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manilla2d vs HTC Home in memory terms

Hello, I was usgin joshoss V8B2 manilla2d and with some apps installed (via device update) I was left with like 10 megs free, so I tried the PDACornerPro.V27 - Build 20759 NonRBSN Josh-Abs (both greeeeeeeeat ROMS!!!!) and installed basically the same apps with the addition of HTC Home to have a nice look and feel (closer to manilla)... and ended up with around 12 megs free.... so I'm not sure which one is eating more resources.... any idea? manilla is still more unstable, right?
diego

Personally I do not feel that manila is for the hermes, until I get my touch3g I am going to run HTC home and spb mobile shell.

I am also quite interested in the study...
Currently using HTC HOme and happy with it, but if Manilla doesn't consume much more resources (In terms of RAM: for the storage we can all use a Micro SD anyway...), I would immediately switch !!!
Anybody can comment more?

I played around with the earlier versions of M2D but found it very unstable. I have yet to try the new roms with it cooked in but am going to soon.
I find HTC home a little bare for my needs with M2D doing what I want and not such a bare screen. I like the fullscreen use and nicer look. I believe it does use more Ram but not a major amount. My issue was always the stability. Hopefully the newer versions prove to be somewhat more stable then their earlier incarnations...
Cheers...

I am a streamline fanatic and like to keep my resources in check. Personally, on the Hermes I think Manila eats up to many resources.
Maybe in the earlier versions there might have been some memory leaks, but I noticed that in the end, I would end up with under 20megs of ram. And if you play with Manila that would go down. HTC Home uses about 4 megs.
Also when I had Manila on, I found that Opera would crash more often, mostly due to running out of memory while it would never do such thing while running HTC Home.
Also I noticed some sluggishness on the Hermes while using Manila, which also sometimes took a little longer --5-10 seconds-- to load, depending on the ROM.
So all in all, once HTC Home is loaded, it is always almost instantaneous, while Manila would again slowdown the phone in mid-operation. And by that I mean switching from the Today Screen to let's say settings or programs.

ultramag69 said:
I played around with the earlier versions of M2D but found it very unstable. I have yet to try the new roms with it cooked in but am going to soon.
I find HTC home a little bare for my needs with M2D doing what I want and not such a bare screen. I like the fullscreen use and nicer look. I believe it does use more Ram but not a major amount. My issue was always the stability. Hopefully the newer versions prove to be somewhat more stable then their earlier incarnations...
Cheers...
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I believe Josh's version is stable (from what I read)

Hi guys,
I tried like 4-5 Manilla 2D builds. They all had some bugs which weren't such a pain in the ass, but they were annoying. I was using PDA Corner V25 - great rom. Several days ago I installed PDAViet's Manilla2D v20 ROM and I must admit it is great. I didn't have any problems with manilla in terms of performance. The RAM left is 21MB on boot. The overall performance of the ROM is great. All apps work as fast as on the abusalza's rom. However I haven't tested the YouTube app, since I don't use it. The only problem is the lower in call volume compared to abusalza's rom. And if you use video call, I'm not sure if it's included.

I used multiple ROMs with Manilla 2D .. im now flashing backa again to a ROM without Manilla because i had too many problems with it.. i'm used to listen a lot of music... but with manilla on my Hermie the battery is empty so fast that sometimes i don't even have the chance to lsiten to the music ( i recharge it every night.. and i usually listen to music at about 15:00 pm.. by then it's already on low battery =s
on the other hand there are some stupid buggs in it.. like youtube doesnt work... sometimes the usb-connection doesnt work.. or what also bothers me is the volume control that is removed from audiomanager... there are also some other small problems which bother me but i'm not going to spend any more time on it right now
sorry for my bad english =)
ps. if somebody finds a tool for me to change the music player in manilla ( like from audiomanager to windows mediaplayer) pm me pls..

yes, in my case, I was using Josh's version and it was very stable and had I think all functionality working...the problem was after installing some apps, and after runining for a while opening and closing things I get an error of out of memory...
is there a way to make all "Device Update" to install on storage card?
will some more space on main memory help the RAM issue?

