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I need a ROM cooking mentor ! Need Radio/BT A2DP

Hello,
would be happy to exchange french cooking, but ROM cooking is, if I understand, what I need to do, if I wish to upgrade my SPV M2000 (Orange France).
Could someone help me understand and manage my ROM cooking?
My cooking 'chef' !
Would like to get a clear view, understanding, method, issues of what/how cooking is.
My first goal is to enhance the BT capabilities of my SPV: BT is working just with the SIM phone, I would like to be able to have audio capabilities for any sound capable applications (mp3 player, IP phone, other).
I heard about A2DP profile, is that a software to add? a registry keys to activate? is that included in a BT latest version?
Could someone help me on that?
I use IP phone extensively, wirelessly, with global roaming, will appreciate to share my experience on using this almost WW free calling feature.
Call me !
Jennyfer
Paris - France.

to get a2dp you need to get the broadcom bluetooth stack and do some regitry changes
mind you if you do switch to that bluetooth stack you loose the ability to use a bluetooth headset for phone
IP phone require a much bigger bandwidth then gprs can give so to use programs like skype and such you need to be on wifi otherwise they will only send text
cooking is really a left over from the way that xda1's worked
with later models people just unlock the extented rom and place the cab files they want in there

Thank you, Rudegar, for your prompt answer.
So, you say that "cooking" is from past, and that now the method with extended rom is selecting/using cab files?
Where can I get the broadcom bluetooth stack ?
(have ftp client to xda ftp site)
Which registry changes I have to do ?
Why BT A2DP imply to have phone call with Bt impossible ?
Is there a strategy to have both ?
So many questions, but am really new at that !
Thank you!
Jennyfer

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25443&highlight=a2dp
i link to the 2 threads about a2dp in this thread where you can download and see the registry settings which need changed
and i have both "a2dp" and headset on my xda2 because i use the i-Phono headset which kinda cheat with the a2do part using a dongle
and yes today people place programs they want autoinstalled in the extented rom and there is no way to place programs in the real rom like people could on xda1

Rudegar, you said: "and i have both "a2dp" and headset on my xda2 because i use the i-Phono headset which kinda cheat with the a2do part using a dongle"
This mean there is a way to keep headset profile along with A2DP profile ?
So your i-Phono headset works with both SIMphone and other audio applications?
What is a2dp part / dongle?
thanks for yor help!
Jennyfer

Rudegar,
the first link pointed to an unavailable file.
I got the Broadcomm BT 1.6.... from second link.
So, I just have to install CabInst (better tool?) on my BA? and install this cab from the BA?
Does I have to tweak registry?
I never did this and would not like to mess it !
Jennyfer

I found this audio gateway registry settings from MSDN/Dev, does it apply to 2003SE ?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...html/wce50conaudiogatewayregistrysettings.asp
It is like if BT is never totally activated (even on mobile 5.0), so perhaps these keys could wakeup some BT features?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=11729&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50
the reg changes are described here
about cab files then personaly i just double click on them when i wanted them to install manualy
but otherwise you dont need to do anything with them apart from copying the cab files into the extented rom dir and adding their name in the config.txt in the same dir

cannot find it while file-exploring my BA.
Where is located the "extended rom dir" on the Pocket PC ?

being newbie, if I well understand, I have to use the extended rom unlock tool to access extended rom dir ?
and then edit config.txt in \windows.
I put my cab here.
And then?
- system update it automatically?
- or does I have to soft? hard? reboot?
be explicit, please! afraid to break my system.

yes you have to unlock and unhide your extented rom using the program
no you have to hardreset in order for it to install the cab files

I could have started reading the BA wiki first ! I did.
My best advice to newbies (as I am) is to start by wiki.
So, if I well understand, I can change my langage, and everything, choosing, whichever ROM, Radio & so on on my Orange France originated SPV, and install, by example, English ROM 1.4, latest radio & BT ?

