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Im running the original rom version, 1.31.00 WWE, Radio Ver. 1.06.00, Protocol Ver. 1337.38, ExtROM Ver. 1.31.139 WWE on my XDA11s. I'm not bothered much about Blackberry (cos i dont really know much about it), so if everythings running ok on my pda is it really worth doing the upgrade? Any comments appreciated, thanx.
If it ain't broke - why fix it :wink:
I find it really amazing that out of the 83 views to my topic that there has been one reply, and that wasn't really much help to my enquiery, but can i thank you for taking the time to reply anyway. So i take it that none of the 83 viewers have bothered updating with he official software then??!!
Well, I did it and am kind of regretting it a bit now.
GPRS via Mobile Web seems a bit odd - managed to get my POP3 mail setup OK, but i'll be damned if I can get IE to work - always comes up with Page not Found dialogue box... never used to do this before.
Anyone got any ideas?
SW seems a bit faster, but until I can sort out this IE issue, I am not going to get too excited ... need my IE on the move!
trapdoor said:
Well, I did it and am kind of regretting it a bit now.
GPRS via Mobile Web seems a bit odd - managed to get my POP3 mail setup OK, but i'll be damned if I can get IE to work - always comes up with Page not Found dialogue box... never used to do this before.
Anyone got any ideas?
SW seems a bit faster, but until I can sort out this IE issue, I am not going to get too excited ... need my IE on the move!
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you will ahve better luck upgrading to wm5.0, i find it loads faster and patched correctly, runs as smooth as a babies bottom. 8)
joey jojo said:
you will ahve better luck upgrading to wm5.0, i find it loads faster and patched correctly, runs as smooth as a babies bottom. 8)
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My WM5 is slow even though I applied all the patches , I wish it was smooth like a nice babies bottom lol. WM5 also drains my battery faster, I have downgraded and upgraded 4 times so far and I am too lazy to go back to 1.40.00WM2003SE ROM, give me some advice!
upload the blackberry installation CAB
can anyone upload the blackberry cab that comes with this ext ROM here?
that all I need from this upgrade...
Cheers
I have been so fed up with my XDA11s running slowly since I bought it. I have done all the upgrades, even WM2005 and still it was crap so I have ordered an Exec to see if that is any better. Anyway, out of bordom, I decided to downgrade the 11s back to 2003. did this and still slow, then I noticed the new upgrade so I thought what the hell and installed it.
I have never seen my 11s run so fast! even when I installed all my usual apps it flies. strangely the BT seems to be working fine as well (I gave up on that a long time ago). I have even blown the dust off my BT headset and have started using it again. Makes me think I should'nt have bothered ordering the Exec!
I have also noticed a new Blackberry icon in setting > System. dont use it myself, but I notice a lot of people moaning for it.
Can someone please share their experience.
I am interrested to know how the devices perform in the Corporate install of the O2 and the JasJar.
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
The corporate with the code 0506?
Is the pocket MSN there on that configuration?
Which one is the most generic config?
a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
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a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
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Yes,you can flash any ROM to your Jasjar , you will lose your setting email..etc,others same as new.
I have just loaded my MDA PRO with the O2 ROM, and tryed all the possible installs (basic, Corporate with code 0506 and personal)
Only the Corporate one is really customisation free. I have myself bypassed the extended_ROM so now I have run only one cab the Default_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB which is responcible for the video call. Strangely enough I have the same scin in the dialer as I had in the JasJar ROM...
Also as mentioned by... that by O2 ROM the splash screen is not installed it is not true, as right after the upgrade to the O2 ROM and the reset you see the O2 splash screen, which is untill now the nicest looking splash screen.
What I can say after 2 hours of using the O2 ROM is the following:
1. The amount of free program memory after reset is the same as by JasJar ROM.
2. The device is at least twice as fast as with the JasJar ROM.
Conclusion for now I am much happier with the O2 ROM. Much more stable and responsive.
As I am using Jasjar and after your comments I am considering moving to o2 could you tell me how you configured your Jasjar? Specifically, I am using my jasjar without the extended rom except for the video dialler and the bluetooth patch. It is generally running well except for the need to hard reset once in a while. When comparing with the O2 were you also using Jasjar without extenstion?
Thanks, apap
Having used both ROMs, I think they're essentially the same ROM with a few minor branding cosmetic mods... The two ROMs are only dated 2 wks apart and doubt there are any major differences.
To be honest, I couldn't find any performance gain or loose using either one of them and the O2 ROM seem to be slightly smaller in size (maybe due to the additional Imate games/themes etc?) So after going Imate ROM with O2 extended ROM, I went back to all O2 ROM..
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
OK boys and girls...
I have tryed the O2 ROM the whole day yesterday and last night late reverted to JasJar ROM. Reason: maybe I did something wrong but in corporate install of the O2 ROM with the code 0506 but I had no pdf reader which is unfortunately a crucial software for me. I have tried to install it from the cabs of the O2 ROM and from JasJar ROM but it would not work. Of course the solution might be to get a cracked version. But that fact pissed me off so much that I have loudly cursed O2 and reverted to JasJar.
