The Second Step: Porting XIP section.
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The First Step: Testing Tools. Completed!!!
WM5 A02 Modifed ROM - test it!
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I don't have device for testing and need your help. Test it!
You need Dell Axim X50 PDA with installed WM5 A02 ROM (with A02 Bootloader)!
Flashing:
1) Unpack files from archive into root of FAT32 SD-Card.
2) Insert the SD-Card into your Axim and start the SD Image Loader by Pressing Wireless + Power + Reset
3) The Image Loader will search for flash images on your SD-Card.
4) Press the action key twice, this starts the update process.
5) After the process is finished you will be asked to hard reset your device. Follow this instruction and wait for the OS to load.
Thank you! Can make a x51 ( not x51v) machine rom?
MagLite_RUS said:
First test ROM
I don't have device for testing and need your help. Test it!
You need Dell Axim X50 PDA with installed WM5 A02 ROM (with A02 Bootloader)!
Flashing:
1) Unpack files from archive into root of FAT32 SD-Card.
2) Insert the SD-Card into your Axim and start the SD Image Loader by Pressing Wireless + Power + Reset
3) The Image Loader will search for flash images on your SD-Card.
4) Press the action key twice, this starts the update process.
5) After the process is finished you will be asked to hard reset your device. Follow this instruction and wait for the OS to load.
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Holy Cow!!! Maglite, how the heck were you able to fix the broken modules??? I've been working for over 6 months on trying to fix it and I haven't found a fix yet. If I remember correctly for the X50v rom, you had someone help you. Who helped you fix the rom??? Although, I must say that you've been very helpful getting me started with a functional rom (without errors). Might I mention that this is apparently not for a X50(low).
Wow, just...
Talk about being blindsided. If this works, it gives me big hope for a possible WM6/6.1 for my extra x51 I've got. Been trying to get an x51v recently to finally get away from the x50v I keep using (damned NOR memory is just killing it), and I happened to find a nice x51 on Craig's List for cheap with some extra batteries and chargers and cradles too.
But wow... outstanding work, even if I don't have an x50 to test it out and offer bug reports.
Now I'm curious if someone can do an x51 WM6/6.1 ROM finally... this is very promising work, MagLite, and I for one thank you even so. Congrats...
I might be inclined to make a decent WM6 rom for X51 since Lenny has neglected to provide this (even though he did try a test rom).
Steven855 said:
I might be inclined to make a decent WM6 rom for X51 since Lenny has neglected to provide this (even though he did try a test rom).
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I build/make ROMs for more devices than I can count now. And it helps to have a device. My WM6.1 problem on X51 is an XIP problem, and I hate trying to troubleshoot that problem without a device close at hand. My upload is too slow (50kbps) to keep upping ROMs for ppl to test. I'd love to release one, it's easy to build them, just testing is hard without a device! You get me a device, and I can have you a ROM within the week! I did the same for the X50v.
Nice release Mag!
I would gladly donate my X50 (Mid) for dev purposes, if it were to come back to me with a fancy WM6/6.1 ROM when it is done. It is currently on A02, I believe - fresh from a reset.
As long as it'll be back within... say, 6 months. PM and we'll talk.
-bZj
x51 can use?
First rom dont works.
Frezzes on loading xip.
I'm working on it...
ok!
The First Step: Testing Tools.
WM5 A02 Modifed ROM - test it!
I need your help!
MagLite_RUS said:
ok!
The First Step: Testing Tools.
WM5 A02 Modifed ROM - test it!
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Do you mean to test this ROM or install your original 6.1 ROM after installing this?
brat1475 said:
Do you mean to test this ROM or install your original 6.1 ROM after installing this?
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Test this rom. First beta of WM6.1 don't works, frezzing on booting xip section.
The WM A02 modifed ROM loaded sucessfully. The ROM responds much faster than the other WM5 ROMs I have tried. So far, I have had no errors or freezes. Wifi and bluetooth work as well. Is there anything specific in the ROM you would like me to check?