Has anyone got Widcom to work with A2DP and Headset profile?
I can get my Sonorix BT stereo headset connected to both profiles, however the headset one only partially works. Call answer doesnt work - although cancel call does. Wierd. Mp3's stream fine in WMP10 though via A2DP.

A2DP quality fixes in new roms...

I've heard about a bunch of new roms (the BLACK and LVSW) that have somehow cleared up that nasty A2DP bug in the Microsoft BT stack that caused certain headsets to buzz and hiss with certain frequencies.
I'm wondering if anyone here knows how that works, what has changed in these new Roms? Are they updated bluetooth drivers from MS?
I'm wondering if we can't put together a new a2dp patch for other devices so that additional phones can benefit as well, without getting a whole new rom (similar to the way the initial Tornado A2DP patch was circulated around).
Anyone have any info?
Can anyone even verify that this is true? (I don't have a hermes, but I do have an i.tech R35 headset with horrible distortion from any windows Mobile device playing music... I'm just assuming what I've heard is true about new roms fixing it...)

The only change is to some registry entries, the HTCustom tool should work on most any phone. Black's config tool should work but sometimes crashes on other roms when you try to save.

I have got the same problem with my iTech. I think it is something related to the design of the bluetooth headset. Is anyone experiencing the same problem with a solution?

nope maybe your release is a bad bath?

My Hermes with the Black ROM works fine with my Jabra BT620s. Hands-free mode works flawlessly too.

porkchop83 said:
nope maybe your release is a bad bath?
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No no no, this is KNOWN issue with the MS stack and certain Bluetooth headsets, including the R35.
Its not the headset.
Proof is that when paired with another device, IE a nokia, or PC running bluesoleil, it works just fine- no hissing, very good audio quality.
Also, tested on a Wizard using the Widcomm stack instead of the MS stack, and sure enough it works GREAT!
So, its clearly a problem with the MS Windows Mobile stack, and in fact it has been discussed in various forums here.
Shadowmite, are you sure its just registry changes?
Is there any way to find out what they are?

Dishe said:
No no no, this is KNOWN issue with the MS stack and certain Bluetooth headsets, including the R35.
Its not the headset.
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Correct. I had that problem with my Vodafone V1640 (HTC Universal). Kind of solved that problem using the Widcomm stack patch uploaded by someone here. Go search for it.

richardlai said:
Correct. I had that problem with my Vodafone V1640 (HTC Universal). Kind of solved that problem using the Widcomm stack patch uploaded by someone here. Go search for it.
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Yes, I mentioned that I had it working with the Widcomm stack on a Wizard, but I'd rather have a working MS stack for various reasons including the Widcomm stack's instability on certain devices, and more importantly, its not available on the Tornado and Vox (or any smartphone), which is my device of choice at the moment!
So, once again, does anyone know what these new roms do to "fix" the problem?
Its gotta be something I can re-create...

Dishe said:
Yes, I mentioned that I had it working with the Widcomm stack on a Wizard
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Sorry, I missed that part.
I didn't notice that Bluetooth performs differently in custom ROMs on the same hardware. If it is true, the ROM creators would know what they have done. Try contacting them directly if no one else here knows.

Does the WIDCOMM bluetooth stack install work with Dell Axim x51v WM6 (Football)?

I want to be able to tether my Axim x51v up to my cell phone using bluetooth so I can access the internet occasionally. I tried to install the WIDCOMM bluetooth stack and then the x51v was no longer visible by Vista's Windows Mobile Device Center. I ended up doing a hard reset and am back to the Microsoft bluetooth stack which is so limited in comparison. Anyone have any suggestions?

