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I'm on latest ATT radio 1.54.07.00 and not happy with battery life, i did not try other RADIOs since I know how dangerous to flash it. I'm looking for opinions which other RADIO ROMs are best of ATT and for battery life.
If I can save on battery life and have the same good reception then I'm willing to take a risk of flashing. I don't care about 3G etc, only voice.
I've tried all of them, and I keep going back to 1.48. Works the best for me.
dookie45 said:
I've tried all of them, and I keep going back to 1.48. Works the best for me.
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Yeah, that's what I heard. Where do I get it from? Is the 1.48 on this page is good (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms)?
I agree, 1.48 has given my the best results on the east coast.
1.48.10
I am in Michigan and get the best reception/batt life with 1.48.10
I am also however in a non 3G area as of yet, so I dont know how the reception is in a 3G area.
rainydaze said:
I am in Michigan and get the best reception/batt life with 1.48.10
I am also however in a non 3G area as of yet, so I dont know how the reception is in a 3G area.
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Your quote says you on 1.35. Anyway, where did you get 1.48.10?
Actually, you are not on the latest radio... 1.54.30.10 is the latest and I find that it works really well... I just have a lot of stuff going on, such as constant pulling of POP and Exchange email and Emoze, which monitors a different exchange account... Will all of that, I still get an easy 8 hours or so, before having to recharge.... I have gotten the best reception with this radio as well... And I am in NJ....
debonairone said:
Actually, you are not on the latest radio... 1.54.30.10 is the latest and I find that it works really well... I just have a lot of stuff going on, such as constant pulling of POP and Exchange email and Emoze, which monitors a different exchange account... Will all of that, I still get an easy 8 hours or so, before having to recharge.... I have gotten the best reception with this radio as well... And I am in NJ....
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Can you install acbPowerMeter and see what is your average power consumption is with only voice and bluetooth enabled and phone in idle mode (screen is off etc)
I was getting around 50-60 mA on old radio and about 20-30 with newly "upgraded" 1.48 one.
1.48's good here in Hellaware. Good GSM signal, and full 3Gizzle signal in most places. I had 1.54 but couldn't stand the battery drain...
I'm using 1.54.30.10 as well. It seems like the same battery life, however I haven't tested with the above suggested software. I can say that I can pick up 3g in places the other radios couldn't. At least it is a lot quicker to detect and use 3g than 1.54 or 1.50. I don't recall if I used 1.48 or not. I'm also in NJ. Good luck.
1.48 works great for me down here in FL, and when I was visiting up in NJ.
cirial said:
1.48 works great for me down here in FL, and when I was visiting up in NJ.
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The biggest question for me and others probably how battery life compared to newer version of Radio. I definetely saw improment (see my previous post) when downgraded to 1.48, was wondering if somebody with newer radio can run the same utility and see their power consumption.
In NJ, AT&T
I am running 1.50.00. Previously used 1.40.30 and 1.48. 1.48 seemed to be the best of the lot but 1.50 is nearly as good so I stick with it. I found that 1.48 had the best balance of signal strength and battery life. I think 1.50 has a slightly better signal strength, but somewhat lower battery life than 1.48.
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Can you install acbPowerMeter and see what is your average power consumption is with only voice and bluetooth enabled and phone in idle mode (screen is off etc)
I was getting around 50-60 mA on old radio and about 20-30 with newly "upgraded" 1.48 one.
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Where can I find acbPowerMeter? I will load and compare for you.
I've been running 1.54.00.10 since the day it came out. It has been the best compromise of battery life and recepction for me. I live in NJ too.
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Where can I find acbPowerMeter? I will load and compare for you.
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http://www.acbpocketsoft.com/Products/acbPowerMeter/acbPowerMeter-Overview-2.html
So it seems like my (US) TP2 is not getting very good reception at all. Internet sluggishly putters along and i rarely get above 3 bars. My old tilt had far better reception than this phone in the same areas im comparing them to now. Should I take my phone back to ATT and get a new one? or are the US att tilts just prone to poor reception? If so, any way to rectify this or boost my signal?
edit: Also phone seems to be very sluggish at times and needs soft resets quite a bit.. is this a problem with the stock ROM or is there a way to free up some memory by removing some hidden background programs that are pointless?
i think its the phone because on my tmobile tp2 i know of 1 dead zone where my mom gets no service at all with her phone and neither did i with my lg vu but since i got this phone i get 1-2 bars. did u flash the radio or anything?
USCC version works Great!
I don't know if it is the equipment fully. I have the USCC version of the TP2, and I gotta tell you. with my first TP I got 1 bar of signal. My ex, has a regular phone and she gets 2 bars. But When I sit in the living room here, I get four bars. I have better signal with the Tp2 than I have had with any other phone. I have been highly impressed with the signal so far.
