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ActiveSync via wifi is awsome, but one question remains

I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle. So far I haven't had the troubles that I have had when I used the cable and cradle. No more inactive activesync, can't synchronize errors, and having to restart activesync every few hours or so.
I managed to have activesync running for 2 days straight without any problems and restart of any sorts. This leads me to beleive that using wifi with activesync is more stable than using a usb/cradle.
My question is, can I completely abandon the USB/cradle when upgrading ROM, app installs, or anything that has to do with using the cradle and usb cables?

I don't know the answer for certain but I should think so.
What I need to know is how to sync using wifi without it trying to access GPRS instead.
Any ideas?

My 2s is configured to access wifi first (I think the setting is under the wifi config). If wifi isn't available, then it tried to access GPRS. My carrier charges an arm and a leg to use gprs, so I never configure the phone to access my carrier's GPRS. I rely on free public WIFI access and my home WIFI access to do all my internet jobs.

You'll still need the USB for ROM updates; everything else you can do over WiFi or BT.

wifi
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.

@3waygeek, Thanks as I have not tried update anything since I pay a service to upgrade my things on my PPC. Sprite also does not like to backup via WiFi. I had to connect the PPC to the cradle.
@hoobas, I have WinXp/Sp2 installed. I have not had any problems connecting other than the occasional ActiveSync annoyance when I'm connecting with the USB cable. I'm sorry that I can't help you. I have not experience your problems so I can not give you a diagnosis.

wifi and MS Activsync
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem

ActiveSync starts automiatically on USB, serial, and Bluetooth connections. You'll have to use the ActiveSync link located on your PPC to connect to the PC via WiFi. This is assuming that ActiveSync does work on both your PPC and desktop. So it's best to connect to ActiveSync at least once via cradle before going ActiveSync via WiFi.
Only install ActiveSync on either your lappy or your deskop, but not on both. One limitation with ActiveSync is that you can not use more than two partnerships without some fiddling around with your PPC and your networked PC.

About Cradle ActiveSync.
Uninstall ActiveSync -> Reboot PC -> Reinstall Active Sync 3.8 and don't touch any thing or open any programs while installation is in progress.
Mine is working like a charm

nomadman said:
I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle.
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How did you do it?
I've used the search function but I couldn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Dino

OK, got it to work, too. Very nice
But I had to set my Network Connection from "Internet" to "Work".
Is it possible to use both settings? My Wireless LAN connects also
to the internet, so I won't switch everytime I want to sync or surf.
Dino

Re: wifi
hoobas said:
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
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Hi hoobas, how do you configure your laptap wifi for peer-to-peer? (this is quite off topic ) been trying to do this for sometime. thanks

Here is a great site site that might help some of you guys out.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/installation.htm#Installation:

hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...

hoobas said:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
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Thanks a lot how about the settings on the computer side?

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
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In the network settings of yr phone, enter the ip address of machine you want to sync with as WINS server. That will tell yr phone which machine it has to connect to. You can set up peak and offpeak timings in the mobile schedule of activsync on ye PDA, so that it can sync every 10 or 15 mins .

Sorry if my question is too noobish. I have read so many articles talking about establishing wifi sync between a wifi enabled PPC and a wifi enabled PC, but havent been able to do yet. Do i have to have another software to enable the connection ?
Can any one please explain slowly and in detail how you could do that, i've been searching for quite a long time but still no result. And 1 more question is that after i can sync through wifi between my O22s and my laptop, does it affect the wifi connection of my laptop and my O22s? A bit silly right but i'm a new user and i'm not in IT field also. Thanks for any suggestion from you guys.

