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Bluetooth and the XDA2s - assign button to toggle bluetooth?

For anyone that's interested:
My XDA2s works perfectly with my nokia CK-7W car kit with the standard widcomm software - only for phone audio as you'd expect - xda2s detects the car kit as soon as i turn it on. The only function I can't get it to work with is the voice dial. it does last number redial, answer, reject etc.
It also pairs with my computer and hotsync etc works nicely - no problems there. I was able to pair it with my wife's nokia 6310 and swap MP3/AAC files from the nokia to the xda2s (not that it knew what to do with an atrac ), but can't seem to do it the otherway round as the xda2s only seems to let you push 'obex' calendar, contact etc objects, not files etc.
One question - can I assign a button to toggle bluetooth on and off - i'd prefer not to have to go back to the start menu and turn it on that way - i'd prefer just to press a button on it as i'm getting in the car

You might try using this little app and map h/w button to it. It will toggle bluetooth on/off. Originally for Smartphones but hey it works for me on XDA2 so I'm not quite sure if it's gonna work on widcomm stack but worth a try eh?

nokia CK-7W car kit
Got a nokia CK-7W car kit for my XDA2 only to find out it doesn't work. Could you give me some help with the way you got yours to work ? Where do you find standard widcomm software ?
Thanks
Steve[/b]

Re: nokia CK-7W car kit
srdeacon said:
Got a nokia CK-7W car kit for my XDA2
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Sorry mine is the XDAiis - it works because it has the half decent WIDCOMM stack on it, not the MS stack in use in the XDA2.
Sorry i can't be more help - don't know if you can rip out the MS stack and use WIDCOMM / Broadcomm drivers instead?

oldpoem said:
You might try using this little app and map h/w button to it. It will toggle bluetooth on/off. Originally for Smartphones but hey it works for me on XDA2 so I'm not quite sure if it's gonna work on widcomm stack but worth a try eh?
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Thanks for the assistance - sorry it doesn't work with the widcomm drivers but i appreciate the help!
Thanks
Ant

anthonyeeles said:
oldpoem said:
You might try using this little app and map h/w button to it. It will toggle bluetooth on/off. Originally for Smartphones but hey it works for me on XDA2 so I'm not quite sure if it's gonna work on widcomm stack but worth a try eh?
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Thanks for the assistance - sorry it doesn't work with the widcomm drivers but i appreciate the help!
Thanks
Ant
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May be OzBT will help you.

mr criggy bo
hi i too have an xda2 and i also have a nokia ck-7w
also when i turn car kit on immediatly the xda 2 finds it i enter code and
nothing works!!! cant redial cant pickup wont seem to work at all
i need help can anyone help with this _ do i need a new blue tooth phone?
this is so annoying
thanks
criggster

XDA 2S BLuetooth Reception

Hi All,
Long time viewer, first time poster.
Firstly would like to thank many of you for posting awsome information and providing a great deal of help to people like myself who rely on these places to get the infor required to really enjoy our PDA/Phones
Ok now to the problem
I have an XDA 2S with the latest Rom, i use it for business because of the WiFi and its ability to browse websites and support Putty
However since getting it i have had nothing but problems with using Bluetooth on it , i now have 6 different Bluetooth Brands ranging from Nokia, Ericsson, Blueant and Jabra and to date none have provided me with quality Bluetooth voice...... Well nothing like my Nokia or NEC mobile phones.
The issue i have is that voice is constantly breaking up, even when the phone is like 30cm away from the Bluetooth, i have tried everything but one thing!
And this is where i need to probe the wisdom of some of you
1. Is there a way to upgrade the Bluetooth Drivers on the phone? IF there is can some one direct me to either downloads, Litriture for reading or to any websites that talk about it.
2. Is there a way to upgrade the Bluetooth Firmware from version 1.1 to 1.2? The guy i was speaking with from O2 said that he has heard/seen people do it in some cases was successful and in other cases destroyed the phone to the point where a re-load had to be carried out.
Any infromation on this problem that others can share with me would be greatly appreciated, if anyone else is having this same problem please do share your experience with me and if any work arounds let me know
Mobile Spec's:
O2 XDA 2S
Firmware 1.40
Radio version 1.12
Bluetooth Headset = Nokia HS-26W
If i lack any information please let me know.
Thank you in advance
Cheers,
David.

if your bluetooth stack is not vidcomm do a search in the forum for vidcomm
it's generaly seen as a better stack then ms's one