Observations: I have noticed that O2 ROM has more program memory when you reset the device but once you use the thing the amount of program ROM is the same as in JasJar. So the fact that just after the soft reset there is more ROM is actually not interresting. I also found that in the O2 ROM there is a problem with the start menu opening up first time after a soft reset (If you soft reset the device and then for the first time click on start it takes 10-13 seconds to open it up) and this issue was the biggest issue for me to change to O2 ROM. Pocket MSN seemed to work faster and is more responsive on the O2 and maybe overal performance is a little notch better then JasJar. The Bootup Splash screen on the O2 is much nicer then on JasJar it is really sharp and cool
Conclusions: If you like experimenting try out the O2 ROM because you get to see also (if you try out the Personal install) how badly an operator can F*** up the device, it is beyond my understanding but it is hideous their Launch software, the screen looks like a battle field and I get dizzy looking at it, the task manager which it installs is such a crap only due to a fact that once you close all the progs with the task manager the task manager is still running so to close it too you have to go to settings ->system->memory and close it from there. I can understand that the task manager which you can use from your today screen has to be running in order to work but this task manager you have to start by going to programs and starting it manually, It is comepletely beyond me what is the purpose of such a task manger, but hey maybe I am STUPID ???
The battery icon moved next to the start I can understand the handyness of this, but the O2 icon which does not do anything is also comepletely beyond my understanding. Plus when changing the screen orientation the battery and the O2 icons suddenly get a darker background and it looks like it hangs, but it only looks like it the device does not hang, but it is still an ugly sight to see...
If you opt for the Corporate install with the 0506 code I think you are fine the machine performs as it should, and is very stable, no O2 annoyances and no O2 **** to be seen apart from a couple of icons in the Programs. One of them is the O2 install which I beleive supposed to allow you to change your install type, without making a hard reset, but of course it only works in one direction, meaning that if you have a corporate install with the code 0506 and you want to change to standard or to personal it will work but if you are running the standard and want to go back to corporate or if you are runnning the Personal (full featuer O2) and want to change to standard it will not work. After playing around with that I have found that my simmanager and enroller icons dissapeared, but I was able to get it back by running one of the cabs. it was different with the pdf reader, since I need one I have decided to run that O2 install type thingy and chose first standard install which did not bring the pdf back, and then I have chosen the personal install which would mean that I should have now everything on it , the pdf icon was there but alais the pdf did not work I kept on getting an error.
One more thing when you install the CORP version the dialer skin is the same as by the JasJar so I beleive that that is the generic skin, since the O2 Dialer skin is very vague the buttons are beautiful, but have to much light in them so it is difficult to see the letters
SO I am back to JasJar ROM and I beleive will stick to it for a while.
The progs I run :
TT5.1
Resco Explorer
Skype 1.2 beta
Backgammon
Total commander
All installed on the storage card
I hope this not too boring and helps folks here.
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I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
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I have done it and reverted back to the JasJasr rom no problems and I have an MDA PRO, so I am even further way from home.
Follow this thread to learn what are the procedures for upgrading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29354&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Good luck
The Exec ROM (basic and Corporate) do not suffer from a buggy Messaging app on the JJ ROM. The JJ ROM can cause the JJ to freeze on SMS notification and can crash when receiving emails over UMTS.
You mean the imate email app ?? or the bult in functionality. Because I do not have those symptoms. and I have received only today already about 12 sms messages.
About receiving the e-mail overUMTS: I use exchange active sync over UMTS and works like a charm without any problems...Maybe it freezes when using pop mail or imap? What is your configuration ?
And once again by the "buggy messaging app" you mean the imate e-mail??
Can someone confirm the presence of MSN and PDF inthe O2 Corporate mode ????
Thanx
Jasjar or O2?
I have also been wondering whether to try O2. Overall, after many trials I am quite satisfied with Jasjar. I have not installed extended rom except for bluetooth patch and smardialer cabs. I am running: pocketinformant, magicbutton, repligo, netfront 3.3, resco explorer, pocket mechanic, microsoft voice command. I have done a number of recommended register tweaks. I have also updated the radio to 1.04.
Speed is good.
Remaining problems: Once in a while I need to soft reset to overcome freezes. My main problem now is that I cannot install new programs or updates, nor can I remove programs.
It would be useful to find out how others are dealing with these problems and whether thos running O2 corporate are confronting similar problems.
Should I switch to O2 corporate? There seem to be conflicting views on the matter.
thanks, apap
Churchill:
You wrote a few things about Extended ROMs, Code 0506 (for o2 Corp. mode?), and about bypassing the extended ROMs.
Also there was a mention of bluetooth and radio Cabs...
I would be obliged if you could elaborate and explain them to me.
