Which Program to use?
Spb backup?
Sprite backup?
Which one restores perfect backups on WM06?
NAdavi
Sunnysoft Backup Manager
http://www.sunnysoft.cz/software.php?idarticle=245
Have you tested it over WM06?
It works fine in Hermes WM6
qyach said:
It works fine in Hermes WM6
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ok
i will try.
Thanks
NAdavi
ok i have a question here.. now that i forsee we're going to be in a ROM flashing frenzy for a while, i don't want to manually reinstall everything everytime. So i used sunnysoft backup, but i didn't back up the registry (obviously some programs and settings aren't backed up) cause i figured some of the patches that are being released in newer ROM versions are registry tweaks..
so if i restore a backed up registry, won't there be a chance that it negates the registry tweak in the newer version?
thanks..
I'm no expert, but to my mind, if you want to back up your device and be able to restore it to the same state, you must include the registry in the backup.
When I try to install it says: Please install ActiveSync !! However I have ActiveSync 4.5 installed, any ideas or a CAB file??
Cheers
aZooZa said:
I'm no expert, but to my mind, if you want to back up your device and be able to restore it to the same state, you must include the registry in the backup.
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yeah i understand that.. what i'm asking is if a full backup (of registry and all) will really work, when i'm restoring it on an updated ROM. Cause that updated ROM would presumably have updated registry values.. then i'd be restoring some old registry values on top of it, etc...
someone have some thoughts on this? or what's worked and what hasn't?
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yeah i understand that.. what i'm asking is if a full backup (of registry and all) will really work, when i'm restoring it on an updated ROM. Cause that updated ROM would presumably have updated registry values.. then i'd be restoring some old registry values on top of it, etc...
someone have some thoughts on this? or what's worked and what hasn't?
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While I think most will agree that the cleanest method is to reinstall all apps after a hard reset/rom upgrade, Sprite does have an option for backing up your system before a rom upgrade...personally I don't do it.
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yeah i understand that.. what i'm asking is if a full backup (of registry and all) will really work, when i'm restoring it on an updated ROM. Cause that updated ROM would presumably have updated registry values.. then i'd be restoring some old registry values on top of it, etc...
someone have some thoughts on this? or what's worked and what hasn't?
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Absolutely!
An example. I performed a full SPB backup after installing everthing onto mUn's wm6 rom the otherday. Then lvsw released his. So i installed his ROM, tested it a bit and activesync etc worked fine. Then I installed the backup (including registry) from mUn's rom and it changed a lot of things. removed some programs, etc. The activesync was not working anymore, just like on mUn's rom. Basically a full backup replaces all the folders including windows folder, so all software loaded into the ROM will be deleted and replaced. For some reason they dont try and merge the folders. Anyway. My point is that it is a very messy way to do things to install a full registry backup on a new updated ROM. It is absolutely fine on the same rom, and my backup proved very time-saving when I moved back to mUn's.
thanks for that.. just what i was wondering..
so, on a totally separate thought (hope it's ok to post here), does anyone know how to extract cab files from installers.. cause some of my programs only have windows .exe files.. it would speed up the re-instatement of my pda if i had everything on cab files, since a full backup isn't gonna do it.
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thanks for that.. just what i was wondering..
so, on a totally separate thought (hope it's ok to post here), does anyone know how to extract cab files from installers.. cause some of my programs only have windows .exe files.. it would speed up the re-instatement of my pda if i had everything on cab files, since a full backup isn't gonna do it.
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On your PC go to: Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync.
So basically I understand that to make a backup of the programs to be used on a newer WM6 rom, I would need to backup also the registry of the current rom, but this by itself can lead to preserving bugs in the current ROM.
Is there a way other than installing cab files, to make this easier?? I'm interested mostly in backing up the SKYSCAPE medical appplications I currently have installed. Some of these apps are 50MB sized, and it takes lots of time to install them. Is there a way to backup these programs that do not affect essential functions (like phone, today screen)??
Is there a way other than installing cab files, to make this easier??
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look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1251367&postcount=1
SPB POCKET BACKUP 1.6
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Should support WM06.
Nadavi
KamaL said:
So basically I understand that to make a backup of the programs to be used on a newer WM6 rom, I would need to backup also the registry of the current rom, but this by itself can lead to preserving bugs in the current ROM.
Is there a way other than installing cab files, to make this easier?? I'm interested mostly in backing up the SKYSCAPE medical appplications I currently have installed. Some of these apps are 50MB sized, and it takes lots of time to install them. Is there a way to backup these programs that do not affect essential functions (like phone, today screen)??