Rudegar said:
if your bluetooth stack is not vidcomm do a search in the forum for vidcomm
it's generaly seen as a better stack then ms's one
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Thank you Rudegar i appreciate your assistance
Is there a way on my O2 that i can see what stack i have?
Once again thank you for your reply.
Cheers,
David.
Update: I have the BT 1.0.0.0 Build 3900 BT stack on my O2 XDA-2S not sure if the Update will work on my phone, dont really feel ike bricking it yet, so if anyone has had any measure of success with upgrading the BT stack on the same model phone i am interested to hear the reports.

donno if it looks like this it's vidcomm
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=1477

Widcomm Bluetooth stack on JasJar & removing MS stack

did anybody try to replace the original MS Bluetooth stack with the Widcomm Bluetooth stack?
i'm trying to do that with the broadcom bluetooth stack 1.7.0 from aximsite.
and how to completely remove the original MS stack?

was there any progress with this?

it is also described in the Axim thread
Sorry I cannot remember but the description on how to remove the MS stack is also in that same thread.... Yeah, it is a bloody long thread...

parallel666killer said:
did anybody try to replace the original MS Bluetooth stack with the Widcomm Bluetooth stack?
i'm trying to do that with the broadcom bluetooth stack 1.7.0 from aximsite.
and how to completely remove the original MS stack?
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do let us know if you succeed

See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696

Menneisyys said:
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
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Those threads are showing development, so I guess we'll have to wait and see if there is a final product that shows up
Thanks for the link. There also was a posting in there that it did NOT work on the Universal. Thoughts?

hmm... I hv a newer Broadcomm Stack 1.7.6.500 and 1.7.1.9000 workin with Universal, but currently Pausin the progress due the problem with my memory...lol.. I've forgot the setting/configuration to enable Handsfree Profile with Universal, previously I've successfully make handsfree (transmit all audio to standar BT headset), and about A2DP its globaly known that Broadcomm is so much better with A2DP then M$ one. Hopes I'll hv time to play with it again.
Last progress:
- Blue led didn't turn on, but It will if u suspend the device, and it will blink even after u turn off broadcomm stack..
- Forgoten the Handsfree setting/configuration
- Others function seems to be workin ok.

Can u share the version you have and the way to install it please.

Hello,
I think you don't need to remove M$ stack, just turn it off by doin the following:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Transports\BuiltIn\2]
"driver"="_bthuart.dll"
Add a "_" and the m$ is off.

NikMel said:
Hello,
I think you don't need to remove M$ stack, just turn it off by doin the following:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Transports\BuiltIn\2]
"driver"="_bthuart.dll"
Add a "_" and the m$ is off.
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Anyone read this? http://www.pdagold.com/articles/detail.asp?a=197
If I am not mistaken they say that there is a security vulnerability in the Widcomm Bluetooth 1.4.2 and no patch was released. Is 1.7 going to fix this security issue? Also does M$ have this same problem?
What is the benefit of switching over to Widcomm?

onlineemails said:
Can u share the version you have and the way to install it please.
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I'll share it latter, currently I dont hv the device with me to test it again, the installation should be simply with a cab to disable MS bt and enable broadcom stack..

I have installed it. but its doesnt work i have readen that i should change the port in registry keys do you know what is universal bluetooth number?

A2DP quality fixes in new roms...

I've heard about a bunch of new roms (the BLACK and LVSW) that have somehow cleared up that nasty A2DP bug in the Microsoft BT stack that caused certain headsets to buzz and hiss with certain frequencies.
I'm wondering if anyone here knows how that works, what has changed in these new Roms? Are they updated bluetooth drivers from MS?
I'm wondering if we can't put together a new a2dp patch for other devices so that additional phones can benefit as well, without getting a whole new rom (similar to the way the initial Tornado A2DP patch was circulated around).
Anyone have any info?
Can anyone even verify that this is true? (I don't have a hermes, but I do have an i.tech R35 headset with horrible distortion from any windows Mobile device playing music... I'm just assuming what I've heard is true about new roms fixing it...)

The only change is to some registry entries, the HTCustom tool should work on most any phone. Black's config tool should work but sometimes crashes on other roms when you try to save.

I have got the same problem with my iTech. I think it is something related to the design of the bluetooth headset. Is anyone experiencing the same problem with a solution?

nope maybe your release is a bad bath?

