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I'll do this like a patient case workup:
Patient: My brother
Occupation: Medical Student
Previous Phone: Blackberry Curve 8300 with Data Plan (it was a refurb that died)
Age: 25
Data Usage: on a scale from 1-10, maybe a 3-4 emailing a little bit and some google searches
Network: ATT
Computer: iBook
Location: Philadelphia
Type of Phone Experience: a complete Monkey, my Jack Russell Terrier probably knows more about phones than my brother, lol but once he learns the basics he's alright
Requirements:
0. OS: whichever one can manage all the steps below easy, maybe RIM, S60, WM, iPhone, willing to pay up to $300-$400
1. Long battery life at least 10-12hrs
2. Qwerty keyboard
3. Email - a university email and a gmail account
4. SMS/MMS
5. MicroSd memory for pics and video
6. GPS or A-GPS with pedestrian view
7. Maybe Exchange support, his last sim card got corrupted and you know what happened
Icing on the cake
1. Facebook
2. MySpace
so what do you guys think, I'm thinking maybe a Nokia, maybe a Blackjack II, but I'd like to have your opinion, you guys are the best and one of most knowledgeable groups I know
Thanks in advance for chiming in.
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have you looked into the G1 or the new touch screen blackberry? those both look pretty promising. the dash/excalibur is a good phone too. the iPhone doesnt' have micro sd support if i'm not mistaken but it would probably be most compatible with his computer.
Not wanting to sound like a pariah in this windowsmobile forum, I would suggest a Nokia E71, about to be launched in ATT. Simple and does all these needs, good camera, 3.2 MP, and decent sound.
I myself am a windowsmobile person, on ATT, with BJ2 6.1 ATT ROM, but I guess WM world might be a but too much with the tweaks needed, for ur monkey.
Plus skyscape now has come up with good support, so u can crack and have all those for him in there.
BTW fella, u a dr or med student by any chance, just curious, Am myself one, hence asking
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Not wanting to sound like a pariah in this windowsmobile forum, I would suggest a Nokia E71, about to be launched in ATT. Simple and does all these needs, good camera, 3.2 MP, and decent sound.
I myself am a windowsmobile person, on ATT, with BJ2 6.1 ATT ROM, but I guess WM world might be a but too much with the tweaks needed, for ur monkey.
Plus skyscape now has come up with good support, so u can crack and have all those for him in there.
BTW fella, u a dr or med student by any chance, just curious, Am myself one, hence asking
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Thanks, I was thinking the E71 myself(I like that phone myself) I'm actually a dentist, Skyscape, yep, I have all those apps .
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have you looked into the G1 or the new touch screen blackberry? those both look pretty promising. the dash/excalibur is a good phone too. the iPhone doesnt' have micro sd support if i'm not mistaken but it would probably be most compatible with his computer.
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Thanks, but you know the Dash has a not so good battery life unless you get the extended version.
I suggest the Blackberry Bold. He is already familiar with the OS and the Bold is a sweet piece of tech.
I would suggest either the dash or the G1, if you do decide to get the Dash get the extended battery as it will go a long way...
thanks guys, I appreciate all your suggestion, I just read the E71 will be released by ATT as the e71X, it looks pretty darn sweet, so will see, thanks
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I would suggest either the dash or the G1, if you do decide to get the Dash get the extended battery as it will go a long way...
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the G1 is to thick and my brother won't be able to figure how to reset a stuck or low memory dash when it gets all clogged, we all know what that means
HTC PRO
or wait till summer, new phones will be hitting the arena
Has anyone actually seen a Bold, how does it compare to a Dash
The new Samsung Behold phone coming out for Tmobile seems pretty promising... It has real web browsing and 3G...
I was actually messing around with it the other day and it is amazing... I think he will love it...
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Has anyone actually seen a Bold, how does it compare to a Dash
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You can not really compare a windows phone with a blackberry phone...
Yeah, I know what you mean, I was a staff writer for BerryReview.com and also own www.blackberrygtd.com but I have not posted in a while, ever since I made the switch to the so called "darkside" Windows Mobile lol, WM rocks though and it gets a lot of negative rap but the blackberry is a pretty tight platform in its own right.
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Yeah, I know what you mean, I was a staff writer for BerryReview.com and also own www.blackberrygtd.com but I have not posted in a while, ever since I made the switch to the so called "darkside" Windows Mobile lol, WM rocks though and it gets a lot of negative rap but the blackberry is a pretty tight platform in its own right.
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Yea it is a tight platform; however, I think that WM can do a lot more than the blackberry can.
I really think the Bold will be a good fit for him. From what you described, he doesnt seem to be the type to obsess over customization. That negates one of the main "advantages" of a WinMo phone over the Bold.