I have my RHOD300 (Tilt2) on AT&T's network running Radio 4.49.25.17, and I've never had a better connection than on this phone. On my original Tilt, I only got a few bars and EDGE at my house, but with the radio listed above on my Rhodium, I get HSDPA at my house and everywhere else, and with 3 or 4 bars.
Also, carrier ROMs suck. That's why a good majority of the people here flash cooked ROMs. Most of the time, stock ROMs are completely bloated to the point where the device is notably slowed. Cooked ROMs, on the other hand, focus more on performance than free trials of crappy J2ME games and as a result are much faster. Flashing a new radio may also help with reception. As myself and many others have concluded, 4.49.25.17 is an excellent radio for most people.
However, if you don't want to flash a cooked ROM, then you might want to try this instead. That link tells how to manually remove all the AT&T crap they put on those devices, and should provide a little performance boost as well as some extra storage space.
I'm using the stock ROM on a Tilt 2 and the reception is the best of any phone I've had. (LOTS better than my wife's Nokia 5800...) The phone was a bit sluggish out of the box, but after applying the tweaks in the tweak threads, I'm very happy with the phone. Disabling Push internet helped a lot, as well as the Opera tweaks. The GPS tweaks are essential with this phone. Out of the box the GPS is really crappy. With the tweaks applied it works pretty good. Just look for the two tweak threads. One is a sticky in this sub forum. The other is the tweak thread specifically for the Tilt 2 version, and is not a sticky. (But it should be! )
The reception on this phone is like doubled compard to my Fuze. It used to be about every 20 minutes or so I'd lose reception at my desk but now it happens once a day max.
That depends on your mobile carrier and the area you live in
I had the original Tilt for a year then the Fuze for a year and now the Tilt 2 for the last month. Overall the Tilt 2 reception is at least as good as the other two. But I never had problems with the reception on any of them.
As others I get great reception on my Tilt2. However I've noticed AT&T's network get slower and slower over the last few months. Try seeing if you get the same sluggishness when you use a WiFi connection.
As far as the software itself, I was going to stick with the stock ROM for at least a week or two but performance was so bad that I switched to a custom rom. Absolutely worth it, the device runs so much smoother without all the AT&T bloat.
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I have my RHOD300 (Tilt2) on AT&T's network running Radio 4.49.25.17, and I've never had a better connection than on this phone. On my original Tilt, I only got a few bars and EDGE at my house, but with the radio listed above on my Rhodium, I get HSDPA at my house and everywhere else, and with 3 or 4 bars.
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I have att also, do you have a link to that radio cause mine is 4.48.25.20 and would love to see if version would work better as far as reception. I live in south jersey, and the 3G network is near dead with the flood of Iphones sucking up all the bandwidth, but my bars are always changing from 0-3 at least 3 or 4 times every 30 seconds.
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I have att also, do you have a link to that radio cause mine is 4.48.25.20 and would love to see if version would work better as far as reception. I live in south jersey, and the 3G network is near dead with the flood of Iphones sucking up all the bandwidth, but my bars are always changing from 0-3 at least 3 or 4 times every 30 seconds.
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lol, I know what you mean, here's a link to 4.49.25.17. All other known Rhodium radios can be found here. Hope that helps
Ok seems as though I am going to be needing to flash to a cooked ROM my only fear is bricking my phone since i am a complete noob to flashing anything my tilt1 went 2+ years and i didnt put a thing on it! so it looks like i will look into the different radio option as well as cleaning up the ATT programs that are taking up space unti i gather up the strength to hopefully not brick my tilt!
Edit: Downloaded the newer radio version, how do i go about installing this? I unpack the rar and am left with a rhodium custom RUU executable?
also how do i upgrade the GPS? Google maps and trapster are somewhat useless since its so slow to pan through it effectively and timely
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Ok seems as though I am going to be needing to flash to a cooked ROM my only fear is bricking my phone since i am a complete noob to flashing anything my tilt1 went 2+ years and i didnt put a thing on it! so it looks like i will look into the different radio option as well as cleaning up the ATT programs that are taking up space unti i gather up the strength to hopefully not brick my tilt!