I am using WIDCOMM bluetooth stack install work with Dell Axim x51v WM6 (Football), I can connect to my cell phone using bluetooth and access the internet...

rolwu: can you go into settings --> connections --> usb to pc and try to uncheck 'enable advanced network functionality' and tell me what happens please? also, do you still have a 'bluetooth explorer' icon in programs? what happens if you click on that icon? just a couple of the problems that i had right off the bat with the widcomm bluetooth stack and want to see if you have them as well. it is very possible that i installed it wrong or just did something incorrectly. thanks!

Broadcomm stack works on my ROM and works fine

Football said:
Broadcomm stack works on my ROM and works fine
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Yes it works!!!!
Hi Football, are you planning to remove the old Microsoft Stack ? It would be nice to release also a Widcomm enabled ROM...
Cheers!

Football: first of all, thank you for the work you did to create the great WM6 image for the Axim x51v. You have breathed new life into my old device.
If you would not mind Football, would you please give me a link to the Broadcomm stack that you installed and instructions, or a link to a thread that provides instructions, on how to install it? For some reason the one that I installed, Widcomm (which I assume is the same as Broadcomm), did not work properly.
Oh, and do you have a paypal account Football? I would not mind sending you a small gift as a token of my appreciation for your efforts.

I went ahead and tried to install the BroadcomBluetoothStackX51V05 from aximsite (which I assume is the correct one to use) and performed a soft reset as instructed. I then made the change to the registry to set the flow control value to '0' (not sure if that is still required). However, I have a few problems using this bluetooth stack:
(a) The Axim will no longer synchronize with Windows Mobile Device Center (using Vista Ultimate). If someone can please explain how to get this working I would appreciate it.
(b) If I go into Settings --> Connections --> USB to PC, I can not uncheck the 'Enable advanced network functionality' or I get this error - "Failed to disable RNDIS to use Serial." It was suggested to uncheck this in other posts related to troubleshooting failed connections with WMDC.
(c) Programs --> Bluetooth Explorer, when launched tells me that "Bluetooth radio is turned off. Do you want to turn it on?" Bluetooth is already on but I select 'Yes' and eventually it tells me "Failed to turn on Bluetooth radio."
These are the problems I have noticed so far. Do others who are using this Bluetooth stack have the same problems with the WM6 A03 ROM? Can you synchronize with Windows Mobile Device Center?
I appreciate you help and feedback.

Hi djlenoir...
I installed the Widcomm stack from Aximsite and I also experienced same problems as you...
The '0' in the registry is not required for normal operation I think. The Hardware Flow Control must be disabled only if you connect an A2DP device to improve performance and stabilty. I'm having issue about point (c) as you and I think the BT explorer only works with MS Stack... When I tried It, also created a useless bluetooth device folder(same as CF or SD) in the file explorer wich I had to remove deleting a startup menu shortcut created by the system. Another issue is the BT Obex file transfer speed wich cannot be sustained at so high default speed (I'm having chopping between 2 and 60 KB/s. Reverting to slow speed using BTSpeedSwitcher seems to solve the problem but speed si only 28-30 KB/s. Tryed with MANY BT dongles and different PC stack (Widcomm, M$, Bluesoleil).
Cheers

Football Add The BroadCom Bluetooth Stack To Your New WM6 A05 ROM
Yes, the broadcom bluetooth stack works perfect with the X51v running Football's wm6 RTM A03 ROM. Now Football all you need to do now is add the broadcom bluetooth stack to your new wm6 A05 ROM! It's got the perfect setup for SKYPE!

Technology said:
Yes, the broadcom bluetooth stack works perfect with the X51v running Football's wm6 RTM A03 ROM. Now Football all you need to do now is add the broadcom bluetooth stack to your new wm6 A05 ROM! It's got the perfect setup for SKYPE!
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I feel the opposite and prefer to leave MS BT stack since we can always install the Broadcom stack whenever we like. In fact, I found the A2DP sound quality a lot better from the original stack

BroadCom Bluetooth Stereo Sound Quality, The Better Of The Two!
jackleung said:
I feel the opposite and prefer to leave MS BT stack since we can always install the Broadcom stack whenever we like. In fact, I found the A2DP sound quality a lot better from the original stack
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With out a doubt, the broadcom bluetooth stack has better stereo sound quality, than the Microsoft bluetooth stack, that's plain to see and hear. Plus I use the broadcom bluetooth stack to make VOIP (SKYPE) phone calls but I cannot do that with the Microsoft bluetooth stack.

