi All,
I just got my new sprint vogue to replace my t-mobile wizard. I flashed my wizard extensively over the past 2 years but I'm not sure about the Vogue. How does a cmda phone retain its network settings and network contact info if it is flashed when theres no sim card? I'm not talking about PIM info but the info the phone uses to identify itself and communicate with the network.
thanks
Lotus

This worked great. It was my first time flashing and following these instructions everything worked out well and I get locked into satellites with the gps very fast. Thank you.

i have a couple questions. 1st is i have a sprint touch flashed to cricket if i were to install this rom will all my cricket settings stay intact or will i have to reflash to cricket? 2nd does this rom include WM6.1 along with gps, and rev. A?
thanks for any help.

lehrfeld said:
Hi All,
I just got my new sprint vogue to replace my t-mobile wizard. I flashed my wizard extensively over the past 2 years but I'm not sure about the Vogue. How does a cmda phone retain its network settings and network contact info if it is flashed when theres no sim card? I'm not talking about PIM info but the info the phone uses to identify itself and communicate with the network.
thanks
Lotus
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i must say that im not exactly sure how. but i can say that...it just does. if you flash a different radio rom...then you can be in trouble if it is not for your carrier. but we are discussing os only roms here and the network settings are therefore not really affected
and ps for you too, dont allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be run, unless you are sure they are for your carrier
SLCpunk69 said:
i have a couple questions. 1st is i have a sprint touch flashed to cricket if i were to install this rom will all my cricket settings stay intact or will i have to reflash to cricket? 2nd does this rom include WM6.1 along with gps, and rev. A?
thanks for any help.
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ok so..no specific rom is being discussed here. this is just a how-to for what/e rom you want.
and no you should not have to re-flash to cricket as long as you only flash an os-only rom, a rom that does not have a radio included, and you never allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be executed.
but most all the roms that you can flash using these instructions do have 6.1 with gps and rev a yes

BigRed Productions said:
This post should be a sticky!!!!
This works perfectly except for the fact that the link to ppcgeeks on #8 is busted. What is missing from that link is the file for ppst.exe. I beat my brains in trying to get the stupid gps to work before I finally realized what was missing from my install.
Here is the PPST file from sprint that you do in fact need to make the gps work great. I lock onto the gps sats in about 15 seconds, in my house, to about 9 of em.
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jk3xpkwwg0.zip
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thanks for pointing out the borken link
link fixed/first post slightly updated.

jim256 said:
i must say that im not exactly sure how. but i can say that...it just does. if you flash a different radio rom...then you can be in trouble if it is not for your carrier. but we are discussing os only roms here and the network settings are therefore not really affected
and ps for you too, dont allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be run, unless you are sure they are for your carrier
ok so..no specific rom is being discussed here. this is just a how-to for what/e rom you want.
and no you should not have to re-flash to cricket as long as you only flash an os-only rom, a rom that does not have a radio included, and you never allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be executed.
but most all the roms that you can flash using these instructions do have 6.1 with gps and rev a yes
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ok so what if i wanted to use a custom rom made using the leaked sprint rom that has the MMS program included i should be fine as long as no "ppst.exe" file run during the install?
thanks for the help

HELP: when i try to load the v3[1].02.rar it asks for a password?????
if i use spb backup to restore in the last step, will that screw things up, since it reinstalls programs, etc as well????

Need to figure out whats wrong with my vogue..help please

I RECENTLY PURCHASED A VOGUE ONLINE IT KEEPS RESETTING ITSELF TRIED NEW ROMS AND THE MINUTE I DISCONNECT THE USB CONNECTION IT RESETS ITSELF EVERY COUPLE OF MINUTES...HELP PLEASE..I WILL BE HERE ALL NIGHT

Alright.
1. Stop posting new threads about this! You are not the only one who has ever had a problem like this.
2. Post the link to where you got the original ROM.
3. Give us a DETAILED overview of what you did. The more you leave out, the less anyone can help.
4. Relax, these things can typically be fixed.

I think i have the wrong radio and it wont let me upgrade

JARVISLEROUGE said:
I think i have the wrong radio and it wont let me upgrade
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Again, post more details!
You are only saying this because of the post in your other thread.

please forgive me i am a newbie and i am scared that i ruined my phone
i downloaded a new radio for the vogue but evidently it was a older version and i wasnt supposed to downgrade..now says "no radio"
i know that i must of broken some forum rules but it wont happen again.....I just need my phone back...

did you get it fixed?

still need help
STILL need help now my phone says no radio...no matter what rom i put on it..whats next? is this what they call bricked?