Edit: Downloaded the newer radio version, how do i go about installing this? I unpack the rar and am left with a rhodium custom RUU executable?
also how do i upgrade the GPS? Google maps and trapster are somewhat useless since its so slow to pan through it effectively and timely
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To flash a new radio, here's what you need to do: You should have an EXE called CustomRUU and an NBH file called either RUU_SIGNED.NBH or RHODIMG.NBH. Connect your device via USB, wait until ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center recognizes your device, and then run CustomRUU.exe. If you get an antivirus warning, ignore it. Follow the instructions that CustomRUU.exe gives you, and you should be fine. If flashing a new radio doesn't work for some reason, you might need HardSPL. I don't think you need HardSPL for signed radio installs, but I'm not 100% sure.
The GPS is controlled by the Radio, so changing to another radio may help with this. I recommend using QuickGPS if it is included in your phone's ROM, as well as downloading Schap's Advanced Config and enabling AGPS under the GPS options in Advanced Config.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy
Thanx for pointing me to the radio, I installed it, and someone found the hack to shutoff the 3G band since 3G is dead here as I said, and the 2G signal is amazing, I consistently 85% of the time have 5 bars, I've never had that with my fuze, in 3G or 2G, so happy that my battery isnt being drained anymore because of the bouncing between 2G and 3G.
I installed the latest radio (ending in .57 I think) on my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 and my EDGE signal couldn't be any better! My neighborhood is a "Fair" patch on the map but now I easily get 3 bars inside when making calls, sometimes I see one bar but it's usually 2-3 bars vs 1-2. Idle I can get 4 but once you place a call it goes back down to 3.
Hello everyone.
So I bought this phone this past Friday and been having a blast with it. I bought the 2100mah verizon/samsung extended battery yesterday to have a bit better battery life with it. I have patience with battery life, so I'm ready to try anything.
Here's part 1 of my post (radio): So I'm on 4.0.4. I have the radio that comes with it. I noticed I can only get 1-2 bars (rarely 3) of signal at times. I read that the best way to post about this is in dBm so here are mines: -100 to -120 80% of the time. This is on 3g/4g/wifi. And it's rarely on 4g, it is always jumping to 3g. My mom has a thunderbolt and to test, I saw the thunderbolt had better dBm and always had a 4g signal, 3-4 bars constant, rarely 3g. I'm in Miami, Florida if it matters, which is a strong 4g area. When it's on 3g it gets very good signal, 3-4 bars and -80 dBm. Though sometimes I noticed my wi-fi gets 4 bars for like 10 minutes and returns back to 2 bars.
Anything I can do as far as the Radio, some people have fixed it with a new sim card but before I go get one (are they free?) let's see what I can try? Perphaps a new radio?
Part 2: Alright now as for the battery life. Here are my phone "stats": (screenshots are posted at the bottom of post for battery)
-4.0.4 Stock ROM nothing changed, just an unlocked bootloader.
-WiFi on when at home, off when using 3g/4g.
-NFC On.
-No syncing, everything updates when I open app (twitter, weather)
-Gmail is set to push, atleast I think so. It notifies me of a new email every time.
-48% Screen Brightness
-Signed OFF from Google+
That's it I believe, if anything else is needed let me know.
I have the XDA version of BetteryBatteryStats, so I guess I have the tool to fix it just need to pinpoint what the problem is. I'm draining at 2%-3% per hour with wi-fi, and no usage, just idle. Again this is with 4.0.4 update. I'm seeing people's battery life becoming awesome with some tweaking, so would like assistance on that.
Here are my screenshots:
Day 1 with ext battery on 4.0.4:
Day 2 with ext battery on 4.0.4:
Have you confirmed that you have the new radios installed?
I515.09 V.FA02 / I515.FA02 (or could show as I515.10 V.FA02 / I515.FA02)
You probably did that, but just wanted to be sure.
I have: I515.09 V.FA02 / I5I5.FA02
I appreciate the help!
How far off are you on strength from the T-Bolt? I think it's the 4.0.4 radios and I'll get into why I think that. Note that the following isn't scientific and I haven't really tested it, so don't spread this like it's fact. I live in a really strong 4G area, so in general I haven't noticed a difference with any of the various modems (I've tried them all). I will say that I worked for a week once in an area with poor Verizon coverage, and I noticed that the 4.0.2 radios worked better for me than the 4.0.3. Like, no coverage with 4.0.3 after upgrading to it, so I whipped my laptop out and pushed the 4.0.2 radios and got from zero bars w/ coverage to 1 bar. I don't know how the 4.0.2 radios compare to 4.0.4, but you might give that a whirl.
In general, I think that radio hype is just that, hype, and there's a reason why a slew of radios never make the final cut, but with Verizon trying to patch 3G/4G connectivity, I do think it's worth trying some other radio's out to see what they do in your area.
I hesitate to say the following because I have NOT paid that much attention or done significant testing on our radios, which is something I've done with previous devices. So do NOT take this as gospel, rather with a healthy dose of salt.
