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The internal Storage Folder & Contents Routinely disappears on my PDA2K. The only way to restore the folder is by doing a hard reset. After doing so, the contents of the storage folder re-appear as well.
Any ideas??
to my it happened to me several weeks ago the same thing...
And several times it has already spent...
but still nobody has told me anything
That you program you had installed in the Storage...
regards
Okay, this has happened to me 4 times now in 1 weekend. Does anyone know what is going on here?
I hate this reset, sprite, use for a bit, gone again, etc business.
Driving me nuts.
Someone please help.
Well, when the battery gets lower, it shuts down the SDIO slot. Could that be it?
TheLastOne said:
Well, when the battery gets lower, it shuts down the SDIO slot. Could that be it?
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No we are not talking about the SDIO Memory. I am talking about the internal storage. It just goes away until you hard reset.
Well I figured out what was causing it, but I still don't know why. I installed the newest version of WebIS Mail 2.1, and when retrieving mail, it pauses, after that the storage is gone, then it's good old hard reset and sprite to the rescue. Funny thing is nothing is deleted and after a sprite restore it goes back to normal. But the story continues the next time I try and retrieve mail.
So what I did was store the mail folder on my SDIO (yes it is brutaly slow), and now it works fine.
Any thoughts?
Registry
Can you please take a look at your registry?
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Loader]
Does it read : \Release\\Storage\Windows ?
If it does not maybe you would like to try importing the attached key.
Just a note here, that should read,
Does it read : \Release\\Storage\Windows\ ?
and not
Does it read : \Release\\Storage\Windows ?
I believe.
Sounds to me as if you mail program is over writing your storage, trying to store too much info their. This is normal behavior with this type of storage.
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Well, when the battery gets lower, it shuts down the SDIO slot. Could that be it?
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Is there anyway to enable it again??
I'm not thinking when the battery is low, I'm thinking to try and re enable SDIO Slot when Windows cant see the SDIO card.
It's the funniest thing, i often loose the SD card in windows, but somehow when i'm running TomTom 3.7 which is installed on the SD Card, it never fails once it's running even though i'm sometimes not able to access the SD Card with file explorer.
So somehow it's there for TomTom onces it's running, but not for Windows???
Woops. Looks like I can't read. Sorry.
This 'internal storage' disappearing issues also happened on my Xda IIs (HK WWE), now with 1.33 + 1.06, in the past few days as well.... SINCE I installed the following two programs.
1. O2 Plus 1.6 - cracked by someone with his/her signature on the 'About page'
2. Tweak2K2 3.4
I am pretty sure that's the hacked O2 Plus does that. Since I had my splash screens customized on my IIs initially and after installed O2 Plus 1.6, after a soft reset, the 2 splashed will revert to O2 splashes then after some time, 'internal storage' disappeared.
Restored the unit back to the stage that I had version 1.5-hacked, never had a problem since. However, right after uninstalled 1.5 & reinstalled 1.6, same disaster happened again. Tried 3 times in a roll, never missed. Dont think that's the problem with Tweak2K2. Not an expert on manually tweaking the registry, but that's what I found out. I am back to 1.5-hacked & Tweak2K2 3.4. And running without a problem. Did you guys put on the O2 Plus 1.6-hacked or had it on before?
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Anyway, my first post on this incredible forum, really appreciate on everyone sharing thoughts and knowledge here.
AND to whoever wipe out wiki, 'grow up and remember what your mama taught you! Get your hands off the site and be man enough to stand out and post a message WHY you destroy months of works by a few of us here, that most probably you'd NEVER contributed to, and YOU OWE all the nice folks here an apology! DON'T JUST ACTS LIKE A PATHETIC LUNATIC OR A RAT HIDES UNDER THE DRAIN. (excuse to my words to whoever find my words offensive to this jerk, but I feel much better letting it out...)
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I am pretty sure that's the hacked O2 Plus does that. Since I had my splash screens customized on my IIs initially and after installed O2 Plus 1.6, after a soft reset, the 2 splashed will revert to O2 splashes then after some time, 'internal storage' disappeared.