He will have a rock solid OS, a fast processor, gorgeous hi-res screen, good battery life, 3G and Wi-Fi and the Bold is more multimedia oriented than previous Blackberrys.
tell of a special thing/concept (i.e. not incredibly common, or done by 4yr olds) you've done or discovered with your dash. explain in brief but diplomatic terms (not like a 4yrold) I go first
I like wififofum as a network scanner (just introduced to it recently). you can analyze and even map with a triangulation the source of a wifi signal. how's that for useful. dash is a tiny unassuming ppc, but it rules
I put together a ROM from scratch for it... lol
I discovered that in vibrate mode that the dash feels kinda funny in my pocket when someone calls!
I use mine as a portable heater, OC it to 400Mhz and it keeps me warm on theses cold dayz.
Currently my dash does multiple things, its a game machine, a paperweight and a dial up machine all in one!!!
arggh? me feels primitive.
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I put together a ROM from scratch for it... lol
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on a serious note, I must try your brew, chilled. So do you have a lite version yet? Im all for adding stuff maself, although kavana rom has been real good to me, I feel the wind of dashventure calling. oh yes
woa, got the buttons confused. I read on your rom a while ago, is there a lite version done?, because as you brought it up, I didn't make a rom for my phone (the whole arggh thing comes to mind -read comment). *ps. This is a sad exercise in correcting what should of been a reply post and it feels great. ahhh!
Buying it was an amazing move!!! then installing Kavana 080408
Remade By Rickywatt!!
Now S621 is one of the best Smartphones I ever had
Don´t forget to vote here!:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
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Buying it was an amazing move!!! then installing Kavana 080408
Remade By Rickywatt!!
Now S621 is one of the best Smartphones I ever had
Don´t forget to vote here!:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
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YESSS! such an oprah moment, I feel the same. Just jiving about the O, but this little work of micron love strums the strings in me. And btw, if any of you know how to use wififofum well (not like a 4yrold), help me. (here's the prize: go to lastfm and type in thiaz itch -I checked the spelling- and enjoy the free downloads. If and when you decide to like this, you're welcome)
I been using my dash for everything from gaming to doing excel spreadsheets etc... so in the long run it is the most useful thing I know... its like my second PC
I cant tell you what I use my Dash for.. its been compartmentalized and made above top secret
Bupahs said:
I cant tell you what I use my Dash for.. its been compartmentalized and made above top secret
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LoL........NOT!!!!!!!!!!
johnnylavah said:
LoL........NOT!!!!!!!!!!
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lol.. but what if
i liked my HTC S620 on wm5 but i started to really love it since i've installed offecial wm6 and more after installing wm6.1 by the great kavana , but i really hate its gay battery life .
i recently started to use it to prove that he can't be relied on when it comes to hard work , unless you walk with another "2" backup batteries
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i liked my HTC S620 on wm5 but i started to really love it since i've installed offecial wm6 and more after installing wm6.1 by the great kavana , but i really hate its gay battery life .
i recently started to use it to prove that he can't be relied on when it comes to hard work , unless you walk with another "2" backup batteries
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2 Words = Extended Battery
I use mine all the time when my G1 pisses me off to the point where I just need reliability.
I guess my answer would be "I use it as a phone" (which in today's society is actually rare )
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I use mine all the time when my G1 pisses me off to the point where I just need reliability.
I guess my answer would be "I use it as a phone" (which in today's society is actually rare )
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You use the dash as a phone, whats wrong with you man? lol i have to admit when i pick up my dash i sigh a little bit. The best phone ive ever had including the g1. Gaming on dash is awesome, but its also a really reliable phone. Even if i had an iphone, g1 and diamond i wouldnt part with it!
cool
I'll tell you what I've done that's cool and unique, maybe even amazing, is I have turned my dash into my girlfriend (my wife's words)she says between modding and the forum, I spend as much time with the phone as I do with her. hehe
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I'll tell you what I've done that's cool and unique, maybe even amazing, is I have turned my dash into my girlfriend (my wife's words)she says between modding and the forum, I spend as much time with the phone as I do with her. hehe
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so you should tell her to get one too and do it together
Mine is an original nintendo gaming machine, an mp3 player, eamil, and believe it or not, a phone
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coop3422 said:
so you should tell her to get one too and do it together
Mine is an original nintendo gaming machine, an mp3 player, eamil, and believe it or not, a phone
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I would, but she want's a g1, I'm telling her to wait a little to see what tmobile picks up from the HTC 2009 lineup.
well, i have a N73 right now, and i really want to get a more user-friendly phone. i like Windows mobile, and im a T-Mobile Customer. im thinking about getting the black dash, since im not really interested in the wi-fi part, but just an online browser out-side home. i have an itouch, and i just got it recently, so i dont want to throw it out or anything. im also into hacking/messing with my phones or electronics, so again, ive found some cool things on the dash that are cool. The g1 isnt appealing to me cause im not a fan of touchscreeens w/o stylus, or a slideout keyboard.
the only reason id want the g1's 3g would be to browse things like facebook, and it doesnt have a decent app for it, so im not really interested, much do i care about it.
what do u guys think? should i just go with a g1 rather than be stuck with a 3 year old phone for 2 more years? thanks!
