Hi...anyone can comment on this subject objectively.
I'm toying with the idea of putting together a ROM for my iPAQ h5550 with WM5. This is an excellent piece of hardware that HP decided to dump & moved on to other models.
Those of you who have managed to upgrade your devices to WM5, please advice me on the following:
What do I need to start with? I've the iPAQ h5550.
Is the hardware compatible? I read from some reviews that generally all X-Scale CPUs are acceptable. My unit has 128Mb RAM & 40 Mb ROM.
What software tools are relevant for this project?
Which ROM can I use as a base for the OS?
How do I get the drivers for the hardware to work in WM5?
That's all i can think of so far...would appreciate if someone can point me in the right direction...
Thanks!
the simple truth: No. There is no WM5 Rom Upgrade for this device. And i think it's absolutely impossible to build your own WM5...
TRY, IT WORKS
Want to try WM5.0 out for your self? I originally posted this on ipaqhq.com but I figured this forum is more of a target for such information . ...
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Hello,
im an old reader of this form, cause im reading it since 2 years, but never tryed to write something.
Now im really interested in this... the upgrade of an ipaq 3970 to WM 5.0.
I know that noone tryed it, cause i really couldnt find anything on interent. But i found that someone update its ipaq 5450.
So the two has the same hardware i think apart the processor (new version) and the wifi.
So... someone can help me or explain me, cause i really cant get nothing until now.
I tryed with the described method for 5450 to update, but the Hima update tool isnt able to connect to my ipaq.
Every help will be appreciated,
thanks,
Tommaso
i've yet to have confirmed anybody ever porting a rom from one device to anohter even if the hardware was somewhat the same
h5450 to WM5
Could you maybe post some more info - links on this upgrade of h5450 to WM5? I'd like to try it. I've done few attaempts which have failed, btu so have others to upgrading to WM2003. But maybe I'm doing something wrong.
please post more info.
Cheers
Y
Uhm... i dont think that here i can write links or something else about a software that sure is warez.
So u can find it easily on p2p channels, but i dont know really if it works. From what is written yes and i can believe this yes, cause i struggled much and i could update my 3970 bluetooth stack to the very last one stack outta there of Broadcomm and make it work. So i suppose that there arent so much differences from pda to pda.
iPAQ 3970 to WM 5.0
Yes, I'm interested in it too!
Can any one guide me how to do it in kitchen ? !
many thanks!
As a user of Familiar Linux on a few different Ipaq devices I can confirm that the 3900 and 5000 series use the same installation file for installing Linux, so it may be possible to 'cross-flash' both these devices, however as always, make sure you have a good OS restore file available.
Actually perhaps the best way to go would be to use the OHH bootloader used in installing Familiar to save a ROM image file before trying any exotic upgrades, might help in any unbricking that may be necessary if things go wrong....
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Short answer: No. Why would there be?
Also "My axim" says a lot about the device... Is it an X5, X3, X30, X50 or X51, if its an X51 theres a chance Dell will release a Crossbow upgrade.
an X51 mid. I heard you can do it aslong as you hex edit the rom to make it look like wm5. arrrg i just want a decent MSN messenger unlike the **** pocket msn and live messenger BETA which dont work.
Is there anyway i can flash it with a Wm6 Rom? i get to the point where the updater is checking device info then activesync stops working. Any help would be great!
Thanks,
Kurt
I don't think you picked up on my point that its not possible currently, it would be missing to many drivers for the Axim so even if you did manage to flash it you would probably have a nice brick. Also the way the ROM interfaces with the bootloader ROM would be different on each device.
ok thanks for that i was just wondering if it was possible. Thanks for your help!
Kurt
i need a file to flash my axim x50
can any help i need a file and intruction on how to flash my axim x50
Hello everyone,
sorry for posting this noob questions here, I see that you all are discussing software development and stuff, but it is the only place I've found to ask about it.
My situation: I have a Dell Axim X51v wich is still on warranty and CompleteCare (until march 2009!). It has a WM5 A04 Portuguese Rom wich is very unstable and quite lame (I don't like the system in portuguese!) and I'm looking forward to use the WM6 Football Rom, that everywhere I read says its very nice.
The fact is: If I had to call Dell for support, I'll need to give them the Ax with the WM5 Portuguese rom. I really consider this since the device isn't brand new and if something happens I don't want to loose it.