Thanks for a working base Maglite. Now I can really do some major rom building (time permitting when away from school). Next, I need a working rom base for the X50(low) WM5 A02 rom.
I'm trying to update my Axim now....
I'll report back in a few....
EDIT: Back, and nothing is smoking. Just WM5. Anything special I should play with?
-bZj
I would guess what MagLite wants to know is: would you say the performance is equal or better than using WM2003SE on it, the factory ROM?
Have you tried any video playback using TCPMP or whatever to make sure it's functional (a benchmark would come in handy too, it's accessed from File - Benchmark and then play a minute or two of video and report the results listed for Average Speed at the top of the list of statistics would come in handy.
If you can/could run that pre-WM5 ROM it would tell him/us the difference in performance between the ROMs, at least in terms of video playback which tends to be the most demanding thing a PDA can really do.
It's what I use as the baseline for testing on my own PDAs...
I don't think you can test the WM5 A02 rom fairly, because Maglite hasn't fixed the biggest problem that's been plagueing WM5 on the X50 series since the beginning.
You can't fix something that technically isn't broken, yanno. The x50 series has NOR type memory, that's how it was designed, that's how it works, and once you accept that you'll come to realize it's not broken: they work exactly as they're designed to work. The x51 series uses NAND, so Dell went back to the drawing board and improved that aspect of their PDAs. Sure, I'd love to have an x51v, but so far I've never found one for a price I could afford (I keep finding x50v models for $100 or less, but the x51v is always $175 or more, pisses me off).
So no, there's nothing MagLite, or Lenny, or Microsoft, or even Dell at this point can "do" for the x50 series because technically they work perfectly as designed.
Having said that, if MagLite can get his x50v WM6 A02 ROM and find the 0 pagepool mod for it (like the way Zeus_Alex modded that specific ROM), and then apply that (the 0 pagepool mod) to that x50 WM6 or 6.1 ROM above (note I'm being specific here and talking about the x50 ROM) then we could end up with an x50 WM6/6.1 ROM that's just as fast and snappy as the x50v ROM I'm using on my x50v right now.
I have a spare x50 and an x51 - the non-VGA non-Intel graphics Axims and I'd love to get WM6 on them, I just don't have the time to modify and cook ROMs, so I appreciate the effort these folks like MagLite, Lenny, and all the others put into creating ROMs.
So, MagLite... I think if this x50 ROM works (I haven't had a chance to test it, might not be able to do it since my x50 and x51 are in storage and I'm pretty busy these days, can't make the trip to the storage place), and you can make that 0 pagepool edit for it, I'll bet the performance improves dramatically.
Your WM6 A02 ROM for the x50v with Zeus_Alex making the 0pp edit gives me the best performance of any ROM I've ever used on my x50v, even faster than WM2003SE, and even with the known filesys.exe issue. It's just wicked evil fast and the battery life is fantastic, and I really can't say why. All I know is it works and it's hella fast, period.
Thanks, and have fun, always...
Done (with AS alive, but not cabled up):
Average Speed: 221.15%
Video Frames: 5015
Audio Samples: 8895622
Amount of Data: 34000 KB
Bench. Time: 1:30.708
Bench. Frame Rate: 55.29
Bench. Sample Rate: 98071
Bench. Data Rate: 3.0Mbit/s
Original Time: 3:20.599
Original Frame Rate: 25.00
Original Sample Rate: 44100
Original Data Rate: 1.3Mbit/s
I have no idea what is 'good' for this benchmark.
I haven't had 2003SE on this X50 for a long time, an don't feel like downgrading. I had good experiences with WM5 from the start. The only issue was it doing a hard reset once in a while, when running out juice (wasn't WM5+ supposed to stop that?).
-bZj
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Hello there, yes... I'm a n00b when it comes to ROM upgrades.
I'm relatively experienced when it comes to computers and PDA's, but browsing through this forum, I have to admin, I'm lost...
I have an Orange M5000, locked to Orange (I think). Can anyone give me some simple steps of what I should do to upgrade to the latest and fastest ROM version? (I'm currently on 1.30.90 - R1.09.00).
Help would be much appreciated.
**EDIT** Okay, so the instructions are these ones right -
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tion On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method
But what ROM should I be using? Thanks.
You might want to try the link at
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Upgrades
at Orange UK for the proper way of upgrading to the official ROM, which is an EXE file. That's the easiest.
If you want to get going with the newest ROM's (and are prepared to take the associated risks!) then my recommendation for the process you should follow is this...
First, download the tool at: http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=100&func=fileinfo&id=288
Follow the instructions in the .rar file. This will SIM unlock your M5000 so that you can use any SIM card in it, but also makes your M5000 "SuperCID" - Meaning that you can upgrade to ANY HTC Universal ROM (QTek, O2, imate, etc, etc) without all the hassle!
Then:
1) Download whichever ROM you're interested in
2) Put your M5000 in bootloader mode (by holding the Backlight and Power buttons while poking the reset button).
3) Connect your USB cable to your phone and PC
4) From your downloaded (and extracted) ROM archive you need to run "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe" or "ROMUpgradeUt.exe" - whichever was included - it won't matter because your device is "SuperCID" so you wont get any of the Country or Device errors that people often complain about.
Wait for 5 minutes while it all ticks along, do a hard reset, and you're all done!
You may find that your device still installs a load of unneeded cab files after the initial setup. This is because of the "Extended Rom" area where manufacturers put all of their own modifications.
You can use the tool found here: http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=100&func=fileinfo&id=205 to unlock the "Extended ROM" and the cab files found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=985428&postcount=373 to make it visible within File Explorer.
Then you can delete any (or every) file that's in there. I'd strongly recommend deleting everything if you'll be trying out an AKU3.X or WM6 ROM.
Okay, but I think Orange are a bit behind things...
I was about to try 2.04 PDAVIET UNI PRO. Is this a bad idea for me?
**EDIT** To the second reply, thanks, I'll give that a go
Basically, don't try using any Crossbow ROMs if you need your device for anything important. They're far too flakey at the moment (even the half decent ones).
Go for an AKU3.3 ROM for stability and speed (or possibly AKU3.5 - though they're a little bit buggier).
Crossbow ROMs will get better. Come back for that in a month or two (or three....four.....)
I wouldn't say I do use it for anything important... 1 or 2 calls a day (not business) SatNav once or twice a month. The calendar and ListPro are probably the most used things on my PDA...
Speed is what's annoying me at the moment though. It takes so long to redraw the screen when I spin it for example.
Where can I find an AKU3.3 download then?
Sorry, work tore me away from the forum for a while...
Go here: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Universal/Cooked_ROMs/
There are four folders in there where you'll find a mixture of AKU3.2, 3.3, and 3.5 ROMs by Helmi, Ivan, JWright, and Indra. Personally, I like stripped down ROM's so my own favourite is Helmi's V1.3.1 ROM.
There are plenty of other opinions if you look at the related threads though...
Helmi: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284887
Indra: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285488
Ivan: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287270
JWright: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279258
If you have a look at the first (and possibly second) post in each of those threads, you can see what's in the ROM and what isn't. Take your pick. As far as speed goes, you will find all of them are noticably faster than any of the official Orange ROMs.
I've actually successfully installed WM6. It's a lot quicker than WM5, so I'm happy
Yep, WM6 is a lot faster than the official WM5 ROM's.
The WM5 "AKU3.X" ROM's are even faster though and - for now at least - generally less buggy...
Looking at how you say you use your phone, you shouldn't find too much to worry about with WM6 - even this early on (and it looks nicer!).
Glad it went ok for you!
Sub69, Thanks, thanks, thanks!!! My problem was solved with the backlight + power + hard reset... A million thanks friend.