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well, i have a N73 right now, and i really want to get a more user-friendly phone. i like Windows mobile, and im a T-Mobile Customer. im thinking about getting the black dash, since im not really interested in the wi-fi part, but just an online browser out-side home. i have an itouch, and i just got it recently, so i dont want to throw it out or anything. im also into hacking/messing with my phones or electronics, so again, ive found some cool things on the dash that are cool. The g1 isnt appealing to me cause im not a fan of touchscreeens w/o stylus, or a slideout keyboard.
the only reason id want the g1's 3g would be to browse things like facebook, and it doesnt have a decent app for it, so im not really interested, much do i care about it.
what do u guys think? should i just go with a g1 rather than be stuck with a 3 year old phone for 2 more years? thanks!
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Or just wait till March when the Dash 2 is set for release... opps did I just spoil the surprise
It all depends really, it seems like you dislike alot about the g1. The g1 is set for a big time update and in my opinion is better off without a stylus. 3g browsing is unreal, superfast!!! I have both and love both but g1 is my baby now. Plus the new update will come with onscreen keyboard, video recorder, and tons of new goodies. It is new however and will take time to catch up to wm so if you decide to get it you have to be patient. Flash for g1 is also being developed by adobe. My opinion is the g1, dont lynch me guys i do love my dash lol.
IF you want to use data away from wifi, you definitely want something with 3g. There's no comparison between 3g and edge service.
haha Dash 2?? where can i see its specs or w.e, or is that the cavelier hookin up with Tmobile? im also in the process of switchin over to At&T, but ill hold off if the g1 update/ dash 2 are really that great.
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haha Dash 2?? where can i see its specs or w.e, or is that the cavelier hookin up with Tmobile? im also in the process of switchin over to At&T, but ill hold off if the g1 update/ dash 2 are really that great.
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No, dash 2 is for real, last week htc new phones for this year were leaked and it was on the list which also included pics of all the new phones coming this year. I dont have link now, but search for htc 2009 lineup.
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haha Dash 2?? where can i see its specs or w.e, or is that the cavelier hookin up with Tmobile? im also in the process of switchin over to At&T, but ill hold off if the g1 update/ dash 2 are really that great.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470314
Im considering the TP2, but im not sure, is it a good pick? and if not what else out there would you suggest before it?
MADMAN-_-zZ said:
Im considering the TP2, but im not sure, is it a good pick? and if not what else out there would you suggest before it?
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given you a hand
MADMAN-_-zZ said:
Im considering the TP2, but im not sure, is it a good pick? and if not what else out there would you suggest before it?
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it is great if you like real keyboard and big screen.
This is my 3rd Windows Mobile phone, and I also had the iPhone 3GS. This is BY FAR the best phone I have ever owend, used, or seen. I'm a picky SOB and do my research before buying anything. This is definitely the best phone, and I will continue to be an HTC customer. They got it 100% right on this one!!
best phone
I bought 2 just to play with.
I have dropped my main one on concrete probably 7 times(not on purpose), got minor dings, but no major functionality issues. flashed rom from SD card and computer probably a hundred times, Hard SPLed it while wasted drunk and still this thing is kickin.
Top notch phone would recommend!
From my point of veiw it is an awsome phone, Try to get it cheap though, as cheaply as possible, because as you probably know htc has the leo out and its only a matter of time for a leo like phone with that 1ghz processor with a keyboard attached. There are plenty of people around asking for it so its bound to happen. So Save some money where you can and buy the tp2 through a carrier and get it through someone who is gsm not cdma so when a new phone comes out you can just pop out the sim and you have a new phone
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Im considering the TP2, but im not sure, is it a good pick? and if not what else out there would you suggest before it?
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Great phone, by far my Favorite! It is especially good with a cooked rROM with the My Location Weather in the clock. If you get it through an online retailer (not AT&T directly) with service or as an upgrade you can save some cash.
Try:
amazon
Walmart
NewEgg
can't remember some of the others.
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This is my 3rd Windows Mobile phone, and I also had the iPhone 3GS. This is BY FAR the best phone I have ever owend, used, or seen. I'm a picky SOB and do my research before buying anything. This is definitely the best phone, and I will continue to be an HTC customer. They got it 100% right on this one!!
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Agree 100%
Thanks for all the replies guys, that has sealed it, I will be getting one asap, what would you recommend me doing to it off the bat?
