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Radio ROM 1.38 + WM6 - good or bad?

I know that some combinations of Radio 1.38 and WM6 were causing problems for some users. I was wondering if this is still a known issue or if it proved to be something else or was isolated. I upgraded to Radio 1.35 to let the dust settle. Anyone want to tell me if it is safe to go to 1.38?
You can see my config below.
(Yeah, I searched using forum search, google and the wiki. Couldn't find anything relatively definitive from a trusted source.) Thanks.

I am running 1.38 and Black 2.0 without a problem ... I earlier was one of the folks with disconnect problems with this radio and earlier WM6 ROMS ... but the radio seems to play nice and work well with both Black 2.0 and the latest LVSW ROMS (in my experience).

Thanks for the quick reply - I could not ask for a more trusted source.
Since your config so closely resembles mine, I am going to dive on in!
Thanks!

I PUT MINE BACK TO 1.34 I DIDNT LIKE 1.38 FOR SOME REASON IT JUST WASENT RIGHT sry for caps just noticed i am running pro blk 2.0 with 1.34 radio i have cingular and live in NY when in 3g areas my phone was using edge instead then if i put my phone in 3g only i would lose signal end result 1.34 is much better in my opinon
yo todd_jg how is 1.35 radio?

OK - did the upgrade and some limited testing.
BT, wifi, voice and edge data all check out and seem to be working as expected. Thanks again for the tips. Will report back if anything goes bad.

I have been using 1.38 since it come out with three different WM6 ROMs (WMXL 0.20, Chinese WM6 and Black 2.0) with no problems. Good luck.

1.38 + WM6 works GREAT for me!

1.38.30.10 radio + LVSW WM6 Edition (2007-03-26)
Seems no problem recent week~

I'm using 1.38.00.10 with Pro Black 2.0 and i'm expeirencing dropped calls and bad call quality. I was on the the phone with my girlfriend last night and it kept breaking up and dropping the call after 7+minutes of convo... i convinced her it was her phone (nokia 8800 sirrocco). But after the 5th or 6th time it did it i switched phones to a nokia 3500 i have laying around and guess what... Call quality is 10x better and no dropped calls for a good 40+minutes!
So which radio is next? i think i'm gonna go back down to 1.34 or should i go up to 1.28.30.10?

Black 2.0 and radio 1.38 even for me without any problem

yes been running lvsw roms & 1.38 radio.. no problem

Seems to work fine here also..

how's the battery life in this combination?

panzer said:
how's the battery life in this combination?
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Using Black 2.0 and working and living 80% of the time in an EDGE area, I get about 13-16 hours daily use.
I'm not sure about high speed or 3G only areas.
Not the best but I can live with it.

I've been running Black 2.0 and 1.38 for the last 4 days and it's been rock solid.
I live in a 3G area and with moderate use I'm down to 60% battery by the end of the day.
Moderate use..5 or 6 calls, MS Exchange push email on all day and the odd Text.
So well happy with the combination.
Looking forward to Black 2.5!

Agreed battery life has been awesome since going to Black v2.0..

fone_fanatic said:
I'm using 1.38.00.10 with Pro Black 2.0 and i'm expeirencing dropped calls and bad call quality. I was on the the phone with my girlfriend last night and it kept breaking up and dropping the call after 7+minutes of convo... i convinced her it was her phone (nokia 8800 sirrocco). But after the 5th or 6th time it did it i switched phones to a nokia 3500 i have laying around and guess what... Call quality is 10x better and no dropped calls for a good 40+minutes!
So which radio is next? i think i'm gonna go back down to 1.34 or should i go up to 1.28.30.10?
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1.34 HAS NO PROBLEMS BUT it depends where u live i am in ny 1.34 is good 1.38 sucks for me and battery life is good on all if u use htc tweak

I also had problems with Radio 1.38, a large amount of dropped calls, unable to answer calls, calls straight to VM etc, so I went back to 1.34. Still having probs with reception but with far less frequency. Have used different Rom Versions, Black 2, LVSW, 3DES, all with similar probs.

Hi, I tested all versions which come out from trinity or hermes, had no problem till now, now I am on 1.38.00.11 GPS, work like a charm, in our town is 3G, edge or gprs, I have no problem, tested on lvsw, 3des, vanilla and XDA... maybe I have luck after all...

i was on .11 before but i noticed i had full bars and people are going straight into voicemail, so i switched it over to .10, so far so good, but last night i noticed acall dropped after 45 min of talking...i lost reception and regained it really quickly...im gonna stick with .10

Radio Hermes Problem

Hi,
which is the latest hermes radio upgrade ?
Thanks

1.54.30.10

Radio Problem ????
It would be to your benifit to explain your problem a little mor so that we can help you a better than just a radio build as there may be more to your situation than we know and the you could be back with a no GSM or "briked" device so the more you let us know the more help you can recieve.
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Reaper29 ....
its people like you that make this forum an amazing place to be a part of, spend time at, and benefit from. Bravo to you & your great intentions, sir.
I know of too many forums that have plainly rude members, for no reason at all.