In my limited observation with 4.0.4, at least in my neighborhood/area of Birmingham (I have an LTE tower practically in my back yard), the 4.0.4 radios ARE weaker. With 4.0.2 radios for example, I want to say I got -70dBm on CDMA/1X in the house and usually -72dBm to -75dBm on LTE in the house. Right now, typing this thread on 4.0.4 with the phone showing 5 bars, I just checked my strength on LTE and it was registering -94dBm here at the house when I rolled onto CDMA, it showed -75dBm. When I rolled back onto LTE, it showed -75dBm (displaying 5 bars the entire time) then went to -87dBm a few minutes later. This is with the phone sitting on it's normal spot on my desk.
Random, first thoughts with 4.0.4:
1) We know that Verizon requested "updated" display bars for 4.0.4
2) There could be an issue in 4.0.4 with dBm updating/display. I haven't been at the house all day, I have roamed around, but I doubt very seriously that my real signal strength on LTE was really -94dBm here at home. When I say I have an LTE tower in my backyard, I'm literally talking about 1/4 of a mile away, on top of a hill.
3) 4.0.4 is not always registering/reading signal strength correctly, which is causing devices in a weak area to fall off of 4G and onto 3G when the issue isn't really with the tower, physical hardware, or the modem package, but on the way 4.0.4 is interpreting the signal information it's pulling in (based SOLELY on watching the signal range I just observed on LTE). That said, it easily could just be the tower this afternoon. AGAIN, take it all with a grain of salt.
I recommend trying the 4.0.2 radios, at a minimum. I would list them, but I don't know our radios off the top of my head yet (too much Vibrant info is still in my brain). Search for them, they're easy to find. BE SURE to push the CDMA/LTE radios paired together. Like, the 4.0.2 radios together, 4.0.3 radios together. Do NOT mix and match.
Generally speaking for people in good LTE areas, I think the 4.0.4 radio package is GREAT. I've noticed zero slow down. Yeah, -87dBm (which is what I normally see here at the house) IS "weak" and it SUCKS to have wrong bars displayed but I haven't noticed any slow down on the network. I think slightly scaling down LTE strength is what has helped improve battery life. CDMA radio strength does not appear to have been affected, which is what you're gonna be on in rural areas anyway so unless you're on the fringe of LTE signal like the OP, I don't think this radio package is anything to complain or be worried about.
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Also, in my experience as someone that travels all over for work, the only time that "weak" signal drains battery is when you're on the fringe of no connection and the OS is boosting power to the cell antenna's. On the old/real signal indicator, this was when you had a connection to Verizon with 0 bars and it was boosting you to 1 bar. I'm not comfortable stating a -dBm range because I can't remember what I observed and I didn't write it down. If you already have 1 or 2 bars (again, on the "old" signal indicator) you really don't see a boost given to the radios. By "boost", I mean you can click on the battery graph and see where signal strength went up and battery consumption did too, while your phone sat in the same place. I have a screen shot of this that I will try to find, and update this post with.
Looking at your screen shots, I don't see that affect. In general terms, your battery life looks "fine" "normal", whatever we want to call it. Bear in mind that our LTE GNex's don't get the same life as our GSM counterparts.
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Found the screen shot I was talking about. This was on stock 4.0.2 in my hotel room one night in a rural area. The night before I had data/sync on and noticed that when I woke up my battery was about dead. I knew it was due to signal strength since I was used to losing about 8% over night. So the following night I turned off data/sync and let it run over night, not wasting the opportunity to watch what would happen to battery life with and extra boost to the radio to get improved signal strength along with removing app/data activity from the battery consumption mix by keeping data/sync off. If I remember correctly, I went to bed @ 100% and woke up 7 hours 44 minutes later with something like 72% battery. Not only did the phone boost the power to the cellular antenna, but this activity also kept the phone from sleeping properly. I'm GLAD smart phone's can do this, but at a minimum, it turned a roughly 8% battery drain over X period of time into a 28% battery drain.
I hope my info/experiences haven't confused things further for you.
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So what have others found about CDMA battery life?? Mine is poor no matter what ROM or Kernel I seem to try to run. I also have attempted under voltages in SetCPU to see if that helps. Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Peace.
photolarry said:
So what have others found about CDMA battery life?? Mine is poor no matter what ROM or Kernel I seem to try to run. I also have attempted under voltages in SetCPU to see if that helps. Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Peace.
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You need to define "poor". Everyone's use is different as are their apps. If you truly have poor battery life no matter what, look at the three things that are always probably the same. 1) Your physical battery. Is it defective? 2) The apps you use. Perhaps you have an app that is acting up and syncing like crazy or wasting CPU cycles. 3) The area you live in. Do you have poor signal strength?
