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Direct Access to the internal GPS ??

Hello there,
Did anybody find out how to access the internal GPS of the HTC P3300 without using the GPSID (GPS Intermediate Driver)?
Although the internal GPS works fine for me with many programs (TomTom, Pathaway, Fugawi, VisualGPSce, etc.) I did not find a way to program the internal GPS using any of the common GPS tools (such as SirfTech, Aplsirf, CeMonitor, GPSTweak, etc.). In particular I'm very interested in enabling/disabling the SN and the SBAS Mode.
I'm guessing that programming the internal GPS via the GPSID is not possible (or not supported) while it might be possible by accessing the hardware GPS directly. However, I don't know how to do so...
During my investigations I found out the following details:
Based on the MS GPSID Reference the HTC P3300 must have a plug'n'play based internal GPS receiver, as there's no valid registry key found in the corresponding HKLM/System/CurrentControlSet/GPS Intermediate Drivers section.
Looking into the HKLM/Drivers/Active section for a suitable pnp GPS driver I only found COM3 (SerialGPS.dll) which for me seems to be the corresponding hardware driver for the internal GPS. However, accessing COM3 always fails for me with any program.
Does anybody know how to get COM3 (SerialGPS) to work?
Or does anybody know how the GPSID talks to the internal GPS and why I can't do it directly (or how I can do it directly too)?
Any help and discussion is higly appreciated.
Thanks, GeenZ.

Have you tired to delete the gps driver in registry, and after a softreset tried to access direct on com 3 ?

pklein90 said:
Have you tired to delete the gps driver in registry, and after a softreset tried to access direct on com 3 ?
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I already have tried disabling the GPSID. This can be done either by the GPS control panel or directly in the registry by setting the key HLKM/System/CurrentControlSet/GPS Intermediate Driver/IsEnabled to "0".
The effect was that the virtual GPS COM port from the GPSID (COM4) was no longer available, but COM 3 still did not work.
Does deleting and softreseting make a difference to disabling?
How could I "completey delete" the GPSID in the registry?
Thanks, GeenZ

I'm interested in this too since I've found reading from COM4 using CF 2 is really buggy and hangs the device. I wanted to see if talking directly to the GPS instead of the intermediate driver would speed things up a bit.

Hi,
As I reported in this Thread I did not find any solution to get direct access to the GPS port.
GeenZ

indiekiduk said:
talking directly to the GPS instead of the intermediate driver would speed things up a bit.
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it would also probably solve the problem of M650 users stucked with a different firmware version of this internal GPS which doesn't work under wm6

If you would take a look at my following thread
it explains the problem.
Alot of people think they cant connect to the GPS device, but actually it is connection but just nog receiving data the right way.

Slovek said:
If you would take a look at my following thread
it explains the problem.
Alot of people think they cant connect to the GPS device, but actually it is connection but just nog receiving data the right way.
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Thanks Slovek
Should we Thank HTC for this great feature ?!

Already had contact with them, initially they put this up as a 'feature' but about a month ago i received a short list of questions regarding the GPS module. so i hope their going to change this.

Hope so
at least for the "perennity" of this device !

Dash W/ Google Maps and Bluetooth GPS reciever?

I have a T-mobile Dash and i installed the new Google maps software for smartphones. and picked up a Cellink BTG-7000 bluetooth gps reciever.
I can't get google maps to detect the bluetooth gps
i paired the device and created a outgoing com port to the gps ( says BTG-7000 (com 7)
- ive tried un checking secure connection
- also created an incoming port but does not have gps reciever name in connection...
the google maps software says i have to goto the start - settings - GPS
but i do not have such an option.
Anyone have any ideas?
dave

Hmmm, I am not sure either. I just tried to get it to recognise my bluetooth gps device. Surely someone knows what is going on.