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Kamal- unfortunately you can't restore any Skyscape products after a ROM update, because the Device ID changes each time (unlike Mobipocket/Handheldmed, where the PID stays the same). You can get new reg codes via the Skyscape website, but it is better to do a full reinstall of the Reader application each time. The basic Data folder (which is the large one, as you say) will remain on the SD card whatever the ROM state.
So, you are back to square one, in that you shouldn't apply a Restore after a ROM update, unless you are just reinstalling the same ROM version. Restores only restore the contents of the Storage memory- they don't affect files in ROM (ie a restore prompts a soft reset, not a hard reset)
The Sprite ROM update option is buggy and difficult to execute. You have to take an image of the device before the ROM update, then do the update, then run another program which compares the contents of the current ROM and the previous Backup, then supposedly only updates the changed files, ignoring the new ones. But reports I've seen suggest this is flakey at best, and that the contents of messaging folders gets corrupted.
If you are taking the trouble to do a ROM update, presumably to improve performance, it is better to do a full reinstall of your apps using cab files, or ActiveSync Add/Remove (except Skyscape products )
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Kamal- unfortunately you can't restore any Skyscape products after a ROM update, because the Device ID changes each time (unlike Mobipocket/Handheldmed, where the PID stays the same). You can get new reg codes via the Skyscape website, but it is better to do a full reinstall of the Reader application each time. The basic Data folder (which is the large one, as you say) will remain on the SD card whatever the ROM state.
So, you are back to square one, in that you shouldn't apply a Restore after a ROM update, unless you are just reinstalling the same ROM version. Restores only restore the contents of the Storage memory- they don't affect files in ROM (ie a restore prompts a soft reset, not a hard reset)
The Sprite ROM update option is buggy and difficult to execute. You have to take an image of the device before the ROM update, then do the update, then run another program which compares the contents of the current ROM and the previous Backup, then supposedly only updates the changed files, ignoring the new ones. But reports I've seen suggest this is flakey at best, and that the contents of messaging folders gets corrupted.
If you are taking the trouble to do a ROM update, presumably to improve performance, it is better to do a full reinstall of your apps using cab files, or ActiveSync Add/Remove (except Skyscape products )
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Thanks for the reply I didn't understand something about the Data folder on the storage card. Suppose I have 3-4 skyscape products installed on the stroage card, can I keep those folders and install only the viewer the next time I make a rom upgrade??
I'm not sure!
I tend to just run My Skyscape after each ROM upgrade- takes a couple of minutes to reinstall but I find its worth it. As the main data remains on the card, it might be worth just trying ActiveSync Add/Remove to reinstall the reader apps, though IIRC this didn't work on WM2003 as the newly installed reader wouldn't find the Data
But, Skyscape do seem to have imprpved their installers recently (despite the awful SmartUpdate app!)
I tried sprite backup and it crashed on faman fr rom... anyone use it ?
Hey,
I want to mess around and most likely break things but i want to know i can recover from it ^_^
Soft reset = restart device yes?
Hard reset = ?? dose it have a backup rom in there or something what exactly dose this do
Can i backup and later restore the entire rom? as far as i can see i need to pay for something like this which seems to me like a very very basic feature...
Looking foward to putting my mind at rest so i can start breaking things =D
Cheers
Hello! Hard reset means that you reset your device to the manufacturer's default. Well, that means: after a hard reset:
- When you turn your device ON, it acts exactly as the first time you did it
- You won't loose the ROM
- You will loose everything you did after the first use. That means, for example: contacts, installed applications, pictures, sms, emails, installed applications, phone configuration, ect...
- What won't be deleted: contacts on SIM card, everything on Memory Card. I recommand you to save on your mem card: contacts, pictures, CAB files (so it's easy to re-install apps after hard reset), media files (music and video, but usually you won't put them on the device memory, so no problem there)
- Well, basically, after a hard reset, it's like you turn on your phone for the first time (except that your memory card won't be formated)
You can backup your contacts-email-contactspictures-sms using PIM backup. Just save the backup file in the memory card or on your PC. Then restore it after hard reseting your device. More informations here: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pim-backup-v2-8.html
I hope that helps you!
Thx for the reply ^_^
So if i go into file explorer and delete everything, a hard reset will fix that?
Just want to know if its just resetting settings and del personal data/programs, or if its reloading all the files into the rom from.. somewhere else.
Trying to get an idea of what i cant recover from, or if i download something suspect, can it do any lasting damage
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So if i go into file explorer and delete everything, a hard reset will fix that?