Good place to ask
Been scouring the net for an hour now to trying to get an idea of what Radio Rom would be best for me, thought this might be a good thread to butt in on
I currently have 1.43 with Schaps 4.30 ROM, using T-Mobile in the UK.
Is there a better Radio ROM out there for me? Any improvements to signal would be nice, especially data seeing as it's my main source for the internet at the moment (just moved, broadband is taking too long to get active )

Well , 1.54 is newer than yours based on the #. It might be worth a whirl to try the at&t dialer and see if it works? you could always go back to 1.43 if necessary

I think that's what I'll do, hesitated after reading a few threads that didn't paint the 1.54 ROM's in a good light, but like you say can always go back.

Just to give my 2 cents worth, I was using 1.54.07 since June 2007, It performed very well for me except for whenever I had no reception for an extended period. Once I returned to an area with reception I would have to Soft Reset else my Hermes would not find a signal again. After reading the recent bad reps for 1.54, I decided to downgrade to 1.43 again. What I have noticed since downgrading is the batt is no longer lasting me as long. Normally I have 60-70% batt life left after a normal day with 1.54.07, now I see only 30-40% batt remaining.
See Mr Vanx's report for his current tests http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358933

Reaper29 ....
its people like you that make this forum an amazing place to be a part of, spend time at, and benefit from. Bravo to you & your great intentions, sir.
I know of too many forums that have plainly rude members, for no reason at all.
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ryaske..... thanks brother just trying to give a little back to a community that has helped me so much

I have a serious Radio Problem...
The battery lasts only 2 hours tops whith the Radio ON, and 3-4 hours in standby.
Ofcourse, the when the Radio is OFF it goes back to the normal consumption rate...
Can anyone help me?
Details:
ROM: Official WM6 (3.54.255.3)
Radio: 1.48.00.10

Is there any problem with radio 1.54.07.00 and battery drain?
I have Cingular 8525 and the battery last at most 6-8 hours, with less than 15 minutes of usage in the entire day.
I had the latest official Rom from AT&T, but last night tried Schap's Rom 4.31 to see if there was any difference. But the battery drains as fast as it used to.
My previous device was an 8125 and I could have the device without a recharge for 2-3 days. This one hardly last a days work.

3G
I've found battery life with 1.47 and 1.54 varients similar- they stink if your 3g is enabled and you're using direct push always on. I barely get the day out of my phone when I'm at my desk, not making a lot of calls.
I've turned 3G off and sticking with EDGE, get at least 2 days life.
Right now I've got Schaps 4.31, and Radio 1.47.30.10
great reception, good data speeds, good life, all good. But don't use the 3G unless you need it.

Having tried them all, 1.40.30.00 radio is by FAR the most battery efficient and stable for MS Push email IMO.

Here is a list of all the radios. 1.48 and 1.50 seem to get good reviews, but I cant remember if thats only in the US or if thats UK too...

nanastas said:
I've found battery life with 1.47 and 1.54 varients similar- they stink if your 3g is enabled and you're using direct push always on. I barely get the day out of my phone when I'm at my desk, not making a lot of calls.
I've turned 3G off and sticking with EDGE, get at least 2 days life.
Right now I've got Schaps 4.31, and Radio 1.47.30.10
great reception, good data speeds, good life, all good. But don't use the 3G unless you need it.
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I have Schaps 4.31 Rom too... I tried disabling 3G and leaving just the 3G. But didn't noticed any difference in the battery consumtion.
I also did a test last nigth. My battery was at 40%, I turned off the radio and the phone) Leave it on my desk without using. 2 Hours later I checked the phone, it was at 10%. I don't get it... the radio is off, the phone is without use, and still drains the battery this fast?

