How to tell what band im on - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Hey,
I was wondering if there was anyway to tell in detail what band i am on.
My phone should be connecting to telstra's UMTS 850 network, but i think it is only connected to the 3g 2100 network. Is there anyway to check?
Same with my data connections, i dont think it is connecting at the higher speed 850 band, and has reverted back to the slower standard 3g 2100 band.
Im using schaps 3.54b
Cheers

Daniel Herrera's Bandswitch will tell you which band you're on and allow you to change at will. Get it HERE....
Another one is from Shogunmark and is HERE...

You should be able to check them: phone>menu>options>band. Once there, you can select your band or go auto.

yeah, it seems i cant get on band 850 (telstra's nextg network) with any of the new roms.
very strange.

BTW...what radio version are using?

Check out this excellent engineering mode app. It says what band you're currently using.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274269

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Enable 850mhz

Hi Guys,
After alot of searching on here I was still unable to find my answer.
Im currently using XBMOD's ROM (thanks man its tops) I dont want to change from it. But the problem I am having is here in Australia im with Telstra and it uses 850mhz for its 3.5 NextG network.
I have noticed that with majority of the roms on here this is enabled or even supported. I know my phone has it because when i load it up with Telstras ROM everything works like Foxtel and and what not.
Is there someone out there that can help me get this up and running.
Then we could start mixing it in with the roms here.
thanks
is your phone the European Version?
yeah im pretty sure it is.
I'm using a Telstra diamond, and im running the official Asia 2.03 rom, and it works fine...the network drop down box doesn't show UMTS 850MHz, but it is picked up as far as i know...(i've travelled to a nextG only town and had signal - even without the patch attached installed)...also all the quad band radios support 850MHz, you can enable it in the drop down list using this patch if you want:
i installed it, but where do you enable it? which drop down list?
It's not software that allows us with Telstra Diamonds to connect to the other frequencies but hardware.
Our Telstra Diamond's are DIAM130's. They have extra hardware to enable the use of our 3G frequencies.
well i know i have the hardware cause when i am using the telstra stock rom i can do what i want to do.. so its more of a software side where i have to activate that piece of hardware
luckyluke1137 said:
well i know i have the hardware cause when i am using the telstra stock rom i can do what i want to do.. so its more of a software side where i have to activate that piece of hardware
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Just because you can access the Telstra features doesn't necessarily mean you're on the 850Mhz band (trust me, I learned the hard way)... you could be connecting through their 2100 Mhz network (I think it's 2100). Even if you have the option of selecting 850 Mhz in the phone settings it doesn't mean you have the hardware for it.
Want a definitive check? Try restricting the phone to the 850 Mhz setting and seeing if you can still connect. Otherwise, pull the back cover off, pull the battery away from body and read the model number below the bluetooth icon (assuming they all have this)... if it's a DIAM100 then definitely no go. If it's a DIAM130 then you're laughing and I'm not to sure on any other model no's though.
I've flashed a myriad of ROM's from here on the DIAM130 and have never had an issue with connecting to the NextG network... they have all connected straight after reboot. The only thing you have to do for internet access is ensure you set the HTTP proxy to 10.1.1.181:80 although it has worked fine for me without this.
luckyluke1137 said:
i installed it, but where do you enable it? which drop down list?
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Click phone, go to Menu, then go Options, go Band... the settings are in there...
Windza said:
Just because you can access the Telstra features doesn't necessarily mean you're on the 850Mhz band (trust me, I learned the hard way)... you could be connecting through their 2100 Mhz network (I think it's 2100). Even if you have the option of selecting 850 Mhz in the phone settings it doesn't mean you have the hardware for it....
