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Does anyone know how I can install applications to non volatile memory on an XDA II, so that it can survive a hard reset. Any help would be appreciated. :?:
From what I read is that you will have to add your apps into the extende rom.
There is some info / threads on this site.
Basically:
1. Get a good 'standard' rom (ie the one youre using now, remeber that alle operator specific things are setup from within the extended rom tooo!)
2. Use er2003edit to edit the extended rom part of it
3. add / remove files and change the config.txt appropiately.
4. Flash the extended rom with your homebrew extende rom.
After hard-reset, the extende rom will be 'run' according to config.txt . . .
Thanks I will give it a go
This will only load the cab files to extended rom, when you install them they will still load into normal memeory.
I used the extended rom unlocker, copied all the cab files to an sd card and deleted them from extended rom, and then finally installed my apps choosing extended rom and the destination
Hope this helps
How did you manage to choose the destination? I've put a cab file on an SD card, but when I tap on it, it just installs it to the main windows folder.
astryger, have you unlocked your extended rom?
Yes, I've unlocked it.
Hi,
looking for a guide to cook my own Ext Rom. I have looked at the Wiki, but found only tools for the Wiz. Can I use the same tools, or will I get into trouble. If there is a good Uni walk-thru available it would be highly appreciated. I already searched the forum, but did not find what I was looking for...
Thanks.
ireneus said:
Hi,
looking for a guide to cook my own Ext Rom. I have looked at the Wiki, but found only tools for the Wiz. Can I use the same tools, or will I get into trouble. If there is a good Uni walk-thru available it would be highly appreciated. I already searched the forum, but did not find what I was looking for...
Thanks.
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I unlocked my Extended ROM but I delete stuff it in. It seems its read only. Can anyone help me clean it up? I am sure that the WM speed will increase if the Ext ROM is clean. Also how can i lock it back after i clean it?
nuclear said:
I unlocked my Extended ROM but I delete stuff it in. It seems its read only. Can anyone help me clean it up? I am sure that the WM speed will increase if the Ext ROM is clean. Also how can i lock it back after i clean it?
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read only? after a softreset the files are still there? so u can use extended ROM "unhider" from indra.AKU3.2.BETA5R2....so u unhide and unlock it...then delete and the files are deleted forever ;-)
see attached ZIP ;-) install / execute both on PPC
pixx said:
read only? after a softreset the files are still there? so u can use extended ROM "unhider" from indra.AKU3.2.BETA5R2....so u unhide and unlock it...then delete and the files are deleted forever ;-)
see attached ZIP ;-) install / execute both on PPC
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Yes after a soft reset i still see the extended rom and all the files within it. The files are those Cingular and all those service providers etc and some skype and other stuff. The extended ROM is giving me 10MB of space on the device and I find it quite valuable. Rather than having it occupied by unneccessary stuff. Now this Ext-ROM unhider you speak of will let me write/read things from the Ext-ROM? Does it work with other AKU versions? Like helmi's aku 3.5? Thanks pixx
Be Careful
As always, care needs to be taken unlocking and unhiding the ExtRom. You can use the tools provided and they work well.
- First make sure to rename your 'storage card' to something else than 'storage card' since unhiding the ExtRom will make that the 'Storage Card' and your apps will not run from the SD anymore..
- It is not possible (as far as I know) to lock the ExtRom once you run the tools. But you can delete all the files inside to make it clean.
- The extended Rom space (10MB) cannnot be merge with the other storage, but you can install apps to it, or use it as storage space for attachments or whatever.
I am still lookng for a cookbook to make my own ExtRom...
ireneus said:
As always, care needs to be taken unlocking and unhiding the ExtRom. You can use the tools provided and they work well.
- First make sure to rename your 'storage card' to something else than 'storage card' since unhiding the ExtRom will make that the 'Storage Card' and your apps will not run from the SD anymore..
- It is not possible (as far as I know) to lock the ExtRom once you run the tools. But you can delete all the files inside to make it clean.
- The extended Rom space (10MB) cannnot be merge with the other storage, but you can install apps to it, or use it as storage space for attachments or whatever.
I am still lookng for a cookbook to make my own ExtRom...
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Alright I formatted the Ext-ROM ^^ . Now that its empty i will relock it which will speed up the device right?
No (re-)lock possible afterwards... just leave it as is.
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No (re-)lock possible afterwards... just leave it as is.
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No relock possible even after a hard reset? A hard reset usually restores the device to an unmodified state but it doesnt restore the data right?
Never tried the hard reset uption so I can't tell if that will work, I flash my device about once a week with different (new) versions.
I may try next time I flash. Does anyone know?
