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Bluetooth manager doesn't start until I soft reset

Hi all,
I have a strange problem: bluetooth manager works fine after a soft reset. I can my PPC the whole day and it will always start normally (read: the screen that shows BT shortcuts shows up). The problem occurs when I turn off the phone over night (flight mode). The next day I can't get the BT manager to show the shortcuts screen - BT can be switched on and off but neither the BT manager or the BT settings screen will show up (there is no error message!!!). After I do a soft reset everything starts working...
Has anyone come across this kind of a problem in the past? I couldn't find anything using search on this forum...
My device info is (DutchRetail ROM):
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio: 1.13.00
Ext ROM: 1.40.556 WWE
I have tried uninstalling almost all extra software that I have installed after a hard reset but the issue is still here.
Thanks for all suggestions on what else I can try.

Hi Poga,
Yep, I get exactly the same problem :-(
AndrewB
ROM (i-Mate) 1.40.00 WWE
Radio 1.12.00
ExtROM 1.40.176

Hi Poga,
Yep, I get exactly the same problem :-(
AndrewB
ROM (i-Mate) 1.40.00 WWE
Radio 1.12.00
ExtROM 1.40.176

Do either of you have Goodlink software on your device?

same problem no goodlink
Same problem but no goodlink software
I also get another funny problem where sometimes I go to connect to my bluetooth access point from my phone and it just has the little pie icon saying it's doing something, then it stops and it hasn't connected (the connection icon stays the same) and I can't make any sort of connection. It then does this everytime I try to connect.
I don't know how i fix it, but I combination of many soft resets various flight mode turn ons and fiddling it eventually works. It's very frustrating and it's happened on every software version. Right now i"m running 2.04.00. I have a CDMA from Telecom NZ running radio HA_01_151 right now (but I've tried other radios).
Somebody else had this problem I noticed but nobody replied to his posts.

I've got the same problem I hope someday that someone makes a fix for it. I run the XDA IIs BlueAngel 1.40.00 Asian O2 ROM WWE. =/.

Same problem here - only solution I had was to go into settings/memory and then stop all programs running - then the bluetooth manager appears without the need for a softboot..
Pain in the arse. :!:
poga said:
Hi all,
I have a strange problem: bluetooth manager works fine after a soft reset. I can my PPC the whole day and it will always start normally (read: the screen that shows BT shortcuts shows up). The problem occurs when I turn off the phone over night (flight mode). The next day I can't get the BT manager to show the shortcuts screen - BT can be switched on and off but neither the BT manager or the BT settings screen will show up (there is no error message!!!). After I do a soft reset everything starts working...
Has anyone come across this kind of a problem in the past? I couldn't find anything using search on this forum...
My device info is (DutchRetail ROM):
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio: 1.13.00
Ext ROM: 1.40.556 WWE
I have tried uninstalling almost all extra software that I have installed after a hard reset but the issue is still here.
Thanks for all suggestions on what else I can try.
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cw6447 said:
Do either of you have Goodlink software on your device?
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I do and I have the same problem. I've been suspecting that it may have something to do with that because when I reset and I can start the manager just fine before I start Goodlink, but after I start goodlink it's a pain. Once, I tried to start BT manager then it didnt... i forgot all about it then suddenly some 11 hours later it just popped up by itself. Goodlink had been running continuously.
Any ideas???

I sometimes have the same effect.
What I usually do to resolve it (without soft reset):
- I installed PocketNav (kills programs which run in the background)
- I select 'Close all but Ative' in PocketNav
Then the Bluetooth Manager works again.
Hope it helps.
A

This is due to memory limitation in WM2003SE. When it finds that the memory is not sufficient it wont run Bluetooth Manager or Wifi. I had this problem a lot until i have shifted to WM5 which has more than 100 mb when the device starts. I guess that is why M$ has built WM5 for that reason and also for persisten storage of course.

