You can use extended rom as a permanent storage without unhiding the drive. The main benefit is that Pocket Outlook does not see it as a storage device and make it the primary storage over your storage card.
Instruction:
1) Unhide extended rom (either with Advanced config or do it manually via registry)
2) Create a Folder in Extended Rom
3) Make a short cut of that folder and place it in My Device or anywhere you want.
4) Hide Extended rom.
You can now access extended rom from the shortcut. Windows will not see it as a storage card.
Some known issues:
1) Up directory button does not work when you are in the extended rom folder shortcut. You need to use the drop down box to change directory
2) The extended rom folder does not automatically refreshes itself. You need to get out of the folder and get back in to see changes.
Another odd thing I noticed is that when I dump my extended rom out with itutils, extrom extractor says the format is invalid. And if I flash the extended rom, it will say the image is corrupted. If anybody could dump the extended rom out for me with nothing but a folder called Storage in it, that'd be great
Schap's uses his extended ROM to store some files in them and access it through shortcuts...predominantly exes, and I have tried them too, it sure does work.
But I think there is a limitation on how many exes you can have in there!! When I had more than 10 exes one time, extended ROM did not work very well...but when I reduced the count, everything worked great..
Just my 2 cents.
You can definitely run exes in there. However, this thread is not to tell people that you can run exes in there, which had been discovered some time ago. As far as I know, almost all cooks either fill the extended rom with cabs for auto installation, or some exes that doesn't require hard coded files in windows to run. Others will unhide the extended rom (which I did previously) so that you can use it as storage. This is about the latter case, but with this method you'd avoid the pocket outlook storage card issue if you decide to use extended rom as a storage card.
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Does anyone know how I can install applications to non volatile memory on an XDA II, so that it can survive a hard reset. Any help would be appreciated. :?:
From what I read is that you will have to add your apps into the extende rom.
There is some info / threads on this site.
Basically:
1. Get a good 'standard' rom (ie the one youre using now, remeber that alle operator specific things are setup from within the extended rom tooo!)
2. Use er2003edit to edit the extended rom part of it
3. add / remove files and change the config.txt appropiately.
4. Flash the extended rom with your homebrew extende rom.
After hard-reset, the extende rom will be 'run' according to config.txt . . .
Thanks I will give it a go
This will only load the cab files to extended rom, when you install them they will still load into normal memeory.
I used the extended rom unlocker, copied all the cab files to an sd card and deleted them from extended rom, and then finally installed my apps choosing extended rom and the destination
Hope this helps
How did you manage to choose the destination? I've put a cab file on an SD card, but when I tap on it, it just installs it to the main windows folder.
astryger, have you unlocked your extended rom?
Yes, I've unlocked it.
Did someone of you all talented and gifted people found a way to delete\add programs in the JJ extended rom?
i keep deleting them using the total commander and they keep coming back after a hard reset.
As i understand:
1) All cellular network operator specifications found in the extended rom are taking a lot of memory space that can be freed.
2) The anti-virus program is slowing the whole thing operation as it is allways running on the background.
3) I know other cab files i would like to add to the extended rom in order that they will be installed automatically after a hard reset.
What do you think?
You can find the three cab files for the CA anti-virus, backgammon, and Skype, on the xda ftp site. Go to wiki.xda-developers.com, find the ftp link most of the way down that page, scroll down to Universal, click on the link under Universal uploads, then click on the extended rom folder on the ftp site and Joe Bongo.zip under that.
Use add / remove program to uninstall these three programs - anti-virus, backgammon, and Skype. After they're uninstalled, in turn, tap on the cap file for each of these three apps and when the install dialog comes up, choose to install TO THE SD CARD.
It says there is a problem installing the anti-virus program on the SD, but it's not true, it works fine from the SD card. Putting the three apps anti-virus, backgammon, and Skype on the SD card frees up about 4.2MB of space in ROM (storage).
Don't hard reset and these apps won't wind up back in the ROM. You don't need to hard reset unless you are installing an new ROM.