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Well... no and yes.
No, you won't be able to delete everyting using File Explorer , and Yes a hard reset will clean up all your mess and "reinstall" Windows Mobile from scratch afterwards. It's more or less like formatting your PC's hard drive and then use the recovery partition or CD/DVD to rebuild everything up to the original state.
I would advise you to remove your memory card before hard reseting... just in case. Better safe than sorry.
MMMk i think i get how it works then ^_^
There is 1 rom and it just restricts access to origonal files and restores a copy of origonal settings? So its unlikely my curiosity will get the better of me by editing or deleting things, time for some fun =D
Thx for the replys!
"Sprite Backup" will not restore ROM (nor will any other backup software) - but Sprite will backup/restore *every* other setting, let you browse backup files, and makes self-restoring backups.
Hi,
I'm using CyanogenMod 9.0.0-RC2 marvel/marvelc ALPHA7 ROM. Lately, i've tryied to force my Wildfire S to use ext partition. To do this, i've been following this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23834586&postcount=5. Sadly, it didn't word in the first palce with s2e app from attachment in mentioned thread, so i've repartitioned sdcard using build-in ROM Manager. After reboot it's started to work. ROM Manager allow create only 512MB ext partition, so I've decided to repartition card again, using CWM into 1024MB size. I forgot about fact, that i've moved Application Data to sd-ext partition. In result, applicaion data folder was removed. I've lost phone configuration, sms and contacts. What is most irritating, search and desktop bottom stoped to work.
Now i'm using S2E from the market and everything seems to work great insted of both, search (the most right) and history (most left) button. Any ideas how to repair that problem? I can't find any options relatated to that buttons, so maybe i've lost some configuration files becouse of reformating my sdcard?
Important data such as config files for the buttons will never be stored on the sdcard so in this case, you should perform a factory reset and reflash
Sent from my bowl of jelly!
vbhtt said:
Important data such as config files for the buttons will never be stored on the sdcard so in this case, you should perform a factory reset and reflash
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Thanky you for replay.
What i'm guessing is that i've incidentally removed application which is responsible for preveiw of open application, signed into most left button and application for search button. My question is, where can I find them and what is name of those applications?
I want to avoid reflashing ROM again, becouse of tired reconfiguration and app instalation over and over again.
There is no application that controls the buttons. You may reflash without wiping data. You wil not have to reinstall your apps
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Hey everyone, I am having a little problem... I recently did a factory reset and when the phone booted back up all the files photos and folders that were there before the reset are still there. I have tried to do it from cwm with the code from the phone and from backup and reset in every case all the folders and photos and music remain. I have cwm version 6.0.1.2 installed have rooted but have stock Rom on the phone, I have also noticed when I go in to my filenfolder and start browsing inside the internal sd card it seems laggy. Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Hey everyone, I am having a little problem... I recently did a factory reset and when the phone booted back up all the files photos and folders that were there before the reset are still there. I have tried to do it from cwm with the code from the phone and from backup and reset in every case all the folders and photos and music remain. I have cwm version 6.0.1.2 installed have rooted but have stock Rom on the phone, I have also noticed when I go in to my filenfolder and start browsing inside the internal sd card it seems laggy. Any help would be greatly appreciated
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I guess if you have CWM theb factory reset doesn't delete your files and folders. If you want to delete files and folders as well, then you can simply connect your phone to laptop and delete the files and folders from there. The files will be recreated after the restart. Also, you can try the format option from cwm. I haven't done myself, therefore please do a search to see if it'll help your needs or not.
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If you want to delete your files and folders, go into storage and wipe/reformat there. In cwm, i think it's under mounts and storage.
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If you want to delete your files and folders, go into storage and wipe/reformat there. In cwm, i think it's under mounts and storage.
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Thanks I will have to try that, I just wondering if I do that is there any chance I will delete the original rom on the on board memory?
It will delete the zip file for the ROM, but won't change the ROM you are currently running.
Hi I think I may have triggered accidentally by long pressing the Power & Volume buttons, a Recovery and Wipe of Apps and Personal Files.
On starting the OP5T, it is like a Factory Reset with all accounts, apps, files deleted.
Is it possible to recover the files from the Memory? I have already tried Dr Fone but this only sees the files I can see using Windows Explorer. I need to go deeper in the hope that the files are still in the memory of the device.
There are no Backups to recover.
Urgently need help because I cannot use the phone, hoping I can recover files before reinstalling all the apps and potentially over-writing the memory of the files I want to recover.
Thanks in advance!!
Guess no reply means no :crying: