Hey guys,
I was wondering if it is at all possible to have a rom installed on a device that is not specific to factory standards i.e. T-Mobile or other rom on a SPV M5000(orange), or an Orange rom on a MDA pro(T-Mobile)?
If so, could there be any difficulties occurring from this action? And what is the procedure involved in this process?
thank you.
The procedure is simple: Flash The ROM(for more instructions on doing this, please use search)!
As for factory standards, use only a ROM compiled for your device class, nothing else will work. What you mentioned(T-mobile ROM on an Orange device), are carrier differences. Carriers only change the default theme, and maybe add some programs, which will vanish during the flash. Otherwise, they just sell the same hardware, with different software.
Flashing a new ROM on top of this will cause no problems, except for invalidating your warranty. Whether this is worth it for you or not, you will have to decide for yourself.
Difficulties: only the general difficulties during a flashing procedure. You can find ways and ways to deal with them on this forum, just use search!
Hope this cleared it up for you, and good luck with the process!
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Hi,
So i just got my MDA compact III (HTC Artemis) and I have noticed that people upgrade them to windows mobile 6.
Unfortunatley this is my first WM phone so I don't understand all these technical terms (ROM, Cooking, CID etc)
can anyone help me? is it worth upgrading? how do i back all my info up? what happens if it goes wrong?
thanks in advance.
COngrats on your new phone.
It is always worth it to upgrade to WM6.
There are 2 kinds of locks: CID and SIM.
SIM locks prevent you from using say a TMO phone on ATT.
CID unlocks prevent you from flashing a new ROM (like a wm6 distribution)
You can use some backup utility to well, back up. Search the forum for one.
If something goes wrong, you can just reflash the RUU, which stands for ROM Upgrade Utility. It has the "default" rom that you get from your new phone.
Thanks. This helped a lot.
Where do I get the WM6 distributions from? how do I install?
does the RUU come with the phone or do I download it from somewhere?
With all due respect to fzzyrn IT IS NOT ALWAYS WORTH UPGRADING!
Since this is your first WM phone and you just got it you should take a few weeks and get to know it.
There rule to follow here is: if it is not broken do not fix it!
WM 6 has only a few small new features (major one being HTML email support) which you may find you do not need.
First thing you need to do is to read the WiKi. You will find detailed explanation about terms like ROM, CID and SIM unlocking there.
Then if you are still determined to upgrade you should be aware of the following risks:
1) If you bought your phone through a cell company changing ROM even to an official version from HTC will void your warranty!
2) You must take care and read the instructions that come with the update you are using. Preforming update incorrectly, having battery run out or phone disconnected from your computer will result in a "bricked" (unusable) device!
3) Some WM 6 ROMs, change your device hardware ID. If you have purchased any programs that lock on to that ID during registration they will stop working.
Now for your phone there are two options:
1) Official update on HTC site (if I am not mistaking should be out already, but I am not sure)
2) "Cooked" or unofficial ROMs. Look for instructions in Artemis forum.
Keep in mind that ROMs are device specific. There is no such thing as generic / universal ROM.
Also keep in mind that various ROM versions including official WM 6 have different bugs. There is no answer to which is best or a guarantee that you like any of them better than your original WM 5 ROM.
Alright... I've pretty much lurked around here for the past month or so, reading everything I can about the subject, but I still have a few questions I haven't been able to find answers too.
1- If I flash my rom... will a hard reset return it to the original firmware, or whatever I flashed with? If not, is it possible for me to backup my original Telus firmware before flashing?
2- As noted above, I'm on Telus, but I see most roms are based upon Sprint, is this a problem?
3- What are the real advantages, honestly. I know picking and choosing your apps and such, "de-branding" the phone, but is there any performance enhancements, new features, etc?
Thanks for the time, and I appologize if this has been asked before. I did use the search button, I swear =D
Hi,
I too have a similar query. I tried finding it using the search function, but was unsuccessful in finding out how to backup my O2 XDA Trion ROM, as well as how to go ahead with installing a new one (an english ROM on a German XDA). Any tip will be helpful. In the meantime, I will go ahead and search some more. Thanks.
Depending on which rom you choose, you will be replacing the firmware on your phone. So if you ever want to go back, you will need to re-flash with the OE data/file.
OE roms consist primarily of 6 things:
1. SPL/bootloader
2. Radio
3. First splash screen
4. Second splash screen
5. Operating System
6. Extended Rom (carrier customizations)
Typically, to unlock a device, you will replace the bootloader with a hacked version that allows you to install roms that were not signed by the manufacturer for your device.
Most of the roms you'll find floating around are just OS and ExtRom updates, although some also include the radio. The splash screen is fairly irrelevant, and some cooks will replace it, while others don't even bother.
BobSlob said:
...1- If I flash my rom... will a hard reset return it to the original firmware, or whatever I flashed with? If not, is it possible for me to backup my original Telus firmware before flashing?...
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alright, as for backing up your telus rom, be sure to check out dcd's vogue rom thread here, the last page says for you to pm him, and he will help you out there. there may now be one on the ftp however, since at least two others have already requested that he help them with the rom dump.
and no, a hard-reset will not restore your rom to the original. flashing your phone goes farther than a hard reset, and that is sort of one of the beauties of a custom rom as well; you can hard-reset at any time (to clear out footprints, screwed up files/reg keys/etc...) and not have to worry about installing all your apps again, re-setting up your email, re-editing your registry...etc.
hope that helps a slight little bit.
okay, guys, I have a few question that I am hoping it can be answered before I advernture ito flashing my rom.
First of all, I relaly appreaciate all of the people who work so hard getting the rom updated. You guys rocks.
Now, this is the first time I am going to flash to my tilt 2. As I have read the flashing the GSM phone guide (which I am hoping that's the guide I should be following to flash). I am just a bit confused as to how to do it.
It appears to me that I must flash the SPL unlocker in order to flash to the any rom am I correct? Just curious what exactly does it do? If I flash it, would tehre be any issue if I decided to go back to the original rom. I saw that at HTC's site, they have stock rom for ATT phone (http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/)so if I want to go back, can I just use that file and flash it back? Or I need to flash to a diff HardSPL? before I can use it?
Also, i am curious as to are there any program that will let me keep all of the settings and stuff up to date. in my past where I have the hp's ipaq. I had a tool where after I flash teh rom or do a hardreset, I can run that tool to revert all of the program and configurations (of course, I had a backup file first).
Let me just double check:
basically
1-hardspl
2-rom
3-all set
again, my phone is ATT tilt 2, I would really appreciate any information.
The SPL is kind of similar to the BIOS in your computer; it performs very low-level functions, and functions as a bootloader, among other things. The SPL is responsible for flashing new ROMs to the device, and the SPL that comes on your device won't let you flash ROMs not signed by HTC. HardSPL is a patched SPL that removes this ROM signature check, allowing any ROM, official or custom, to be flashed. The way HardSPL is designed also makes it more difficult (though not impossible!) to brick your device.
If you ever want to restore your original SPL (for warranty purposes,etc.) there are a few threads which explain how to do this, and the HardSPL thread has all the SPLs available for download. If you flash the package from AT&T, your ROM will be the original ROM, but the SPL will still be HardSPL, which isn't okay if you're returning the device for warranty purposes since they check for that. As I said, there are a few threads which have full tutorials for restoring your AT&T Tilt2 to stock.
For backup, there are tons of solutions out there such as the User Customization types (XDA User Customization and Sashami), as well as the full backup and restore suites (Sprite backup, SPB backup). I've automated everything on my device with XDA User Customization, so I don't know much about the full backup and restore suites, though a backup and restore suite might be more what you're looking for based on your description.
Lastly, you have the order of flashing correct. Optionally, you can flash a radio ROM later on, but if this is your first time flashing, you might want to wait awhile until you're more comfortable with flashing.
OMGHAX 900th post!
I'm thinking about flashing a cooked rom to my TP2 and before i take the plunge i want to check that i understand what has to be done
firstly i am not sure how to identify which type of Rhodium i have. its an orange UK handset.
once i have determined this i need to use the relevant hardSPL utility. am i correct in thinking that this simply enables you to install non official roms to the device? does it leave the existing rom intact or do i need to flash the new rom before the device can be used?
flashing the rom looks pretty straight forward, remove sim & sd card, sync with activesync / wmdc, run the custom rom.exe when complete power down device and replace sim & sd card, power on. anything i've got wrong here?
Finally i'd like to know a little about radio roms. is there a definative best one to use? what benefits are there in different radio roms?
Thanks in advance.
Ryan.
deejayry said:
I'm thinking about flashing a cooked rom to my TP2 and before i take the plunge i want to check that i understand what has to be done
firstly i am not sure how to identify which type of Rhodium i have. its an orange UK handset.
once i have determined this i need to use the relevant hardSPL utility. am i correct in thinking that this simply enables you to install non official roms to the device? does it leave the existing rom intact or do i need to flash the new rom before the device can be used?
flashing the rom looks pretty straight forward, remove sim & sd card, sync with activesync / wmdc, run the custom rom.exe when complete power down device and replace sim & sd card, power on. anything i've got wrong here?
Finally i'd like to know a little about radio roms. is there a definative best one to use? what benefits are there in different radio roms?
Thanks in advance.
Ryan.
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there are whole threads dedicated to most of these questions.
please, take the time to use the forums search function.
it helps the fine staff at xda from answering the same questions over and over and over and over and over and over and over....
gets repetitious, and annoying.
so now that youve learned something new, make use of it and hopefully youll have a newly flashed rom within the next 10 mins
deejayry said:
I'm thinking about flashing a cooked rom to my TP2 and before i take the plunge i want to check that i understand what has to be done
firstly i am not sure how to identify which type of Rhodium i have. its an orange UK handset.
once i have determined this i need to use the relevant hardSPL utility. am i correct in thinking that this simply enables you to install non official roms to the device? does it leave the existing rom intact or do i need to flash the new rom before the device can be used?
flashing the rom looks pretty straight forward, remove sim & sd card, sync with activesync / wmdc, run the custom rom.exe when complete power down device and replace sim & sd card, power on. anything i've got wrong here?
Finally i'd like to know a little about radio roms. is there a definative best one to use? what benefits are there in different radio roms?
Thanks in advance.
Ryan.
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Go to the ROM Development forum and check the "Flashing ROM ... for NOOBs" thread. I think your answers will be there. The radio is flashed separately and will not affect the underlying ROM.
deejayry said:
firstly i am not sure how to identify which type of Rhodium i have. its an orange UK handset.
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That's GSM I believe. Remove the battery, and it will show the model number under it: RHOD100, RHOD200, etc. Search on these forums to see which is which (I don't know off hand).
deejayry said:
once i have determined this i need to use the relevant hardSPL utility. am i correct in thinking that this simply enables you to install non official roms to the device? does it leave the existing rom intact or do i need to flash the new rom before the device can be used?
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You are correct, all it does is unlock the SPL, and allows the flashing of ROMs other than the official one(s) released by your carrier. Your ROM remains intact.
deejayry said:
flashing the rom looks pretty straight forward, remove sim & sd card, sync with activesync / wmdc, run the custom rom.exe when complete power down device and replace sim & sd card, power on. anything i've got wrong here?
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Yep, that's pretty much it. Be sure to read the n00b guide, make sure your phone is charged over 50% for each step, don't let your PC go to sleep, etc.
Also running Task29 is optional, but highly recommended before you flash you new ROM. It wipes/formats the memory, so you won't have any remnants of the old ROM remaining (which might cause random bugs). See the Task29 stickied thread in the ROM forum.
deejayry said:
Finally i'd like to know a little about radio roms. is there a definative best one to use? what benefits are there in different radio roms?
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No, there is no definitive best radio. The newest ones are sometimes the best. But it can be geographically dependent as well. It might take some trial and error to find the best radio for you (which gives the best reception and battery life for your area).
If your TP2 is GSM, than its easy to flash a new radio, it only take a minute or so, and it leaves the rest of the ROM intact, so you can easily try various radios to find the best one for you.
I currently have a touch pro 2 with the stock sprint winmo 6.1 rom.
This thing is starting to lag and causes me to delete alot of messages
that i really don't want to.
I have downloaded a copy of the energy rom and the sprint 6.5 rom
but really have no idea what to do with them. I have read about
the hard spl and that if things are not done right, you can brick
the phone. Not trying to do much with it except get it to move
a little faster without the freeze.
Help please!!!
Firstly, you need to understand that flashing a new ROM will overwrite everything saved on your device's internal memory. If you have games, documents, or anything else of value on the internal memory, you'll need to back it up before you flash. Micosoft My Phone is a good way to backup contacts, SMS, and other personal data on your device.
After backing everything up, you'll need to prepare your device to accept an unsigned ROM. Keep in mind that flashing a new ROM VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY. There is no need to ever tell your carrier about it, though, and restoring it to factory conditions if you ever need to send it in is a piece of cake. Just don't go flashing a new ROM and show it off in your carrier's stores, because I guarantee you that they will block you from your warranty.
Now, you'll need to go over to the CDMA Hard SPL thread and follow the instructions there to put the Hard SPL on your device. You can't do anything until this is done. Hard SPL overwrites the SPL on your device and allows you to flash unsigned ROMs, radios, and other things that your carrier frowns upon.
Once that is done, you'll want to go on over to the CDMA task29 thread and run that tool as directed. This erases and formats your internal memory and prepares your device to accept a fresh new ROM. Only use the task29 tool with the files it comes with. Never swap out any part of it, unless you feel like messing something up.
Following the task29, you are now free to flash which ever ROM or radio you desire. Make sure you read the information presented in the threads of the ROMs you may choose. Many contain valuable information that will answer most of your questions.
You have a lot of reading ahead of you to understand how this all works. I strongly urge you to do some research into what you are doing and read the instructions carefully in each thread I've mentioned.
Lastly, make sure that everything you flash (ROMs, radios, et cetera) to your device is meant for a CDMA device. If your try to load something that is for a GSM device, you'll have yourself a shiny new paperweight on your hands.
Thanks for the info. Now if i want to flash to a new rom or update to 6.5 do i need to flash a new radio?
Dr.Ama said:
Thanks for the info. Now if i want to flash to a new rom or update to 6.5 do i need to flash a new radio?
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No, you do not. Use which ever radio works best for you.
Dr.Ama said:
Thanks for the info. Now if i want to flash to a new rom or update to 6.5 do i need to flash a new radio?
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no. you shallnt need to flash a new radio with the rom.
just remember.
as cajunflavoredbob said...
flash only...
cdma hardspl.
cdma task29.
cdma rom(s).
sh4d0w86.