The "memory limitation" is indirectly the problem. The Goodlink, which is more than three times the memory hog as any other 3rd party app out there, is the direct problem. I could write a college discertation on the amount of bugs in this awful software. And yes, it is good for push email...but at the expense of everything else that is good about these multimedia devices we own. The typical "close-when-you-tap-the-X" software utilities don't shut down Goodlink on my device even though they successfully shut down every other software I own (over 40 titles). So I have to use MemMaid to kill its process. But Goodlink will restore itself in a matter of minutes as it ventures out to the server looking to synch mail, calendar, contacts. If there was ever a reason to bring back public hangings, it would be for the Goodlink windows OS development team.

I don't really see any issues with Goodlink eating my memory. Then again, I've converted from a strictly fun user to a strictly business user so the whole gaming and multimedia thing doesn't quite do it for me anymore.

Steiner,
I tried PocketNav to see if it would truly close GoodApp.exe. Although it does seem to shut the application down, the 6+MB exe still is open in memory. Using MemMaid it shows that it never really closes.

I also didn't have the Goodlink software installed . My solution to the problem was: I installed the Sprite Backup software and set it to automatically restart my PPC @ 6 am after creating a backup. So in a way, this problem was very benifical to me - I now have a fresh backup of all the software every morning and the device reboots every morning without my intervention (no BT errors, no WiFi errors, etc).

poga said:
I also didn't have the Goodlink software installed . My solution to the problem was: I installed the Sprite Backup software and set it to automatically restart my PPC @ 6 am after creating a backup. So in a way, this problem was very benifical to me - I now have a fresh backup of all the software every morning and the device reboots every morning without my intervention (no BT errors, no WiFi errors, etc).
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Good idea!!! :lol:

Device Stuck in Windows Mobile Screen

First of all: I read the Wiki, I followed the instructions, and I could once get it back to life.
But I want to know WHY this happens over and over again.
The story:
I have a MDA Vario II (Hermes, Tytn) for a long time to sync my business mails and calendar- entries. Some Time ago I found this Forum and updated the Device to Windows Mobile 6 (i'm Using Schaps 3.54b) and everything works like a charm.
A few weeks ago my boss as well got the same device, and unfortunately he saw me using Windows Mobile 6 while he was using the T-Mobile Windows Mobile 5.
He wanted me to update his device as well. As I did not have ANY Problems with WM6, I did not hesitate to update his device as well.
The devices are like "clones":
Same Radio- Version 1.51
Same OS - Schaps
Same Applications: Onebridge Mobile Client as the only "non-schaps" - App
Same Configuration: HTC Home without Sound- Tab, no other Extensions on Home.
Same Provider (T-Mobile)
Of course they have different IMEI and different MAC_ Adresses, but that is what it is supposed to be.
But since I gave the device to my boss, he already had the problem the second time: The device will not go over the Windows- Mobile- Splash- Screen. The first time I did not search the WIKI / Forum and just did a Hard- reset and everything was fine again.
Today problems started the second time: First of all the device was not recognized by his laptop (and my laptop eather) any more: It said "Unknown device". And while it always charges (orange led on) for the first few seconds after re- pluggin, it stopps charging after the error- Message on the laptop.
So I thought: Maybe an akku- problem and interchanged his akku with mine.
And now i have the Windows- Boot- Stuck- Thing again.
It's not that I could not reanimate the device by Hard- resetting it, but I want to understand the reason:
How can it be, that exactly the same hardware with exactly the same software reacts that different.
By the way: This already is the second device for my boss, the first one has already been exchanged... After it had Boot- Problems (I reflashed original Radio, Firmware, so that they did not say anything)
Can anyone help ?
EDIT:
I tried leaving the battery out for 20 Minutes -> no success
I tried leaving it in Boot- Screen for 10 Minutes (or even more) -> No Access
I connected it to my PC and it can be found and gets an IP- Adfress that I can ping, but ActiveSync does not connect and the Screen is still a Windows mobile Boot- Screen.
At the Moment I'am trieing to get a log via USB- Monitor. I'm gona post it when I get it...
EDIT2:
OK, cause it's the device of my boss I now gave him mine (after a hard-reset and reinstalltion of the needed application) and reanimated his one by just doing a hard- reset. It came back to live instantly and now I will try to reproduce this hang with his device whilest him using mine. Seems that everybody knows how to reanimate, but nobody knows, why this happens... I'll try to find out and report it back if I can find the reason.