The biggest drain on your battery is ALWAYS going to be your screen, and data/sync. In my personal use, my biggest drain is: Screen Brightness 100%, Netflix running, Audio 100% through the speaker. This equals about 30% per hour with the Verizon Extended Battery depending on what all else syncs in the background...with a live wallpaper.
Undervolting is a misleading thing. People will disagree with me, but when you look at power consumption tables, undervolting does very little. When our phones display battery % remaining, it's not based on the actual juice left in the battery. It's a calculation based on charts that the phone manufacturer (probably Google in our case) took from the hardware manufacturer and put into play that basically says that at this Processor Speed (X), this Level of Power Consumption Occurred (Y). It happened for this Amount of Time (Z) and then it compiles that data and solves for an amount of power used giving us a percentage of remaining battery life. In general, this is VERY accurate. However, there are no values programed in to account for undervolting...or OVER clocking for that matter. For example, if you're overclocked to 1350MHz, then Android is going to use the values for 1200MHz. If you put a timer on your battery life, you'll see a longer run if you run your phone until it shuts itself off. But it's not THAT big of a difference. All the while when your watching how quickly your battery bar drops with your use, you can't see a a measurable difference.
In my experience with undervolting, doing so got me maybe an extra 5% boost in battery life. I can't equate that to a time because again, usage is different. In general, a 5% swing in a charge cycle can be easily accounted for by other things. Does your processor use more juice @ 1200MHz with normal volting compared to 1200MHz undervolted? Absolutely, but undervolting isn't going to get someone hours of extra battery life, especially when our screens usually account for 60%+ of our battery consumption. All said and done, undervolting results in gaining us very few percentage points in terms of what percentage of battery life our processors consumed.
Seems like the kernel and rom do make some difference not just apps. I use AutoStarts to prevent a mess of them starting upon boot. I am sure the screen takes a ton of it. But I am convinced that it depends on voltages and kernels too. Since I notice differences.
I recommend trying the 4.0.2 radios, at a minimum. I would list them, but I don't know our radios off the top of my head yet (too much Vibrant info is still in my brain). Search for them, they're easy to find. BE SURE to push the CDMA/LTE radios paired together. Like, the 4.0.2 radios together, 4.0.3 radios together. Do NOT mix and match.
Generally speaking for people in good LTE areas, I think the 4.0.4 radio package is GREAT. I've noticed zero slow down. Yeah, -87dBm (which is what I normally see here at the house) IS "weak" and it SUCKS to have wrong bars displayed but I haven't noticed any slow down on the network. I think slightly scaling down LTE strength is what has helped improve battery life. CDMA radio strength does not appear to have been affected, which is what you're gonna be on in rural areas anyway so unless you're on the fringe of LTE signal like the OP, I don't think this radio package is anything to complain or be worried about.
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Ok KWK, but there's a trade off here. If I try the 4.0.2 radios, that some people reported bad battery life on, it's just because it had a bad trade off for SOME
people right? So that means 4.0.2 radios could be good for me and result in better battery? Can I be on 4.0.4 and have the 4.0.2 radios?
Anyone know where to find these 4.0.2 radios and how to flash?
As for the battery life part of my post, what do you guys think I should try doing in betterbatterystats? A recent thread on here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483829&page=3 (Go to page 3 and last post) He got his life fixed. So that's nice to know there's tweaks that can be done. Any suggestions? Look at the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488680&page=6 thread too. "draining at 1% per hour in sleep mode & how are you doing it?"
I disagee with your comment about old 4.0.2 radios since 4.0.4 (FA02) radios have improved signal reception. It is possible that maybe it affects battery, but I kind of doubt it. Based on all the research so far, seems mostly screen eats it a lot as well as how you use all the apps on the phone as mentioned above. I mean isnt this a matter of some electrical engineering info (ie voltages etc) and how to tweak such things? I have CS degree but admit my hardware knowledge is not greatest.
Ugh, I'm in a mess now, lol. I called Verizon yesterday and followed their usual "signal solution" got me to 4 bars of 4g. Turned on WiFi - 2 bars, turned it off, back to 1-2 bar 4g that last for 30 seconds.
I'm starting to think it's the sim card.
Any suggestions for battery life? Seems my phone can't sleep. It's down to 83% after 5 hours. And all I've done is send 2-3 text messages. Do I turn off NFC for a start?
edit: Now I'm at 4 bars wifi. Goddam radios, they are so random, we'll assume the phone is trolling and continue to the solution.
bump for the night scary how fast it got to page 2.
let's get these issues fixed!