Bluetooth {DUN"} Via Smartphone And The x51v Running The BroadCom Bluetooth Stack!
rolwu said:
I am using WIDCOMM bluetooth stack install work with Dell Axim x51v WM6 (Football), I can connect to my cell phone using bluetooth and access the internet...
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Read my thread in the Excalibur forum on how I installed the bluetooth Dun.cab file on my T-Mobile Dash, now I can pair both devices (my X51v and my T-Mobile Dash) via bluetooth Dun, go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340762 and get the bluetooth Dun.cab file download and complete details, works like a charm...............!

Technology said:
With out a doubt, the broadcom bluetooth stack has better stereo sound quality, than the Microsoft bluetooth stack, that's plain to see and hear. Plus I use the broadcom bluetooth stack to make VOIP (SKYPE) phone calls but I cannot do that with the Microsoft bluetooth stack.
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It's only without "your" doubt. Not to mention a serious bug in broadcom A2DP (across all PDA I tested) which system volume adjustment is not working. I found my SE HBH-DS220 a lot worse than the original MS stack on x51v. (But the same handset works very good w/ my Asus P525 which also has use broadcom stack. Maybe some tweak is need...)
Since different people got different need, it's better to leave it and have the user to install broadcom stack as needed

Menneisyys And Mike Spikle Were The First To Come With The Broadcom BT Stack!
jackleung said:
It's only without "your" doubt. Not to mention a serious bug in broadcom A2DP (across all PDA I tested) which system volume adjustment is not working. I found my SE HBH-DS220 a lot worse than the original MS stack on x51v. (But the same handset works very good w/ my Asus P525 which also has use broadcom stack. Maybe some tweak is need...)
Since different people got different need, it's better to leave it and have the user to install broadcom stack as needed
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I have been using the Broadcom bluetooth stack way back before Dell ever thought of a x51v! We only had the X50v back then in those days! (Old School) Menneisyys and his friend Mike Spikle were the first ones to introduce the Broadcomm bluetooth stack and I still have the same download of their first original fix with the bluetoothspeedswitcher.zip and the flowcontrolhack.reg on both of my x51v's. I have never had a skipping problem, the stereo sound is perfect. Menneeisyys uses the Plantronics 590A bluetooth headset and I also use the same headset for that perfect stereo sound quality. Maybe, you are using a different broadcom bluetooth stack, than what we are using, because I have no problem using the volume control (high or low) again it works like a charm and always has.................!

XDA Orbit Bluetooth Stack

What sort of bluetooth does the orbit have, is it MS/widcomm/broadcomm?
Basically i want to use a particular software, and the requirements say this
'MS Bluetooth Stack (WIDCOMM / Broadcom is NOT supported)'
I tried the software on my XDA iis with no luck, but i believe that it has broadcomm.
Thanks in advance.

A software package I run on my Artemis (Labview PDA vs8) requires MS BT only, and it works fine for me, what is it you are trying to run? - Mike

davidwharton said:
[...]requirements say this
'MS Bluetooth Stack (WIDCOMM / Broadcom is NOT supported)'
I tried the software on my XDA iis with no luck, but i believe that it has broadcomm.
Thanks in advance.
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Well if you believe it is a Broadcomm, then the software acts like it should, by not supporting the BT Stack, doesn't it?

well yes, but i want to know wether the software will work on the artemis. the software is btcrawler, you may have trouble finding it, as it is discontinued, but thanks for your replies.