I have the same problem after installing the new HTC Plus plug in.
My ROM is the supa dupa lite one.
Now i need to remember how to do a hard reset!
edit - hard reset go tme back to 'normal'

i tried supa dupa and superstorage dlite, my phone stuck same as you are. .... at last i put any stable .nbh in microsd. then pushed power+ok+soft rest button... reflash back. successful!

Mine with Schaps 4.31 & Radio 1.54 also stucks in Windows Mobile screen after a few day upgrading ROM & radio then installing HTC Plus.
Hard reset does the cure, but I lost all the data.
So what's the culprit ?

i had the same problem, i understood the problem is the calendar.
if you have a schedule in the calendar, with a reminder or with nothing, and you turn off the pda, it will freeze in the windows splash screen when you try to turn it on. Until the schedule is ended.
i had the shap's rom 3.54b, and i resolve installing the 4.30 rom.
bye!

everytime I have had such issues..........was a corrupt installation.
when I am flashing I no touch anything anymore........just gun shy now.

having the same problem, any solutions yet?

read files from bootloader...phone stuck in calibration screen and activesync KO???

Hi to all! I installed a new cooked great rom to my trinity a month ago and it worked fine. it is this rom
[ROM][ITA]WM 6.1 Elegance edition 2.14 (OS 5.2.19213 Build 19213.1.0.0)[ONLINE]
today I got a strange error and the phone was stuck. I unplugged the battery and when I started again it was stuck on the calibration screen. if I tap on the screen nothing happens but the backlight turns on if it was off so it still catches the taps. I connected the phone via usb to delete from the autostart menu the link to the configuration screen (welcome.exe) but the phone is not deteced by activesync so no way to browse folders on my device or use a program like SOTI to control the ppc. I want to bring it back to life as I know that my files hasn't been deleted. in fact if I press the right soft button I get a menu of a program I put in the ppc and it's not included in the elegance rom so I'm sure my files and my configuration and everything are still there.
if i get a phone call the phone rings (with the default ringtone anyway, but the name of the caller is displayed correctly, that's why I'm sure my device still has all my contacts and more)
what could I do?
is there a way to edit files from bootloader? does mtty work for this? (I have no idea how to use mtty so I might be wrong) could I make a full dump, edit the startup folder and reflash the phone with all my data?
I tried to use mortscript witht the autorun feature to read a part of the register regarding the welcome file and deleting it's link in the startup folder but the sd card driver is not loaded I think as the files are not launched, while in another phone the same script works fine.
thanks in advance to all who will have time and will to help me
pcwizzul

as far as i know (not that much), reading files from bootloader is pretty impossible.
You can always just reflash. If the touchscreen problem persists, it's possible that the problem is hardware related.
Your computer should detect your device when in bootloader, and failing that, you should be able to SD flash (assuming you're HardSPL'd or equivalent, thats just what we have in the herald forum)

Thanks for your help
I'm quite sure the hardware is fine as all my problems started after a crash of the OS.
Anyone has an idea to get access to my ppc?

pcwizzul said:
Hi to all! I installed a new cooked great rom to my trinity a month ago and it worked fine. it is this rom
[ROM][ITA]WM 6.1 Elegance edition 2.14 (OS 5.2.19213 Build 19213.1.0.0)[ONLINE]
today I got a strange error and the phone was stuck. I unplugged the battery and when I started again it was stuck on the calibration screen. if I tap on the screen nothing happens but the backlight turns on if it was off so it still catches the taps. I connected the phone via usb to delete from the autostart menu the link to the configuration screen (welcome.exe) but the phone is not deteced by activesync so no way to browse folders on my device or use a program like SOTI to control the ppc. I want to bring it back to life as I know that my files hasn't been deleted. in fact if I press the right soft button I get a menu of a program I put in the ppc and it's not included in the elegance rom so I'm sure my files and my configuration and everything are still there.
if i get a phone call the phone rings (with the default ringtone anyway, but the name of the caller is displayed correctly, that's why I'm sure my device still has all my contacts and more)
what could I do?
is there a way to edit files from bootloader? does mtty work for this? (I have no idea how to use mtty so I might be wrong) could I make a full dump, edit the startup folder and reflash the phone with all my data?
I tried to use mortscript witht the autorun feature to read a part of the register regarding the welcome file and deleting it's link in the startup folder but the sd card driver is not loaded I think as the files are not launched, while in another phone the same script works fine.
thanks in advance to all who will have time and will to help me
pcwizzul
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if the sdcarddriver is not loaded then the following will not work but give it a try anyways. make a text file "whatever.txt" no quotes then rename it to "welcome.not" no quotes then put it in the root of your storage card and it should skip the whole startup process. that is if it loads the sd card driver or you might want to think about flashing another rom