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I also did a test last nigth. My battery was at 40%, I turned off the radio and the phone) Leave it on my desk without using. 2 Hours later I checked the phone, it was at 10%. I don't get it... the radio is off, the phone is without use, and still drains the battery this fast?
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Was the screen off also?
Did you try that same test with other ROMs, and get the same results?
If yes to both of those ...... try running the same test again... but this time hold the power button until it asks you "power down?". Click yes, and now your phone is 100% off and not just in standby.
The likely conclusions of this test are as follows:
If the battery does NOT drain in this state ... you my friend have a bad battery and simply need to replace it with a fresh one (especially if you bought this phone used!).
If it DOES drain down in this state .. you my friend MAY have bad phone hardware or a short in the battery contacts. Clean out the inside of the phone, and (i would) still try a new battery just incase.
You may also want to run that program "acbPowerMeter".
It tells you the CURRENT your phone is drawing. I would say 110-70mA is normal. My phone is pulling 73mA average with screen brightness two clicks in from the right, not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3g enabled but not active. If yours is significantly higher, you have some drain in the software. If its the same, it would point to your hardware (most likely battery)

ryaske said:
Was the screen off also?
Did you try that same test with other ROMs, and get the same results?
If yes to both of those ...... try running the same test again... but this time hold the power button until it asks you "power down?". Click yes, and now your phone is 100% off and not just in standby.
The likely conclusions of this test are as follows:
If the battery does NOT drain in this state ... you my friend have a bad battery and simply need to replace it with a fresh one (especially if you bought this phone used!).
If it DOES drain down in this state .. you my friend MAY have bad phone hardware or a short in the battery contacts. Clean out the inside of the phone, and (i would) still try a new battery just incase.
You may also want to run that program "acbPowerMeter".
It tells you the CURRENT your phone is drawing. I would say 110-70mA is normal. My phone is pulling 73mA average with screen brightness two clicks in from the right, not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3g enabled but not active. If yours is significantly higher, you have some drain in the software. If its the same, it would point to your hardware (most likely battery)
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The screen was off. But the phone was in standby.
I will try your other suggestions to see what happens. I'll also try other radio roms. Reading this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358933), tests seem to show that rom 1.47.30.10 has good performance.
Will post later the results.
Thanks...

I did the acbPowerMeter test.
I get around 162mA Average and a total of 21mAh (for 10 minutes)
With screen brightness on the second click (from left to right, the least bright before backlight off), not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3G enabled but not active. No other program running except acbPowerMeter.
I tried turning 3G off (leaving just EDGE) and I got 169mA Average and a total of 21mAh (for 10 minutes). Strange that with 3G off got about the same or a little more.
I tried to do the test with the phone screen off (stand by), but it seems the program doesn't run in standby.
Any idea?

I meant 2 clicks in from the right .. so 2 clicks away from full bright is what I ran at.
I think you might want to start a new thread for this problem.
To give you some more numbers to go on ..
with phone on, bluetooth on, wlan on (and mated to router), no data connection, and screen 2 away from full bright .. my phone bounces from 80-115 sitting there with the screen on. Avg is 96 and total is just short of 8 mAh in 5 minutes.
take the numbers for what they are. keep in mind if your voltage goes down, your current will too. so run these tests at full batt.
search for battery drainage and find your problem , def replace the battery just to be sure its good. Personally, I would just sell the phone on ebay if a new battery didn't fix it. Time = money these days.. just get a new one and know its good

Poor Reception? All TP's or is mine faulty?

So it seems like my (US) TP2 is not getting very good reception at all. Internet sluggishly putters along and i rarely get above 3 bars. My old tilt had far better reception than this phone in the same areas im comparing them to now. Should I take my phone back to ATT and get a new one? or are the US att tilts just prone to poor reception? If so, any way to rectify this or boost my signal?
edit: Also phone seems to be very sluggish at times and needs soft resets quite a bit.. is this a problem with the stock ROM or is there a way to free up some memory by removing some hidden background programs that are pointless?

i think its the phone because on my tmobile tp2 i know of 1 dead zone where my mom gets no service at all with her phone and neither did i with my lg vu but since i got this phone i get 1-2 bars. did u flash the radio or anything?

USCC version works Great!
I don't know if it is the equipment fully. I have the USCC version of the TP2, and I gotta tell you. with my first TP I got 1 bar of signal. My ex, has a regular phone and she gets 2 bars. But When I sit in the living room here, I get four bars. I have better signal with the Tp2 than I have had with any other phone. I have been highly impressed with the signal so far.