Actually there is a way to relock the Ext ROM. I can't find the thread I read it from, but from what I remember you have to copy the registry settings BEFORE you unlock the Ext ROM. Then install Buzz's Ext ROM Unlocker. After a soft reset, the Ext ROM is now unlocked. Now customized it to your heart's content. Then cut and paste the original Registry settings to replace the new one. Another soft reset and your Ext ROM is now locked again. This is what I read from another thread. I had never tried this proceedure myself, so I can't guarantee it will work.
But, this is what I usually do whenever I customized my Ext ROMs:
1st: Install Buzz's Ext ROM Unlocker.
2nd: Soft Reset.
3rd: Customized the Ext ROM with CAB files.
4th: Perform a Hard reset to check if all the CAB files installed properly.
5th: Once I know every CAB files worked and installed properly, I now proceed with installing my other applications.
So basically, my rule whenever customizing my Ext ROM is: DO IT FIRST BEFORE INSTALLING THE REST OF YOUR APPS. This way you don't have to worry about LOCKING it afterwards.
Sounds like a plan
The next time I will apply a new ROM (probably within the next couple of days) I will try this. One more question: Do I have to backup the entire registry, or are there some specific settings I should back up?
Merry Christmas!
ireneus said:
The next time I will apply a new ROM (probably within the next couple of days) I will try this. One more question: Do I have to backup the entire registry, or are there some specific settings I should back up?
Merry Christmas!
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As mentioned, I myself had not tried that approach. But to be sure, make a copy of the entire Registry and try it.
Another suggestion, if you have SPB Backup, this I already tried, so I know it works. Use SPB Backup to DO A BACKUP OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM BEFORE INSTALLING THE EXT ROM UNLOCKER. After the backup, install Ext ROM unlocker and unlock the Ext ROM. You can now customize your Ext ROM any way you want. To RELOCK it, just run SPB Backup to the BACKUP you created before you installed Ext ROM Unlocker.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!
cktlcmd said:
As mentioned, I myself had not tried that approach. But to be sure, make a copy of the entire Registry and try it.
Another suggestion, if you have SPB Backup, this I already tried, so I know it works. Use SPB Backup to DO A BACKUP OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM BEFORE INSTALLING THE EXT ROM UNLOCKER. After the backup, install Ext ROM unlocker and unlock the Ext ROM. You can now customize your Ext ROM any way you want. To RELOCK it, just run SPB Backup to the BACKUP you created before you installed Ext ROM Unlocker.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!
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@Ireneus
If your purpose is just to delete the files in the "\Extended_ROM" (actual name when hidden) without unhiding it, there are a few ways, all works.
Method 1
- Google, download & install "Total Commander v2.exe" (freeware).
- In Total Commander's command line, just type \Extended_ROM , and you will see it.
- Before you do anything, suggest you copy everything to somewhere in case you need it back again.
- And now you can do anything to it. If it is really "READ" only, Total Commander also can "UNREAD" it. Think Total Commander can delete files with the "atrributes" (hidden, read, system, archive).
Method 2
- Download Helmi_c AKU3.5 V1.3, extract it, look for the ms_nbf in the Empty_Extended_rom, flash only this ms_nbf into you device, it should be empty.
Method 3 (need to unhide first)
- I am lasy to find out which Registry, so before unhide, I copied all the "Registry HKCR, HKCU & HKLM" (hidden).
- download Extrom_Unhider.cab & UNI_ext_rom_unlock.exe (should be in this forum or FTP)
- run Extrom_Unhider.cab first and following by running UNI_ext_rom_unlock.exe, you have unhide & unlock the "\ExtendedROM".
- Press POWER key to powerdown, then Soft Reset.
- You can also now copy "Registry HKCR, HKCU & HKLM" (unhidden/unlock) to different location of above "Registry HKCR, HKCU & HKLM" (hidden).
- So depend you want to hide/lock or unhide/unlock, just copy the respective set of registry. Easy.
@cktlcmd
Copy of Registry & copy back was my posting, anyway I also cannot find where it is, but it works, I tried it myself.
Hi,
I installed the LVSW (Pro Style) 15/3/07.
I synchronized it with exchange, and when going through the options to shove all the attachments onto the microSD card.
Although it [options] only displays that there's only 2.76mb free - IT'S 1GB card with over 700MB free. Could this have something to do with Extended Rom being available? [I installed the 3DES.1 ROM before and unlocked Extended Rom].
Question 2:
Now that Extended Rom is open - I want to delete some of the things on there, that I will never use - like Operator specific programs. Although I don't have permissions ?!
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Hi,
I installed the LVSW (Pro Style) 15/3/07.
I synchronized it with exchange, and when going through the options to shove all the attachments onto the microSD card.