I have the o2 Exec and would like to experiemnt with the corp. mode since I find that in personal mode it freezes up all too often (not enough memory I guess...) but I wouldn't like to loose essential functionality by changing my ROM.
Thanks in advance
Well I am right now updating my MDA PRo from JasJar Rom to O2 ROM, since I still think the O2 ROM was a notch faster in the corporate mode.
I would not advice you to bypass the extended rom install as I found that some things do not work properly like the sim manager and pdf.
You are fine with the Corporate mode since it is the cleanest of all options including the JasJar.
Also Pocket MSN is more responsive in the O2 corporate mode, then with JasJar ROM.
So just go ahead and do a hard reset and choose corporate mode with the code 0506.
By the Way as I have already mentioned earlier the Boot splash screen of O2 is the best till now. Funny is that I was called by T-Mobile representative a couple of days ago and asked what I think about the MDA PRO. I have told him that MDA PRO with t-mobile customization is history by me and I am running JasJar. He warned me that if something happens to my device they can not help me now since there is no t-mobile rom available to flash it with (I do not understand that where is the release rom? did they loose it or something?) but I am still eligible for my 2 year warranty. He also asked why I have switched to JasJar, I have told him that the t-mobile customisation is crap and that the device was slow and unstable. He confirmed that and also saysd that this is exactly the reason why he is contacting me, since they aparently received a threat from one of the major consumer organisations in the netherlands. So he sayd that they are verifying the isue with the users and it does not look good since everybody complains. So hopefully t-mobile will release new rom soon...
Funny is that I have mentioned to him that I hate the hideous colors and boot splash screen of t-mobile rom, his answere was that the boot splash screen they are extremely proud of since it took a long time to come up with the design.... DUDE how long can it take to come up with something so hideous?
Anyhow....
P.S. I let you guys know how is my MDA PRo with O2 ROM
Adobe acrobat reader is available freely from the adobe site, in the same way as their readers always are:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforppc.html
HTH
The O2 Exec has OS 1.13.48, which has a memory leak bug. Commontime mNotes synchronization cannot free the memory after use, so a 3rd consecutive sync empties out all remaining RAM. This was resolved in OS version 1.13.53, which is on the Jasjar.
Yes, the Exec ROM seems a tad faster, but at least for me the memory leak is decisive for the Jasjar ROM.
Jasjar or O2?
Wiz, have you reverted to Jasjar? Also, I do not quite understand the memory leak problem. Does this mean that there is a danger of losing note information? Finally, any suggestions on how to resolve the inability to add new programs? Does this problem occur only with Jasjar?
Thanks, apap
Hi all
I just got myself sent a Hermes the other day and I was looking around here, my favourite XDA resource, for nifty things I could do with it. One thing that seems to be all the rage is upgrading to WM6. Now, I'm all in favour of upgrading and the amount of information and material here is, well, staggering. Overwhelming even. But, for all I read, I miss one critical thing: why do we upgrade to WM6? What does it give us that WM5 doesn't?
All I see, at the moment, is a swankier interface and a faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed? I guess I'm looking for an excuse to do this
Lastly, as I mentioned, there's almost too much information about all this. i can follow the guides and tools for installation but one thing will vex me if I was to upgrade - and that's which ROM to use. Now I'm certain every one of you has a favourite and so I'm not looking for a definitive recommendation, but what the hot ones that I should look into at the moment? As I see it, the "XDA Live" and "Black" see pretty popular..
Cheers!
Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.
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Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.
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Pretty much says it all. I never soft reset anymore. More memory, faster than WM5, better tweaks, and has some things WM5 didn't cooked in to the ROM. As for the risk of bricking, that's an extremely low risk, very minimal actually, if you follow the guide and wiki.
and html email is not to be sneezed at.
Because we can!
Mobile Office 2k7 can read o2k7 native formats. You will never see this on WM5 unless some imgfs God with a lot of time on his/her hands ports it there....
Native SD card encryption is Huge. The A2DP stack is a thing of wonder too....
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exactly!!!!!!!!
My softbank x01ht came with WM5 and the only upgrade I did was the radio upgrade to 1.40.
May be it is my luck, but my x01ht seems really stable in its original ROM version (WM5 aku 2), I have never hard reset and the machine seems really stable. So my need to upgrade to WM6 to avoid system hang is not really existing.
Also, I use a lot of BUILT-IN functions such as Push Email, Wifi and Chinese support (my x01ht was flashed with a Hong Kong version 838 pro ROM before sold to me). If ANY one of such functions is WORSE in WM6 than in WM5, than WM6 is a no no for me. I can't stand any frequent freeze of the x01ht because I now depend solely on it for my daily phone/PIM use. If I don't have it working 100% normal, then I will lose many important phone calls.
I see WM6 really as an evolution of WM5. In WM6, MS has fixed many bugs that were in WM5, for example:
- Crappy A2DP
- WiFi now supports WPA
- HTML email
- Faster and more stable
- I'm sure MS has updated little things here and there to make WM6 more telco-standards (GSM, etc.) compliant
Well, are you still using Windows 95 on your PC?