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I live in rural NSW, there is only the nextG 850MHz network here, or GSM...where i checked the signal was a nextG only region...no GSM coverage at all...so i think that's proof enough don't you?
lasterato said:
I live in rural NSW, there is only the nextG 850MHz network here, or GSM...where i checked the signal was a nextG only region...no GSM coverage at all...so i think that's proof enough don't you?
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Certainly is - but you have a Telstra Diamond and my comment was directed at luckyluke... or did I miss something ?
radio .08
works perfect for me.
Windza said:
Just because you can access the Telstra features doesn't necessarily mean you're on the 850Mhz band (trust me, I learned the hard way)... you could be connecting through their 2100 Mhz network (I think it's 2100). Even if you have the option of selecting 850 Mhz in the phone settings it doesn't mean you have the hardware for it.
Want a definitive check? Try restricting the phone to the 850 Mhz setting and seeing if you can still connect. Otherwise, pull the back cover off, pull the battery away from body and read the model number below the bluetooth icon (assuming they all have this)... if it's a DIAM100 then definitely no go. If it's a DIAM130 then you're laughing and I'm not to sure on any other model no's though.
I've flashed a myriad of ROM's from here on the DIAM130 and have never had an issue with connecting to the NextG network... they have all connected straight after reboot. The only thing you have to do for internet access is ensure you set the HTTP proxy to 10.1.1.181:80 although it has worked fine for me without this.
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Agree, rip the back off and do this check first, I've found no issues in using any rom's with my DIAM130. I've left band settings to Auto lately.
I use to go in and change the registry to show all bands, but got sick of doing it everytime a rom cooker "missed" our bands.
The cab from Dutty does work I think by my memory ?
I did have a DIAM100 proir, and yes it will show "Telstra" etc but you will NOT get NextG 850.
cheers
luckyluke1137 said:
Hi Guys,
After alot of searching on here I was still unable to find my answer.
Im currently using XBMOD's ROM (thanks man its tops) I dont want to change from it. But the problem I am having is here in Australia im with Telstra and it uses 850mhz for its 3.5 NextG network.
I have noticed that with majority of the roms on here this is enabled or even supported. I know my phone has it because when i load it up with Telstras ROM everything works like Foxtel and and what not.
Is there someone out there that can help me get this up and running.
Then we could start mixing it in with the roms here.
thanks
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HI
try to change registry key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AdvancedNetwork\SupportHSUPA
from 0 to 1
My device is DIAM100 and upgrade to "hTC_Asia_WWE_2.03.707.2_Radio_Signed_D iamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23". It also do not have 850Mhz. Is Radio 1.09.25.23 not Quad band support? But it appear when using original ROM.
Most radios support quad band UMTS.
DiAM100 devices do NOT though and this is a hardware limitation.
Hey man, from what you get diam100 have no quad band?
mine has!
Yuna said:
Hey man, from what you get diam100 have no quad band?
mine has!
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The context of 'quad' band in this thread is in relation to the Aussie Telco 'NextG' network which requires 850MHz UMTS connectivity - something you DON'T have on a DIAM100.
You meant only UMTS 850mhz or simply 850mhz (GSM & UMTS)?
Yuna said:
You meant only UMTS 850mhz or simply 850mhz (GSM & UMTS)?
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We're discussing 'NextG' which is 850MHz UMTS although Telstra do have 3G service via 2100 UMTS as well...
Hey guys,
thanks for the large amount off support. I check my phone. I have a DIAM130.
And I installed duttys cab and chose GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
and it still isnt doing what I want it to do.
Those that have nextg here know that you get access to bigpond, and foxtel mobile tv.
But this isnt working. I think there might be something in the registery I might have to change or something for it to know that its a telstra device.

