okay, guys, I have a few question that I am hoping it can be answered before I advernture ito flashing my rom.
First of all, I relaly appreaciate all of the people who work so hard getting the rom updated. You guys rocks.
Now, this is the first time I am going to flash to my tilt 2. As I have read the flashing the GSM phone guide (which I am hoping that's the guide I should be following to flash). I am just a bit confused as to how to do it.
It appears to me that I must flash the SPL unlocker in order to flash to the any rom am I correct? Just curious what exactly does it do? If I flash it, would tehre be any issue if I decided to go back to the original rom. I saw that at HTC's site, they have stock rom for ATT phone (http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/)so if I want to go back, can I just use that file and flash it back? Or I need to flash to a diff HardSPL? before I can use it?
Also, i am curious as to are there any program that will let me keep all of the settings and stuff up to date. in my past where I have the hp's ipaq. I had a tool where after I flash teh rom or do a hardreset, I can run that tool to revert all of the program and configurations (of course, I had a backup file first).
Let me just double check:
basically
1-hardspl
2-rom
3-all set
again, my phone is ATT tilt 2, I would really appreciate any information.
The SPL is kind of similar to the BIOS in your computer; it performs very low-level functions, and functions as a bootloader, among other things. The SPL is responsible for flashing new ROMs to the device, and the SPL that comes on your device won't let you flash ROMs not signed by HTC. HardSPL is a patched SPL that removes this ROM signature check, allowing any ROM, official or custom, to be flashed. The way HardSPL is designed also makes it more difficult (though not impossible!) to brick your device.
If you ever want to restore your original SPL (for warranty purposes,etc.) there are a few threads which explain how to do this, and the HardSPL thread has all the SPLs available for download. If you flash the package from AT&T, your ROM will be the original ROM, but the SPL will still be HardSPL, which isn't okay if you're returning the device for warranty purposes since they check for that. As I said, there are a few threads which have full tutorials for restoring your AT&T Tilt2 to stock.
For backup, there are tons of solutions out there such as the User Customization types (XDA User Customization and Sashami), as well as the full backup and restore suites (Sprite backup, SPB backup). I've automated everything on my device with XDA User Customization, so I don't know much about the full backup and restore suites, though a backup and restore suite might be more what you're looking for based on your description.
Lastly, you have the order of flashing correct. Optionally, you can flash a radio ROM later on, but if this is your first time flashing, you might want to wait awhile until you're more comfortable with flashing.
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Alright... I've pretty much lurked around here for the past month or so, reading everything I can about the subject, but I still have a few questions I haven't been able to find answers too.
1- If I flash my rom... will a hard reset return it to the original firmware, or whatever I flashed with? If not, is it possible for me to backup my original Telus firmware before flashing?
2- As noted above, I'm on Telus, but I see most roms are based upon Sprint, is this a problem?
3- What are the real advantages, honestly. I know picking and choosing your apps and such, "de-branding" the phone, but is there any performance enhancements, new features, etc?
Thanks for the time, and I appologize if this has been asked before. I did use the search button, I swear =D
Hi,
I too have a similar query. I tried finding it using the search function, but was unsuccessful in finding out how to backup my O2 XDA Trion ROM, as well as how to go ahead with installing a new one (an english ROM on a German XDA). Any tip will be helpful. In the meantime, I will go ahead and search some more. Thanks.
Depending on which rom you choose, you will be replacing the firmware on your phone. So if you ever want to go back, you will need to re-flash with the OE data/file.
OE roms consist primarily of 6 things:
1. SPL/bootloader
2. Radio
3. First splash screen
4. Second splash screen
5. Operating System
6. Extended Rom (carrier customizations)
Typically, to unlock a device, you will replace the bootloader with a hacked version that allows you to install roms that were not signed by the manufacturer for your device.
Most of the roms you'll find floating around are just OS and ExtRom updates, although some also include the radio. The splash screen is fairly irrelevant, and some cooks will replace it, while others don't even bother.
BobSlob said:
...1- If I flash my rom... will a hard reset return it to the original firmware, or whatever I flashed with? If not, is it possible for me to backup my original Telus firmware before flashing?...
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alright, as for backing up your telus rom, be sure to check out dcd's vogue rom thread here, the last page says for you to pm him, and he will help you out there. there may now be one on the ftp however, since at least two others have already requested that he help them with the rom dump.
and no, a hard-reset will not restore your rom to the original. flashing your phone goes farther than a hard reset, and that is sort of one of the beauties of a custom rom as well; you can hard-reset at any time (to clear out footprints, screwed up files/reg keys/etc...) and not have to worry about installing all your apps again, re-setting up your email, re-editing your registry...etc.
hope that helps a slight little bit.
Hi all
please dont flame the n00b. I have recently acquired my first smartphone the diamond and am very pleased with it. I have read through the threads and have developed my understanding of the considerations to make in flashing the ROM on my phone
I have an early version of the ROM as I received one of the first stock into the UK, which turned out to be grey imports from hong kong :S . I would like to realise some of the speed / battery / bugfix benefits of the newest ROM
however many of these threads are quite long , so i was wondering if someone could do me a favour by succintcly summarising the steps i would need :
my phone is runnning :
1.34.831.1 WWE - the unit is from hong kong i beleive, i have registered on HTC HK e-club
I would like to upgrage this is the latest signed UK ROM ?
If this is not possible can advice be given on going to the latest HK WWE ?
I understand this will involve changing the HARD SPL ?
Additionally can any method provided be confirmed as a reversible process should i need to invoke the warranty ?
thanks in advance for your help.
please let me know if you need any further information form me in order to help.
thanks
1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer HK stock roms, they've been posted by tudispin I think.
3: flash
4: should need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.
you should be able to flash back for warranty purposes.. safest thing is still to dump your current ROM (search the forums and wiki for how-to), but i think you'll be alright. You can check out my site for step-by-step instructions on how to upgrade your ROM
thanks so far
just for help so far
your guide looks great racerx_
so i should be able to do the following tonight
1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer UK? stock roms,
3: flash
4: and should the need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.
once the hardspl is loaded am i correct in thinking any ROM can be loaded ?
oh but
dump my current ROM before proceeding .. just in case
porkmince said:
just for help so far
your guide looks great racerx_
so i should be able to do the following tonight
1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer UK? stock roms,
3: flash
4: and should the need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.
once the hardspl is loaded am i correct in thinking any ROM can be loaded ?
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yeah you should technically be able to load any ROM... if signed Hard-SPL, then only any signed ROM of course
hit a slight problem
So i am tryiong to HARD SPL. have gone through all the instructions but :
when installint the HARD SPL . the phone screen switches off the progress bar on PC sits at )% for about 20 sec it then accelerates to 100% very quickly within around 2 mins. It say that is is installed correctly
however the phone restarts and i can still see the d: as 1.34.00.00
so the loinex 1.3 has not installed
the windows is hard reset as i then have to go through the screen calibration
any help appreciated
HardSPL is not the ROM, just software to enable the update
once you installed HardSPL you should now be able to install a ROM
hi
yes sorry for the confusion in my past previous description. It is the HARD SPL software update which says that it is installed but isnt
i have not attempted to load another ROM until this is done first
any further advice ?
in essence when installing the olinex 1.30 i get no errors
bit it doesnt install and all i get is a hard reset ?
If it goes through OK, it has installed You don't see anything different in the splash screen- that just lists the basics
To confirm, go into Bootloader mode by holding down the Volume Down Key and at the same time pressing the red reset button at the mouth of the stylus silo. It can take a few goes, but will show a rainbow screen listing the SPL etc, which ought to say 1.30 Olinex, confirming the correct SPL flash.
Once confirmed press the reset button to restart.
ok thanks for step by step advice there
the HARD SPL is loaded version 1.30 I will try a new ROM now
i am trying the :
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.37.707.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
which is signed so should work
mmm even though the phone is synced up I get error
"262" when i try to install new ROM
it basically stalls on 0% for about 4 to 5 mins before it aborts with this error message.
i have searched the forums but cannot see a succinct plausible answer
hmm.. i thought that error was usually encountered with unsigned ROMs...
1) are you flashing with xp or vista
2) are you connected through a USB hub?
3) what EXACTLY are your steps for flashing this ROM
hi there
yeas flashing through vista 64 bit
and not using USB hub but direct connection
I downloaded the signed 1.37.401.3 Europe ROM linked from this forum and this installed fine
the improvement over the old ROM is immense. so far i am delighted by the results.
I am still perplexed as to why the asian ROM did not install still :S
only difference so far is that this EUROP ROM does not have the remote desktop app
thanks for all your help. I am going to test this ROM over the coming week, but unless there is a compelling reason to another ROM i will stick with this
Why HARDSPL when flashing HTC rom?
When using the newer 1.37 roms, you download the installer from e-club, make activesync conn en go for it?
A noob's point of view
I got my Diamond about two weeks ago, and since I'm new to PDAs and WM, I've done a lot of reading on the forums, wiki etc. At first things were quite murky for me and I know what my fellow noob here is feeling. So I thought I should share my experience (or lack there of) for the use of other noobs.
What I Know
HardSPL is needed in order to flash a cooked (non original HTC) ROM. As I understand, it is the equivalent of BIOS for PCs, mixed with a bootloader flavor. You need to first change this section of software first in order for the cooked roms to be accepted.
HardSPL comes in two flavours:
- the developer edition with which you can flash any type of roms (signed, unsigned, original) link: HardSPL dev ed
- the signed edition with which you can flash signed roms (original HTC, and cooked signed). The signed ROM versions give an added sense of reliability since they are tested. link: HardSPL signed the topic name was confusing for me at first
A list of signed ROMs: here
There are more than one "cooks" out there working in teams or otherwise. And more than one ROM you can flash. I did a lot of reading before I chose the one to use, I find user feedback the best measuring tool for quality .
Now for the flashing part
After you downloaded the HardSPL and the chosen ROM, you need to install ActiveSync. This is found on the CDs that come with the device, or downloadable fromo the M$ ****e aaaa site ActiveSync is a tool used for transferring contacts, e-mails and other outlook stuff if you use it, files, AND is needed for the flashing process. When installing, if you do not use outlook and do not like "syncronisation folders" on your desktop uncheck every "folder" option, you will be better off.
This site was very useful to me since it gave a detailed description flashing with visual documentation which (a bit uncomfortable to admit) was very helpful for me.
The HardSPL flash takes little time to complete and unless going into bootloader mode (vol down + soft reset) is completely transparent to the user.
The ROM flash takes longer 10 mins - they go by pretty slowly .
For safety reasons, I also downloaded an original HTC ROM just in case.
Because the flashing process once started SHOULD NOT be stopped there are a few things to consider:
- charge the battery
- firmly and directly (no hubs) plug the USB cable into computer and device.
- if you live in an area where power cuts are often consider doing the flashing on an UPS-enabled computer.
When the flashing finishes, the device will reboot and you will have to set-up again. If using TLRs ROM do not panic if you have to align the screen 6 times or so as I did. You will eventually get to the next step
What I don't know or am not sure of:
- when using signed HardSPL can I load an original HTC signed ROM? if so, is this enough in case of RMA issues?
- when reflashing with a newer/different ROM can I restore a back-up made with the previous ROM? I'm using sprite and I backed up everything, including what registry stuff it offered to. In this case, do i need to reapply the registry tweaks? dunno if sprite backs-up all the registry or just some of it.
Im must thank guys for this thread, i am minutes from going to the postal office to get my Diamond and this weekend has been full of information reading and program downloading, but the only thing i was a bit hung up on was this flashig buisness. Of course i know a lot about flashing ( Right about everything there is to flash ) but almost nothing about Phone Flashing
But i think i will try the version i get now first to see if i feel the need to update to anything else...
Hence my question is rather simple... How tha fack do i see what version i already have? >_< is it that (vol down + soft reset) thing? or am i way out of place?
thx.
Reb0rn said:
How tha fack do i see what version i already have? >_< is it that (vol down + soft reset) thing? or am i way out of place?
thx.
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No, that is for HardSPL info. To see the ROM version, go to settings - device info and you'll see both ROM and radio.
Hi there
So, i've been reading a lot about flashing and upgrading with roms. I want to upgrade my 6.0 to 6.5 but i'm scared that if something goes wrong my device will be ruined. Is there any way to recover a scrambled flash ?
Thanks a lot
if you read the wiki for the hermes you will see the ways to hopefully stop your phone becoming a brick, such as hard-spl and using the sd card method can also help, if youve get any more questions after reading the wiki pages just ask.
Have fun
Here you go: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeForBeginners
By the way, it is more risky to flash the radio part of the rom. This is where you really can brick your pda. Basically there is no need to flash the radio module as long as your hermes is "phoning" correctly.
All 6.1 and 6.5 proposed by our chefs are "radio free". If, as explained in the above link, you have installed HARDSPL, and if you use the SD card flashing method, you will be quite safe. (I did it... i do not remember how many times...and my hermes is still fine)
Just one think. Some roms are using a special trick to enlarge the capacity remaining for your applications. This is greath. But it mixes up a bit the structure of the memory of the hermes. Basically no problem with that as it is not permanent. But if you want to flash a new rom after this one, you will need to flash first an official rom (like the ATT stripped one - means: without the radio part - flying on this forum) This is intended to restructure the memory scheme and avoid strange behaviours like automatic hard resets, etc...
For example, look for a rom from Tai. There is a link to the ATT rom on his thread.
Good luck and... welcome to the flashing addict community
It is good practice to flash such a rom
I own HTC diamond from my carrier - Orange.
Its 1.93 rom.
I really wish to upgrade the rom, try different new roms for making the device faster and cleaner from things I dont use or need.
I read threads regarding dumping the rom and I understand that its possible.
Now after that, for upgrading to another rom I need to upgrade the hspl too.
This procedure voids the warrenty as well? Is it possible to dump that files also?
I dont want to void the warrenty.