My reasons for upgrading have been for (in order of importance) the speed, bug fixes, better memory management, the X button actually closing the app not just minimising it, Office updates, better compatibility and usability in the new Internet Explorer, etc.
When I bought my TyTN I was shocked by how slowly it responded to user input compared to previous Pocket PCs I'd owned.
After the developments that started occurring here a few months ago, there really was no turning back. I upgraded and now the OS is quick and very responsive. WM6 has been a godsend. The phone application also doesn't take 3-4 seconds to load when I press the call button to answer a call like it used to!
WM6 also has a much more polished look to it I think.
hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
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I did it simply because WM5 was a little unstable and I love experimenting / playing with stuff like this.
A side benefit which I didn't know I would get is the LVSW version that I installed allows WPA2 & WPA2-PSK authentication on the Wi-Fi. That meant I could run my Hermes at the same security as my network and didn't have to modify my wireless router and other PCs.
There's probably still a few other good reasons that haven't been mentioned in this thread yet.
Cheers, Oggy.
Bug fixing, more speed,...
With WM5 I had issues like the phone applicatoin reacted too slowy on an incomming call. so i missed the call. Or sometimes it even didn't ring.
WM6 works in that point.
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hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
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Did you install TomTom 6.03??? As of that version I never had freezes anymore...
I to have tomtom lockup and sloooooowwwww to get map directions. Please I miss my fast tomtom 6. I am using 6.03. I wonder if i did something wrong. I never had this problem with wm5.
What about support?
One benefit of wm6 is that the hackers, tweakers, rom cookers, and random slackers such as myself keep this hermes wm6 forum active (albeit sometimes unforgiving to newcomers). If you have a question about wm6 on a hermes, it is probably already answered here. Can as much be said for the wm5 forums?
Just works
Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.
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... faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed?
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I don't think anyone with half a brain has bricked their phone doing an OS only upgrade (especially if they read the wiki etc etc)... and you answered your own question... who doesnt want a faster device?
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Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.
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I feel the same way as LazPL in that I was about to stop using the phone.
What I hated most about WM5 was a lack of real integration between the phone and contacts funtions, eg.:
. If you chose a call from the recent call list you could not access the contact directly (eg. if you just tried calling someone on their fixed line and wanted to try their mobile, you could not just click on the recent call you just made and select a different type of number, you had to select the name again from the list). In WM6 you can do this
. If you saved an unknown number from your recent call list it would automatically create a new contact, instead of giving you the option to save it in an existing contact (and choosing what type of number it was) or creating a new contact. In WM6 you can.
For me these 2 were just basic everyday usability features that I can find in the cheapest phones, and totally unacceptable to be missing in a €600 device. On the basis of these 2 alone, upgrading to WM6 was worth it.
In addition, my original Orange ROM had some bugs that were just pathetic (although these could have been cured with a newer ROM, or perhaps were due to the original radio ROM - which I also upgraded - and not the OS):
. Calls to busy numbers started blaring the busy tone through the loudspeaker (very loud)
. Trying to answer a call waiting would freeze the phone and require a soft reset
Hope that helps.
Pastings WIFI keys!!!
I've not been able to paste a wifi key in my WM05 ROM somone told me it was security...
rubish i think M$ to implement the copy/paste code.
Modem -> Bluetooth PAN is HUGELY more stable, my connection used to drop all the time in modem mode, i can now sit for 2 hours on my laptop at coffee shops and surf the web, whithout paying silly 1 day WIFI pass prices!
There's a new Zest firmware available for download from http://www.my-xda.com/. The filename is Xda_Zest Firmware Update_V7.7.0S.WWE20.00_M4.6.5.P7_V2.1.4 GBR20, which seems to be updates to most of the roms inside the zest. It's installing at the moment, and the upgrade interface on the phone is displaying "GalaxyMini5 Eboot (3.33.0). Since this appears to be a codename for the P565, I guess this is more evidence that the XDA Zest is simply an underclocked P565 and more evidence that P565 firmware may well work on it.
Warning, this firmware does not appear to contain the O2 menu software, or the free GPS software that comes with the phone (although maybe the latter can be re-installed from the SD card). Shame - I rather liked the O2 menu interface.
what improvements does it have? Is it actually worth upgrading?
Thanks.
The only things I can see that I don't remember seeing before are a couple of new or updated control panel entries. Video calling is probably the really important one.
You seem to lose the RSS reader, the O2 auto settings, the O2 menu and the GPS s/w (although the latter was only a demo). I have no idea if using the SD card that came with the Zest will restore these, as I don't have it. (If the software is all on there somewhere, and someone could bung me a copy, I'd be really grateful.)
It does make me wonder how the P565 firmware compares. I understand it has a nice touch interface on it.
It seems odd that the new firmware would remove all the o2 specific bits. Great if you want to use it on another network I suppose, but I quite like the mobile shell or o2 menu.
