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WM6 - Instant Messaging Possibility (programmers look here)

Alright everyone I did some research and I've found a few things... I dont kno if anyones heard of it but there is a beta program out for messaging made by a company called Causerie. You can download the beta from here (http://causerie.mantragroup.com/down...senger-1.0.zip) There is a 15 day trial period but the layout looks excellent. For some reason it doesnt support landscape mode (they are probably trying to fix it) but it looks like an excellent program... perhaps the cab can be decompiled and we can implement it with the Jabber service which supports aim! Im new to programming and wouldnt even kno where to start but I thought if I could give some info to the more talented people on the forum maybe I could start something.... If no one is interested maybe in a few months (more like years) I will gain enough knowledge to attempt this little endeavor but for now Im just a newbie with a vision.... thanks for listening!!!!!

I don't understand what you want programmed besides the landscape support, a feature which can be pushed to the developer to speed up in delivering. The app already supports Jabber, so why bother reinventing the wheel?
Unless you're too stingy to pay for the software (USD 19.99), and rather spend time or hope other people can develop it so you can get it for free, then I'm really stumped with your intentions... do tell
Not to flame you or anything of that intent, but really there are many IMs out there that work well, even Agile Messenger and IM+.....

"Perhaps the CAB can be decompiled and we can implement it with...." ? WTF are you talking about? Clearly you know nothing about software developement.

If youre just wanting AIM, there is the old hacked AIM for WM5, that has also been modified to install to WM6, and it works fine..for free, I see you mention jabber for AIM access.
But if you want it, youll have to do some searching..though you might be very close without even knowing it.

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Webreaper said:
"Perhaps the CAB can be decompiled and we can implement it with...." ? WTF are you talking about? Clearly you know nothing about software developement.
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thus the reason why I said Im new to programming jackass how bout you go **** yourself! maybe that will dislodge whatever you have up your ass.

omfg
the reason why I said Im new to programming
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dont you mean "new to this fab new internet thingo"

bleeding_edge said:
omfg
dont you mean "new to this fab new internet thingo"
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haha wow u got jokes

Flash Touchflo coming soon...

Link here
http://www.tolna.net/~szabika/wm/index1.htm

Psiodon said:
Link here
http://www.tolna.net/~szabika/wm/index1.htm
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this is on a wizard aint it?

if it's flash it shouldnt matter what it's on, right?

ahfunaki said:
if it's flash it shouldnt matter what it's on, right?
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I guess not if the whole thing is done in flash, do you think it could be? also wouldnt flash be quite a big program?

bennec83 said:
I guess not if the whole thing is done in flash, do you think it could be? also wouldnt flash be quite a big program?
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The Flash Lite run-time (cab) itself is very small, about 800K. The size of the application built of course would depend on the application itself. As flash itself is vector based, the application can be very optimised if the developer use vector graphics instead of bitmap like jpg as much as possible.
You can get the Flash Lite cab for Windows Mobile from Adobe site at:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/devices/flashlite.html

Guess I'll have to keep an eye out for this

yeah its done in flash and the whole thing is probablly really really small as bchau mentioned its vector, if we get the source flash we can easily modify it to our liking

Looks interesting and very promising

Looks great!

Hmm..Ok when the cube thing came out for the first time, it was a hype for a short time. Its not that special. Its not that new, Iphone was the first with so called "touchflo". Like the design. But touchflo just dont work on the Hermes. So people want to copy it and make their own version of it. It just takes alot of space and there will always be bugs..

Don't know why people bother so much creating something that is not so useful. If you have to press any button to be able to show the cube it is useless. Maybe it looks nice but the main features are also included into htc home. The one thing that would be realy useful from touchflo is the "dragging" instead of scrolling...

Bram87 said:
Hmm..Ok when the cube thing came out for the first time, it was a hype for a short time. Its not that special. Its not that new, Iphone was the first with so called "touchflo". Like the design. But touchflo just dont work on the Hermes. So people want to copy it and make their own version of it. It just takes alot of space and there will always be bugs..
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well for me, i don't even want the cube; but the ability to do drag&throw to a list would be useful.
so I'll watch the "TouchNav" thread closely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321242

it's fun to have but i don't think anything special.