@azeemakhtar,
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/multiplepartnerships.htm
@ducga,
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
* The above procedure should be able to get activesync working via wifi as long as there isn't a setting problem in your router managment or firewall.
* The above precedure should work if your are able to connect to the interent on your PPC via wifi.

nomadman said:
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
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I also have to do the following:
3a. Click Start / settings / connections / Network cards
3b. Select Network Adapters
3c. Change 'My network card connects to' from 'The Internet' change to 'Work'
3d. Close, reset (for luck)
3e. Open ActiveSync on your desktop PC, select File / connection settings / and tick allow Network Ethernet !!
4. Now when you click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button - it won't try to use GPRS to connect and WiFi will be listed as your Work connection.
I always have to change my network card settings back to 'The Internet' before I can browse again.
Rich

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
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Go to ActiveSync on your XDA, click tools, options.
It will say "When syncing remotely with a PC Use this PC:"
It should list the network name of the PC you currently have a partnership with. i.e. "TOMSLAPTOP"
Rich

Networking questions

1. With my old PDA (Magician) I could browse Internet through my PC using USB cable and ActiveSync. Now, with my Artemis I cannot. Althought it's connected by cable, always tries to go GPRS or EDGE when I open Internet Explorer and go for a web page. What's wrong? (Browsing the web by WiFi goes well, so it's not a problem at home, but there is no wireless LAN in my office.)
2. I can sync my Artemis with PC Outlook software by cable or by Bluetooth without any problem. Would it be possible somehow to sync by WiFi as well? Presumably it would be quicker than Bluetooth.
cheers,
ctibor

For your works PC check what version of Active Sync is installed, I don't have the Orbit but both my HTC Artemis and MDA-CIII will connect and surf the net via a cabled connection - can't comment on sync over Wi-Fi as I have never bothered with it. I find it easier to plug the devices in each night to sync and charge - Mike

ctibor said:
1. With my old PDA (Magician) I could browse Internet through my PC using USB cable and ActiveSync. Now, with my Artemis I cannot. Althought it's connected by cable, always tries to go GPRS or EDGE when I open Internet Explorer and go for a web page. What's wrong? (Browsing the web by WiFi goes well, so it's not a problem at home, but there is no wireless LAN in my office.)
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You may want to check that Settings>Connections>USB to PC>Enable advanced network funtionality is ticked

victoradjei said:
You may want to check that Settings>Connections>USB to PC>Enable advanced network funtionality is ticked
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Yes, it IS ticked.
But anyway, thanks.

on device
start>settings>connection>wifi>network adapters
set 'my network card connects to' to 'the internet'
on pc
open activesync
file>connection settings
set 'this computer connects to' to 'the internet'
should be all fine then.

Turn off Activesync ? (use USB w/o Activesync)

How can leave my Dash connected to the PC/USB but turn off Activesync (4.5) ?
The reason to do this is to allow my Dash to charge off the USB while I am using its WiFi connection (whenever I connect the Dash up to the USB, Activesync jumps in and that shuts down the WiFi connection).
Thanks.

Just check that you haven't configured an AS profile for your device or delete the configured one.

Try "WM5torage"
Makes your device a usb mass storage device and stop AS doing it's stuff. It does make your card unreadable by other software while running so you may want to bear that in mind when doing whatever your doing with your wireless.

Can't you just go into the connection settings in ActiveSync and disable the USB connection?

callmemoe said:
Can't you just go into the connection settings in ActiveSync and disable the USB connection?
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Yes, that does work. Thanks... its what I want to have happen...

OK I haven't tried this myself ( I do Wm5torage) but here's another link:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-activesync-toggle-v1-0-4-0.html
There's loads of other useful stuff at that site as well.

AS 4.5 -> Internet passthrough (100s of solutions, but none is working???)

Hi,
Since AS 4.2 came out I have problems to use USB Internet passthrough in Activesync, als AS 4.5 did not solve this problem. I googled around a lot and also searched in xda forums but everyone is giving other instructions, some say this, some say it the other way. It also does not depend on the rom, I had the same problem on the wizard and now also with my TyTN on wm5 and wm6 roms.
So my question is: How to enable USB internet passthrough on ActiveSync 4.5? At the moment my desktop activesync is set to "automatic" in the connection settings, and on my device under Settings->Connections->Connections->Advanced->Select Networks I have "Orange Internet" as the connection which connects to the internet (which has in the proxy settings "this network connects to the internet" enabled). and the work connection is "My ISP" which has no settings at all. I tried to add a new network connection but didn't even know which Modem I have to choose and so I gave this up.
I also tried to set my desktop activesync to either use "Work" or "Internet" instead of automatic but when I try to use Opera, Internet Explorer or any other program like downloading the weather data all programs say that the host or page cannot be found or report a network error.
Can anyone help with this, I'm really very desperate... Cause I also tried to find the correct settings for hours now, but without luck...
Thanks for any help with this subject.