The satnav software isn't on the sd card - only the maps.
The instructions say:
Please note that if you already have CoPilot satellite navigation software on your Xda, refer to the Xda Zest user manual before upgrading your device software.
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I couldn't see anything of significance in the user manual.
Interesting. I actually have Tomtom for GPS on a different SD card, which is related to the reason I don't have the original SD card. Tomtom autoinstalls from the SD card, so I thought it might be that the O2 software installed itself from the SD card provided by O2. I guess that if it's only maps on the SD card then that's not the case, and the new firmware does strip out all the O2 extras, which seems like a peculiar decision to say the least.
Still, it did get me to try the new SPB mobile shell 3, which is what the O2 menu is based on, but nicer. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth the $35 for just a flashy finger driven interface. The weird thing is, it actually might be.
I'm actually going to upgrade my firmware to new one which is currently available in O2 site. What I want to know is if upgrade mine to the latest what would be the changes I may seen... Is it worth upgrading by loosing all the software?
So far I've seen nothing to write home about. The only reason might be if you can't already make video calls and want to do so. (I never make them, so I have no idea whether or not they're supported in the original firmware.)
I just upgraded mine to new firm ware. It worked fine for me. I didn't lose any O2 extras inc O2 menu. It was Oki but haven't tried yet to make video calls.. I will install iGO8 and will uninstall the co-pilot.
SPB Mobile shell 3.0 Rocks working smoothly with my Omnia and Xda Zest
I've just updated, and I didn't lose any O2 extras either (including Copilot). I backed up the Program Files\Copilot folder on the device to my PC before updating, and copied it back over after the update and voila, I've still got my fully activated version of Copilot. It did still prompt for allowing it to connect to the net during the 14-day trial the first time I ran it, but the license screen confirms it's the full version.
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I have a working theory that the autorun on my Tomtom SD card might have run in preference to some autorun that might otherwise have run the first time the OS booted. I could test this by re-installing the firmware, but it's kind of a pain to have to put all the data on again.
Having played around some more and browsed the Extended ROM on my device, this does appear to be what happened, as all the CAB files are present. Fortunately this is a bonus for me, since I'm not on O2, and most of these files are useless to me, and I can therefore just pick and choose the apps I'd like to install.
This might be useful to other Zest users - the hack to make the Extended ROM visible:
Use your favourite Registry Editor to make HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ONDisk2\FATFS\MountHidden set to 0 (default is 1)
You can then browse to \ASUS_ROM\ in Total Commander to view your Extended ROM partition. The ROM does not appear to be write protected, so you can now put all the packages *you* want re-installed on a hard reset in there. Neat.
I contacted O2 support about this issue, and they replied saying that:
On occasions the O2 menu can drop off after a ROM upgrade, but this would usually be resolve by either hard resetting or running the upgrade again. The o2 menu is still installed on the new ROM.
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I have now done this upgrade and have retained the 02 menu. The radio reception seems a bit better as I now get HSDPA at home, which I didn't previously, so the radio upgrade seems to be worth it.
ringer
ive got the zest and am happy with it so far apart from the last 2 days i cannot hear it when i get a call everything else works ie.system sounds,core player etc but the actual phone wont ring it just vibrates ive reset it a million times and checked system settings etc but nothing so if anyone has any ideas i would be very grateful, also how do you know if you are getting hdspa or not is there a setting for it or something, cheers guys.
The connectivity icon at the top right of the screen shows what communication protocol is being used by showing a symbol (usually just a single letter) in a solid square. The letters I have seen so far are:
G - GPRS (2G)
E - EDGE
3G - 3G (this is the odd one out with the two letters squashed together)
H - HSDPA
It's worth mentioning that on my train ride home I see all four protocols at different points, and the hand-off between them is very smooth.
thanks for quick reply i will keep an eye on it, still no joy with my ringer though its very strange. never had a problem like it on my orbit. i will keep investigating ,also do you know if anyone will be coming up with a rom for zest as i miss manila 2d although mobile shell v3 is good.
Have you checked:
Start->Settings->Sounds & Notifications
On the Notifications tab you can select the "Ring type", one possible choice of which is "Vibrate", which will make the phone only vibrate on incoming calls. Just guessing.
yes ive tried all that it might be affected by software ive installed recently i will try unistalling them one by one and see if that helps, failing that il do a hard reset i guess, anyone know how to hard reset the zest? thanks for your help.
There is a contortional key sequence for this, but you can also reset it by going to:
Start->Settings->System Tab->Default Settings
cheers managed to sort it , i installed mini lyrics software and ticked all in associating files which for some reason stopped the phone from ringing
thanks for your help.
Failure of firmware upgrade
Ive just had a power failure whilst upgrading the firmware on my new xda Zest and all it it shows when turning on is "OS Update failed! Please update again". Is there anything i can about this or will it need to be returned to O2. Any suggestions. thanx
Hi there
Firstly i am a very heavy user of my PDA's but not very technical & apologies for long post, but cant find the answers anywhere else on this site.