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I'm pretty sure we are both wrong. Because I am running 1.6 right now, and I've been running all day with no problems. I am also running Tweak2K2 3.4. My problem disappeared when I set the WebIS Mail 2.1 mail storage folder to a SDIO card instead of the internal storage.
Someone, please help with this. There is a bigger culprit here, and I don't think Cabrio or I have a proper conclusion.
But I will try uninstalling 1.6, reinstalling Mail 2.1 and try it again. I just hate all this installing and uninstalling bit.
Cheers!
I believe that the problem is due to some applications you might be using.
I am experiencing problems with files disappearing/getting corrupt on mu SD-Card, where I installed all my apps and just found out that at least part of the responsability was a certain program...
Fact is that some tools/apps are not properly tested and have bug's that can mess up the filesystem, plus you should not try to use hacked/cracked programs, as they might contain routines that cause this effects on purpose.
Cheers,
vma
Another approach
I don't think this is a rogue app.
I have had the same problem dating to the first synch I did this morning.
My files won't synch - they seem unable to complete the synch. Active synch won't "stop" in mid process - and when I remove the XDA from the cradle, it won't soft reset.
A hard reset maintains the contents of "My Documents" which is not what it's meant to do.
Having spent several hours on this, I am starting to suspect that the culprit is to do with the time change. The Calender can deal with it, contacts and notes can deal with it.
Files can't. And when it fails, it leaves the XDA unstable.
It's only my working theory. But three iPaq users in the same office had a similar issue and all had to hard reset and restore - which fixed their problem.
Users who don't synch with their local machine (i.e synch with exchange are fine). Users with earlier versions of Pocket PC are fine.
Hope this helps. I was expecting every iPaq user in the world to be up in arms - so maybe I'm wrong. Its where I'm looking now though.
Spoke too soon!
Okay, so I really have to learn to let things ride for a couple of days, before saying "No, mine is fine". Well and the story goes...
I woke up this morning, reached over to my trusty (ya right) XDA, and baam, it was just sitting there. Wouldn't do anything. I sat there, thought for a sec, thought about the last backup I had done, and off to the 2 button holy grail we go (power+reset). Restored, with sprite, uninstalled O2 Plus 1.6, and now I will sit and wait again, till tomorrow morning. I think I might have to buy this sprite backup program, it's saved my a$$ more than 6 times this week alone.
Okay, so back to the drawing board. My Plan is this.
All I need O2 Plus for is the auto msn sign in, everytime GPRS is enabled or a phone call is ended. Is there any way to do this without the O2 plus app?
I will not install O2 Plus again, I will leave everything alone as is and I am going to start uninstalling 1 app at a time.
BTW, PhoneDashboard also screwed up a few days ago, it would just sit there and process like mad. I uninstalled it and everything is fine now.
And though hacked software could have anti-piracy code inside it, but if the app has bugs why would I buy it? Fix the bugs, make it decent enough to be worth the price you are asking then I will gladly buy it. It's the same reason why I wouldn't buy Windows, I only have it cause it came free with my system
ok..got some more info about our problem..this doesnt fix our problem but i just thought you guys should know, after you hard reset theres 4 shortcuts in the startup folder they are for the permanent save contacts, tasts apointments, connections. you get that flash manager error cause the permanent save program cant save it cause that was suppose to be in the Storage Folder..and the Storage Folder wont allow you to add delete or view files in it..i know ther are files in there cause if you look in memory you'll see that its ocuping 40+mb, then after a while or until your xda hangs the Storage Folder disappears
How can we unlock/view this folder? just like the Extended_ROM folder unlocker, i bet when we unlock this folder before it disappears everything will be fixed (YEA RYT!!!). :evil: well at least one problem down..
i forgot to tell you guys after you Hard reset try deleting that 4 permanentsave shortcut..you'll feel your erge to kick the crap out of your IIs a little less. :evil:
yes I always do that. that and the STK.lnk
So I uninstalled O2 Plus 1.6, and been running since yesterday morning with no problems yet. Storage is still there and things are running normally. If this goes on for another day or two, I will be convinced that O2 Plus caused the problem.
what else did you do? mine always disapears after the first soft reset..
It just happened to me for the first time while listening to music with PocketMVP. Storage disappeared and had to do a hard reset. I'm glad I had Sprite and a current backup handy. I also had O2 Plus 1.6 installed just a few hours before this happened. So as you guys suggested, I uninstalled O2 Plus 1.6, removed the 5 permanentsave files and STK.
Before I installed O2 Plus, my PPC was very stable. I only had to reset when my memory was running low since I refuse to buy an SD Card fewer than 1gig. We will see what happens in a few days.
nomadman..could you upload your backup? or maybe could upload a Flush image of your current running OS?(http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=151 ) PLEASE help man..cause that myt fix my storage problem.
I have flashed my Qtek 9000 several times and it seems that when reflashing with the say O2 ROM after it was flashed with the Qtek ROM, the machine retains some information. For example:
Initial ROM Qtek
Flash with O2, all information dissapears
Flash with JasJar, all information dissapears
Flash with O2 Rom again and the call history from the period that it had the previous O2 Rom reappears.
I have also noticed that some files in the Windows directory seem to reappear. Possibly because of these old files, since the last reflashing the machine has started behaving strangely. No phone signal, restoring contacts (using the copy pim.vol procedure) doesn't bring back the contacts and the contacts application doesn't work at all (clicking on contacts has no effect whatsoever).
Is it possible to clean the machine completely before flashing?
I and others have previously reported instances of some odd files and registry settings remaining over a hard reset. One guy even said pictures had stayed put. However, I wouldn't want to rely upon it happening. :roll:
Probably has something to do with persistent memory being just too persistent :wink: .
I don't know if it helps the memory loss, but I now have the habit of leaving the battery out for a couple of hours if I want to totally clear the device, and press the reset both without and with the battery inserted back in. Will probably get myself flamed for that, but hay, ho, whatever....
I and others have previously reported instances of some odd files and registry settings remaining over a hard reset. One guy even said pictures had stayed put. However, I wouldn't want to rely upon it happening. :roll:
Probably has something to do with persistent memory being just too persistent :wink: .
I don't know if it helps the memory loss, but I now have the habit of leaving the battery out for a couple of hours if I want to totally clear the device, and press the reset both without and with the battery inserted back in. Will probably get myself flamed for that, but hay, ho, whatever....
Hmm
So after a soft reset, without Goodlink running, I have at least 27mb available..and with Goodlink, I still have 12-15mb Program Mem free...
Over the course of the day, Mem would drop to between 4-8mb. There is nothing else I can close with HTC X-button.
Exiting out of Goodlink does give me back more mem (12mb or so), but GL is a 'must have' app. Soft reset brings up the same cycle....
anyone else notice any memory issues or decreased Mem throughout the day? Could possibly be on of the apps installed?
I did not have this 'leak' with the un-official Asian/dopod WM6 release, though I like the new att wm6 release and would like to stick with it if I could. Also, with that ROM, I only had Goodlink and a_c slide2Unlock
I am currently running the official ATT WM6 release
3.62.502.3 and these are the installed apps:
(radio ver I downgraded to 1.47 but the radio shouldn't matter)
Goodlink (compressed the 4mb exe into 2mb with UPX4PPC)
PocketCM Keyboard with iPhone (2many skin)
A_C slide to unlock (ver 1.17 because I like this older version)
HTC X-button ver 1.51
MS Live Search
SJ keyboard skin - Touch
battlevel.exe
There have been versions of slide to unlock that had memory leak problems (.99c does not). Try disabling it for a day and see if thats the problem. You can also use oxios to free up allocated RAM throughout the day.
This has been a regularly recurring issue for me since I can remember. I've been using Schap's 4.01 for months now and find that I need to reset every couple of days. Sorry that I don't have a solution for you, but perhaps someone else here can give a recommendation on how to go about freeing up memory that has become consumed by the OS and programs running in it.