Looking to become a regular member here. With a little time hope I can contribute something meaningful as well
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Short answer: No. Why would there be?
Also "My axim" says a lot about the device... Is it an X5, X3, X30, X50 or X51, if its an X51 theres a chance Dell will release a Crossbow upgrade.
an X51 mid. I heard you can do it aslong as you hex edit the rom to make it look like wm5. arrrg i just want a decent MSN messenger unlike the **** pocket msn and live messenger BETA which dont work.
Is there anyway i can flash it with a Wm6 Rom? i get to the point where the updater is checking device info then activesync stops working. Any help would be great!
Thanks,
Kurt
I don't think you picked up on my point that its not possible currently, it would be missing to many drivers for the Axim so even if you did manage to flash it you would probably have a nice brick. Also the way the ROM interfaces with the bootloader ROM would be different on each device.
ok thanks for that i was just wondering if it was possible. Thanks for your help!
Kurt
i need a file to flash my axim x50
can any help i need a file and intruction on how to flash my axim x50
I am sure there are alot of X50 (not V) users who would like to have such an update.
If someone know about ROM files which are suited - that would be great.
Thanks in advance.
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XDA-Developers
Maybe this is a dumb question, but still...
As far as I know the main difference between the X50 and the X50v is the VGA screen (and speed of CPU - 624MHz). If this is true, how difficult can it be to convert the already working WM6 for X50v to X50?
Maybe some of the developers can share this issue with us???
Thanks in advance.
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gellish said:
XDA-Developers
Maybe this is a dumb question, but still...
As far as I know the main difference between the X50 and the X50v is the VGA screen (and speed of CPU - 624MHz). If this is true, how difficult can it be to convert the already working WM6 for X50v to X50?
Maybe some of the developers can share this issue with us???
Thanks in advance.
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Someone with an X50 would have to develop the ROM because the bootloader and ROM images have differences between the X50 and X50v. I *think* (unless I'm forgetting about any prior discussion over this question) the only thing holding X50 back from WM6 is the lack of a ROM developer who actually owns an X50 as opposed to an X50v. As far as I know, MagLite only has X50v(s), so he could not develop an X50 ROM. You might ask him if he'd be kind enough to develop an X50 ROM, assuming that someone would be willing to donate an X50 to him. Just a thought. Sorry I don't have any better news for you all.
Thanks cavyman for your note.
Still I do not understand:
Since the HW is more or less the same (except CPU clock and maybe a graphical processor), the bootloader should be the same (I do not think the HW is to be changed for the bootloader).
As for the ROM itself, I guess you are using an emulator for the X50v and recompiling the WM6 sources to this platform (you need the real HW just for checking if this is working in the REAL world...), so if this is the situation, can someone share the sources and the emulator and maybe someone from the communitiy will be able to recompile it and test it...
I am not sure I have enough knowledge for this, but I may try...
Am I correct???
no i dont believe they use emulators as emulators dont emulate the hardware
and it all comes down to drivers
just 1 diff in a driver and it dont boot
just 1 diff in the memery map in the bootloader and it dont boot (may even turn into a brick)
Rudegar said:
no i dont believe they use emulators as emulators dont emulate the hardware
and it all comes down to drivers
just 1 diff in a driver and it dont boot
just 1 diff in the memery map in the bootloader and it dont boot (may even turn into a brick)
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Exactly! One given difference is the video driver. I suppose if you could extract the driver from an X50 ROM and port it into the X50v ROM, there could be a chance of getting it to work. However, the fact still remains that memory mapping is probably different. I am not sure why someone else hasn't ported WM6 to X50, but I also don't know of a WM5 ROM for X50. I'm guessing there has to be a very good reason why someone hasn't been able to do it yet.
yes believe much of the driver foundation was changed with wm5 over wm2003 so few wm2003 driver can be used at all
many wm5 drivers seem to be usefull for tayloring wm6's though
Anyone with a x50 can customize it's rom to a WM6 one. You need to updrade to WM5 last level of rom, than dump the rom to gets it's WM5 nb0. Once you have the nb0, you can customize it using the tools available in stickies from Bepe and Mamaich. For an x51, it's even easier because you can get your nb0 with the img2nb0 tool.
