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Navigon with Artemis

Has anyone tried Navigon MN5 with Artemis yet?..........
Thanks
Rafiki

I did.. Navigon works fine, but is really slow on my Artemis. TomTom is much faster. I tried Navigon because of the TMC support, but i can't get TMC to work on my device. I'm going to try iGo 2006 as well, but for now TomTom does the job very well.

Now I'm using iGo 2006. I can recommend this piece of software to everyone, it's much faster than both TomTom and Navigon. The looks are incredible.

My tomtom takes ages to find the sats when you first boot it up. Is this normal??

tmaxx said:
My tomtom takes ages to find the sats when you first boot it up. Is this normal??
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Try to find the upgrade to v6.02 as this has the option for "Built In GPS" and it'll then use the Quick GPS data. Cold start is now 10 seconds for me with warm start being about 3 second!

Navigon 6
Navigon 6 works fine, but it is really slow on Artemis, is there anyone knows how to turn the first warning off in the begining of screen ?

Does iGo support QuickGPS so that it can lock on fast?

A cool nav program is Route 66. Works fine and gets a fix in approx.10 sec. Uses same maps as Navigon btw!
TomTom is a joke if you live in Eastern Europe. Either no maps at all or very poor with only very major roads.

I only work with DestinAtor on my Artemis. Version 6.0.0.
Very fast fixes (approx 6-9 seconds) and response from map is better then TommyTommy, according to a friend of mine. He switch over to DestinAtor aswell.

TomTom GPS Settings...?
low405 said:
Try to find the upgrade to v6.02 as this has the option for "Built In GPS" and it'll then use the Quick GPS data. Cold start is now 10 seconds for me with warm start being about 3 second!
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Guys can someone tell me what settings they have on their Artemis' GPS Settings and on their TomTom 6.200?
On my Artemis' GPS settings, I have it set to:
GPS Programs Port: COM4
GPS Hardware Port: COM2
Baud Rate: 4800
Manage GPS automatically set to: ON
And on the TomTom settings I configured it to use the Other NMEA GPS Receiver, set the baud rate to 4800 and then when it asks "GPS is connected to:" I just select COM4 which is the first option.
Now this works for me pretty well but the weird thing is my HTC P3600 seems to be a lot quicker at getting a fix and it has connections with more sattelites and a better signal than the Artemis!
As far as I know, the artemis is suppose to be much better when it comes to GPS because it has the latest Sirf 3 GPS receiver and from what I read somewhere, the P3600 has another GPS chip not as good as the Sirf 3.
Would be good to know what settings everyone else is using. By the way TomTom only seems to detect the GPS when the GPS Programs Port is set to COM4 on the Artemis' GPS settings. Setting this to anything else doesnt work.
Thanks in advance.
D.C

Hello, I put the Navigon 6,2 software on my P3300 today. Awesome stuff. The update 6,2 has improved the Speed alot.
The only thing that i need help with is the TMC service.
how can i get that up and running?
Thanks
Tim

Hi,
I'm currently running navigon 6.1.5 on my P3300 with WM6 (NewArtemis2). Every now and then I'm getting the message that my memory is full. At that moment I can choose to end different programs. Normally or MN6 or phone. Because I'm using navigation I choose telephone. Then after a few minutes I'm getting a network faillure and MN6 ends.
Is this a known problem and if it is, is there a sollution for it?
Thanks for your help.
Paul

Bringing up an old topic again.
I tried to install Navigon MN6.2 on my artemis. Everything goes well, except for the images on the screen, it's far from smooth.
How did other people manage to run MN6.2 to run smoothly on there Artemis?

test gps chipset functionality

Hi there,
Is there a way i can test if the gps chipset on my new p3300 is working properly?. I installed Iguidance but it will never get a fix although it does auto detect the gps port . I ran quickgps over wifi and despite downloading the latest fixes, Iguidance fails to get a fix
I am looking for any freeware appz which can just tap into the gps receiver and start spitting some data so i can be assured its not the gps module but Iguidance. Something like a gps viewer which displays the # of sats, lat n longitudes etc.
I appreciate any help I can get as I have only 2 more days before i can get this device exchanged.
Thanks in advance!~
btw, I am running Wm6 using B&b3.7 rom

Search on google for visualgpsce.
Bye

Grab a copy of the TT GPS Driver 2,06 from here http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=13 install that as it is an application in its own right.
Fire up the application on the Artemis and select the GPS tab in the application Use the following Settings:
Top drop down box "NMEA 0183v2 9600"
Second drop box "COM4"
Make sure the two sliders in the middle of the screen are to the right, then check the grey/ blue box top left, return to the "Status" tab and take the unit outside, you should see some activity and get a position fix after a couple of mins - Mike

Thank you guys so much..
After running the app, i got 12 sats in view and 7 fix. So w00t, the gps chip is working.
Now to figure out whats wrong with iguidance
Thanks again...