I've tried it out a bit. I'm using update 19 from here, and the Manilla 2D Customiser. On CRC's 13.0 naked non-big storage rom, I used UC to put on all the cab files in the right order, except for the Opera and Youtube apps. Using the customiser, I have removed the internet, mapping and settings tabs, and it runs pretty smoothly. Usually between 18-20MB RAM free. This does tend to go down a bit with usage, but I tend to soft-reset daily, and its not really a problem.

been using pdaviet's V20 and it is really stable and fast. youtube does work and the few times i used it, manilla2d kept running in the background without affecting overall performance which doesn't happen when i run opera and big boss dumps manilla2d to get more ram. it's still one of the best roms i've come across so far and hoping to stick to it - even having to put up with an annoying bug on calendar app.
i might be wrong about this but i found the whole thing a lot faster when i decided to be honest with myself and disable some tabs from manilla2d, tabs that would make it look good and get friends wowing but not really worth keeping just for the sake of showing off. i've disabled weather, music and pictures. pictures cause if anyone starts fiddling with my phone and see my pics THAT would be something to be embarrassed about, for music i have my zune and for the weather, i can just look outside the window.

SlakerBoi said:
been using pdaviet's V20 and it is really stable and fast. youtube does work and the few times i used it, manilla2d kept running in the background without affecting overall performance which doesn't happen when i run opera and big boss dumps manilla2d to get more ram. it's still one of the best roms i've come across so far and hoping to stick to it - even having to put up with an annoying bug on calendar app.
i might be wrong about this but i found the whole thing a lot faster when i decided to be honest with myself and disable some tabs from manilla2d, tabs that would make it look good and get friends wowing but not really worth keeping just for the sake of showing off. i've disabled weather, music and pictures. pictures cause if anyone starts fiddling with my phone and see my pics THAT would be something to be embarrassed about, for music i have my zune and for the weather, i can just look outside the window.
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I had the exact same deal running when I used M2D lol. But I've since ditched the whole 2D thing. I'm running PDACorner V27 and man it is faaast AND stable. M2D would crash way too often for my taste. In reality it was designed for the Kaiser/Tilt. Which is why not too many people on those forums have as many issues with it as we do. I remember I had the full 2D setup and I was running Opera and my Program mem usage was on 98% (about 2-3 MBs free). That's why I've decided to wait for the Fuze if I really want Manila.

When I try to update library from storage card it will start to adding files then stop. Any suggestions. It worked fine with another rom I was using.

thunda_chunky said:
I had the exact same deal running when I used M2D lol. But I've since ditched the whole 2D thing. I'm running PDACorner V27 and man it is faaast AND stable. M2D would crash way too often for my taste. In reality it was designed for the Kaiser/Tilt. Which is why not too many people on those forums have as many issues with it as we do. I remember I had the full 2D setup and I was running Opera and my Program mem usage was on 98% (about 2-3 MBs free). That's why I've decided to wait for the Fuze if I really want Manila.
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i really have the same problem asa u, and now i do not deside to flash any ROM that had installed the M2D, & I like Spb Shell most, cause it is nice and stable

Alltel WM6.1 ROM, my impression

I haven't seen too much about this and just upgraded so I thought I'd post some of my thoughts on it:
ROM Version 3.10.671.1
ROM Date 9/22/08
Radio Version 3.42.30
Found it at software.alltel.com (which redirected to HTC's site)
Speed seems a little faster than my stock ROM.
Battery life is noticeably better. Before it was terrible, now it lasts a full day.
It includes threaded text messages. So far I love this...always envied it on my wife's BlackBerry.
Enables built in GPS. I activated the 30 day trial and it seems to work well. I don't like the actual software as much as iGO 8 that I've been using with an external bluetooth GPS, but its still decent.
****I'd love to know if I can use the internal GPS with iGO? I poked around a bit but couldn't see any way to do it with this vanilla ROM. If someone knows something I'm all ears.
The CUBE didn't change at all (still sucks)
The weather program still doesn't cover my city which is terribly irritating (useless)
Comes with Opera 8.65 bundled. It loads slow initially but seems decent other than that.
SO...if I could get the internal GPS working with iGO 8, and get my Weather database fixed, I'd be pretty happy.
I'm not opposed to trying one of the ROMS on here, but am usually overwhelmed by all the choices. If anyone has a suggestion based on my comments above, I'd love to hear it.