Alternately, you can go the more involved route in the link below to free up a little more space. If you get the Joe Bongo extended ROM, you'll see that there are 7 other cab files in the extended ROM. They take up about 0.5 MB of space. I'm not going to hard reset my device to save 0.5 MB of ROM space, because it's not that much space and I'll lose all of my settings on hard reset.
http://wiki.howardforums.com/pocketpc/index.php/Selectively_Bypassing_the_Extended_ROM
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Hi cool_case and thank you for your reply
what i wanted is something totaly different
1) i wanted to delete the files i do not need from the extended rom (to free up some memory)
2) i wanted to add programs i do need, to the extended rom (to make installation automatic after a hard reset)
as you probably know, when i remove programs allready installed (like the anti-virus) i am never 100% sure what registry changes were made (altough i am deleting all changes i know of, using a registry editor).
Hi aseptic,
One of the xda-developers aces will be fairly like to figure out how to create a special ROM image that doesn't have have the extended ROM stuff in it. You may be familar with the Anansky hack (and later easier methods) posted in early summer here for the xda mini (JAM) that freed up about 27MB of 'storage'.
okay i will be waiting
The thing about deleting things from the extended rom to free up memory is that the extended rom is already partitioned so deleting things from the extended rom will not actually free up space. It will only prevent the deleted things from installing the next time you hard reset.
We will need some sort of other hack to free up this partitioned space (big storage hack). Just deleting them from the extended rom will not do what you're hoping for.
This WORKED for me!!
Following the instructions listed on this page I was able to reclaim 15M+ for Storage and Programs on my JasJar.
http://wiki.howardforums.com/pocketpc/index.php/Selectively_Bypassing_the_Extended_ROM
Not to bore you guys with result details here is how it played out with application installation:
After hard reset with Extended ROM bypass (eliminating Backgammon/Antivirus/Skype)
Storage 39.52 Program 28.27
After first ActiveSync 4.1 Storage 34.53 Program 21.29
Installs with soft reset after each:
Resco File Explorer Storage 33.31 Program 21.39 (?)
SPB Imageer ' 30.03 21.35
Pocket Artist 3 28.08 21.55
Listpro 4 27.24 21.45
PhatPad 26.42 20.84
MS Pocket Streets 5 25.92 20.75
TCPMP 24.28 20.25
Magic Button 24.15 20.44
NewsBreak 23.32 20.25
also on 2G SD Card Pocket Informant / MS Reader / Weather Panel
Sync includes 1,235 Contacts / 3 years of Calendar / 2 years of email (3 accounts) (attachments on SD) etc.
Bottom line Storage 19.67 Program 14.86
I wouldn't consider this too shabby.
Darn sight better than with the fluff on Extended ROM.
Hopefully this may be of interest
Noel
Thanks for the link to the hofo wiki with the very clear instructions for bypassing the extended_ROM installation.
What I had done before was use add-remove programs to remove Backgammon, the CA anti-virus, and Skype. Then, I used the cab files for these three apps found on the xda ftp site to install these three to the SD. This saved about 4.2MB of storage. People had said that this method didn't really remove the apps from ROM.
But, that's apparently not the case. I followed the instructions for bypassing the extended ROM installation above and wound up with about 1MB more of "storage" memory than was obtained by just removing the three apps above manually using add-remove. So, the method above works is a little better, because while you can manually remove the backgammon, anti-virus and skype, you can't manually remove the carrier settings.
Another good thing came of doing this -- Sunnysoft backup did a nice job of restoring settings, including Today Screen plug-in settings Haven't found any omissions yet, but as I don't sync pim data, can't comment on whether Sunnysoft does that.
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Hi,
I installed the LVSW (Pro Style) 15/3/07.
I synchronized it with exchange, and when going through the options to shove all the attachments onto the microSD card.
Although it [options] only displays that there's only 2.76mb free - IT'S 1GB card with over 700MB free. Could this have something to do with Extended Rom being available? [I installed the 3DES.1 ROM before and unlocked Extended Rom].
Question 2:
Now that Extended Rom is open - I want to delete some of the things on there, that I will never use - like Operator specific programs. Although I don't have permissions ?!
romka said:
Hi,
I installed the LVSW (Pro Style) 15/3/07.