Have been using HTC SIM free handsets for approx 4.5 Years now, and been using a HTC TyTN II for the last year, updated the ROM from WM6.0 to WM 6.1 then everything started going wrong so decided to spend the £500 to jump to the HTC Touch Pro 2 but am very frustrated and almost at the point of going back to the TyTN II or going to another brand of phone as none of the software that i had on my TyTN II works with the Touch Pro 2 WM 6.1, as follows:
1. TomTom Navigator 6 does not work but works on TyTN II WM 6.1?
2. TomTom Navigator 7 (Tried it & HTC Confirmed it will not work either)
3. MS Voice Command or any other voice command software does not work
4. Many other MUST HAVE programs i had on TyTN II WM6.1 also will not work now
5. Company supplied software wont work either,
6. It also wont work with my Landrover Freelander 2 PTI kit, so am forced to go back to a BT Headset
Surely PDA software OS 6.1 cant be that different from version 6.0 in my experience with the TyTN II as 6.1 just had small enhancements to 6.0?
I at least need some navigation & voice command software to work on the Touch Pro 2 as it just can not be operated safely whilst moving otherwise, and there is no point in having it in the first place if i can't get these two software types to work, which is a big problem for me.
Does anyone know what software does work, although i think it is the HTC TouchFlo Skin that is the problem with other programs i have tried this weekend, as it does not allow third part software to be displayed on the home screen easily, even google apps toolbar has probs, does this sound feasible?
Can anyone help me out with this or did i buy the wrong phone maybe a Touch Pro would have been better as closer to my TyTN II layout and functions?
Thanks in advance
Alex
alexsimmons said:
Hi there
Firstly i am a very heavy user of my PDA's but not very technical & apologies for long post, but cant find the answers anywhere else on this site.
Have been using HTC SIM free handsets for approx 4.5 Years now, and been using a HTC TyTN II for the last year, updated the ROM from WM6.0 to WM 6.1 then everything started going wrong so decided to spend the £500 to jump to the HTC Touch Pro 2 but am very frustrated and almost at the point of going back to the TyTN II or going to another brand of phone as none of the software that i had on my TyTN II works with the Touch Pro 2 WM 6.1, as follows:
1. TomTom Navigator 6 does not work but works on TyTN II WM 6.1?
2. TomTom Navigator 7 (Tried it & HTC Confirmed it will not work either)
3. MS Voice Command or any other voice command software does not work
4. Many other MUST HAVE programs i had on TyTN II WM6.1 also will not work now
5. Company supplied software wont work either,
6. It also wont work with my Landrover Freelander 2 PTI kit, so am forced to go back to a BT Headset
Surely PDA software OS 6.1 cant be that different from version 6.0 in my experience with the TyTN II as 6.1 just had small enhancements to 6.0?
I at least need some navigation & voice command software to work on the Touch Pro 2 as it just can not be operated safely whilst moving otherwise, and there is no point in having it in the first place if i can't get these two software types to work, which is a big problem for me.
Does anyone know what software does work, although i think it is the HTC TouchFlo Skin that is the problem with other programs i have tried this weekend, as it does not allow third part software to be displayed on the home screen easily, even google apps toolbar has probs, does this sound feasible?
Can anyone help me out with this or did i buy the wrong phone maybe a Touch Pro would have been better as closer to my TyTN II layout and functions?
Thanks in advance
Alex
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TT 7 Does work with Rhodium, as does VC, everything has it's quirks of config. BT has always been a pain in the ass and requires different settings for different HFPs, Car Kits and A2DPs.
If you wan to kill Touch Flow, go into start/settings/personal/today and untick the TF.
There are plenty of threads and posts that will resolve most of your issues mate.
Search the entire forum, not just the Rhodium section and you'll get the answers you need.
Cheers,
Beasty
From your list of programs I can only confirm that Tomtom 7 DOES work, and it works very well. I'm using 7.915.9196 VGA
I haven't installed much software yet as Ive been a bit busy, but everything I've put on has worked pefectly. Admittedly I only installed stuff that worked on my Diamond which was also wm6.1
alexsimmons said:
Hi there
Firstly i am a very heavy user of my PDA's but not very technical & apologies for long post, but cant find the answers anywhere else on this site.
Have been using HTC SIM free handsets for approx 4.5 Years now, and been using a HTC TyTN II for the last year, updated the ROM from WM6.0 to WM 6.1 then everything started going wrong so decided to spend the £500 to jump to the HTC Touch Pro 2 but am very frustrated and almost at the point of going back to the TyTN II or going to another brand of phone as none of the software that i had on my TyTN II works with the Touch Pro 2 WM 6.1, as follows:
1. TomTom Navigator 6 does not work but works on TyTN II WM 6.1?
2. TomTom Navigator 7 (Tried it & HTC Confirmed it will not work either)
3. MS Voice Command or any other voice command software does not work
4. Many other MUST HAVE programs i had on TyTN II WM6.1 also will not work now
5. Company supplied software wont work either,
6. It also wont work with my Landrover Freelander 2 PTI kit, so am forced to go back to a BT Headset
Surely PDA software OS 6.1 cant be that different from version 6.0 in my experience with the TyTN II as 6.1 just had small enhancements to 6.0?