Although it [options] only displays that there's only 2.76mb free - IT'S 1GB card with over 700MB free. Could this have something to do with Extended Rom being available? [I installed the 3DES.1 ROM before and unlocked Extended Rom].
Question 2:
Now that Extended Rom is open - I want to delete some of the things on there, that I will never use - like Operator specific programs. Although I don't have permissions ?!
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1. - This can be changed by changing the Ext ROM directory in the Registry to say Storage Card 2... as the inbox application searches for the first available Storage it doesnt give you an option...
2. use HTweakC application to unhide and allow write access to the ext_rom... but you must have either installed Olipro's patched driver or SuperCID'ed your device to have write permissions...
great - thank you.
for now - i've disabled the 'extended', and it's all back to normal - although I'll look into deleting some files off there this weekend.
thanks
Your instructions say:
1. - This can be changed by changing the Ext ROM directory in the Registry to say Storage Card 2... as the inbox application searches for the first available Storage it doesnt give you an option...
I'm using Total Commander to attempt to edit this value in the registry, but can't locate it. Tried searching for "Ext ROM" and "ExtROM". Where in the registry can the Ext ROM directory name be changed to Storage Card 2?
Thanks much!
The following is the whold story.
This morning I downloaded the 1.41 radio and was going to flash this radio rom. Then I took out the SIM card from my Hermes and reset the device. After the today screen appears, there is the warnings said the programs with shotcut in \windows\startup can not run as the programs can't not be found,but unluckly I ignored the warnings.
Then I made a .nbh file including the primary flash screen, second flash screen
and the radio and flashed this .nbh file. After the flash was done, there was an extended rom2 and the total memory of this extended rom2 is 0.48M. The total extended rom memory was 0.48M as well. But when I went to setting-system-memory-storage card, there was the extended rom2 only with the total memory of 0.48M. Then I hard reset the device, the extended rom2 was gone and there is the extended rom left only and the total memory is 0.48M.
I flashed another WM6 ROM, went back to WM5 and then radio 1.40, but the memory is 0.48M still.
Pls can anybody help!!!
Did you flash a Rom with Extended Rom or without it?
p.loong said:
Did you flash a Rom with Extended Rom or without it?
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no extended rom. Actually the following is the whold story.
This morning I downloaded the 1.41 radio and was going to flash this radio rom. Then I took out the SIM card from my Hermes and reset the device. After the today screen appears, there is the warnings said the programs with shotcut in \windows\startup can not run as the programs can't not be found,but unluckly I ignored the warnings.
Then I made a .nbh file including the primary flash screen, second flash screen
and the radio and flashed this .nbh file. After the flash was done, there was a extended rom2 and the memory of this extended rom is 0.48M. The extended rom memory was 0.48M as well. But when I went to setting-system-memory-storage card, there was the extended rom2 only with the memory of 0.48M. Then I hard reset the device, the extended rom2 was gone and there is the extended rom left only and the memory is 0.48M.
I flashed another WM6 ROM, went back to WM5 and then radio 1.40, but the memory is 0.48M still.
Is there anything to do to correct this? All the ROMs I flashed without the extended rom included.
How much do you normaly have?
p.loong said:
How much do you normaly have?
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10+M
I believe this should be the correct one
is yr device unlock cid?if yes unhide your extended rom delete the stuff in it make sure the stuff you really don't want.
if you are not unlock cid use the extended rom editor make a empty extended rom flash your device.
but make sure you have read the wiki how to do everthing.
if you brick your device i will not responsable for anything.
edit:why do you need a empty extended rom for?
p.loong said:
is yr device unlock cid?if yes unhide your extended rom delete the stuff in it make sure the stuff you really don't want.
if you are not unlock cid use the extended rom editor make a empty extended rom flash your device.
but make sure you have read the wiki how to do everthing.
if you brick your device i will not responsable for anything.
edit:why do you need a empty extended rom for?
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yes. I have the unlocked cid on my Hermes and have unlocked the extended rom otherwise I can't see the extended rom with the file explorer.
I'm not wanting an empty extended rom. I'm just wondering where the memory's gone and I need them to come back as I can install some applications in it for which the re-install is not needed after a hard reset and also I can put the ring tone and data like this in it.
Anyway thank you all the same, p.loong^_^
Just flash a Rom with a Extended Rom and delete all the stuff in it you will get back the space.
Or use extended rom editor search at this forum make a empty extended rom.
p.loong said:
Just flash a Rom with a Extended Rom and delete all the stuff in it you will get back the space.
Or use extended rom editor search at this forum make a empty extended rom.
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I'm trying...
Thank you p loong~~~
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I'm trying...