MADMAN-_-zZ said:
Thanks for all the replies guys, that has sealed it, I will be getting one asap, what would you recommend me doing to it off the bat?
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Nothing just use it. Then after your sure you like it Hard SPL it and try a cooked ROM. The stickies in the ROM Development forum will help you once you ready to flash some new ROMs.
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Nothing just use it. Then after your sure you like it Hard SPL it and try a cooked ROM. The stickies in the ROM Development forum will help you once you ready to flash some new ROMs.
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What exactly will the roms do for me, and is there any in particular that you would recommend?
Guess I'll be the devil's advocate. My experience with the TP2 is that it's still too slow, whether it's the OS or processor I don't know, but it needs a big boost in speed. I'm definitely grabbing a Snapdragon device when it's available because the TP2 is just a slug.
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What exactly will the roms do for me, and is there any in particular that you would recommend?
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The stock ROM that came with my AT&T Tilt 2 was actually not too bad at all. I was much quicker and responsive than I was used to on my Tilt 1, even wit it running a custom ROM.
What a ROM for the XDA "cooks" will remove a lot of bloatware from the carriers (trial app that they want you to pay for). This will free up space and resources and can help make you phone more responsive. It can also add feature from the more recent HTC TouchFlo 3D, such as the weather clock. It give you your weather in the clock and with My location service will give your the weather for where you happen to be at the moment. Other nice app included in most cooked ROMs is the Mobile WiFi app. basically allow you to turn you phone into a wireless access point.
I'm using this ROM currently:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568233
I'd honestly say the Touch Pro2 is the best mobile device I've ever had (you can see my past devices in my signature). The screen and keyboard are the best part about the TP2, but the whole thing is near perfect. Whether you're new or old to the Windows Mobile scene, I'd say this is an excellent device which you should most certainly consider.
Hey thanks guys for answering my questions, and thanks lowteckh for giving me another opinion on the matter but, Im getting a new phone in the next two weeks and I'm sure the snapdragon will not come out by then so it will have to be the TP2.
If you particularly want a phone with a hard QWERTY keyboard that runs Windows Mobile then you should check out the Samsung B7610 (a.k.a. Omnia Pro). If you don't want a physical keyboard then you probably don't want a TP2.
There are already Snapdragon-powered devices on the market: the Toshiba TG01, and Acer F1 (a.k.a. NeoTouch) both run Windows Mobile. HTC's own HD2 will be available from T-Mobile UK on Monday. (Of course none of them have physical keyboards).
If you're in America, and you think you don't want Windows Mobile, then the Motorola Droid is worth checking out. The Palm Pre and iPhone 3GS are also worth a look.
Thanks for all the feedback guys, and I like that keyboard on the samsung, it looks solid, but im not a samsung fan . I purchased a Sprint TP2 yesterday and should be getting it soon, Im very excited
MADMAN-_-zZ said:
Thanks for all the feedback guys, and I like that keyboard on the samsung, it looks solid, but im not a samsung fan . I purchased a Sprint TP2 yesterday and should be getting it soon, Im very excited
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I have both the Moment and TP2 I have to say I love the tilt feature of the TP2 the moment has some battery issues and wifi is quirky, broswer are not good, but the App store is awesome. Tp2 best features are automatic profiling and Wifi Router, serving 3g speeds to my friend's Iphone. You made a great choice.
why havent att and windows hasnt came up with an idea for us to surf the web while we're on the fone.Im so tired of seeing that same commerial about surfing while your on the fone.I would really like to brag about that too to all these iphone owners a.k.a. haters....lol
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why havent att and windows hasnt came up with an idea for us to surf the web while we're on the fone.Im so tired of seeing that same commerial about surfing while your on the fone.I would really like to brag about that too to all these iphone owners a.k.a. haters....lol
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I use data while I am on the phone all the time with my Tilt 2, Must have a 3G signal to be able to do so.
No doubt.. I did this all the time years ago with my old Tilt. Put the phone on speaker and then launch PIE and look up dinner places, stores, whatever. Running a bluetooth headset or speakerphone while running Google Maps with GPS enabled will seriously suck down some battery though, lol.
really bc i never turn on my 3g.(turning 3g on now)What was i thinking?I stay in the middle of no where so thats why i didnt have mines on.And it be killin my battery.
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why havent att and windows hasnt came up with an idea for us to surf the web while we're on the fone.Im so tired of seeing that same commerial about surfing while your on the fone.I would really like to brag about that too to all these iphone owners a.k.a. haters....lol
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Like alot of WM functions this has been available for a while through 3g and WM and nobody knows about it, its just that MS never really puts marketing money in to this kind of stuff, they leave this to the manufacturers
I hope the iphone clan doesn't start saying that Steve Jobs came up with this idea
It works on t-mobile 3g network as well, I use it on my TP2, not very often but i have used it a couple times