Band Selection

Can anyone confirm if the Band Selection menu is available. It's critical for me being on Bell's swiss cheese network to be able to manually select a band to get service in a particular area. Otherwise I'll need to wait an extra month and go with Rogers.
I don't understand what you mean. The phone's compatible only with Bell's 850/1900 HSPA bands. What other bands can you switch to?
Through the band selection menu you can choose to only use 850 and not have it search for 1900 constantly. In an area where 1900 doesn't penetrate very well it will intermittently fall back to 850 but will always continue to search for 1900 which leads to a lack of signal most of the time.
NexusDro said:
The phone's compatible only with Bell's 850/1900 HSPA bands.
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who said so?
The phone comes with a penta-band 3G chip which allows it to connect to any 3g network around the world.

[Q] Unable to use UMTS Mode (ONLY GSM WORKS )

Hi all
I just recently acquired a INC 2 Love the phone by the way and am located in INDIA
I'm running a r1 rom which offers full GSM functionality
SIM: TATA DOCOMO
The issue I have is
I can connect to GSM only Mode , but when I try GSM/UMTS or UMTS Only , the phone cannot cannect to a network.
The phone is SIM unlocked and in GSM only mode I can call/sms/data fine
My service provider uses the 2100 mhz band so obviously the INC 2 supports that, I have searched and lot and have tried various ROMS, but unable to narrow down a solution
i have tried the *#*#4636#*#* mode and even there only GSM ONLY works
NO GSM/UMTS , WCDMA or anything
Basically I cannot connect to 3G
Any suggestion guys
bump guys...... 98 views and not a soul to reply
Had the same problem, couldn't find a solution. Bump!
Have you try manually entering the APN (access point network) for your carrier? That might help.
ducksauce said:
Have you try manually entering the APN (access point network) for your carrier? That might help.
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Yes I have, pretty much tried everything.
yes the APN is the same for both GSM and 3G
It just wont connect to a 3G network... only works on force 2G ie GSM
That is kind of weird. Does Tata only uses 2100 mhz? Maybe try updating the radios? Does the stock rom also not picking up 3G?
I'll be traveling to Hong Kong in 2 weeks and there uses 2100 as well. Let me see if I can get 3G and will let you know. It's hard for me to test UMTS on my DINC2 here in US coz I could only get EDGE from TMobile or AT&T.
All Indian networks use 2100 ... Yes it did not work on stock either ... I'm wondering if band unlocking is needed ..

UMI X2 and T-Mobile 3G

I purchased the newly released UMI X2 Android phone. I am unable to use the TMobile 3G network. I am only able to use 2G/EDGE.
Voice and data quality are very bad, almost the phone is unusable. I spoke with T-Mobile and was informed that my modem does not support 1700 MHz and there are effort to re-farm TMobile network to support 3G on 1900Mhz but not set date yet. When I scan for available network I get three networks were available
T-Mobile 2G
AT&T 3G
AT&T 2G
Operating System: Android 4.2.1 OS
Processor: 1.2GHz MTK MT6589 quad-core processor
Connectivity Technology: GSM network & WCDMA - Standard SIM card
Network Band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz & WCDMA 850/2100MHz
Data Technology: GPRS, EDGE, HSPA
Baseband version
MOlY.WR8.W1248.MD.WG.MP.V2.P1
I would appreciate any help to get my phone to work on 3G.
YAF said:
I purchased the newly released UMI X2 Android phone. I am unable to use the TMobile 3G network. I am only able to use 2G/EDGE.
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Did you make any progress with this? I recently purchased UMI X2, for use with T-Mobile UK. But have the same problem of not being able to connect to 3G networks - it works okay on 2G/EDGE.
I know the phone supports 3G on 2100MHz, and there's been some debate whether it supports 850/900MHz as well, but I've not found a definitive answer to that.
There's an operator in the UK (Hutchinson 3G UK Ltd) that only have a license for 2100MHz. So I was expecting the phone to work fine on their network- but no go... phone won't register on network at all - even though it shows in the available networks list.
I'm now searching to see if anyone else has been having problems - as it's beginning to look like faulty phone hardware - rather than trying to use unsupported frequencies...