My Hermes with the Black ROM works fine with my Jabra BT620s. Hands-free mode works flawlessly too.

porkchop83 said:
nope maybe your release is a bad bath?
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No no no, this is KNOWN issue with the MS stack and certain Bluetooth headsets, including the R35.
Its not the headset.
Proof is that when paired with another device, IE a nokia, or PC running bluesoleil, it works just fine- no hissing, very good audio quality.
Also, tested on a Wizard using the Widcomm stack instead of the MS stack, and sure enough it works GREAT!
So, its clearly a problem with the MS Windows Mobile stack, and in fact it has been discussed in various forums here.
Shadowmite, are you sure its just registry changes?
Is there any way to find out what they are?

Dishe said:
No no no, this is KNOWN issue with the MS stack and certain Bluetooth headsets, including the R35.
Its not the headset.
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Correct. I had that problem with my Vodafone V1640 (HTC Universal). Kind of solved that problem using the Widcomm stack patch uploaded by someone here. Go search for it.

richardlai said:
Correct. I had that problem with my Vodafone V1640 (HTC Universal). Kind of solved that problem using the Widcomm stack patch uploaded by someone here. Go search for it.
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Yes, I mentioned that I had it working with the Widcomm stack on a Wizard, but I'd rather have a working MS stack for various reasons including the Widcomm stack's instability on certain devices, and more importantly, its not available on the Tornado and Vox (or any smartphone), which is my device of choice at the moment!
So, once again, does anyone know what these new roms do to "fix" the problem?
Its gotta be something I can re-create...

Dishe said:
Yes, I mentioned that I had it working with the Widcomm stack on a Wizard
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Sorry, I missed that part.
I didn't notice that Bluetooth performs differently in custom ROMs on the same hardware. If it is true, the ROM creators would know what they have done. Try contacting them directly if no one else here knows.

Does the WIDCOMM bluetooth stack install work with Dell Axim x51v WM6 (Football)?

I want to be able to tether my Axim x51v up to my cell phone using bluetooth so I can access the internet occasionally. I tried to install the WIDCOMM bluetooth stack and then the x51v was no longer visible by Vista's Windows Mobile Device Center. I ended up doing a hard reset and am back to the Microsoft bluetooth stack which is so limited in comparison. Anyone have any suggestions?

I am using WIDCOMM bluetooth stack install work with Dell Axim x51v WM6 (Football), I can connect to my cell phone using bluetooth and access the internet...

rolwu: can you go into settings --> connections --> usb to pc and try to uncheck 'enable advanced network functionality' and tell me what happens please? also, do you still have a 'bluetooth explorer' icon in programs? what happens if you click on that icon? just a couple of the problems that i had right off the bat with the widcomm bluetooth stack and want to see if you have them as well. it is very possible that i installed it wrong or just did something incorrectly. thanks!

Broadcomm stack works on my ROM and works fine

Football said:
Broadcomm stack works on my ROM and works fine
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Yes it works!!!!
Hi Football, are you planning to remove the old Microsoft Stack ? It would be nice to release also a Widcomm enabled ROM...
Cheers!

Football: first of all, thank you for the work you did to create the great WM6 image for the Axim x51v. You have breathed new life into my old device.
If you would not mind Football, would you please give me a link to the Broadcomm stack that you installed and instructions, or a link to a thread that provides instructions, on how to install it? For some reason the one that I installed, Widcomm (which I assume is the same as Broadcomm), did not work properly.
Oh, and do you have a paypal account Football? I would not mind sending you a small gift as a token of my appreciation for your efforts.

I went ahead and tried to install the BroadcomBluetoothStackX51V05 from aximsite (which I assume is the correct one to use) and performed a soft reset as instructed. I then made the change to the registry to set the flow control value to '0' (not sure if that is still required). However, I have a few problems using this bluetooth stack:
(a) The Axim will no longer synchronize with Windows Mobile Device Center (using Vista Ultimate). If someone can please explain how to get this working I would appreciate it.
(b) If I go into Settings --> Connections --> USB to PC, I can not uncheck the 'Enable advanced network functionality' or I get this error - "Failed to disable RNDIS to use Serial." It was suggested to uncheck this in other posts related to troubleshooting failed connections with WMDC.
(c) Programs --> Bluetooth Explorer, when launched tells me that "Bluetooth radio is turned off. Do you want to turn it on?" Bluetooth is already on but I select 'Yes' and eventually it tells me "Failed to turn on Bluetooth radio."
These are the problems I have noticed so far. Do others who are using this Bluetooth stack have the same problems with the WM6 A03 ROM? Can you synchronize with Windows Mobile Device Center?
I appreciate you help and feedback.