Thank you p loong~~~
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Well...I flashed a ROM with the extended ROM just now, but nothing changed. It's 0.48M still and the extended rom cannot be flashed as there is not enogh space for the extended rom.....
Hey...can someone help me? I want to get back the lost space of the extended rom?
seasky3246 said:
Hey...can someone help me? I want to get back the lost space of the extended rom?
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The only thing I can think to do is the following (in order):
1. Uninstall ALL applications through active sync.
2. Check no programs left installed through the phones add/remove program icon. If there are any programs installed then uninstall them.
3. Run MountExtROM_v2.cab followed by ExtROMPatcher.exe (attached here as .zip file). This should guarantee that the ext rom is unlocked and unhidden.
4. Through your PC file explorer, navigate to mobile device and see if there are any files on the ext rom - if there are delete them all.
You can now hard reset or install a new OS Rom and all should (hopefully) be ok.
I Always use the above 2 files to unlock/unhide my ext rom IMMEDIATELY after a rom upgrade - this is because I've had problems before with not seeing the ext rom (and 0.48MB rings a bell in distant memory).
Let us know if this works ok.
Hey ach2, I will try immediately although it's 11:24pm now
thanks for your input~~~
I should let you know the result~~~
Well...it looks like that I have to give up the extend rom on my Hermes. I followed ach2's instruction just now but nothing changed....so bad....
Thank you p.loong and ach2 anyway~~~
I'm confused here! You should be able to reflash an ExT_Rom only on your device and then delete everything in the ext_rom if its unlocked right. Hell if its unlocked right you should be able to go in there and delete everything right now. your not doing something right i would flash a OS.nb and a Ext_rom.nb at the same time!
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I'm confused here! You should be able to reflash an ExT_Rom only on your device and then delete everything in the ext_rom if its unlocked right. Hell if its unlocked right you should be able to go in there and delete everything right now. your not doing something right i would flash a OS.nb and a Ext_rom.nb at the same time!
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There is the extended rom, but just that its memory has been changed from around 10M to 0.48M.
I tried to flash a rom contains the OS and extend rom, but the extended rom can not be flashed into the device and just like that there is not the extended rom in the rom I flashed at all.
There were 2 extended rom's which are extended rom and extended rom2 once in the file explorer. And the 0.48M is the memory of the extended rom2, but I can't find the extended rom in setting-sytem-memory-storage card. After a hard reset, the extended rom2 was gone and the extend rom left only with the total memory of 0.48M.
Is it possible that this is a hardware problem?
why cant you flash a EXT_ROM? no it does not look like a hardware issue it just looks like you are not doing something right
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why cant you flash a EXT_ROM? no it does not look like a hardware issue it just looks like you are not doing something right
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Are you meaning flash a extended rom only without the OS?
yes just use Koch and make an EXT_rom.nb into a .nbh and flsah it
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yes just use Koch and make an EXT_rom.nb into a .nbh and flsah it
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OK~Thanks austinsnyc. I will try tomorrow and let you know the result...it's too late now and I've to get some sleep....
You can use extended rom as a permanent storage without unhiding the drive. The main benefit is that Pocket Outlook does not see it as a storage device and make it the primary storage over your storage card.
Instruction:
1) Unhide extended rom (either with Advanced config or do it manually via registry)
2) Create a Folder in Extended Rom
3) Make a short cut of that folder and place it in My Device or anywhere you want.
4) Hide Extended rom.
You can now access extended rom from the shortcut. Windows will not see it as a storage card.
Some known issues:
1) Up directory button does not work when you are in the extended rom folder shortcut. You need to use the drop down box to change directory
2) The extended rom folder does not automatically refreshes itself. You need to get out of the folder and get back in to see changes.
Another odd thing I noticed is that when I dump my extended rom out with itutils, extrom extractor says the format is invalid. And if I flash the extended rom, it will say the image is corrupted. If anybody could dump the extended rom out for me with nothing but a folder called Storage in it, that'd be great
Schap's uses his extended ROM to store some files in them and access it through shortcuts...predominantly exes, and I have tried them too, it sure does work.
But I think there is a limitation on how many exes you can have in there!! When I had more than 10 exes one time, extended ROM did not work very well...but when I reduced the count, everything worked great..
Just my 2 cents.
You can definitely run exes in there. However, this thread is not to tell people that you can run exes in there, which had been discovered some time ago. As far as I know, almost all cooks either fill the extended rom with cabs for auto installation, or some exes that doesn't require hard coded files in windows to run. Others will unhide the extended rom (which I did previously) so that you can use it as storage. This is about the latter case, but with this method you'd avoid the pocket outlook storage card issue if you decide to use extended rom as a storage card.