Any application that can provide one handed operation for most common functions is a welcomed app by me. I am currently using spb today and though it lacks the ability to really truely customize it, it beats the hell out of having 10 different plugins trying to create the same effect. Flash is a new thing for mobile interfaces so you should support it every chance you get. As you can see some really truely wicked things can be done with it in a decent footprint. With that being said, SOMETIMES its easier to start from scratch instead of reverse engineer something. There are enough threads, questions, flames to show there are enough people interested in such an application. He has not worked on it long it seems and its almost completed as well as doing work for the whoneedsaniphone project.
So, keep up the good work developers, you are appeaciated by those who can see the potential for fully customized applications.

I'll be watching this thread with interest as Flash can do some amazing things so lets see what our developers can come up with.

Camera not saving pictures to folder?

Perhaps I'm being a numpty, but I can't get the camera to save pictures!
I start the camera, zoom, focus and press the button. The viewfinder freezes for a second and then the toolbar appears at the bottom, giving me all options except saving the picture. A quick view in the My Picture folders doesn't yield a picture. If they are saved where are they and if not saved, then what is going on?
WM6 with B&B v4.0 on O2 XDA Orbit
Thanks in advance.
Fucawi

The camera in B&B4 is pretty much screwed beyond use. Tom is too busy making money from the sycophants by writing the next ROM to do anything to fix this one, which has a list of problems as long as the contributors to his Pay-Pal account. If you want touch-Flo though it is about the best your going to get.

The flo thingy is ok, but not enough to get pants all knotted about. The camera would be useful to make best use of the picture contacts facility. I never used the camera much anyway as it wasn't that good. I suppose I can take piccies on a proper camera and pop them onto the card.....no huge loss really.

Fucawi said:
Perhaps I'm being a numpty, but I can't get the camera to save pictures!
I start the camera, zoom, focus and press the button. The viewfinder freezes for a second and then the toolbar appears at the bottom, giving me all options except saving the picture. A quick view in the My Picture folders doesn't yield a picture. If they are saved where are they and if not saved, then what is going on?
WM6 with B&B v4.0 on O2 XDA Orbit
Thanks in advance.
Fucawi
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hello,
i have also a orbit and i can save my fotos on the storage card. There is a new folder called DCIM. The fotos and videos will be storaged there.
I have the same problem if i want to save a contact foto. this function doesn`t work.
But you can shot a normal foto and select this in pocketcm as contact foto.
Marcus

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The camera in B&B4 is pretty much screwed beyond use. Tom is too busy making money from the sycophants by writing the next ROM to do anything to fix this one, which has a list of problems as long as the contributors to his Pay-Pal account. If you want touch-Flo though it is about the best your going to get.
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i would like to say something on this matter.
Tom has been busy trying to answer all the Questions thrown to him. you are complaining your **se off but i bet you have BB installed, give the guy a break and show some respect to the people who are trying to create a community here.
and next time think about your comments.

neilhhardy said:
i would like to say something on this matter.
Tom has been busy trying to answer all the Questions thrown to him. you are complaining your **se off but i bet you have BB installed, give the guy a break and show some respect to the people who are trying to create a community here.
and next time think about your comments.
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no sry, he is right.
its not like the camera bugs are minor things. these are major bugs, which are really annoying.
and yet, in the B&B 4 Thread, tom never replied to a post where something with the camera was mentioned. (correct me if i'm mistaken, but i read all 100 pages).
And now hes doing a new rom, so i don't see a fix for B&B 4 coming :-/

neilhhardy said:
i would like to say something on this matter.
Tom has been busy trying to answer all the Questions thrown to him. you are complaining your **se off but i bet you have BB installed, give the guy a break and show some respect to the people who are trying to create a community here.
and next time think about your comments.
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I did install B&B4, I don't have it on now. And I did think about my comments. As for complaining my ass off, no, I don't think so. There is more I could complain about, much more, like the transcriber being missing, but won't because it is no longer a concern of mine.
I have respect for Tom for what he does but his latest ROM was rushed out, not fully tested, among shouts from people that they would donate if he got a Touch-Flo version out, other Touch-Flo ROMs were appearing, but were full of other stuff not everyone wanted and with minor operating problems like the 'X' close button not working etc. So people screamed for Tom's next ROM, and out it came. Complete with all the bugs reported so far.
If Tom chooses not to fix the bugs then that is fine by me, I can't use his ROMs if features of my device that I want to use don't work right. But Tom needs to be careful, up until recently all his efforts were for the community you want to build, but money can skew people without them realising it is happening. Perhaps if he sorted the bugs out then started looking for donations again....