acid meaand
I am still in the same situation, I am unable to use the 3G network for T-Mobile.
I am looking into getting 4G Wireless Hotspot modem $50 from the same carrier, use my SIM card on the modem, and use my UMI X2 as pure IP phone. There are many issues, but it looks promising.
Please keep me updated with any progress you make.
Regards;
I have the same problem...
I have this same problem with a operator here in Brazil. Every 3G operator in Brazil, using 2.1GHz band, works fine except one: VIVO.
I can see the network when I click on "manual search", but the phone can't connect. My baseband is:
moly.wr8.w1248.md.wg.mp.v7.p1 2013/04/10 00:39
How can change this baseband to another? I tried to update firmware but unfortunately the newest firmware has the same baseband version.
firmware update will not solve the problem
Firmware update will not solve the problem. Until the manufacture identifies the problem and provides a solution, the problem is outstanding.
Beside the hardware has to be compatible and can support more frequencies which no one can confirm for the UMI or any other chines unlocked phones.
But, this is just my humble opinion.
I Found a solution (at least for me)
I think I found a solution for my problem. I flashed this very new (2013/07/17) rom, with a new baseband MOLY.WR8.W1248.MD.WG.MP.V7.F2.P1, 2013/07/10 23:14 that corrects 3G dropouts and disconnects. Now my 3g works find, with H and sometimes H+. Fast and reliable like it should be. The link for this new ROM is:
http://www.needrom.com/mobile/umi-x2-based-official-for-europeus/
Thanks for the update.
I have two questions.
1- There are two files in the link you provided UMI-X2-basedon_Official_250613.zip and UPDATE_UMI-X2-THB-ROM-based_on_Official_170713.zip. Which do use?
2- You mentioned the updated corrected 3G dropouts and disconnects, but do you know if the update have these frequencies to get 3G?
3G (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 42
P.S
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) original specs
YAF said:
Thanks for the update.
I have two questions.
1- There are two files in the link you provided UMI-X2-basedon_Official_250613.zip and UPDATE_UMI-X2-THB-ROM-based_on_Official_170713.zip. Which do use?
2- You mentioned the updated corrected 3G dropouts and disconnects, but do you know if the update have these frequencies to get 3G?
3G (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 42
P.S
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) original specs
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I used the file UPDATE_UMI-X2-THB-ROM-based_on_Official_170713.zip. It was based on the Official ROM from 07/17/2013, but I was unable to find the official stock version. This version has a very new bandbase that, supposedly, fixed the problem with 3G on some operators.
3G on Brazil is on 2100 MHz, sometimes on 850MHz but in my case the problem was on 2.1GHz band. Three WCDMA operators in Brazil, all in the same 2.1GHz frequency, work fine, but VIVO doesn't. Now, with the new rom, it works with no drop outs for over a day now.
no changes or additional frequencies
I successfully applied the update but no changes or additional frequencies
I have serious issues with HSDPA, t-mobile uk works but only on GPRS and it keeps dropping out. GiffGaff seems to work without dropping out. It has worked for a minute on HSDPA today but only once. Other than that t-mobile has been dropping out badly. GPRS works for a bit then it drops out. I have took an MTK modem log with MobileUncle Tools to see what it says but haven't looked at it yet. Trying to work out if it is a hardware issue or Baseband.
I get this from my X2 Radio Logcat:
https://www.friendpaste.com/2ltEW0wuHjzkDZiRQb9m7g
hi everyone, i have UMI X2 and i repair the bad gsm signal, i put to gsm connector Cu wire and signal now working very good!!!!!! sorry for my english i am from slovakia
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00alkskodi00 said:
hi everyone, i have UMI X2 and i repair the bad gsm signal, i put to gsm connector Cu wire and signal now working very good!!!!!! sorry for my english i am from slovakia
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Hi,
do you have a description and a photo of how you did it?
How long the Cu wire has to be? And where to connect it?
Many thanks in advance.