FLAWLESSVW said:
I haven't seen too much about this and just upgraded so I thought I'd post some of my thoughts on it:
ROM Version 3.10.671.1
ROM Date 9/22/08
Radio Version 3.42.30
Found it at software.alltel.com (which redirected to HTC's site)
Speed seems a little faster than my stock ROM.
Battery life is noticeably better. Before it was terrible, now it lasts a full day.
It includes threaded text messages. So far I love this...always envied it on my wife's BlackBerry.
Enables built in GPS. I activated the 30 day trial and it seems to work well. I don't like the actual software as much as iGO 8 that I've been using with an external bluetooth GPS, but its still decent.
****I'd love to know if I can use the internal GPS with iGO? I poked around a bit but couldn't see any way to do it with this vanilla ROM. If someone knows something I'm all ears.
The CUBE didn't change at all (still sucks)
The weather program still doesn't cover my city which is terribly irritating (useless)
Comes with Opera 8.65 bundled. It loads slow initially but seems decent other than that.
SO...if I could get the internal GPS working with iGO 8, and get my Weather database fixed, I'd be pretty happy.
I'm not opposed to trying one of the ROMS on here, but am usually overwhelmed by all the choices. If anyone has a suggestion based on my comments above, I'd love to hear it.
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Im new here as of tonight but let me throw in my two cents about iGo. Never used it but have seen lots of posts of users that do. I like Tom Tom 7. You shoudl, however be able to use iGo with the internal GPS. Its not a windows setting per se, but a setting in the GPS program. Somehow you told it to use the external GPS so you should be able to have it look for GPS internally. WM6.1 has a built in virtual device. Point your application at this, usually com 4 or select "Windows Managed"
Let me know how it works out as I am noew to the vouge, coming from the TITAN. Couldnt handle the lack of memory. Finally drove me insane so I called VZW and they are sending me out a 6900, should be here tomorrow. Scouting out kitchens, GPS fixes, etc.

GPS Hacks
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377
My Custom Alltel ROM
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33359

I would agree with the initial post. Everything seems faster...love the threaded messages...and the battery does last noticeably longer. I have applied the battery registry tweak to see if I can get any more out of it.

conflipper said:
GPS Hacks
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377
My Custom Alltel ROM
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33359
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Bumping old news. But Cons rom is flat out the BEST alltel rom out there.

I agree get Con's ROM you will not regret it.... Go with the Manilla.....

your idea of a perfect rom

whats your idea of a perfect rom? whats it got to have on it? or is there already a perfect rom already? my idea of a perfect rom, basically has a great battery life, can run many games perfectly and has opera mini and doesnt suffer from hard resets.....

Well each use their phone differently. Personally what's on my signature is spot on. I have no issues as I run skyfire browser. Pushes email with exchange 2k7 I don't play games on my phone as it is purely a business device.

A light ROM that has a device update type program to add whatever you want. I would love to say something with M2D or something along those lines but I dont really like any of the options so far. I would rather have it clean and simple and be able to build from there.

Phone function should be fast
I have noticed few other devices of Windows Mobile 6.1, they don't have any problem with the dialer and phone system. Its fast and responsive but here in Hermes it seems its not focused. I am using Faria's Last rom and working fine but yes the phone function is same as before. I have video caller installed and wanted to stay with it otherwise what is the use of 3G network and video phone I have.