So, what I need to know is how (and if it is possible of course) to get the image of my Ax as it is now, to store in a safe copy on my pc or a cd, upgrade to Football's WM6 (wich version, btw? I see that there are RTM and Preview A06 on the thread) and then eventually get it back to my current rom, if I need to use the warranty. I know that the upgrade part is well documented around the internet, but the downgrade to the same or similar system is the major doubt.
I'll be grateful for any help. I'm new to all this and there are lots of knowledge around. Never had any experience flashing, just upgraded my ROM one time with the official procedure from HP, on my old Ipaq.
Thanks!!
I do not recommand to install the new file because they will broke dell warranty (I know you still come back to A12 rom but for potugal rom I don't know.
Well, I guess since you can flash a different language ROM of a different OS you could turn back to the other... or does there are problem flashing into an "older" version rom? (mine is A04 brazilian)
Anyway, thanks for the reply!
My WM5 is crashing frequently and I don't know why... I've installed some old dictionaries and maybe they messed it up. As I think on hard-reseting it, I consider the system upgrade, since WM5 is stupidly slow sometimes...
anyone else know about this rom switch-around?
I guess that if I have to call Dell, or my Ax is usable and I can switch the rom or it is unusable and probably they won't note that it was hacked! What about that?
The Second Step: Porting XIP section.
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The First Step: Testing Tools. Completed!!!
WM5 A02 Modifed ROM - test it!
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I don't have device for testing and need your help. Test it!
You need Dell Axim X50 PDA with installed WM5 A02 ROM (with A02 Bootloader)!
Flashing:
1) Unpack files from archive into root of FAT32 SD-Card.
2) Insert the SD-Card into your Axim and start the SD Image Loader by Pressing Wireless + Power + Reset
3) The Image Loader will search for flash images on your SD-Card.
4) Press the action key twice, this starts the update process.
5) After the process is finished you will be asked to hard reset your device. Follow this instruction and wait for the OS to load.
Thank you! Can make a x51 ( not x51v) machine rom?
MagLite_RUS said:
First test ROM
I don't have device for testing and need your help. Test it!
You need Dell Axim X50 PDA with installed WM5 A02 ROM (with A02 Bootloader)!
Flashing:
1) Unpack files from archive into root of FAT32 SD-Card.
2) Insert the SD-Card into your Axim and start the SD Image Loader by Pressing Wireless + Power + Reset
3) The Image Loader will search for flash images on your SD-Card.
4) Press the action key twice, this starts the update process.
5) After the process is finished you will be asked to hard reset your device. Follow this instruction and wait for the OS to load.
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Holy Cow!!! Maglite, how the heck were you able to fix the broken modules??? I've been working for over 6 months on trying to fix it and I haven't found a fix yet. If I remember correctly for the X50v rom, you had someone help you. Who helped you fix the rom??? Although, I must say that you've been very helpful getting me started with a functional rom (without errors). Might I mention that this is apparently not for a X50(low).
Wow, just...
Talk about being blindsided. If this works, it gives me big hope for a possible WM6/6.1 for my extra x51 I've got. Been trying to get an x51v recently to finally get away from the x50v I keep using (damned NOR memory is just killing it), and I happened to find a nice x51 on Craig's List for cheap with some extra batteries and chargers and cradles too.
But wow... outstanding work, even if I don't have an x50 to test it out and offer bug reports.
Now I'm curious if someone can do an x51 WM6/6.1 ROM finally... this is very promising work, MagLite, and I for one thank you even so. Congrats...
I might be inclined to make a decent WM6 rom for X51 since Lenny has neglected to provide this (even though he did try a test rom).
Steven855 said:
I might be inclined to make a decent WM6 rom for X51 since Lenny has neglected to provide this (even though he did try a test rom).
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I build/make ROMs for more devices than I can count now. And it helps to have a device. My WM6.1 problem on X51 is an XIP problem, and I hate trying to troubleshoot that problem without a device close at hand. My upload is too slow (50kbps) to keep upping ROMs for ppl to test. I'd love to release one, it's easy to build them, just testing is hard without a device! You get me a device, and I can have you a ROM within the week! I did the same for the X50v.
Nice release Mag!
I would gladly donate my X50 (Mid) for dev purposes, if it were to come back to me with a fancy WM6/6.1 ROM when it is done. It is currently on A02, I believe - fresh from a reset.
As long as it'll be back within... say, 6 months. PM and we'll talk.
-bZj
x51 can use?
First rom dont works.
Frezzes on loading xip.