I wanna be sure its possible to dump all the files I need in order to restore them for having my warrenty when I'll need that
I really appreciate the help.
ok for now....
im not a very experienced user also.. but what i know is... every provider has its own varrinty rules... for some any change in rom hspl or anything else is a broken rule and you loose it... for others it is just the problem that is interristing ... means.. if you have to use your varrinty because you speaker is broken or microphone.... you still have the rights becuase it is not caused by the rom..
as long you can turn you phone into bootloader mode you can change everything back to normal... as far as i know
But is it possible to take all the needed files from my specific device and not downloading it from the wiki's threads of roms?
In that case, What is needed for completely restoring *everything* back to normal?
Thanks again
eranyanay said:
But is it possible to take all the needed files from my specific device and not downloading it from the wiki's threads of roms?
In that case, What is needed for completely restoring *everything* back to normal?
Thanks again
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You will find information here about dumping your OS (by pof) and Splash screen (search my Rogers Canada dumped ROM thread for info).
There are already threads where you can download the Radio and SPL that matches your device's version (so you don't need to back those up).
When you want to restore everything back, do so in this order:
- Flash back the stock Radio
- Flash back the stock Splash Screen
- Flash back the stock OS (ROM)
- Finally, use the SSPL method to flash back the original stock SPL.
You'll be back to factory state.
Thanks, another small, last two questions
dsixda said:
You will find information here about dumping your OS (by pof) and Splash screen (search my Rogers Canada dumped ROM thread for info).
There are already threads where you can download the Radio and SPL that matches your device's version (so you don't need to back those up).
When you want to restore everything back, do so in this order:
- Flash back the stock Radio
- Flash back the stock Splash Screen
- Flash back the stock OS (ROM)
- Finally, use the SSPL method to flash back the original stock SPL.
You'll be back to factory state.
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Thanks for the comment.
I used the information I found in the thread you told me about, for backing up my splash screen.
About the details in the device information,
-ExtROM is included in the rom backup?
-What is Protocol version?
About the radio, is it built-in inside the rom? When I flash to another rom does it change?
Some threads I found here saying Yes, and some saying No..
Can the radio or stock spl can be customized by the cellular operator? Or Theres no need to bother breaking my head how to back up those two as well?
And last thing is about the files I have now, .raw and .nb, How can I check and see they are all fine, that I backed up right..to check if they're not corrupted?
Is there a way for that?
By doing all that I could actually save my warrenty for future purpose?
I currently have a touch pro 2 with the stock sprint winmo 6.1 rom.
This thing is starting to lag and causes me to delete alot of messages
that i really don't want to.
I have downloaded a copy of the energy rom and the sprint 6.5 rom
but really have no idea what to do with them. I have read about
the hard spl and that if things are not done right, you can brick
the phone. Not trying to do much with it except get it to move
a little faster without the freeze.
Help please!!!
Firstly, you need to understand that flashing a new ROM will overwrite everything saved on your device's internal memory. If you have games, documents, or anything else of value on the internal memory, you'll need to back it up before you flash. Micosoft My Phone is a good way to backup contacts, SMS, and other personal data on your device.
After backing everything up, you'll need to prepare your device to accept an unsigned ROM. Keep in mind that flashing a new ROM VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY. There is no need to ever tell your carrier about it, though, and restoring it to factory conditions if you ever need to send it in is a piece of cake. Just don't go flashing a new ROM and show it off in your carrier's stores, because I guarantee you that they will block you from your warranty.
Now, you'll need to go over to the CDMA Hard SPL thread and follow the instructions there to put the Hard SPL on your device. You can't do anything until this is done. Hard SPL overwrites the SPL on your device and allows you to flash unsigned ROMs, radios, and other things that your carrier frowns upon.
Once that is done, you'll want to go on over to the CDMA task29 thread and run that tool as directed. This erases and formats your internal memory and prepares your device to accept a fresh new ROM. Only use the task29 tool with the files it comes with. Never swap out any part of it, unless you feel like messing something up.
Following the task29, you are now free to flash which ever ROM or radio you desire. Make sure you read the information presented in the threads of the ROMs you may choose. Many contain valuable information that will answer most of your questions.
You have a lot of reading ahead of you to understand how this all works. I strongly urge you to do some research into what you are doing and read the instructions carefully in each thread I've mentioned.
Lastly, make sure that everything you flash (ROMs, radios, et cetera) to your device is meant for a CDMA device. If your try to load something that is for a GSM device, you'll have yourself a shiny new paperweight on your hands.
Thanks for the info. Now if i want to flash to a new rom or update to 6.5 do i need to flash a new radio?
Dr.Ama said:
Thanks for the info. Now if i want to flash to a new rom or update to 6.5 do i need to flash a new radio?
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No, you do not. Use which ever radio works best for you.
Dr.Ama said:
Thanks for the info. Now if i want to flash to a new rom or update to 6.5 do i need to flash a new radio?
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no. you shallnt need to flash a new radio with the rom.
just remember.
as cajunflavoredbob said...
flash only...
cdma hardspl.
cdma task29.
cdma rom(s).
sh4d0w86.