Same issue here
I am having the same issue with my Dash/Bluetooth GPS with Google Maps. There is a FAQ (http://www.google.com/gmm/gmmfaq.html?platform=winm-SmartPhone-T-Mobile+Dash/web#4) that refers to a "Settings->System->GPS" control panel applet that does not exist.

I have the same problem. I think the issue has to do with the initialization of the BT GPS unit and have WM see it first (as GPS) rather than as a BT device that it has paired with. The GPS applet would take care of it by sending it cold boot parameters etc.
Alternatively, you can download a smartphone version of the applet from the GPS manufacturer and run that before running Google Maps. I am not sure but it might fix the problem.
Edit: I wonder if the HTC S620 Variant has the GPS applet in its ROM? If it does, perhaps someone can extract the cab file and share it with the community. That might fix our GPS woes...

I'm running the s620 ROM. There is no GPS applet that I see...

there is no gps

Darn..that sucks.

the settings they tell you to go look at only exist in the PPC version.

Was able to use a BT GPS device to work with Windows LIVE search ( Google Mobile Maps rival )
If GMM can be forced to use a particular comm port it should also work .. anyone ?
HTC S620 phone BTW.

Figured it out !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293018

Umm, same thing I wrote in the other thread:
Folks, is there a reason you guys are so desperate to use GMM? Especially knowing your GPS doesn't work natively without hacks?
Just use Windows Live Search Mobile? IMO, LIGHT YEARS ahead of GMM in terms of usability and fit and finish. AND it'll find your GPS both on GPSID (what GMM uses) as well as COM ports. No hacks. Simple. Straightforward. Elegant.
http://wls.live.com from your mobile phone. Click the Windows Mobile client.

I've played with both and I've found GMM to be much more one handable. Now when I say that I know WLS is one handable but things go slow. You can do things quick with GMM one handed.
Also GMM adds a features that WLS doesn't. One example is that if you go to a contact in your contact list it gives you the option to 'Locate on Google Maps' and it will use the address in the contact information to locate the contact on Google Maps. And I might be wrong but isn't Microsofts Satelite (Not Road Map) imagery older then googles?

GMM cleaner and smaller but lacking big feature
GMM also seems to use much less memory. Great footprint compared to WLS which slows the whole phone down. When I turn off WLS I also have to restart most of the time because the phone can't recoop some of that memory. The one thing I don't like about GMM is that when using the directions feature with GPS, you can only look at your route, or follow your track - not both at the same time like WLS. (IE right before every turn you get a popup with which way to go.) It's much more manual with GMM.

GPS - how to test it

Hello,
I got this PPC a few days ago (from t-mobile. germany) and I still did not get the GPS thing running...
Does anyone have an idea with witch free program I can test GPS and how I have to configure it? GPS isn't really covered in the manual.
Or do i have to buy an antenna or something extra?
Thanks for help

Did your device come with some GPS related software such as a navigation package, if so which one?
You don't need an external aerial for it to work, if you haven't got any software there are a number of free utilities that can be used to check that it is working - Mike

ok, it's great to hear that i don't need a hardware addon to get it work, but i don't know other gps programs than gpsdash... and gpsdash doesn't work, i dont know how to configure it, it always says "satellites in use: 0"
how do i have to configure the com port and the baud rate?

For a start leave the GPS icon alone you don't need to mess with that.
In GPS Dash you want to select the following:
NMEA data type
Baud Speed 9600
Com Port 4
then you should start to see things working, I don't have that application on either of my Arte based devices, but these settings will work.
Otherwise have a look for the old TomTom GPS driver from version three or earlier I know this works as I use it from time to time on both devices.
Download, unzip and copy the CAB file to your memory card, then using the file explorer on the device locate the cab file and tap it to install the application. - Mike

Build in GPS

Hello,
I was planning to buy the HTC P3300 one of the main reasons is the build in GPS (which I want to use in my car). Is the build in GPS good enough to use in a car? I start having doubts when I saw a package offered with a external gps as well?
Thanks in advance,
Luigi

Of course it is usable in car. I had the p3300 gps (now the p3600 trinity gps). both devices have very good signal. So no external gps recommended.