Hi djlenoir...
I installed the Widcomm stack from Aximsite and I also experienced same problems as you...
The '0' in the registry is not required for normal operation I think. The Hardware Flow Control must be disabled only if you connect an A2DP device to improve performance and stabilty. I'm having issue about point (c) as you and I think the BT explorer only works with MS Stack... When I tried It, also created a useless bluetooth device folder(same as CF or SD) in the file explorer wich I had to remove deleting a startup menu shortcut created by the system. Another issue is the BT Obex file transfer speed wich cannot be sustained at so high default speed (I'm having chopping between 2 and 60 KB/s. Reverting to slow speed using BTSpeedSwitcher seems to solve the problem but speed si only 28-30 KB/s. Tryed with MANY BT dongles and different PC stack (Widcomm, M$, Bluesoleil).
Cheers

Football Add The BroadCom Bluetooth Stack To Your New WM6 A05 ROM
Yes, the broadcom bluetooth stack works perfect with the X51v running Football's wm6 RTM A03 ROM. Now Football all you need to do now is add the broadcom bluetooth stack to your new wm6 A05 ROM! It's got the perfect setup for SKYPE!

Technology said:
Yes, the broadcom bluetooth stack works perfect with the X51v running Football's wm6 RTM A03 ROM. Now Football all you need to do now is add the broadcom bluetooth stack to your new wm6 A05 ROM! It's got the perfect setup for SKYPE!
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I feel the opposite and prefer to leave MS BT stack since we can always install the Broadcom stack whenever we like. In fact, I found the A2DP sound quality a lot better from the original stack

BroadCom Bluetooth Stereo Sound Quality, The Better Of The Two!
jackleung said:
I feel the opposite and prefer to leave MS BT stack since we can always install the Broadcom stack whenever we like. In fact, I found the A2DP sound quality a lot better from the original stack
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With out a doubt, the broadcom bluetooth stack has better stereo sound quality, than the Microsoft bluetooth stack, that's plain to see and hear. Plus I use the broadcom bluetooth stack to make VOIP (SKYPE) phone calls but I cannot do that with the Microsoft bluetooth stack.

Bluetooth {DUN"} Via Smartphone And The x51v Running The BroadCom Bluetooth Stack!
rolwu said:
I am using WIDCOMM bluetooth stack install work with Dell Axim x51v WM6 (Football), I can connect to my cell phone using bluetooth and access the internet...
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Read my thread in the Excalibur forum on how I installed the bluetooth Dun.cab file on my T-Mobile Dash, now I can pair both devices (my X51v and my T-Mobile Dash) via bluetooth Dun, go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340762 and get the bluetooth Dun.cab file download and complete details, works like a charm...............!

Technology said:
With out a doubt, the broadcom bluetooth stack has better stereo sound quality, than the Microsoft bluetooth stack, that's plain to see and hear. Plus I use the broadcom bluetooth stack to make VOIP (SKYPE) phone calls but I cannot do that with the Microsoft bluetooth stack.
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It's only without "your" doubt. Not to mention a serious bug in broadcom A2DP (across all PDA I tested) which system volume adjustment is not working. I found my SE HBH-DS220 a lot worse than the original MS stack on x51v. (But the same handset works very good w/ my Asus P525 which also has use broadcom stack. Maybe some tweak is need...)
Since different people got different need, it's better to leave it and have the user to install broadcom stack as needed

Menneisyys And Mike Spikle Were The First To Come With The Broadcom BT Stack!
jackleung said:
It's only without "your" doubt. Not to mention a serious bug in broadcom A2DP (across all PDA I tested) which system volume adjustment is not working. I found my SE HBH-DS220 a lot worse than the original MS stack on x51v. (But the same handset works very good w/ my Asus P525 which also has use broadcom stack. Maybe some tweak is need...)
Since different people got different need, it's better to leave it and have the user to install broadcom stack as needed
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I have been using the Broadcom bluetooth stack way back before Dell ever thought of a x51v! We only had the X50v back then in those days! (Old School) Menneisyys and his friend Mike Spikle were the first ones to introduce the Broadcomm bluetooth stack and I still have the same download of their first original fix with the bluetoothspeedswitcher.zip and the flowcontrolhack.reg on both of my x51v's. I have never had a skipping problem, the stereo sound is perfect. Menneeisyys uses the Plantronics 590A bluetooth headset and I also use the same headset for that perfect stereo sound quality. Maybe, you are using a different broadcom bluetooth stack, than what we are using, because I have no problem using the volume control (high or low) again it works like a charm and always has.................!