Not too sure about that app as I have not tried it (yet) - does the GPS hardware actually start when you fire up the application - if you can configure it to use COM4, Baud 9600 do so and try it again. The indication the GPS has fired up is down to the LEDs on the device, once started it will flash orange to signify its in use. If this doesn't happen you might need to look into using Fransons GPS Gate to present a virtual GPS port to the application - Mike

Well, I do see the orange light blinking when Iguidance is running but still sees no sat's.
I even upgraded to V3.01 and same issue. Also tried Franson gate app and no luck.
I could try tomtom since that appz does see the sats and gets a fix ( tried it using a free US map) but i am having trouble loading the N.A+canada map since i don't have the cab file for it just the extracted map files which Tomtom HOME will refuse to load unless its a cab file i believe
Off to google to hunt on instructions on how to make cab files...

last time i checked iguidance v3 wasn't compatible with the artemis.

Oh ic. I did come across a couple of posts reflecting the same .
Oh well..I loved the map loader feature of Iguidance. Sad to see its gone in the upcoming V4.
Anyways I got tomtom running.. i was suppose to have the maps in the root folder of the memory card not in a sub-folder !

Build in GPS

Hello,
I was planning to buy the HTC P3300 one of the main reasons is the build in GPS (which I want to use in my car). Is the build in GPS good enough to use in a car? I start having doubts when I saw a package offered with a external gps as well?
Thanks in advance,
Luigi

Of course it is usable in car. I had the p3300 gps (now the p3600 trinity gps). both devices have very good signal. So no external gps recommended.

Luigi2007 said:
Hello,
I was planning to buy the HTC P3300 one of the main reasons is the build in GPS (which I want to use in my car). Is the build in GPS good enough to use in a car? I start having doubts when I saw a package offered with a external gps as well?
Luigi
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Yep, works totally great. The Orbit has a very good GPS receiver, v. good at receiving signals, and the units volume level make it equally good for hearing the voices. I've used prevoius PDA's with an external GPS, but the Orbit does just as good, without all the hassle of extra leads.

GPS settings
Can anyone help me?? i have got the Artemis since 4 weeks, TomTom was pre-installed and worked actually, but couldn't find some maps for it. Therefore I removed the app and installed iGo 2006 and some other GPS apps. Now I cannot find TomTom and all the other apps throwing me the same "cannot find GPS receiver" message. Is there something wrong with the TomTom removing or there is some way I can tune the receiver to answer for the other apps.
Thanks in advance

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Can anyone help me?? i have got the Artemis since 4 weeks, TomTom was pre-installed and worked actually, but couldn't find some maps for it. Therefore I removed the app and installed iGo 2006 and some other GPS apps. Now I cannot find TomTom and all the other apps throwing me the same "cannot find GPS receiver" message. Is there something wrong with the TomTom removing or there is some way I can tune the receiver to answer for the other apps.
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In tomtom you have to select the Internal GPS receiver.
serch for settings in the other apps where you can select the GPS receiver.
It is connected to COM4 by default.

Yes, in TomTom you must go to the menu screen, select 'Change Preferences' then select 'Show GPS Status' then select the 'Configure' tab. Once your there select look for an option for 'Built In GPS Receiver' if it is there your done, if not you need to select 'Other NMEA GPS Receiver' set the GPS Baud Rate to 4800 then select the COM Port your GPS is on, usually COM4 by default.

Hi
I have the same problem, I've checked all the settings (tomtom and device)and they're correct but still Tomtom says no gps device.
I've just hard reset my device, is there anything I need to do?
I have a xda orbit.
edit: sorted, just me being stupid (as always)

Try with this settings
Try your mobile under system settings you can find GPS icon.
Check GPS program port is COM4 and Hardware port is COM3 with baud rate 4800 selected. Access tab click Manage GPS automatically
Once these settings are same as above try with your GPS software (TOMTOM or any other) with the GPS port as COM4 selected.
Please let me know if it works

GPS doesn't work

Hi Guys,
finally my new (german) Rhodium arrived today.
All is fine except the GPS module.
It seems deactivated and I have no idea how to activate it.
Google Maps doesn't work, GPS settings are gray and the GPScyclecomputer sais GPS it off.
Any idea what to do?
Thanks
Duke

In Google Maps under menu-options do you have windows manage the GPS settings?

Hi,
thanks for your reply.
The menuentry for the GPS settings is gray and unavailable.
The winmo GPS settings don't accept any chances at the hardware tab, hardwareport setting is none, i think thats because of the internal device?
Duke

My Touch pro 2 GPS also don't seem to work.
I have a dutch version of the TP2.
The HTC GPS Tool isn't able to get a fix.
TomTom 7 Isn't able to get a fix.
Its set to com 4-> None -> 4800 -> Let windows manage.
Is this perhaps a problem with other then english roms?