The only thing that I can think of might be to try going to 'Settings -> System -> Memory -> Running programs' and close down anything else that may be running in the background. Also, try checking the running processes in FDCSoft Task Manager 2.7 and see if there are any programs that can be closed out there as well. Let me know if you figure anything out, thanks!
Cheers and good luck!
SKTools FreeUP RAM
I use SK Tools FreeUP RAM function to free program memory throughout the day. Even at that, every couple of days I need to soft reset. Typically, I will drop down to about 18MB of Program Memory, then FreeUP RAM and get back to 21MB, then soft reset and get back to 23-24MB.
It seems rather absurd, I know, but one gets used to it.
SKTools costs money and takes up memory (luckily installed on my Storage Card) and you would think this functionality would be in WM6.
Hmm.. So if everyone has this problem of sorts, and with all the various ROMs... the only common ground here is WM6 OS?
I'll try these freeMEM programs and give it a whirl
PS.. (The 'memory leak' was still happening even before I had installed A_C Slide2Unlock, though I will take it off again just to be sure)
WM6 memory leak on Sprint Mogul
I recently purchased a Sprint Mogul and upgraded to the latest ROM that HTC put out on their site on 3/10/08. I have installed many programs but only 3 launch at startup which are iLock2 [screen lock], TouchPal [a thumbable keyboard] and Microsoft's own Voice Command v 1.6. Voice Command is the largest user of memory, approx. 2.3 MB. TouchPal uses about 990 kb and iLock uses less than 35 kb. After about 1 hour I'm down to 11 MB of free memory and I didn't do anything or run a single thing on my device. If I try to launch PIE or Media Player, forget it, there's so little RAM left that it freezes in about 15 minutes of usage. So, if I want to use either of these, I have to do so immediately after a soft reset.
Based on my observations above and testing below, WM6 OS has a memory leak!
To make sure I give WM6 a fair chance, I had to measure the memory immediately after a Hard Rest. So that's exactly what I did 3 times and here are my findings:
Test #1...................FREE RAM IMMEDIATE...........FREE RAM IN 1 HOUR
Hard Reset #1...................24.15 MB...........................19.98 MB
Hard Reset #2...................24.15 MB...........................20.02 MB
Hard Reset #3...................24.14 MB...........................19.96 MB
Bottom line, I'm losing memory for no reason. I have not loaded any of my own programs AND I did not allow the Sprint bloatware to be installed either by doing a soft reset before the 3 second countdown.
Now the memory loss from Test #1 might not seem huge, but after loading my programs and PIM data the difference was even more dramatic, see Test #2. [FYI, I took the "IMMEDIATE" measurements in Test #1 and #2 as soon as the computer would allow me to access the memory console. Not perfect science, but close.]
Test #2......................FREE RAM IMMEDIATE........FREE RAM IN 20 MINS
Soft Reset #1.....................21.37 MB............................13.69 MB
Soft Reset #2.....................21.45 MB............................13.35 MB
Soft Reset #3.....................21.46 MB............................13.44 MB
Finally, to eliminate some rogue process eating all of my memory, I measured the process growth. I was able to do so after each soft reset by using Task Manager v.2.9, which I installed. A few of them grew in size, not sure why, but they did, so below is a sample of their growth. [I actually did this several times and the numbers below are representative of what I found in each of the trials.]
Test #3...................IMMEDIATE.................20 MINS
device.exe..................2682 kb...................2696 kb
cprog.exe...................1749 kb...................2024 kb
gwes.exe....................1559 kb...................1666 kb
filesys.exe..................1538 kb...................1751 kb
While the processes grew, it wasn't significant enough to offset the loss in memory illustrated in Test #2. I also watched the processes associated with my 3 programs that launched at startup and the other OS processes, 15 in all. Some of those grew ever so slightly as well. But in aggregate, the growth for all 15 processes from the time immediately following the reset to 20 minutes later only accounted for 855 kb while I saw my memory drop on average 8 MB.
What could be happening?
I believe the OS is loading something into memory [RAM checker, scanner, cleaner, etc.] that I can't see in the processes or application window and after it's done, it is not releasing the memory, ergo a memory leak.
Thoughts?