I'm working on it...
ok!
The First Step: Testing Tools.
WM5 A02 Modifed ROM - test it!
I need your help!
MagLite_RUS said:
ok!
The First Step: Testing Tools.
WM5 A02 Modifed ROM - test it!
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Do you mean to test this ROM or install your original 6.1 ROM after installing this?
brat1475 said:
Do you mean to test this ROM or install your original 6.1 ROM after installing this?
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Test this rom. First beta of WM6.1 don't works, frezzing on booting xip section.
The WM A02 modifed ROM loaded sucessfully. The ROM responds much faster than the other WM5 ROMs I have tried. So far, I have had no errors or freezes. Wifi and bluetooth work as well. Is there anything specific in the ROM you would like me to check?
Thanks for a working base Maglite. Now I can really do some major rom building (time permitting when away from school). Next, I need a working rom base for the X50(low) WM5 A02 rom.
I'm trying to update my Axim now....
I'll report back in a few....
EDIT: Back, and nothing is smoking. Just WM5. Anything special I should play with?
-bZj
I would guess what MagLite wants to know is: would you say the performance is equal or better than using WM2003SE on it, the factory ROM?
Have you tried any video playback using TCPMP or whatever to make sure it's functional (a benchmark would come in handy too, it's accessed from File - Benchmark and then play a minute or two of video and report the results listed for Average Speed at the top of the list of statistics would come in handy.
If you can/could run that pre-WM5 ROM it would tell him/us the difference in performance between the ROMs, at least in terms of video playback which tends to be the most demanding thing a PDA can really do.
It's what I use as the baseline for testing on my own PDAs...
I don't think you can test the WM5 A02 rom fairly, because Maglite hasn't fixed the biggest problem that's been plagueing WM5 on the X50 series since the beginning.
You can't fix something that technically isn't broken, yanno. The x50 series has NOR type memory, that's how it was designed, that's how it works, and once you accept that you'll come to realize it's not broken: they work exactly as they're designed to work. The x51 series uses NAND, so Dell went back to the drawing board and improved that aspect of their PDAs. Sure, I'd love to have an x51v, but so far I've never found one for a price I could afford (I keep finding x50v models for $100 or less, but the x51v is always $175 or more, pisses me off).
So no, there's nothing MagLite, or Lenny, or Microsoft, or even Dell at this point can "do" for the x50 series because technically they work perfectly as designed.
Having said that, if MagLite can get his x50v WM6 A02 ROM and find the 0 pagepool mod for it (like the way Zeus_Alex modded that specific ROM), and then apply that (the 0 pagepool mod) to that x50 WM6 or 6.1 ROM above (note I'm being specific here and talking about the x50 ROM) then we could end up with an x50 WM6/6.1 ROM that's just as fast and snappy as the x50v ROM I'm using on my x50v right now.
I have a spare x50 and an x51 - the non-VGA non-Intel graphics Axims and I'd love to get WM6 on them, I just don't have the time to modify and cook ROMs, so I appreciate the effort these folks like MagLite, Lenny, and all the others put into creating ROMs.
So, MagLite... I think if this x50 ROM works (I haven't had a chance to test it, might not be able to do it since my x50 and x51 are in storage and I'm pretty busy these days, can't make the trip to the storage place), and you can make that 0 pagepool edit for it, I'll bet the performance improves dramatically.
Your WM6 A02 ROM for the x50v with Zeus_Alex making the 0pp edit gives me the best performance of any ROM I've ever used on my x50v, even faster than WM2003SE, and even with the known filesys.exe issue. It's just wicked evil fast and the battery life is fantastic, and I really can't say why. All I know is it works and it's hella fast, period.
Thanks, and have fun, always...
Done (with AS alive, but not cabled up):
Average Speed: 221.15%
Video Frames: 5015
Audio Samples: 8895622
Amount of Data: 34000 KB
Bench. Time: 1:30.708
Bench. Frame Rate: 55.29
Bench. Sample Rate: 98071
Bench. Data Rate: 3.0Mbit/s
Original Time: 3:20.599
Original Frame Rate: 25.00
Original Sample Rate: 44100
Original Data Rate: 1.3Mbit/s
I have no idea what is 'good' for this benchmark.
I haven't had 2003SE on this X50 for a long time, an don't feel like downgrading. I had good experiences with WM5 from the start. The only issue was it doing a hard reset once in a while, when running out juice (wasn't WM5+ supposed to stop that?).
-bZj