no problems here...
@ Fucawi: Did you set your camera to save your pictures on your card? Then look in \Storage Card\DCIM\100MEDIA.
@ MaskedMarauder: For some people not being able to save the pic as a contact pic isn't the end of the world. Thusfar the B&B rom has been working fine with a few minor bugs. Personally I think your comment about Tom going for the money and not solving your problem is pretty cheap.
-Hans

This bug isn't reported entirely correctly, the camera does save pictures but only at the highest resolution. If you try and reduce the res then it doesn't save them. To be fair though if you really want a camera on your phone get a sony ericsson as HTC cameras are rubbish! Perhaps the fact that Tom is working on a new ROM suggests that he is going to implement all the fixes found for v4.0 in the new one therefore creating a fixed ROM... just a thought.

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@ MaskedMarauder: For some people not being able to save the pic as a contact pic isn't the end of the world. Thusfar the B&B rom has been working fine with a few minor bugs.
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That is why there is a 1000+ post thread and half the posts are from people with problems......

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That is why there is a 1000+ post thread and half the posts are from people with problems......
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Right, of them is about 75% who refuse to read the first 1000+ posts, so they ask the same questions others have asked and resolved before, the other ones are in my opinion mostly pretty minor or feature requests.

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That is why there is a 1000+ post thread and half the posts are from people with problems......
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Equally a lot of the posts are people who haven't search for an answer or don't know how to flash a rom to their device.
I'll admit that tom's rom isn't faultless but compared to the dire GPRS issues in the Dopod rom and the general lack of anything exciting in the O2 rom it is still the best out there - unless of course you want your camera to work

The whole thing with the camera is a shame as the new camera looked nice with a clean interface, it is just a pity it does not work on anything but the basic setting.
And for the record the reason I gave up on B&B 4 was that I was having to continually hard-reset my device at least every other day. I did not go on about it, I just will wait the next version, put it on and see if it works.

I agree with MaskedMarauder
bb4 is full of minor faults.
and i just saw that Tom isn't going to repair all those faults.
that's why i go back to version v3.0
the last one that worked like it should have to.
And Tom never reply's when people ask him about the camera problems or other problems.
It's a pity.

Not having the contacts picture facility is not the end of the world and I have made do with the normal camera and save piccies to contacts. There were other niggles on the v4.0 ROM that made me try the v3.7 and the O2 WM6 ROM and I think that the BB v3.7 was the best of the bunch. They all suffered from an inability to turn off the WiFi from the top toolbar and v4.0 needed to have a soft reset to get the GPRS sync started in the morning. So I will reinstall v3.7 and run it for a few days.
I liked the clock face and the contacts, weather and other HTC toys, but could do with a blue colour rather than black (does this only require a .rar file?) and a reliable GPRS sync connection (no issues on WM5 O2 settings).
Keep up the good work.
Fucawi

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Right, of them is about 75% who refuse to read the first 1000+ posts, so they ask the same questions others have asked and resolved before, the other ones are in my opinion mostly pretty minor or feature requests.
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yes, i totally agree, it's not fine to read such a big thread...
and some of the issues have nothing to do with the main post.
that's what i don't like. There are a lot of people who don't know that there is a "search"-function

petervbeck said:
There are a lot of people who don't know that there is a "search"-function
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It also has to do with people not knowing how the search function works too and getting so many hits across all the forums that they give up with it.