Did you try putting the phone into bootloader and flashing the stock ROM with radio?
Who is your provider?

taking steps forward....i think
i went back and reflashed radio 2.13.00 and now it is frozen at startup screen but the no radio is gone..

JARVISLEROUGE said:
i went back and reflashed radio 2.13.00 and now it is frozen at startup screen but the no radio is gone..
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Who is your service with? I would like to find you the proper ROM.

sprint for now but want to flash to metro pcs...kinda want to prove that metro can handle a smartphone
thanks in advance

Flash it to radio 3.42.50, and install a proper Sprint ROM... you might as well have a working device than none at all.

can you send a link
please send me a link please

JARVISLEROUGE said:
sprint for now but want to flash to metro pcs...kinda want to prove that metro can handle a smartphone
thanks in advance
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there are a few smart phones on metro flashed over...

UPDATE!!!!
Finally got the phone to boot
rom:1.12.651.1
radio:2.13.00
when i take it off the usb connection it shuts off after about 7 mins
so i either still have a radio conflict or i am just doomed with this phone...help me

WELL GO HERE FLASH OFFICAL UPGRADE...: http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=76&cat=2 UPGRADE IS TO THE RIGHT UNDER DOWNLOAD...
THEN BEFORE YOU FLASH CUSTOM YOU NEED TO RUN IaMcOkEmAn'S UNLOCKER FOUND HERE :http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370 RUN2.31 BECAUSE AFTER THE OFFICAL UPGRADE YOU WILL BE GPS ENABLED...NOW LIKE I SAID SEARCH CUSTOMS!!!YOUR PHONE WILL BE A DIFFERENT DEVICE NOW...

Hoover is the man
Thanks hoover using nfsfans sprint 1.0 so far so good thank you so much you really helped me alot thanks for the patience....now whats next?:d

Before flashing my rhodium for first time, is it possible to backup inital rom?

Hiya,
As per topic title - I don't want to miss out on warranty claims for messing around with the software, so is it possible!?
Thanks for any help

You can find the Shipped ROM for your TP2/Tilt2 and if you reflash that your spl will be relocked and your warranty restored.
Look for Tmous/Att etc rom not htc stock unless of course you bought it unlocked from HTC or 3rd party.
There are many programs to back up contacts and media. myphone is good for contacts and such.
Hope that helps have fun!!

Or you can dump your rom.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-2900107662879704%3Afs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=dump+rom&sa=Search

I have a full guide here on how to do it : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560519
Thanks
Dave

I wouldnt bother dumping or any of that. Your easist bet is just to download the original rom when you need to from the rom section. They have all the OEM roms in there. A little digging and you'll find it.

Just a thought, get a copy of your original rom NOW... Back on the Hermes forum people used to leave it til the last minute and what used to be easy to find sometimes disappeared.
I always make sure I have the original ROM stored on my PC so if I have to I don't need to spend days searching for a working link.

htc has the tilt 2 att original ship rom avalible to download from their site.

How to get Touch Pro 2 back to factory ROM?

Hi, recently flashed my Touch Pro 2, about to sell it and need to have it flashed back to the factory ROM. Does anyone know where I can find the ROM file and then the steps of doing this? Im trying to sell it and want to put it back to stock. Any help is appreciated, and yes I tried a search, sorry if I did miss something.
Thanks
Mike

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium/Shipped_Roms

how about HSPL? do i put the stock on back? and how

Dude there are entire threads dedicated to how to HardSPL and put it back to stock. Additionally, there is an official download from HTC's website that is the factory installed AT&T ROM. Read the very first page of the HardSPL thread. It has links to what you need to return to stock.
Alternatively, why not just sell the phone with a better ROM on it to begin with?

The phone is T-Mobile not AT&T and also some people dont want to buy a phone that has been messed with and can tell the difference in the stock ROM and a custom one.

ssconceptz said:
The phone is T-Mobile not AT&T and also some people dont want to buy a phone that has been messed with and can tell the difference in the stock ROM and a custom one.
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If you are selling ebay all you need to do is be sure and clearly indicate how the phone is set up. Also, you could advertise on the selling page that you can either leave the phone as is, or flash back to stock ROM - the buyer chooses. That way you may not have to flash back to stock.