I already tried the "welcome.not" trick but got no results. I'm afraid that the sd card driver is not loaded then.
Thanks for the hint irus anyway!
Really there's no way to read files from bootloader or something similar?

not that i know of
but the fact that your issue was noticed during a rom flash
dont mean it's not hardware related
much like a heart attack which happens during a thunderstorm
dont need be related to the thunderstorm

Wait! The error never happened during a flash. I never said it. I had that rom on my trinity since a month and it worked like a charm. Then suddenly I got an error and the phone was stuck.
I have understood what you mean but at least I hope it's not a hardware failure!

TyTn "Customization" How can I stop it?

Team,
I have a Vodafone branded TyTn II. My company has also installed a "customization" file/script that sets certain perameters and configures the company mail. Unfortunately, the customization file affects other operations. As a result, I have upgraded my Rom in the belief that the this would completely remove spuriuos company files but to no avail. After about 3 seconds following a cold re-boot this cusomization file kicks in and a whole set of new files are installed. I have found some of the offending files but they are write protected so I can't mod them.
How can i stop the "Customization" from running or how can I modify the scripts?
TIA

Soft reset before the customization starts. It only runs the first time after a hard reset.

By the way, soft reset does not work on v1520 (Asus P550). I have the same problem with my device and no solution yet. Even in this forum I've asked about stopping the installation of EXT ROM several times but nobody has provided any answers...

Thanks,
The reset worked but the problems I thought were due to the corporate config are still there. I'll post the main problem in another thread and see if anyone has any ideas.

n560 loox screen align problem

Unfortunately I broke my screen so I bought a new one and build it in. At the beginning the touchscreen didn't work and I did a hard reset so that I could setup windows mobile again and align the touchscreen. I followed the instructions: align screen: Tap the target firmly and accurately at each location on the cscreen. The target will continue to move until the screen is aligned. Wheter I try it 10 times or more the Software doesn't continue with the setup. I tried to skip this part with a software but Active Sync can't establish a connection with the device so I couldn't use the software (Active Sync and the PC is alright it does work with another device). A possibility to solve this problem would be to flash a ROM again but the theft protection / flash protection is activated (software from FSC: FSC Password 2.00.06044) Is there another way to remove the protection without logging into windows mobile? Or maybe its possible to repair windows mobile? (of course except hard reset i tried this like more than 10 times).
note:
ROM image: Windows Mobile 6.1 Classic CE OS 5.2.20755 (Build 20755.1.4.0) WWE (Eng) from newplowe
Additional Software: SPB Pocket Plus I found out that this installs additionally a "save mode" Maybe this causes the problem. It should look like http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/uploads/images/pocketplus/Screenshots/08.png . When I start the PDA there is a sound and then there's a popup but it disappears immediately. I tried to press every button on the PDA but nothing worked.
Thanks in advance!

Is there a way to remove the flash protection while you are in bootloader?
And why is this ****ty program "save mode" SPB Pocket Plus running wheter i did a hard reset?

Hi !
CLICK THIS ---->>>> http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/pocketplus/support.html !
Greets...
TOggER

I tried welcome.not file on sd card. Then the software acted really weird showed start menue changed screen all the time and now it hangs on boot screen . As nobody talks about how to remove the flash protection I think I will give up.

I have exactly the same problem and have found this thread looking for a solution.
Any news from anyone? You still couldnt resolve it EinPenner??
thanks,