If your phone is searching for signal, then your battery life is already sucking it up. A "stronger" radio that uses a little more juice won't cause more drain than your phone will cause by throwing everything it can at the phone antenna. Just look at my screen shot from before...28% battery drained in 8 hours...an additional 20% due to the phone trying to keep a signal.
Like I said about your original screen shots, your battery life doesn't seem to be that "off to me". Just push different radios, and try them for at least a day.
Okay will do. Where can I find these other radios and how do I flash them?
Lastly, anyone here an expert on fixing phone isn't sleeping? Seems to be my major idle battery drain.
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Okay will do. Where can I find these other radios and how do I flash them?
Lastly, anyone here an expert on fixing phone isn't sleeping? Seems to be my major idle battery drain.
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You can find the radios here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481095
If you have the 4.0.2 radios, you can flash that ZIP in Clockwork Recovery Mod.
It will take a few minutes so leave it be and don't do a battery pull.
Well I have the 4.0.4 radios, does that change anything?
edit: after looking at that link you provided, are those even radios only? Seems like a bootloader & radio update from 4.0.2 -> 4.0.4. And I'm already on 4.0.4. But with horrid signal.
I have had the best results with the 4.0.4 radios but you mention you are already on them.
You can try flashing some older radios but I am not sure that will help your signal issues.
As far as finding out why you are having deep sleep issues, you can use Better Battery Stats to narrow down wakelocks.
With that said, if the phone is constantly in an area with poor signal, that will cause unnecessary battery drain as well.
Where can I find these older radios?
edit: I'd like to try the 4.0.2 radio.
Update 1: So today I powered it on after having it off from 7:00 AM to 2:45 PM. It's been idle, checked email for replies on this post and this is my battery:
Something is eating up it's idle time.
I noticed on the way back to my House it picked up a strong 4G signal for 5 minutes or so. Still looking to find where the 4.0.2 radios are. Noticing a stronger WiFi signal though, and the usual 4bar 3g. All I can find is the post from adranalyne about the radios from 4.0.2 -> 4.0.4. Something I was thinking about: If I flash 4.0.2 radios, say they are bad and I need to go back to 4.0.4 would that require a whole new flash of 4.0.4 or are there seperate radios?
Here are the betterbattery screenshots: (I have for last unplugged and charged not sure where it needs to be)
I too have an LTE Galaxy Nexus and have been switching from franco's and lean kernel in an attempt to gain battery life. I have a feeling you're not going to get much better battery life with LTE turned on. I've turned off sync and LTE overnight and the best I've gotten in deep sleep is about 1-1.5% an hour. That's all after hunting down all my unnecessary wakelocks and shutting them down (GTALK_asnyc, etc) and keeping my running programs to a minimum (email, lightflow, and weather1 are the only ones ever running besides stock apps with sync on weather1 on a 6 hour cycle)
All of the two day battery life posts I've seen all seem to be GSM phones, and typically I've been getting a full day pretty comfortably...
8 hours while sleeping + 8-13 hours of light to moderate usage (1-3 hours of screen time generally)..all with about 10-25% remaining at the end of my long days
That's excellent. But one problems: (1) I can't even get a 4g signal, at most for 5 minutes in an area that I regularly get it. I have a thunderbolt next to me running 3-4 bars. I know the GNex has a bad radio, but sheesh I atleast want to have SOME 4g.
Been trying to find a radio, can't find one though, if you can link one that'd be appreciated.
Anything you see there in betterybatterystats I should shut down, and do they start backup after boot? I see the GTALK thing you were talking about on mines too, how do I get rid of it?
edit: just a few hours after my first post today:
I'm at a loss here, but I know something is wrong for sure. I'm familiar with the low signal strength 'problem' on LTE networks as described at rootzwiki's thread entitled "This is why your Verizon Nexus signal "sucks" " I do not understand it inside and out, but I know enough to be at least 80% sure that this is not my issue. That thread describes a low signal strength, as in the dBm, but my problem is actual performance. I'm not comparing numbers (at least not on LTE networks), but results.
The problem is pretty bad, and pretty consistent. Without fail, my signal strength will be butchered, and with it data and even voice/text service will be unreliable or non existent inside any building. Not just some buildings, but any building. If I'm in a 4G area, I almost always lose the 4G, and it's switched to 3G with very poor performance (even for 3G standards). If I don't loose the 4G, the speed test results are horrid. I've had several cases where inside a building I still have 4G but the speeds might be 500-700 Kbps down/up or even worse, but when I step outside into the parking lot, 10-15 Mbps down 5-15 Mbps up. I realize structures absorb wireless signals and sometimes it can be pretty bad, but this is too much and too frequent to just be normal wireless signal degradation. It also doesn't seem to be the area because I've traveled through these areas before with my droid charge and I've never experienced issues anywhere close to this bad with my charge.