I at least need some navigation & voice command software to work on the Touch Pro 2 as it just can not be operated safely whilst moving otherwise, and there is no point in having it in the first place if i can't get these two software types to work, which is a big problem for me.
Does anyone know what software does work, although i think it is the HTC TouchFlo Skin that is the problem with other programs i have tried this weekend, as it does not allow third part software to be displayed on the home screen easily, even google apps toolbar has probs, does this sound feasible?
Can anyone help me out with this or did i buy the wrong phone maybe a Touch Pro would have been better as closer to my TyTN II layout and functions?
Thanks in advance
Alex
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first of all sorry to hear you're having so much issues with the software you need to run on the phone. i have a kaiser/tytn 2 and software from that i have working on tp2. tomtom6 from tytn 2 does not work but tomtom7 defo does. MSVC does work as well but you need to get version compatible with tp2. look in the HTC BLACKSTONE forum as most of the apps from this device work with tp2. please remember that tp2 is WVGA res so that alone may effect the compatibility of some programs. the Blackstone forum is littered with programs that you may need that will work on tp2 and even better! can't really comment on your work software as dont know what it is! good luck with searching!
oh and i know it may be silly but make sure your phone is visible for BT purposes an use phone to pair with your landrover. mine works well with my parrot system with no issues!
shingers5 said:
first of all sorry to hear you're having so much issues with the software you need to run on the phone. i have a kaiser/tytn 2 and software from that i have working on tp2. tomtom6 from tytn 2 does not work but tomtom7 defo does. MSVC does work as well but you need to get version compatible with tp2. look in the HTC BLACKSTONE forum as most of the apps from this device work with tp2. please remember that tp2 is WVGA res so that alone may effect the compatibility of some programs. the Blackstone forum is littered with programs that you may need that will work on tp2 and even better! can't really comment on your work software as dont know what it is! good luck with searching!
oh and i know it may be silly but make sure your phone is visible for BT purposes an use phone to pair with your landrover. mine works well with my parrot system with no issues!
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What he said!
agreed that WVGA is your biggest problem. install "second today" to solve your problem with things not on the screen because of touch flo.
Hi Beasty
Thanks for tips, now i know what its codename is, it made it easier to find stuff on this excellent site after i saw your and other replies and have since loaded MS VC 1.6 UK Edition which seems to work ok although not tried it yet with my new HTC BT Headset.
In reply to the others thanks for the great info so far, i have tried loading TomTom 7 once again from the MicroSD card and it wont even load, its just says "this version of TomTom 7 is not compatible with this device" when i click "OK" it just terminates. I dont know what version it is till it loads?
A friend of mine this evening says that the closest phone on the TT7 compatability list seems to be the HTC Touch HD, and that CoPilot 7 actually lists Touch Pro2 as a compatible device, so i will have to try that i think and see if it actually does work, and will let you and the forum know
In terms of the work applications, i know they are based on the MS .NET Micro framework and so should work out of the box, but no they dont, but i think it is a screen resolution issue more than anything else.
The other app i need to run ideally is "Nimbuzz" Multi IM app, again for work.
On both of these work related apps i get an intermittent error message, saying "An error has occurred with xxxx appplication, send error report yes or no" when i choose Yes, it loops same message, when i clicked No it loops once then closes.
I removed the "Nimbuzz" application and soft reset, but still get the error message for it which is weird. So if anyone knows of a Multi IM (Inc Skype) which will run on Touch Pro 2 i look forward to knowing about it.
Work funded 50% of my Touch Pro2 purchase so need to get this all working as best i can
Thanks again for the tips, hints, instructions
Alex
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MSVC does work as well but you need to get version compatible with tp2. look in the HTC BLACKSTONE forum as most of the apps from this device work with tp2.
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Do you know if anyone has been able to get MSVC to work with the TP2 with a bluetooth headset?
I have tried both the US and European versions of MSVC 1.6 with my TP2. It only seems to work with the built-in speaker.
mschaffer said:
Do you know if anyone has been able to get MSVC to work with the TP2 with a bluetooth headset?
I have tried both the US and European versions of MSVC 1.6 with my TP2. It only seems to work with the built-in speaker.
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haven't tried as dont use bluetooth headsets. can't stand having that bulk in my ear. from what i have read it doesn't work but i can't be certain as not used myelf
Also make sure you install .net compact framework 3.5:
http://rapidshare.com/files/77805623/NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab
Hi
Added "Second Today" thanks for that, what a cool app, except got all those nasty recurring error messages that i had big trouble getting rid of.