marcelser said:
Hi,
Since AS 4.2 came out I have problems to use USB Internet passthrough in Activesync, als AS 4.5 did not solve this problem. I googled around a lot and also searched in xda forums but everyone is giving other instructions, some say this, some say it the other way. It also does not depend on the rom, I had the same problem on the wizard and now also with my TyTN on wm5 and wm6 roms.
So my question is: How to enable USB internet passthrough on ActiveSync 4.5? At the moment my desktop activesync is set to "automatic" in the connection settings, and on my device under Settings->Connections->Connections->Advanced->Select Networks I have "Orange Internet" as the connection which connects to the internet (which has in the proxy settings "this network connects to the internet" enabled). and the work connection is "My ISP" which has no settings at all. I tried to add a new network connection but didn't even know which Modem I have to choose and so I gave this up.
I also tried to set my desktop activesync to either use "Work" or "Internet" instead of automatic but when I try to use Opera, Internet Explorer or any other program like downloading the weather data all programs say that the host or page cannot be found or report a network error.
Can anyone help with this, I'm really very desperate... Cause I also tried to find the correct settings for hours now, but without luck...
Thanks for any help with this subject.
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do you use a proxy server for this pass through connection? what activesync partnership do you have setup "Guest" or a Normal one...

First to be able to use passthrough you must be connected to your PC via USB and thus connected to active sync. Active Sync should be fully set-up.
First question;
Can you synchronize your data through Active Sync 4.5.
If yes. Try to tick all the items in the desktop active sync> connections settings. On the space "this computer is connected to" select automatic
second: Can your PC connect to the internet?
If yes open the PC Internet Explorer and try to browse, then, while connected at USB, open Pocket Internet Explorer in your mobile and try to browse. You should be connected to the internet then. Good Luck!!
If still you wouldnt connect there must be wrong on your Active Sync partnership set-up

Two more tips:
1. Start/Settings/Connections/USB to PC - untic
2. http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/552203-post22.html

no proxy
walshieau said:
do you use a proxy server for this pass through connection? what activesync partnership do you have setup "Guest" or a Normal one...
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I don't use any proxy server for connecting to the internet, my PC is directly connected to a NAT Router, as well as my linux box and my girlfriends computer and all work perfect.
As for the activesync partnership, where do I see the type of my partnership or in other words, what is a "guest" partnership? The only thing I see is that my device is named "WM_marc1" and that activesync items sync perfectly but the internet passthrough won't work.
I hope you can give me further advice with this information. Thanks for you help
docles2002 said:
First to be able to use passthrough you must be connected to your PC via USB and thus connected to active sync. Active Sync should be fully set-up.
First question;
Can you synchronize your data through Active Sync 4.5.
If yes. Try to tick all the items in the desktop active sync> connections settings. On the space "this computer is connected to" select automatic
second: Can your PC connect to the internet?
If yes open the PC Internet Explorer and try to browse, then, while connected at USB, open Pocket Internet Explorer in your mobile and try to browse. You should be connected to the internet then. Good Luck!!
If still you wouldnt connect there must be wrong on your Active Sync partnership set-up
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My data synchronizes perfectly through AS 4.5 and I have already checked all items in connection settings. Of course my computer is connected to the internet (see reply to walshieau) and honestly IE and pocket IE have nothing to do with internet passthrough, it's all about TCP/IP subnetting, bridging, tunnelling or whatever method AS 4.5 uses for internet passthrough.

Sorry if i am not explicit...but i hope this helps. For my wizard i remember i had to install a reg on the PC. It did some changes to the Active Sync registry.
The bad is that i don't have that reg

marcelser said:
Hi,
Since AS 4.2 came out I have problems to use USB Internet passthrough in Activesync, als AS 4.5 did not solve this problem. I googled around a lot and also searched in xda forums but everyone is giving other instructions, some say this, some say it the other way. It also does not depend on the rom, I had the same problem on the wizard and now also with my TyTN on wm5 and wm6 roms.
So my question is: How to enable USB internet passthrough on ActiveSync 4.5? At the moment my desktop activesync is set to "automatic" in the connection settings, and on my device under Settings->Connections->Connections->Advanced->Select Networks I have "Orange Internet" as the connection which connects to the internet (which has in the proxy settings "this network connects to the internet" enabled). and the work connection is "My ISP" which has no settings at all. I tried to add a new network connection but didn't even know which Modem I have to choose and so I gave this up.
I also tried to set my desktop activesync to either use "Work" or "Internet" instead of automatic but when I try to use Opera, Internet Explorer or any other program like downloading the weather data all programs say that the host or page cannot be found or report a network error.
Can anyone help with this, I'm really very desperate... Cause I also tried to find the correct settings for hours now, but without luck...
Thanks for any help with this subject.
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hi, I am using wm6(LVSW series, black Series and now Official Dopod release) on my hermes, everytime I can successfully connect to the internet via activesync using whatever program like pie, opera, spb insight, weather update, WML etc.
what I have done is simply unchecked the 'enable advanced network functionality' under start -> settings -> connections ->USB to PC and then plug the usb cable to my pc.
I use activesync 4.5.
hope this help

ctrlaltdel said:
hi, I am using wm6(LVSW series, black Series and now Official Dopod release) on my hermes, everytime I can successfully connect to the internet via activesync using whatever program like pie, opera, spb insight, weather update, WML etc.
what I have done is simply unchecked the 'enable advanced network functionality' under start -> settings -> connections ->USB to PC and then plug the usb cable to my pc.
I use activesync 4.5.
hope this help
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YES WORKS UNDER VISTA TOO
simply check the 'allow data connections on device when conneted to the pc' under connection settings and then plug the usb cable to pc.

Heres the Fix
I had the same problem and this reg key fixed it for me 100%
Download this file AND RENAME IT TO lspvalue.reg
the double click on the reg file on your PC
Jules

ZaJules said:
I had the same problem and this reg key fixed it for me 100%
Download this file AND RENAME IT TO lspvalue.reg
the double click on the reg file on your PC
Jules
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That's the one i was talking about, thanks i was going to need it too

Ok followed the procedures. I think anyone of them works. Mine worked by changing on PC activesync to "this computer is connected to: The Internet". Nothing else worked. I had the reg hack from the time of my beloved Wizard!

go to:
start -> settings -> connections -> advanced -> select network
make sure that
"programs that automaticaly connect to the internetshould connect using"
"my work network" and not "my isp"
then go to
start -> settings -> connections -> usb to pc
and make sure to uncheck "enable advanced network functionality"
that should do it
regards
H.S.

hsalah72 said:
then go to
start -> settings -> connections -> usb to pc
and make sure to uncheck "enable advanced network functionality"
that should do it
regards
H.S.
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on my hp 6828, it doesnt seem to have the usb to pc option/icon.
tried the first part selecting connect to work.
I'm stil haveing a problem. any ideas?

maymaymay said:
Two more tips:
1. Start/Settings/Connections/USB to PC - untic
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This one works for my TP
Goshh... I love this board !!
Thank you very much, maymaymay

Still not working
Why can't someone come up with an ACTUAL solution to this?
When I connect my Tilt to the PC it automatically passes the internet connection through the PC. I did the registry fix and tried all four settings (0, 1, 10, 11) and still my data connection on the phone is overridden by the active sync desktop pass-through. I turned off the advanced networking option and still it goes through the PC. I even went through all the settings in active sync for "This computer is connected to" even though that doesn't even look like it would affect which connection my phone uses. This seems more like a setting within active sync on the phone more than anything.
I use my phone at work for chatting on yahoo IM (with Palringo) since my company network is filtered. I use a program called MyMobiler to transfer the phone display and controls to the PC so I can use my desktop keyboard for the chat program instead of my phone's keypad. Since the network is filtered the internet connection on my phone is filtered too since it's passed through the desktop when I active sync it to use MyMobiler. Sometimes Palringo will hold the connection even after I've connected to the desktop and sometimes it won't.
Bottom line here is can someone come up with an real working solution to this problem that a LOT of people are having?
HOW TO DISABLE DESKTOP PASSTHROUGH WHEN CONNECTING WITH ACTIVESYNC. Search that on google and here and all you will find are people saying "Yeah I have that problem too" or people telling how to connect WITH desktop passthrough.