I synchronized it with exchange, and when going through the options to shove all the attachments onto the microSD card.
Although it [options] only displays that there's only 2.76mb free - IT'S 1GB card with over 700MB free. Could this have something to do with Extended Rom being available? [I installed the 3DES.1 ROM before and unlocked Extended Rom].
Question 2:
Now that Extended Rom is open - I want to delete some of the things on there, that I will never use - like Operator specific programs. Although I don't have permissions ?!
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1. - This can be changed by changing the Ext ROM directory in the Registry to say Storage Card 2... as the inbox application searches for the first available Storage it doesnt give you an option...
2. use HTweakC application to unhide and allow write access to the ext_rom... but you must have either installed Olipro's patched driver or SuperCID'ed your device to have write permissions...
great - thank you.
for now - i've disabled the 'extended', and it's all back to normal - although I'll look into deleting some files off there this weekend.
thanks
Your instructions say:
1. - This can be changed by changing the Ext ROM directory in the Registry to say Storage Card 2... as the inbox application searches for the first available Storage it doesnt give you an option...
I'm using Total Commander to attempt to edit this value in the registry, but can't locate it. Tried searching for "Ext ROM" and "ExtROM". Where in the registry can the Ext ROM directory name be changed to Storage Card 2?
Thanks much!
Dopod ROM has Quickmark, and I removed it from add/remove programs. I noticed cab is still showing up in Ext Rom. Could I save space by removing? and what impact would it have on SR or HR? What other changes must I make? I plan on adding Quickmark to Storage card. 2nd question, I would like to remove Task Manager version 1 from device (presumably in Ext Rom,couldn't quite see the cab in extrom) and replace it by HTC x button 1.5 or 1.51.. How easy can this be done? I suppose I could just install this new version pure and simple, but trying to reduce redundancy .. I noticed a lot of posts lately on ExtRoms , as people are looking to the "outer limits" for the storage starved.
You could try to extract OS.nb to the dump folder using imgstool, remove task manager from that folder and recook.
You will not save any additional storage memory by removing Quickmark from extended memory. You have already freed up that storage memory by removing it as you have from "add/remove programs". You will free up some extended memory if you need to do that. The task manager is "baked in" to the rom, and is not taken from the extended rom.
Hope this helps,
stoker1 said:
Dopod ROM has Quickmark, and I removed it from add/remove programs. I noticed cab is still showing up in Ext Rom. Could I save space by removing? and what impact would it have on SR or HR? What other changes must I make? I plan on adding Quickmark to Storage card. 2nd question, I would like to remove Task Manager version 1 from device (presumably in Ext Rom,couldn't quite see the cab in extrom) and replace it by HTC x button 1.5 or 1.51.. How easy can this be done? I suppose I could just install this new version pure and simple, but trying to reduce redundancy .. I noticed a lot of posts lately on ExtRoms , as people are looking to the "outer limits" for the storage starved.
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You can delete (better yet move it to pc for backup purpose) the QuickMark-Dopod-Hermes-v3_2r2182.cab from extended rom and uninstall it. It will not affect your SR. But you might want to edit Config file and remove CAB: \Extended_ROM\QuickMark-Dopod-Hermes-v3_2r2182.CAB line, so that Autorun (auto config) will not produce error after HR.
As for the task manager, you can install the new version.. it will overwrite (if i'm not mistaken) version 1. But it didn't use much storage though..
Now, Iwhat i want to know is, if anybody could tell me which file in that ext rom is for the network wizard. I notice it is newer than p_netwiz_2.05_dopodasia_wwe_rtm_20060703.cab.
As I understand some of the ROMs run a set of cab-files aftewards. Is it possible to make an option that enable a user to choose a directory on the memorycard with cabfiles to be installed the same way on setup?
I ask because I need to innstall norwegian keyboard and settings, ant it would be nice to install the most usual cabfiles as well, would save me some time as I'm trying several of the ROMs issued here, and backup not allways compatible.
I don't believe this is possible as the phone does not see the card until the device is booted. Thus, this is why an extended rom is used onboard the device.
There is some apps that can do that. Not Automatic but you can choose 1 folder and then it will install all cab's inside that ROM.