4G problem

Hello community what a great help can someone found from here ... so here we go ...
My problem is i turn on my mobile data to get 4g then stay's for a while but then it dissapears and then drops down to E and it wont change from there ... and in order to bring back the 4G i need to restart the phone or to shut it down and turn it on again ...
do i need to change my rom or i need to change / flash my radio ? rom is the stock rom i think i got on it ( 5.0.1 sense 6.0 )
see attachment
thx in advance
What is your location and carrier, and what bands do they use for 3G and LTE?
redpoint73 said:
What is your location and carrier, and what bands do they use for 3G and LTE?
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my location is cyprus and my carrier is MTN now the bands i think are these but i am not sure i just find out now from a website http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
Cyprus 900 1800 3G 2100 MTN / 3G 2100 Cytamobile-Vodafone / 4G LTE MTN / 4G LTE PrimeTel;
italianveins said:
my location is cyprus and my carrier is MTN now the bands i think are these but i am not sure i just find out now from a website http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
Cyprus 900 1800 3G 2100 MTN / 3G 2100 Cytamobile-Vodafone / 4G LTE MTN / 4G LTE PrimeTel;
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That doesn't tell me what band MTN uses for LTE (4G). You should call your carrier and ask them (and confirm they use 2100 MHz for 3G).
redpoint73 said:
That doesn't tell me what band MTN uses for LTE (4G). You should call your carrier and ask them (and confirm they use 2100 MHz for 3G).
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ok i go tomorrow morning at there office and ask them in person what you just ask me .
thank you in advance as always very much i appriciate ur time as well
italianveins said:
ok i go tomorrow morning at there office and ask them in person what you just ask me .
thank you in advance as always very much i appriciate ur time as well
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ok so frequencies are from 900 - 1800 for all speeds E up tp 4G and are using At&T Mobile
italianveins said:
ok so frequencies are from 900 - 1800 for all speeds E up tp 4G and are using At&T Mobile
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I take this to mean 900 and 1800 MHz (bands 8 and 3), rather than the way you have it typed "from 900 - 1800" which makes it sound like a range, which doesn't make any sense.
I also don't think this information is correct (as I've interpreted it), as far as I can tell, 1800 MHz (Band 3) is not used for 3G anywhere in the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands#Deployments_by_region_.28UMTS-FDD.29
You need to be sure of exactly what band is used for each (2G, 3G, LTE), before we can proceed:
What band (or bands) used for 2G?
What band (or bands) used for 3G?
What band (or bands) used for LTE?
It pretty rare that the same exact band or bands are used for all 3 (2G, 3G and LTE) by one carrier, so the answer is expected to be different for each, and should be asked, and answered on an individual basis.
Reason we need to be so specific here, is that there is no radio for this phone that supports Bands 3 and 8 across 2G, 3G and LTE (and in fact, no radio that supports Band 3 for 3G).
Once you've properly determined what bands are needed, and identified what M8 version supports those bands, the way to proceed would be:
1) S-off by sunshine
Note: If sunshine temp root doesn't work, you may need to unlock bootloader and root, before you can s-off with sunshin
2) Possibly need to change phone's CID and/or MID
3) Flash the firmware or RUU which contains the desired radio baseband
Even then, its not guaranteed that LTE will work. I've see a good number of folks on these forums that properly flashed the radio baseband (or converted to another version by RUU) that supports the desired bands, but still didn't get LTE service. I don't know why this happens, and have never seen a solution. But its a distinct possibility.
But at a minimum, you should be able to get 3G working on your carrier. Which alone may make the above process worthwhile.
redpoint73 said:
I take this to mean 900 and 1800 MHz (bands 8 and 3), rather than the way you have it typed "from 900 - 1800" which makes it sound like a range, which doesn't make any sense.
I also don't think this information is correct (as I've interpreted it), as far as I can tell, 1800 MHz (Band 3) is not used for 3G anywhere in the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands#Deployments_by_region_.28UMTS-FDD.29
You need to be sure of exactly what band is used for each (2G, 3G, LTE), before we can proceed:
What band (or bands) used for 2G?
What band (or bands) used for 3G?
What band (or bands) used for LTE?
It pretty rare that the same exact band or bands are used for all 3 (2G, 3G and LTE) by one carrier, so the answer is expected to be different for each, and should be asked, and answered on an individual basis.
Reason we need to be so specific here, is that there is no radio for this phone that supports Bands 3 and 8 across 2G, 3G and LTE (and in fact, no radio that supports Band 3 for 3G).
Once you've properly determined what bands are needed, and identified what M8 version supports those bands, the way to proceed would be:
1) S-off by sunshine
Note: If sunshine temp root doesn't work, you may need to unlock bootloader and root, before you can s-off with sunshin
2) Possibly need to change phone's CID and/or MID
3) Flash the firmware or RUU which contains the desired radio baseband
Even then, its not guaranteed that LTE will work. I've see a good number of folks on these forums that properly flashed the radio baseband (or converted to another version by RUU) that supports the desired bands, but still didn't get LTE service. I don't know why this happens, and have never seen a solution. But its a distinct possibility.
But at a minimum, you should be able to get 3G working on your carrier. Which alone may make the above process worthwhile.
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Hello and thank you very much for you time i will go again and ask for more direct info's about bands individual
i have found back up of a radio and i flash my phone and now i do get LTE singnal's but hardly get H and 3G when no 4G detected it goes to E ... well ....
now i got another problem maybe i shou ld post a new thread ... my gestures won't work suddenly ( omg !! ) i calibrate and uncheck and reboot and check them from setting's over and over nothing worked
italianveins said:
i have found back up of a radio and i flash my phone and now i do get LTE singnal's but hardly get H and 3G when no 4G detected it goes to E ... well ....
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You need to specify exactly what you flashed, and where you got it from, for this info be worthwhile in any way.
Also, still need to know what bands your carrier is using, in order to determine what radio to flash.
Why you are flashing radios, without knowing if its the right one (supports your carrier's bands)? This is really careless and reckless.
Is the phone s-off? That is normally the only way you can flash radios manually (aside from a signed OTA, RUU, firmware.zip). And flashing things with s-off is a great way to brick the phone, if you flash the wrong thing (and it doesn't sound like you know well enough to know right vs. wrong).

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