Dear makuu,
Can you please elaborate on this suggestion?
I have X50 with WM5 A02 (which is the last one I know was officially out...).
Suppose I can extract the ROM out of it (nb0 file), this is still WM5 not WM6... So how can I convert it to WM6?
Don't I need the sources of WM6 or something???
You get the nb0 like mentioned here:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/x50-...w-create-your-own-flash-images-your-axim.html
Than you use the rom editing tool from stickies here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260 (those from Mamaich and Bepe).
You can first try to edit the existing WM6 ROM from Maglite, to have an idea but I guess that you can just take the appropriate files from his rom. You also need to work on xip like explained here:
http://www.pxdxa.com/read.php?tid=40125
Buy from ebay
What about this guys:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190161254388
Hi,
landaleav, IMO, I would not trust this seller as I would think if there was a rom for the X50, it would be available here.
As it is not here, I would use caution when buying on Ebay.
I am contacting the seller to check if this is really for X50 mid range...
I think it worth 5$ to check this...
I will post my experience, but if someone has already was in touch with him - please let us know.
I am contacting the seller to check if this is really for X50 mid range...
I think it worth 5$ to check this...
I will post my experience, but if someone has already was in touch with him - please let us know.
Ebay has X50V rather than X50
Guys,
currently, it seems that those sellers have the X50V verison and not the X50 (midrange).
I asked the file list of their delivery and found out that (according to the file name) it is for X50V...
If I'll have new news - I will post them...
i recently purchases a Dell Axim X50v, and i have upgraded it to windows mobile 5 AO2. i want to upgrade it to WM6 AO1. i want the SDHC card support. can someone help me out, i'm new to the site, and can't seem to find it. also is wm6 stable to run on axim x50v, cause if it is going to harm my device i'd rather not upgrade it.
There is always a risk associated with upgrading your ROM. Be sure to use the correct ROM, not a ROM for the x50 or the x51 or the x51v. I believe the ROM you are looking for was created by Maglite and is located in this section of the forums. Just scroll down a little it may have been pushed to the second page. This would be the place to inquier about the stability of the ROM, and there should also be instructions for flashing your device.
i found a the maglite rom but it wouldnt download could someone post a link to the one that works, and i have no idea what flashing means
Hi:
I ma new here, but not new to the site. Like a lot of others I have a Dell X51v and want to update to WM6. Although I have an extensive computer background, I have very little in the way of Pocket PC's.
To make a long story short, where can I obtain a reliable version of wm6? I understand Football had one, but has been superceded by another.
Many thanks in adance to any repsonses.
Tony
awparran said:
Hi:
I ma new here, but not new to the site. Like a lot of others I have a Dell X51v and want to update to WM6. Although I have an extensive computer background, I have very little in the way of Pocket PC's.
To make a long story short, where can I obtain a reliable version of wm6? I understand Football had one, but has been superceded by another.
Many thanks in adance to any repsonses.
Tony
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Look for footbal rom here in xda or for lennySh here http://forum.htcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=17
Note you can found wm6 roms and wm6.1 rom
to flash your ppc read a tutorial before and understand "the risks" (i've flashed more than 20 times without problem)
You'll need a SD card (bootlaoder need a SD not a CF or a SDHC)
Format it to fat32
copy the two rom files (more or less 40mb)
push the power and wireless button of your ppc (maintain two to four sec.)
! be sure you have more enought battery (20min)!
folow the instructions (very simple)
note: flashing a rom remove EVERYTHING on your ppc so backup your document and application (personnaly i always install app on SD or CF)
NO NOT TRY to restore a backup from old rom (even if sprite backup seems to work) or you'll probably import old registry entry wich are not the best
hope i helped you!