ok lets see...
Many problems arent rom issues like Hardresets sooo lets center on my point...
1.- Conections are the future... share is the pulse of new hybrid devices so...
R---- It cant has Bluetooth issues i would like to send from beam a file via BT or pair a stereo headphones without troubles, has BT folder FTP. IRDA fully functional i mean Push via beam and receive too... many issues with this becomes (cause its obsolet). Wm5torage without problems. Wifi without issues for WPA or WEP... Mmmm no issues on comm manager. UMTS HSDPA i dont have problems with this.
2.- Speed is the best way to feel power!... even if they outside are Devices with 200hmz are faster!
R----So I know the speed becomes with new builds even more and more... but it can be performed so much more with some tricks... and the Ram... needs to be intact... i mean no Apps running hide.
3.- The love comes from the Eyes... NEW UI please.
R---- The Icons needs to be atractive... leave the default apps by HTC work good (ok ok with their fixes like HTC home, WMP, etc etc) but with some skins. the phone with opal canvas is really nice. The bars and wall paper dont matters are cuztomizable... the start Icon needs to be a new one not the orb of new builds the BW or the Normal ORB... maybe a newone or Vista likely.
(M2D... maybe but i think it becomes great of flavors ROM one light... A full and a M2D... maybe One with the sidebar by Omnia)
4.- Performance... I hate Soft reset every 2 hours hahahaha
R----The OEM package doesnt matter... maybe the 20207 was the most stable... I dislike everytime make softresets... so i reed somewhere even the newer is not the worth!!! And please fix the PIE cause Skyfire experiments much troubles today they shuts off the sound
5.- Real BIg Storage PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we need storage cause many apps works much better on device memory.
6.- Office works fully many version dont works well... are the most worth it cause bussiness. and all the shortcuts please--- new sounds too.

Couple of questions- just changed from an HD

I've had my TP2 for a week, having moved from an HD and it's pretty good. But there are a few changes I wonder if any one can comment on:
1. My HD ran at about 40-60% memory usage when running reletively few programs. In fact you could be running 10-15 without even noticing. The TP2 runs at a much higher level: 60-70%, and today ran out of functional memory when my daughter had Tilt and Bubble Breaker at the same time. Does anyone know why this might be the case? It's a bit disappointing!
2. I used to run Phone Weaver on the HD. The TP2 can't find my personal ringtone files anywhere, no matter where I put them. The standard software can find them easily.
3. I used to have BBC iPlayer on the HD, but can't access it through the TP2. Is there a way to get it back?
Thanks for your help!

singing hound said:
I've had my TP2 for a week, having moved from an HD and it's pretty good. But there are a few changes I wonder if any one can comment on:
1. My HD ran at about 40-60% memory usage when running reletively few programs. In fact you could be running 10-15 without even noticing. The TP2 runs at a much higher level: 60-70%, and today ran out of functional memory when my daughter had Tilt and Bubble Breaker at the same time. Does anyone know why this might be the case? It's a bit disappointing!
2. I used to run Phone Weaver on the HD. The TP2 can't find my personal ringtone files anywhere, no matter where I put them. The standard software can find them easily.
3. I used to have BBC iPlayer on the HD, but can't access it through the TP2. Is there a way to get it back?
Thanks for your help!
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1 - 10 to 15 apps on the HD without even noticing? Hell no. That is not true.
Anyways, TP2 has the same ammount of RAM as the HD, but has less available to the user. I guess the new TouchFlo3D demands that. Your situation is strange though, because I was able to run 5 apps without a problem.
Maybe you installed something that is draining the memory. Install a good Task Manager and check what is running in the background.
2 - I don't get this. Did you install PhoneWeaver on the TP2 and it can't find the files or what?
3 - Did you access it the normal way, or did you use hacks/tweaks?

singing hound said:
I've had my TP2 for a week, having moved from an HD and it's pretty good. But there are a few changes I wonder if any one can comment on:
1. My HD ran at about 40-60% memory usage when running reletively few programs. In fact you could be running 10-15 without even noticing. The TP2 runs at a much higher level: 60-70%, and today ran out of functional memory when my daughter had Tilt and Bubble Breaker at the same time. Does anyone know why this might be the case? It's a bit disappointing!
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I don't have the device but i think this problem is isolated to your device. I watched a review on youtube (the greatest review i've ever seen by the way) and he had a good 10 apps running. I don't know what each app was doing but he did have them running.
Here is a link to part 2 of the review.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uONMuEeTo7A&annotation_id=annotation_342508&feature=iv
time - 3:05

how does the TP2 compare to the HD (aside of course from keyboard)? Is it faster than HD with a good ROM? Im thinking about the change...