Luigi2007 said:
Hello,
I was planning to buy the HTC P3300 one of the main reasons is the build in GPS (which I want to use in my car). Is the build in GPS good enough to use in a car? I start having doubts when I saw a package offered with a external gps as well?
Luigi
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Yep, works totally great. The Orbit has a very good GPS receiver, v. good at receiving signals, and the units volume level make it equally good for hearing the voices. I've used prevoius PDA's with an external GPS, but the Orbit does just as good, without all the hassle of extra leads.

GPS settings
Can anyone help me?? i have got the Artemis since 4 weeks, TomTom was pre-installed and worked actually, but couldn't find some maps for it. Therefore I removed the app and installed iGo 2006 and some other GPS apps. Now I cannot find TomTom and all the other apps throwing me the same "cannot find GPS receiver" message. Is there something wrong with the TomTom removing or there is some way I can tune the receiver to answer for the other apps.
Thanks in advance

Tingusz said:
Can anyone help me?? i have got the Artemis since 4 weeks, TomTom was pre-installed and worked actually, but couldn't find some maps for it. Therefore I removed the app and installed iGo 2006 and some other GPS apps. Now I cannot find TomTom and all the other apps throwing me the same "cannot find GPS receiver" message. Is there something wrong with the TomTom removing or there is some way I can tune the receiver to answer for the other apps.
Thanks in advance
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In tomtom you have to select the Internal GPS receiver.
serch for settings in the other apps where you can select the GPS receiver.
It is connected to COM4 by default.

Yes, in TomTom you must go to the menu screen, select 'Change Preferences' then select 'Show GPS Status' then select the 'Configure' tab. Once your there select look for an option for 'Built In GPS Receiver' if it is there your done, if not you need to select 'Other NMEA GPS Receiver' set the GPS Baud Rate to 4800 then select the COM Port your GPS is on, usually COM4 by default.

Hi
I have the same problem, I've checked all the settings (tomtom and device)and they're correct but still Tomtom says no gps device.
I've just hard reset my device, is there anything I need to do?
I have a xda orbit.
edit: sorted, just me being stupid (as always)

Try with this settings
Try your mobile under system settings you can find GPS icon.
Check GPS program port is COM4 and Hardware port is COM3 with baud rate 4800 selected. Access tab click Manage GPS automatically
Once these settings are same as above try with your GPS software (TOMTOM or any other) with the GPS port as COM4 selected.
Please let me know if it works

Touch's GPS Signal Problem - Driving me insane

This is driving me nuts...
I have TomTom 7 and choose "Built-in-Receiver". Received good GPS signal last night for like 10 minutes after installing the official ROM. Then it stopped working ever. It always says "No GPS Receiver" or "Waiting for GPS Signal", both in-house and in open-sky areas. Any help? Am I just in bad luck that Sprint sold me a Touch with a poor GPS chip?

i think that is not enough info . you a have to list atleast provider,rom ,radaio version

same problem... kind of anyway
i have TomTom 7.45 installed also on
Touch
CPU: Qualcomm 7500 @400MHz
PPC 6.1
Bell Mobility CDMA
ROM: 3.02.651.2
Radio: 3.42.30
PRI: 1.33_007
When i start TT7 it will say "no GPS device!" it doesn't matter if i choose the "built-in GPS receiver" or the "other NMEA GPS receiver"
the only way i can get it to get/recognize GPS is to start GPS Viewer first, then start TT7. This is kind of stupid.
tho when i start Google Maps, no problem, it recognizes the GPS no problem...
(and yes, i have tried reinstalling the ROM, the applications...etc.)
any help would be appreciated.

Tomtom 7 does not have GPSID support and thus needs a program to open the GPS com port first. The best way to do this is AstroGPSLauncher, it's a simple cab file install and you'll have no more issues. Google and or search for it, it's at the forum here.

great... thank you.....