I have a similar issue. I have my phone connected to my work PC to charge / sync, but all Internet connections attempted by the phone are being routed through my work network until I unplug the USB.
Naturally, that's very bad since all Internet traffic is logged by my work and many sources are blocked. I have an unlimited data plan on my phone. Why can't I stay connected to it when I'm hooked to ActiveSync?
I read someplace that Windows Mobile has an order of preference where connections are concerned. Probably hard line, then wi-fi, 3G and then EDGE. Surely there must be some way to modify this order of preference.

The thread is missunderstood...
The problem here is give to the PPC internet via usb... providede by a PC...
The solution that REG (that works for me EVER!!!).
And now other one provide internet to my PC via usb on phone account

With apologies, I'm not sure I understood what you said there.
But, some of us are actually trying to stop receiving internet by the USB.
I would like the phone to initiate a wireless 3G connection even when connected to the PC. But, thus far, all settings I've tried still cause my phone to attempt to access my business network here at my company.
Big no-no.

have you finally solved the problem?
If so just like to ask if you have change your homepage in ppc? which is
file://windows/default_0409.htm?
and have not run your network wizard? then maybe I have the solution here
Reg key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer/AboutURLs/
usually it is ( default value )
A.Blank value is res://webview.dll/blank.htm
B.Home_0409 value isfile://windows/default_0409.htm
C.version_0409value isfile://windows/default_0409.htm
if there is a new reg in that one try to delete that file again using a registry explorer ( depends on what you use to view the file)
turn it off for about 30 secs then soft reset... I hope this helps out

I'm not sure that addresses the issue, or mine at least. My phone disables HSDPA the moment I plug the USB cable into the phone and Active Sync takes over. It's before I even open a browser.
Not only does the phone start looking for Internet over the USB Active Sync connection, it looks for non browser related things like weather updates and sending mail to the gmail server.
Somewhere, it's coded to have an order of preference in what kind of connection it accesses. By default, it seems to look for any available land line connection, possibly wi-fi next, then 3G and then EDGE. I'd like to take the land line connection completely out of the equation.

tp2 tethering (tmobile version)

Ok. So I went through the user manual. I installed Microsoft Activesync 4.5 on my HP Netbook and connected my phone via usb. From here i am lost. According to the manual it says that my phone is supposed to say connect to pc with a "internet sharing"option. that option is not there. The only options available are connect via active sync with outlook or disk drive. Am I missing something? I combed through the manual and searched the web and still could not find the solution. Any help will be appreciated and I'm sorry if this has been posted before but i could not find anything on this.

i just did this for my self last week..
the help section ON your phone is where i got this info...
first, disconect your phone from your computer..
then open active sinc on your computer...
click "file" then click "connection settings"
a new window will open.
UNCHECK "allow usb connections.
close active sinc.
plug your phone in.
on your phone tap to connect via "active sync"
now, on your phone go to "programs"
then "internet sharing"
it should now show on your phone,
status
pc connection
make it USB
network connection
should say tmobiel data.
at botom of screen, hit the "connect" tab, if it didnt auto connect..
if done properly status will show it connecting then finaly connect.
your computer will then automatically get an ip adress from tmobile... and then in a few moments you should be able to use computer internet normally...
i notice that it likes to drop connections periodically... all you need to do is go back into the internet sharing on yoru phone and just tap "connect" again and it reconects.

You can leave all the active sync settings at stock.
Plug in the phone and it will make the activesync connection, go to the program menu on the phone and click internet Sharing. Under PC connection it will say USB, Network is Tmobile.
Click connect and it will automatically shut down activesync and start the connection sharing...
In short...
Connect to computer. Activesync should start automatically.
Start Internest Sharing on the phone.
Click Connect
Done....