ekerbuddyeker said:
how does the TP2 compare to the HD (aside of course from keyboard)? Is it faster than HD with a good ROM? Im thinking about the change...
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As a former owner of the HD and a user of the TP2 (not owner though) I can safely say........... TP2 IS MUCH FASTER !!!!!! It is much better overall. HD fails @ being a phone very, very hard. TP2 is on another level compared to it.
Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3903040&posted=1#post3903040

singing hound said:
I've had my TP2 for a week, having moved from an HD and it's pretty good. But there are a few changes I wonder if any one can comment on:
1. My HD ran at about 40-60% memory usage when running reletively few programs. In fact you could be running 10-15 without even noticing. The TP2 runs at a much higher level: 60-70%, and today ran out of functional memory when my daughter had Tilt and Bubble Breaker at the same time. Does anyone know why this might be the case? It's a bit disappointing!
2. I used to run Phone Weaver on the HD. The TP2 can't find my personal ringtone files anywhere, no matter where I put them. The standard software can find them easily.
3. I used to have BBC iPlayer on the HD, but can't access it through the TP2. Is there a way to get it back?
Thanks for your help!
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1. find that hard to believe as i too run multiple apps with my tp2 and it has never run as high as that nor run out of memory. as orelsi stated there is something draining your memory and it not down to the device
2. not really sure on that one. i use mp3 trimmer if that helps.
3. did you use bbc ipalyer app or view in opera. if you use in opera need to do 'opera:config' in address bar scroll down to user prefs and input sgh-i900 in custom user agent. if there is any text in custom user agent just add text string 'sgh-i900 at the end of it! this enables bbc iplayer mobile view in opera.
i have actually installed a stand alone bbc iplayer app and that works as well.

Not only is the ram thing related to the fact that the os is taking up more ram but I think I read somewhere it has some ram reserved for video playback or something like that, but if there might be a cab for the old touchflo 3d in WVGA if you want I you could probably use that instead of the new one, which would mean more ram but you would lose all the benefits of the new one

Link278 said:
Not only is the ram thing related to the fact that the os is taking up more ram but I think I read somewhere it has some ram reserved for video playback or something like that, but if there might be a cab for the old touchflo 3d in WVGA if you want I you could probably use that instead of the new one, which would mean more ram but you would lose all the benefits of the new one
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That would kind of defeat the prupose of the upgrade .
I noticed that the new TF2 goes deeper than the old one. You had only some icons on top of windows in the old one. Now you have TF2 almost everywhere and to find windows you would have to dig deep in the settings or menus. Pretty good for people who like TF3D.

orelsi said:
That would kind of defeat the prupose of the upgrade .
I noticed that the new TF2 goes deeper than the old one. You had only some icons on top of windows in the old one. Now you have TF2 almost everywhere and to find windows you would have to dig deep in the settings or menus. Pretty good for people who like TF3D.
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lol I guess so, I think that the new touchflo seems pretty nice because it makes windows mobile more touch friendly, but I haven't actually used it myself

ekerbuddyeker said:
how does the TP2 compare to the HD (aside of course from keyboard)? Is it faster than HD with a good ROM? Im thinking about the change...
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As a business machine it's miles better, and the TF is brilliant. But comparing the two side by side I couldn't say that the overall experience is much better than the HD.

I have noticed that the ram use is much higher than on my fuze running a tf3d2 rom. But after reading around, it seems to be something that can be addressed when custom roms start rolling out for the tp2.

Help with Kernel choice

So I am developing my plan/process to do my first root.
I have decided on Syndicate because it seems like the most stripped down version from what I have read, stable and fast.
With that said, I am having trouble deciding on which kernel. I do understand that every phone is different, that my Epic may not take one rom and or kernl but will take another.
GOAL: I am wanting to make my phone as fast as possible on the stock speed. I dont care about overclocking or anything like that. I want default there. But I want to make sure the kernel I choose is as stable as possible and plays nice with the battery. (edit: when I say fast as possible, I just mean zero lag, easily moves between screens and apps)
Since my 64gb ipod was stolen, I am going to be using my Epic and Google Music for my mp3 player, so music quality is my top concern.
I will then theme my phone, most likely just icons though.
with that said, I guess I have a few choices? TwilightZone, Genocide, etc. I am reading as much as I can, but cant really see what benefit one gets over the other.
I do not tether.
I always use wireless when I can.
Mostly music, some facebook, I do use it to browse.
Then the normal..texting, phone, etc.
If you see any confusion on my part, please go easy on me and let me know