Some examples; the first time I noticed it was in the Greensboro, NC 4G area. Specifically at the Travel Centers of America about 10 miles east of the greensboro's border. When I first pulled into the truck stop (I drive a strait truck with a sleeper) I was pissed because my phone was on 3G, and I looked this area up before I came here on verizon's detailed 4G coverage map. This very truck stop was sitting in a dark maroon 4G area, NOT an extended 4G area. So I was angry, but I figured that there was an issue with the network, or the storm coming through was causing problems. Later the storm passed and I noticed (while walking back to my truck) that I was getting a strong 4G signal and good speeds, 5-10 Mbps down and 5 ish up. But as I sat back in even just the driver seat the signal strength dropped, and so did the speeds. I did a lot of tests later outside. I was performing speed tests at different locations all over the parking lot and I noticed the closer I got to the trucks, the poorer the performance. When I was inside my truck, and back in the sleeper, 4G was gone completely, taken over by a very poor 3G signal with slow speeds. I found that if I had my phone mounted on the windshield I was able to get reasonable 4G speeds, but still only a fraction of what I was able to get outside in the parking lot.
Another similar case happened in the Washington DC area at a walmart (Landover, MD). This time the 4G stuck even in the sleeper, but speeds were 2-3 Mbps down and about 700 Kbps up. While outside, however, 15 Mbps down and up.
Here I sit at another truck stop. This time, however, I'm in an extended 4G area (which of course means I have 3G) and I'm comparing my 3G signal strength to my Charge's signal strength. I know what I said earlier, but from what I understand about that "issue", gingerbread phones and earlier would give the CDMA signal strength because they couldn't read the 4G signal strength, but ICS and later can and so it displays the LTE signal strength. So wouldn't that mean that if you are in a 3G area, you can, in fact, accurately compare signal strength since they should both be displaying the CDMA signal strength? If that's the case, then what I'm getting is -100 dBm on my Galaxy Nexus and -87 dBm on my charge.
Something is most definitely wrong with my phone, but I don't know if it has anything to do with the Vicious JB stock rom I installed or not.
Vicious JellyBean 4.1 V5 is the version I installed, and I realize now that I did not install the latest (4.1.1 V1) but nonetheless I could not see it reported anywhere in the changelog, or any of the replies to the thread that there were very noticeable problems with the radio performance. I'm just at a loss and I really hope someone's reading this going "ah, I know exactly what that problem is". Although I'm never lucky enough to have a well known problem happen that there are fixes readily available for
Thanks very much for your time and help!
Bippity, boppity, bump!!
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I suggest you upgrade to the AOSP version that was released a couple of days ago. I have been running it for about 20 hours with very good results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797996
JB issues?
Soundfx,
I've noticed some strange data problems as well. I've only had my nexus for 3 days. The first thing I did was throw a JB ROM (actually, about 9 of them to try them all out) on the device. (Vicious was one of them) What I noticed was that pretty consistently, about 5-10 minutes after the flash, my phone would go from having 4 bars of LTE to no signal at all. My connection would drop completely. Although I didn't figure this out until the latter flashes, I did remember having connection issues when I tried going to the play store or the internet on all the ROMs. I'd have to switch of LTE, and then I'd start working again. At first I just figured that I'm in some sort of LTE dead zone or something. But it seemed strange that my connection would drop completely and I couldn't get it back for 30-60 seconds.
SO, this morning I took my device back to stock. Unrooted ICS from Verizon. And although I wasn't at home for more than a minute to do testing, it appears that my connection problems have gone away. So I'm wondering if it is a radio issue for JB roms. All that to say that I don't think your problem is just the vicious rom. If you wouldn't mind, I'd suggest you trying another ROM and seeing if you have the same issues.
I figure it could be a few things for my own issues, which could be similar to yours:
1. Toro JB roms just have radio issues. (Seems like more people would be clamoring on this forum though if that were true, and I haven't seen any other than you)
2. I have a bad piece of hardware. (Running my stock ICS rom should shake that out.)
3. I live in a verizon dead zone and will experience drops no matter what ROM I use. (Again, stock ICS should shake that out for me.)
4. Gnex has inferior radio hardware, and there is nothing to be done about it. (Doesn't seem likely.)
ALL that to say that, while I don't have an answer for you, I seem to be experiencing similar problems, and I'm trying to figure it out too.