Backing Up Everything

Apologies if this appears elsewhere but I have looked without success. If it does then a link to the solution would be great.
Basically I found this site a few weeks ago and since then have been tinkering with my phone. I've tried various roms, added different programs, played about with the settings and so on. Today I have finally got it just how I want it. It is overclocked to run quickly but safely. The today screen is perfect. It contains everything I need including my huge list of contacts. And my theme is spot-on. However usually in life when everything is right something big and hairy appears out of nowhere and dumps on you. Its got to the point where I panic every time I turn it on just in case it crashes and I need to start all over again.
My question therefore is if anyone knows of a utility (or can give detailed instructions) to completely back up the phone. Right down to the user settings, theme and contacts. If possible maybe even to create a rom image of my phone so that if it does ever crash I can reinstall the whole thing from one simple file. I assume this sort of thing must be possible because Kavana and Ricky produce such wonderful roms with various programs, etc pre-installed.
Can it be done? And if so - can it be done by an enthusiastic amateur or do you need to be a tech guru? I should add I don't mind paying if I need to buy a piece of commercial software to achieve this.
GS

Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...

An option
Not sure about the cooked 6.1 Roms. Maybe someone else might know or have tried.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/
I use this and it's well worth it.

if u just mean the saved registry values and what not u can always export the registry so that way if u have to hard reset the phone or if a new amazingly wowlike rom is released and u NEED to flash u can always import the registry values of the chomes and it'll be the way u left it (thats what I do for my myfaves and my programs)

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Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...
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No problem, and you are entitled to your opinion. however its replies like that which stop people making posts to forums like this. Everyone has to start somewhere, and one man's obvious "common sense" answer is another man's dilemma.
As for using google... yep I could have done that but google links to hundreds of pages, some owned by people trying to sell software which obviously means they won't be objective. Others have methods which could damage a phone and because I don't know the writers how do I know which methods to trust? Ergo I decided to come to site I know, with people whose technical knowhow I trust, and to search the forum and then ask them for advice. To me, that is common sense. Isn't that one of the reasons that places like this exist? So non techheads can ask guys like you for help?
No offence intended and, for what its worth, you are one of the guys whose advice on this forum has helped me countless times. So thank you for that no matter what. Without your posts I'd never have got this far in the first place! I mean that.
As for the other replies... thanks guys. I will look into the registry stuff. And I will certainly check out the software link. If I do find some info on google, I hope you folks will help me pick the best method to use and avoid bad advice.
Thanks again.
GS

Okay the Sprite software is perfect. And now I've checked it out maybe my question was a stupid one. Still, its nice to have a recommendation from an independent source. I've been burnt in the past by bad google advice.
Sorry if I've wasted anyone's time.
GS

application store?

Just wondering is there anything like app-store in xda-dev? because this site have a huge number of application and it would be nice if we can search the apps easily.
~sorry for my bad English

Welcome to forums
Have a read on the main page please.
All great devs here give their work for free and if you like their work you can always donate!, same to XDA!
That´s the way we do things here.
No selling.
Sharing and helping

looks like I didn't make myself clear.
What I mean is application-store-like interface so that the developers' works can be presented in a nicer way rather than hundreds pages of thread. It's purpose is to make a better and proper catalog for their works and not for commercializing their works.
something like this should be enough I think:
http://portableapps.com/apps
*must learn to express myself in English >.<

reckon said:
looks like I didn't make myself clear.
What I mean is application-store-like interface so that the developers' works can be presented in a nicer way rather than hundreds pages of thread. It's purpose is to make a better and proper catalog for their works and not for commercializing their works.
something like this should be enough I think:
http://portableapps.com/apps
*must learn to express myself in English >.<
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The first post made plenty of sense .
Some users have created their own, CRCinAu's Device Update is one such app, but there's no official one. There might be some more, new app's pop up everyday and I don't have time to watch them all .
Have a search around, but I think you'd be best either using the MS one, or just browsing the forum's and subscribing to threads like the rest of us .
Dave

reckon said:
looks like I didn't make myself clear.
What I mean is application-store-like interface so that the developers' works can be presented in a nicer way rather than hundreds pages of thread. It's purpose is to make a better and proper catalog for their works and not for commercializing their works.
something like this should be enough I think:
http://portableapps.com/apps
*must learn to express myself in English >.<
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I got you mate. i understand fully what you mean all the best stuff is on here and the sad thing is joe public dont really know about it. i wont get started on the subject but there was talk about appstores but for some reason they all disappeared.
try here on your mobile
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.mobi/index.php
there is device update
http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/

thx guys, going to look at pocketpcfreeware and device update.
Oh, and will begin to subscribe thread <--- still dunno what it means, but I'll google it anyway.
Nice community!! ^_^