I have my RHOD300 (Tilt2) on AT&T's network running Radio 4.49.25.17, and I've never had a better connection than on this phone. On my original Tilt, I only got a few bars and EDGE at my house, but with the radio listed above on my Rhodium, I get HSDPA at my house and everywhere else, and with 3 or 4 bars.
Also, carrier ROMs suck. That's why a good majority of the people here flash cooked ROMs. Most of the time, stock ROMs are completely bloated to the point where the device is notably slowed. Cooked ROMs, on the other hand, focus more on performance than free trials of crappy J2ME games and as a result are much faster. Flashing a new radio may also help with reception. As myself and many others have concluded, 4.49.25.17 is an excellent radio for most people.
However, if you don't want to flash a cooked ROM, then you might want to try this instead. That link tells how to manually remove all the AT&T crap they put on those devices, and should provide a little performance boost as well as some extra storage space.

I'm using the stock ROM on a Tilt 2 and the reception is the best of any phone I've had. (LOTS better than my wife's Nokia 5800...) The phone was a bit sluggish out of the box, but after applying the tweaks in the tweak threads, I'm very happy with the phone. Disabling Push internet helped a lot, as well as the Opera tweaks. The GPS tweaks are essential with this phone. Out of the box the GPS is really crappy. With the tweaks applied it works pretty good. Just look for the two tweak threads. One is a sticky in this sub forum. The other is the tweak thread specifically for the Tilt 2 version, and is not a sticky. (But it should be! )

The reception on this phone is like doubled compard to my Fuze. It used to be about every 20 minutes or so I'd lose reception at my desk but now it happens once a day max.

That depends on your mobile carrier and the area you live in

I had the original Tilt for a year then the Fuze for a year and now the Tilt 2 for the last month. Overall the Tilt 2 reception is at least as good as the other two. But I never had problems with the reception on any of them.

As others I get great reception on my Tilt2. However I've noticed AT&T's network get slower and slower over the last few months. Try seeing if you get the same sluggishness when you use a WiFi connection.
As far as the software itself, I was going to stick with the stock ROM for at least a week or two but performance was so bad that I switched to a custom rom. Absolutely worth it, the device runs so much smoother without all the AT&T bloat.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I have my RHOD300 (Tilt2) on AT&T's network running Radio 4.49.25.17, and I've never had a better connection than on this phone. On my original Tilt, I only got a few bars and EDGE at my house, but with the radio listed above on my Rhodium, I get HSDPA at my house and everywhere else, and with 3 or 4 bars.
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I have att also, do you have a link to that radio cause mine is 4.48.25.20 and would love to see if version would work better as far as reception. I live in south jersey, and the 3G network is near dead with the flood of Iphones sucking up all the bandwidth, but my bars are always changing from 0-3 at least 3 or 4 times every 30 seconds.

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I have att also, do you have a link to that radio cause mine is 4.48.25.20 and would love to see if version would work better as far as reception. I live in south jersey, and the 3G network is near dead with the flood of Iphones sucking up all the bandwidth, but my bars are always changing from 0-3 at least 3 or 4 times every 30 seconds.
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lol, I know what you mean, here's a link to 4.49.25.17. All other known Rhodium radios can be found here. Hope that helps

Ok seems as though I am going to be needing to flash to a cooked ROM my only fear is bricking my phone since i am a complete noob to flashing anything my tilt1 went 2+ years and i didnt put a thing on it! so it looks like i will look into the different radio option as well as cleaning up the ATT programs that are taking up space unti i gather up the strength to hopefully not brick my tilt!
Edit: Downloaded the newer radio version, how do i go about installing this? I unpack the rar and am left with a rhodium custom RUU executable?
also how do i upgrade the GPS? Google maps and trapster are somewhat useless since its so slow to pan through it effectively and timely

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Tbeta64 said:
Ok seems as though I am going to be needing to flash to a cooked ROM my only fear is bricking my phone since i am a complete noob to flashing anything my tilt1 went 2+ years and i didnt put a thing on it! so it looks like i will look into the different radio option as well as cleaning up the ATT programs that are taking up space unti i gather up the strength to hopefully not brick my tilt!
Edit: Downloaded the newer radio version, how do i go about installing this? I unpack the rar and am left with a rhodium custom RUU executable?
also how do i upgrade the GPS? Google maps and trapster are somewhat useless since its so slow to pan through it effectively and timely
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To flash a new radio, here's what you need to do: You should have an EXE called CustomRUU and an NBH file called either RUU_SIGNED.NBH or RHODIMG.NBH. Connect your device via USB, wait until ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center recognizes your device, and then run CustomRUU.exe. If you get an antivirus warning, ignore it. Follow the instructions that CustomRUU.exe gives you, and you should be fine. If flashing a new radio doesn't work for some reason, you might need HardSPL. I don't think you need HardSPL for signed radio installs, but I'm not 100% sure.
The GPS is controlled by the Radio, so changing to another radio may help with this. I recommend using QuickGPS if it is included in your phone's ROM, as well as downloading Schap's Advanced Config and enabling AGPS under the GPS options in Advanced Config.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy
Thanx for pointing me to the radio, I installed it, and someone found the hack to shutoff the 3G band since 3G is dead here as I said, and the 2G signal is amazing, I consistently 85% of the time have 5 bars, I've never had that with my fuze, in 3G or 2G, so happy that my battery isnt being drained anymore because of the bouncing between 2G and 3G.