If it need the MS stack then it will work on the Artemis, put it on and try it - Mike

By default has Orbit/Artemis m$hit bt stack. I tried 2 make widcom/broadcom from HTC Universal's (helmi_c) but i never made HFree profile 100% working(not even on Uni) - no chance to answer call with pressing button on BT Headset

alright, now i got it Sorry...
You're right, i did not find the Tool, but i had not very much time searching for it, but i think it will work with the Artemis BT Stack.

okay, thanks a lot for everyones replies.

JETware Hands-Free Extension for Windows Mobile is Open Source

As a short Info, JETware Hands-Free Extension for Windows Mobile is now Open source now. I think its unknown at the moment.
Here is the link to the project page
http://bthfx.codeplex.com/

Great... Now we can add full support for BT headsets with lcd (SE HBH-DS980) and other stuff...

Great news! Lets test, if this version works on my TP2...

Bad news: It seems that the bluetooth stack on TP2 is not compatible with Jetware Mobile. I get always the information:
Unable to load JETware Hands-free Extention. You phone may not support this version of the extention.
Can somebody fix this?

doktor_ppc
Most probably because TP2 doesn't have Microsoft Bluetooth stack...

on my touch diamond 2 there is no problem,
with one rom, i had problems too. but i dont know witch rom, from witch cook.

i installed it on my HD and now every time someone calls me i can hear my ringtone into the BT headset but the phone vibrate but give no sounds.. do you think it could be possible to have the ringtone on phone and headset at the same time?

moneytoo said:
doktor_ppc
Most probably because TP2 doesn't have Microsoft Bluetooth stack...
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What kind of bluetooth stack has the TP2?

doktor_ppc said:
What kind of bluetooth stack has the TP2?
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Broadcom stack

Is there a chance, that a developer will enhance JETware to support the Broadcom stack?

doktor_ppc said:
Is there a chance, that a developer will enhance JETware to support the Broadcom stack?
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Broadcom stack is far superior to MS one. What are the problems are you facing?

There are some applikations, that won't work with the Broadcom stack:
1) Phonealarm: can't activate /deactivate bluetooth
2) JETware: can't activate the extension
3) Tomtom
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doktor_ppc said:
There are some applikations, that won't work with the Broadcom stack:
1) Phonealarm: can't activate /deactivate bluetooth
2) JETware: can't activate the extension
3) Tomtom
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For phoneAlarm, if it calls an exe to toggle bluetooth can be fixed replacing the exe whith other one. Take a look into the commanager
JETWare, it has no sense...
Tomtom, are you sure? In fact TomTom is developed againts broadcom and in some devices you have to delete 2 files in order to get sound because of bluetooth stack

mac_es said:
JETWare, it has no sense...
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Why? Is it so difficult?
I really need a programm like JETware, because I want only submit a special contact group to the carkit system (I have really a lot of contacts).
Is there any other solution available?

doktor_ppc said:
Why? Is it so difficult?
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Broadcom stack implements all the profiles better than MS (the jetware purpose)
I really need a programm like JETware, because I want only submit a special contact group to the carkit system (I have really a lot of contacts).
Is there any other solution available?
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Disable sync of contacts and send them manually... or replace the broadcom stack whith the MS one

mac_es said:
Disable sync of contacts and send them manually... or replace the broadcom stack whith the MS one
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That is not the best solution. I need the contacts, but I need only the contacts of a special katagory and I think that is one of the main features of JETware.

Are you talking about Touch Pro 2 ?... What about Diamond 2 , do it has also Broadcom?
Thanks.

Yes..Touch Pro 2...but I think the TP2 has a Widcomm bluetooth stack. Isn't it?

doktor_ppc said:
Yes..Touch Pro 2...but I think the TP2 has a Widcomm bluetooth stack. Isn't it?
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Widcomm and Broadcom are the same company
Sascha

ah...that is a good information
Btw.: is there a chance that a developer will enhance JETware to support a widcomm bluetooth stack?