Have now returned to bog standard WM6.1 having got rid of TouchFlo 3D thanks to Beasty
I like to use what i am used to till i have all the progs i need to be work productive on the move, will then fiddle with TouchFlo 3D laterz
Alex
tomtom 7.450 works well on my tp2
alexsimmons said:
Hi
Added "Second Today" thanks for that, what a cool app, except got all those nasty recurring error messages that i had big trouble getting rid of.
Have now returned to bog standard WM6.1 having got rid of TouchFlo 3D thanks to Beasty
I like to use what i am used to till i have all the progs i need to be work productive on the move, will then fiddle with TouchFlo 3D laterz
Alex
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No problem sir,
We are all here to help each other, TF3D is a highly usefull interface, just takes a bit of getting used to, 2nd today and TF3D is a great combination especially when you configure one of the softkeys to switch between both.
Multi IM you could try BeeJive, not a lot of experience with this (seem to remember Elite team including it in their Roms) but there are plenty available on the net.
Cheers,
Beasty
Hi All
Got MSVC working on TP2 but not with a BT headset so have just bought the Parrot Minikit Slim with voice dialling, although the voice dialling only works if you can sync the TP 2 with it just like my landrover, but it does not tell you this on the outside of the box.
Guess what? The TP2 is not listed on the Parrot Minikit compatibility list so may have spent/wasted another £70 today as cant sync the TP2 contacts with the Parrot system which is the same prob i was having with my landrover
Alex
alexsimmons said:
Hi there
Firstly i am a very heavy user of my PDA's but not very technical & apologies for long post, but cant find the answers anywhere else on this site.
Have been using HTC SIM free handsets for approx 4.5 Years now, and been using a HTC TyTN II for the last year, updated the ROM from WM6.0 to WM 6.1 then everything started going wrong so decided to spend the £500 to jump to the HTC Touch Pro 2 but am very frustrated and almost at the point of going back to the TyTN II or going to another brand of phone as none of the software that i had on my TyTN II works with the Touch Pro 2 WM 6.1, as follows:
1. TomTom Navigator 6 does not work but works on TyTN II WM 6.1?
2. TomTom Navigator 7 (Tried it & HTC Confirmed it will not work either)
3. MS Voice Command or any other voice command software does not work
4. Many other MUST HAVE programs i had on TyTN II WM6.1 also will not work now
5. Company supplied software wont work either,
6. It also wont work with my Landrover Freelander 2 PTI kit, so am forced to go back to a BT Headset
Surely PDA software OS 6.1 cant be that different from version 6.0 in my experience with the TyTN II as 6.1 just had small enhancements to 6.0?
I at least need some navigation & voice command software to work on the Touch Pro 2 as it just can not be operated safely whilst moving otherwise, and there is no point in having it in the first place if i can't get these two software types to work, which is a big problem for me.
Does anyone know what software does work, although i think it is the HTC TouchFlo Skin that is the problem with other programs i have tried this weekend, as it does not allow third part software to be displayed on the home screen easily, even google apps toolbar has probs, does this sound feasible?
Can anyone help me out with this or did i buy the wrong phone maybe a Touch Pro would have been better as closer to my TyTN II layout and functions?
Thanks in advance
Alex
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Hey Alex...
I am sorry to hear that you are having so many problems and I have a fix-all solution for you.... I have a posting up in the marketplace, where I am looking to Trade a HTC Titan (Sprint Mogul) and 2 HTC Kaisers (AT&T Tilt's) for 1 GSM Touch Pro 2.... & I can confirm that TomTom 7 works on all 3 (I have the GPS unlocked on the Mogul).... Just think... 3 phones for your 1... What a great deal
Can someone post the link to the UK version of MSVC? I can't see it at the MS site.
I installed MSVC on my TP2 which led to a hard reset, so I want to be sure that I'm using the right version.
Thanks
"...i have tried loading TomTom 7 once again from the MicroSD card and it wont even load, its just says "this version of TomTom 7 is not compatible with this device" when i click "OK" it just terminates. I dont know what version it is till it loads?"
I've exactly this same problem. Does anybody know how to get around this and get it installed?
Wouldn't you know it. 24 hours of bashing my head against the desk trying to get this to work....I add a message to this board and 10 minutes later it works. Just used 7.915.9196 VGA as pointed out by stunno and remembered to look in program files after it was installed instead of repeatedly clicking on the original installer on the memory card.
alexsimmons said:
Guess what? The TP2 is not listed on the Parrot Minikit compatibility list so may have spent/wasted another £70 today as cant sync the TP2 contacts with the Parrot system which is the same prob i was having with my landrover
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So strange.
I'm using the parrot CK3100, and that's working fine, out of the box.
Just let the TP2 find the Parrot, 1234 as pin, and the TP2 recognizes it as a Hands-free set.
And it automatically started synchronizing.
My parrot 3200LS will not sync the directory either. It just disconnects the bluetooth device as soon as you tell it to sync. It works as a handfree ok, but its a pain to make calls without the directory.