After a hardreset all works fine.
Needed about 20minutes for TomTom 7 to get a fix but finally it has one.

I have performed several hard resets with the 1234 okay and still no luck with the GPS I think i'm going to caal htc

I called HTC Netherlands.
They said TP2 is only compatible with Copilot 7.
Also they said to set it to com9 with a baud rate of 9200.
I'm unable to set it to a baud rate of 9200 it switches back to 4800.
So still no luck with the gps. I'm a little bit disapointed with the support.
I keep you posted.

I did contact the HTC support, too. They advised the hard reset.
Did you go out for a walk trying to get a fix? Did it for me.
You also should run QuickGPS to download current satelite data from the internet, and then get out, to a park maybe and give it time. Could be up to 30minutes!
Good luck!

load of crap if someone tells you that it's only compatible with Copilot. GPS chip will work any software as long as they are compatible with each other. TomTom 7 works just fine in TP2.

After a 100km drive with TT 7 still not able to get a GPS lokation with the internal GPS. Its set to COM 4 witha baud of 4800.
The Parrot T3200 easely finds 8 active GPS satalites.
I keep you posted.

It worked for me straight off with Live Search, no need to change any settings. Maybe Orange got something right for once?

Have you tried GPSTest (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477 and many other places round here) that should help show what is going on.
Gordon

I tried that tool with diffrent settings.
It sees some red dots in the Satallite tab. But is also unable to connect to a satalite. Whilst with my parrot T 3200 it connects with the HTC GPS Tool.

Still the GPS and radio was not working after the WiMo 6.5 Upgrade.
I Called HTC and my touch pro 2 has been shipped to a repair center.
They replaced the motherboard and its working perfect now.

GPS lag in TT7

I have my rhodium for a week right now, and notice some gps lag in tomtom 7. I unlocked my rhodium with the hard spl and tried several roms and radio roms, most of them perform similar regarding the gps lag; tomtom is always one update tick behind.
If I adjust the POLLInterval in the registry, from 1000 ms to a lower value, the position on the map in tomtom is not updated more frequently, so the lag is still the same.
I also tried the gps patch from ITDev, but without succes, lag remains the same.
Then I switched the gps settings in tomtom to my old bluetooth gps, and also there is the lag. It seems the problem is somewhere in windows mobile or tomtom, and not in the qualcomm gps-one driver/settings.
Has someone tested the lag with another navigation package and compared that with the gps lag in tomtom?? I'm going to try it with navigon, and try just one more radio, the latest one: Radio_Rhodium_4.47.25.24. If that's not working I will wait till the official WM6.5 rom is released.
Another question, does somebody know how to get the assisted gps working?? or correct the gps lag?? I was unable to resolve the lag with any of the tweaks discussed here on XDA.

Just arrived today , the updated GPS fix, saw positive reactions!
http://www.htc.com/nl/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all

I have tried that radio too, still a lag of 1 second in tomtom, the same as the update frequency, just one tock behind.
Just tested navigon, together with Radio_Rhodium_4.47.25.24. Completely no lag at all, when I drive over a roundabout it displays my position correctly, when a drive over bridges and rivers it displays my position correctly. When I do this with tomtom I already passed the roundabout while tomtom is stil approaching the roundabout.
When I look at the gps settings in Navigon is seems that navigon reads out the gps directly from com 4.
If I want to make a same setting in tomtom it is not possible. With some roms and radios com4 is not even listed in tomtom, and with other roms I have com4 but can only access it when I let windows control my gps. This box can be checked in the settings/system/extrnal gps dialog on the third tap (access). When I uncheck this box I don't get the internal gps working.
Strange that navigon does not have gps lag, and tomtom is continously 1 update tick behand. And the update frequency in Navigon is much larger then the update frequency in tomtom.
Sometimes the position freezes for a second in navigon, but after that the position is correct again.
To summarize, what an amazing difference between tomtom and navigon.

Where did u find the radio 4.47.25.24???

http://xdadev.f1ip.net/index.php?dir=Rhodium/Radio
that's where that radio comes from

tried that latest radio with tomtom, the gps lag is still not gone.

i'm not sure if this has to do with radio's roms etc. i tried igo 8 and tomtom. both lagged horrible. then with gps tweaks it improved a little .. but still lag.
Then i bought Copilot 8 .... NO LAG AT ALL .... nothing.... nada . When the car turned ... copilot is ready.
So ... why should it be the radio or the rom when lag differs on software ?
I think it has to do with programming the navigation applications.

i have also tried the patch from HTC for the radio and the lag is still there when using tomtom. surely between HTC and Tomtom this can be sorted out.
very frustrating to be paying such a lot for a phone only to find that the one application i use everyday works better on my 2 year old TYTNII.
If it was not for me recently renewing my traffic and speed cam sub then I would ditch them.