I installed the latest radio (ending in .57 I think) on my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 and my EDGE signal couldn't be any better! My neighborhood is a "Fair" patch on the map but now I easily get 3 bars inside when making calls, sometimes I see one bar but it's usually 2-3 bars vs 1-2. Idle I can get 4 but once you place a call it goes back down to 3.

Good performance with WWE ROM

I wanted to share my performance with everyone regarding battery life and signal strength. I flashed the latest WWE ROM (2.07.401.1) and since then, The battery has lasted nearly 4 days (used to last me only 1 day max). I am also getting better performance with the radio too. It seems to switch bands very fast now. I am on Tmo US and I have very spotty coverage where I live. Before, the phone spent most of it's time in either Edge or no service. now It is almost always in H or 3G and rarely does it drop down to E. When it does, it seems to come back to 3G very fast.
I just wanted to pass this along and see if it helps anyone else. Also, it has sense 2.5 but it didnt slow down the phone nearly as fast as I expected. It almost seems faster now. Hope everyone else has the same results as me.

civic95man said:
I wanted to share my performance with everyone regarding battery life and signal strength. I flashed the latest WWE ROM (2.07.401.1) and since then, The battery has lasted nearly 4 days (used to last me only 1 day max). I am also getting better performance with the radio too. It seems to switch bands very fast now. I am on Tmo US and I have very spotty coverage where I live. Before, the phone spent most of it's time in either Edge or no service. now It is almost always in H or 3G and rarely does it drop down to E. When it does, it seems to come back to 3G very fast.
I just wanted to pass this along and see if it helps anyone else. Also, it has sense 2.5 but it didnt slow down the phone nearly as fast as I expected. It almost seems faster now. Hope everyone else has the same results as me.
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Do you happen to know what radio comes standard in that ROM?

Radio Version - Battery Life

All,
One thing I noticed in reading these posts and seeing people's device information in their signature is that there are a few versions of the radio that people are running. Some have stayed on an older version, while others have upgraded to newer versions.
I am wondering if a particular version gives us the best overall coverage and battery life. I would appreciate it if you could respond with the version you are running. I would like to compile the responses and see which versions people are running. I am then going to test each version for a couple of days and see the implications of each version on battery life.
Thanks,
Steve

radio can influence battery. it all comes back to your dbms reading, the lower the better. try a few of the radios and see what happens.

9.01 now. Ran 7.28,4.08 and 5.06 before though. 4.08 wasn't bad.
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This discussion is all over the place but a dedicated thread with battery results is good. we need to post our location as well as screen shots. im on long island and 04.08 does well with data speeds. im in a building heavily protected meaning they do well blocking reception and i am able to pull 3g in 99% of the time with an occasional drop to 1x.

I just flashed 09.01 from 04.08 and went from -84 dbm to -80 dbm sitting in the same spot.

stevefxp said:
All,
One thing I noticed in reading these posts and seeing people's device information in their signature is that there are a few versions of the radio that people are running. Some have stayed on an older version, while others have upgraded to newer versions.
I am wondering if a particular version gives us the best overall coverage and battery life. I would appreciate it if you could respond with the version you are running. I would like to compile the responses and see which versions people are running. I am then going to test each version for a couple of days and see the implications of each version on battery life.
Thanks,
Steve
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From my experience the radio has a lot to do with battery life. The radio effects how your phone communicates with the local towers. The difference between radios are tweaks within the voltages. Your best best is to try them all and see which one gives you the best happy medium between reception, call quality, data speeds and battery life. I personally get slightly fast data speeds with the newer 4.08 and 5.06, however I did notice that my battery was draining faster while using data, so I went back to 9.01 which seemed like the happy medium for me. Just because 9.01 works well for me, doesn't mean that others will have similar results. Just like how the same type of phone can act differently with kernel voltage changes, the same goes for radios.
Remember when testing different radios to rule out any variables that may change your results. An example of this is when I was testing out the newest radio, I updated Dolphin HD also. After doing so, I ran into an issue with web pages stop loading half way. I originally blamed the radio for this, but then remembered that I had also update the browser. It turned out that the newest update had some bugs and this was one of them.