lardo5150 said:
So I am developing my plan/process to do my first root.
I have decided on Syndicate because it seems like the most stripped down version from what I have read, stable and fast.
With that said, I am having trouble deciding on which kernel. I do understand that every phone is different, that my Epic may not take one rom and or kernl but will take another.
GOAL: I am wanting to make my phone as fast as possible on the stock speed. I dont care about overclocking or anything like that. I want default there. But I want to make sure the kernel I choose is as stable as possible and plays nice with the battery. (edit: when I say fast as possible, I just mean zero lag, easily moves between screens and apps)
Since my 64gb ipod was stolen, I am going to be using my Epic and Google Music for my mp3 player, so music quality is my top concern.
I will then theme my phone, most likely just icons though.
with that said, I guess I have a few choices? TwilightZone, Genocide, etc. I am reading as much as I can, but cant really see what benefit one gets over the other.
I do not tether.
I always use wireless when I can.
Mostly music, some facebook, I do use it to browse.
Then the normal..texting, phone, etc.
If you see any confusion on my part, please go easy on me and let me know
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Genocide 2.0 by Rodderick. Hands down

Thanks, I appreciate the response.

Poweramp has been my musc player top choice... if you use slacker and set it to cache while you sleep you can replay your cached selection without using any data later, data connection kills battery in the background too. I have no clue of what kernels to reccomend since I recently flashed to eh17 deodexed stock. I prefer to make my modifications on my own though, just so I can learn them all by hand for a future rom release
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couple of reasons I chose google music. (poweramp seems to be the most recommended though, and I would go with it, but.....)
I want my entire music library with me, so I can choose anything I want. That is why I had the 64gb ipod.
With the epic, I can go up to 32gb micro sd, but at the moment, no money, not until November (we will be credit card free then )
So, with Google music, it is free (at the moment), and I can load up my entire library. Sound quality is just fine.
Once I get the 32gb microsd, I will switch to poweramp.

Try out all the kernels. See which one work well with your device.

Revolt kernel has a lot of praise, as does the newest Twilight.
Many people swear by Genocide though, so that's what I've got for you.

lardo5150 said:
So I am developing my plan/process to do my first root.
I have decided on Syndicate because it seems like the most stripped down version from what I have read, stable and fast.
With that said, I am having trouble deciding on which kernel. I do understand that every phone is different, that my Epic may not take one rom and or kernl but will take another.
GOAL: I am wanting to make my phone as fast as possible on the stock speed. I dont care about overclocking or anything like that. I want default there. But I want to make sure the kernel I choose is as stable as possible and plays nice with the battery. (edit: when I say fast as possible, I just mean zero lag, easily moves between screens and apps)
Since my 64gb ipod was stolen, I am going to be using my Epic and Google Music for my mp3 player, so music quality is my top concern.
I will then theme my phone, most likely just icons though.
with that said, I guess I have a few choices? TwilightZone, Genocide, etc. I am reading as much as I can, but cant really see what benefit one gets over the other.
I do not tether.
I always use wireless when I can.
Mostly music, some facebook, I do use it to browse.
Then the normal..texting, phone, etc.
If you see any confusion on my part, please go easy on me and let me know
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lardo5150 said:
So I am developing my plan/process to do my first root.
I have decided on Syndicate because it seems like the most stripped down version from what I have read, stable and fast.
With that said, I am having trouble deciding on which kernel. I do understand that every phone is different, that my Epic may not take one rom and or kernl but will take another.
GOAL: I am wanting to make my phone as fast as possible on the stock speed. I dont care about overclocking or anything like that. I want default there. But I want to make sure the kernel I choose is as stable as possible and plays nice with the battery. (edit: when I say fast as possible, I just mean zero lag, easily moves between screens and apps)
Since my 64gb ipod was stolen, I am going to be using my Epic and Google Music for my mp3 player, so music quality is my top concern.
I will then theme my phone, most likely just icons though.
with that said, I guess I have a few choices? TwilightZone, Genocide, etc. I am reading as much as I can, but cant really see what benefit one gets over the other.
I do not tether.
I always use wireless when I can.
Mostly music, some facebook, I do use it to browse.
Then the normal..texting, phone, etc.
If you see any confusion on my part, please go easy on me and let me know
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Rodderik genocide eco 5 is a great one also
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