I'll keep you updated as I hone in on a culprit of my problems. (IF I can)
JR
stickerbob said:
I suggest you upgrade to the AOSP version that was released a couple of days ago. I have been running it for about 20 hours with very good results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797996
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You say "the AOSP" version that was released, but what exactly does AOSP mean? I know what it stands for, Android Open Source Project, but every jelly bean rom I've seen (or most) has AOSP in it and I guess I don't grasp it's actual meaning.
The only thing I know for sure is that I want stock stock stockity stock stock! When devs build roms they tend to always have some sort of a bug or two, and I just never feel like they are stable enough. So I want as stock as I can get! Which is why I installed Vicious Stock JB.
I just really don't know though...I know the nexus apparently has radio problems anyway, but...I guess I can just try the latest roms and see what happens. Are there any radios that I can install maybe that would fix this? :\
whozamazinka said:
Soundfx,
I've noticed some strange data problems as well. I've only had my nexus for 3 days. The first thing I did was throw a JB ROM (actually, about 9 of them to try them all out) on the device. (Vicious was one of them) What I noticed was that pretty consistently, about 5-10 minutes after the flash, my phone would go from having 4 bars of LTE to no signal at all. My connection would drop completely. Although I didn't figure this out until the latter flashes, I did remember having connection issues when I tried going to the play store or the internet on all the ROMs. I'd have to switch of LTE, and then I'd start working again. At first I just figured that I'm in some sort of LTE dead zone or something. But it seemed strange that my connection would drop completely and I couldn't get it back for 30-60 seconds.
SO, this morning I took my device back to stock. Unrooted ICS from Verizon. And although I wasn't at home for more than a minute to do testing, it appears that my connection problems have gone away. So I'm wondering if it is a radio issue for JB roms. All that to say that I don't think your problem is just the vicious rom. If you wouldn't mind, I'd suggest you trying another ROM and seeing if you have the same issues.
I figure it could be a few things for my own issues, which could be similar to yours:
1. Toro JB roms just have radio issues. (Seems like more people would be clamoring on this forum though if that were true, and I haven't seen any other than you)
2. I have a bad piece of hardware. (Running my stock ICS rom should shake that out.)
3. I live in a verizon dead zone and will experience drops no matter what ROM I use. (Again, stock ICS should shake that out for me.)
4. Gnex has inferior radio hardware, and there is nothing to be done about it. (Doesn't seem likely.)
ALL that to say that, while I don't have an answer for you, I seem to be experiencing similar problems, and I'm trying to figure it out too.
I'll keep you updated as I hone in on a culprit of my problems. (IF I can)
JR
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Thank you kindly sir, and I will give a few other roms a shot just to see what I can find out and report back!
I tried flashing a few different roms; Liquid TORO Alpha 6, Vicious CM10 Toro, and Vicious JB 4.1.1 v1. All three of them as soon as the phone booted up showed the exact same poor 3G signal quality in the back sleeper while I'm in a dark maroon 4G area. Although I don't think I did a proper rom installation. They roms definitely installed, but it upgraded and installed over what I had...which I didn't realize it would do at all. I'll try doing it properly rom installation with a JB toro rom and then I'm going back to stock ICS to see what it looks like. I'm actually, right now, back at the truck stop that I originally noticed this problem. I'll post back.
I tried flashing back to stock 4.0.4 ICS build with the most recent radios, then I tried EK06 EK05 radios. It was the same across the board. No matter what rom/radios i use, the signal quality was the same. I lost service completely inside the building and in the sleeper it drops to 3G with incredibly poor signal quality :\ -100 dBm -120 dBm I'm going to try and get a new SIM card. if that doesn't solve it...then I guess it's time to look for a new phone :\
It seems like the developers are in a holding pattern until new radios are leaked. If it's that bad, there's no real harm in sticking w/ ICS until we get radios. Some really sweet things have been done by the community in the meantime.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium
well I already had vicious 4.1 installed with my apps and all that stuff and it's the same across the board. So I'll be sticking with this until something pops up I guess :\ I'm still definitely going to check about getting a new SIM card; it's the only option, short of another phone, that I can try at this poing. -shrugs- :\
Best battery life iv ever had on a phone after that update!!
Amazing signal and speeds everywhere now
No unnecessary battery drain at all
Haven't came across any of my old bugs
Phone feels solid now and videos and pictures are much better
What's your thoughts?
when did you update your device? I've always had great battery life on the 6pro (like 8+) but it takes a few days to really notice any change.
I really don't want to say this but something did change for me. Before signal, fingerprint and everything else was perfect. now I can't get 5G or LTE+ most of the time and I live 0.3km away from a 4/5g tower. really weird. maybe I'll try another factory reset. not sure though. the first time it corrupted my phone//