AT&T 8525/WM6 Memory
The memory on my AT&T 8525 was not great to start out with. After upgrading with HTC's WM6, it's so bad that Internet Explorer is barely usable. It slows down and freezes after viewing a few sites. I have to close the program and restart.
Ditch the rom you are using now and try this one out. I start with 31 mb's free after a reset. Problem solved.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917
Hi
I have my dash on 6.1
and after a while it starts to get laggy or really slow
any ideas what to do?
Off and On again
You can either restart as the phone tends to build up in the amount of programs being opened, or you can always click the tzones button and it will direct you to the task manager where u can close programs to make the phone less laggy...
Install (and then purchase) Celetask. Best darn task manager around and with its 'free memory' tool I can keep my dash at 18MB free program memory all day
You should also get SKTools, clean out the Notification Que once in a while.. that slows down the Dash as well.
Bupahs said:
Install (and then purchase) Celetask. Best darn task manager around and with its 'free memory' tool I can keep my dash at 18MB free program memory all day
You should also get SKTools, clean out the Notification Que once in a while.. that slows down the Dash as well.
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Celetask does not need to be purchased as it comes with the new 6.1 rom remade by Ricky... version 24...
i have celetask and free memory but still not running that smooth
there have been times where the phone just locks up and ihave to pull the battery out.
any other ideas why?
running winmo6.1
can be due to the fact that my phone is actively sync to exchange server??
hawee said:
i have celetask and free memory but still not running that smooth
there have been times where the phone just locks up and ihave to pull the battery out.
any other ideas why?
running winmo6.1
can be due to the fact that my phone is actively sync to exchange server??
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maybe cause it's actively synced to your gayness level, and it overloads the phone
jk, from my experience, whenever i install cabs, my phone ends up slowing down alot faster than a reflash without any cabs. maybe you could reflash and only install the cabs you need?
if not, then try restarting the phone often, cause its like those old computers we used to use back in the day where a restart was almost necessary every day
also, clearing the mass amounts of text messages (and deleting them from the trash) makes my dash faster
-vincent
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maybe cause it's actively synced to your gayness level, and it overloads the phone
jk, from my experience, whenever i install cabs, my phone ends up slowing down alot faster than a reflash without any cabs. maybe you could reflash and only install the cabs you need?
if not, then try restarting the phone often, cause its like those old computers we used to use back in the day where a restart was almost necessary every day
also, clearing the mass amounts of text messages (and deleting them from the trash) makes my dash faster
-vincent
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Agree just try restarting it once a day as well as clearing up the texts... Also run SKTools in order to clean up and free some bytes... You can find the link to download SKTools below in the programs for smartphone... Just download the lite version okay if you would like... I also have the other version but read the readme file for that version...
Phone is a few days old and pretty much experience the cprog.exe problem every time I get on the net. Does anyone know if upgrading to 6.5 will get rid of that nuisance of should I deal with it before upgrading?
If you flash and install a fresh ROM then you shouldn't have any errors.
If you'd like, you could start by clearing the memory (Hard Reseting) the phone and the message should clear up. But maybe you installed an app that triggered the error so it might come back once you re-install it.
Either way, don't forget to backup your info as it will wipe everything out from contacts to any music and files saved to the main memory, anything in your microSD should fine.
Good luck!
dmkozak said:
Phone is a few days old and pretty much experience the cprog.exe problem every time I get on the net. Does anyone know if upgrading to 6.5 will get rid of that nuisance of should I deal with it before upgrading?
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That issue is believed to be caused by programs/apps dragging their feet when closing. If you want to do something about it now before upgrading, you can simply go into settings and disable error reporting...you won't get the messages any more, and everything should still work ok (based on historical evidence). However, since the cause is software-based, flashing to the new ROM should sidestep the issue since you're completely replacing the entire software package, and not messing with it beforehand shouldn't cause it to stick around and haunt you in 6.5.
Thanks guys. I was hoping a ROM replacement would help. Actually, no apps or programs installed yet. All I've done is sync contacts, calendar, notes, to do, and some Word files. Here's hoping 6.5 will work out fine. Thanks again.