I upgraded my Cingular 8525 to the "official" Cingular rom. I know it not possible to MAKE video calls but is it possible to receive them? If so, is that rom specific? If not, what do I need to install?
I dont think it's possible.. When accepting a video call, your device will initialize it's own video calling.. since the 8525 doesn't have video calling, if someone was trying to video call you, it would just be a normal phone call.
actually the 8525 should have video calling since it's based on the TyTN (same rom) but the feature is disabled in registry.
Now I have no idea what enabling the option would do since it doesn't have the front camera but from experience I know that someone with regular cellphone can place video calls to my TyTN without any problems (and I can send it back to them, albeit not on the cingular network).
Now Cingular uses a completely different protocol from what I heard. You can't even duplex video on the network yet so unless the protocol that is being used is not compatible then it may work.
Forgot to mention that im from the Philippines and that Vid Calling is available here.
if your phone is a Cingular 8525
than theres no front-facing Video Camera
so youd either be on Video, or watching them
doesnt that defeat the purpose of video calling anyways? not being able to see each other at the same time? lol
I think it MAY be available soon once AT&T actually releases the ROM. You can now add a video calling package onto your account so you aren't charged the amount for each minute (which is apparently $.25.). So sometime in the future it may be, but for now some 3G Phones do.
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I have an MDA C3. When web & walk is transferring internet Data and a call comes in, the phone does not ring. It goes directly to the voicemail.
T-Mobile customer service tell me that this is correct as you can either transfer internet data or make a call.
Is that right? I thought that was with WAP which is analagous to dial-up. Surely GPRS is analagous to Broadband.
Anyone else want to try this:
Go to Web & walk home page. Attempt loading up the guardian page (This will take a while). Whilst this is loading, call your phone number and see if it rings or goes direct to VM.
I spend lots of time browsing so I must be losing lots of calls!
Feedback greatly appreciated.
From what I have heard only UMTS devices can support simultaneous voice/data.
Yes - but not GRPS that uses GSM band instead of UMTS.
However, some devices have troubles keeping the data link active when a call comes in.
I am having the same issue (also on T-Mobile UK).
Then IE is running or AS is downloading my mail (I use direct push) all my calls go straight to voicemail.
This is worrying as I just moved over to T-Mobile for the web n walk package to allow me to have instant e-mails. This is a pain if it means I miss calls whilst my mail is downloading.
You'd think that the chances of the 2 coinciding are slim (I don't get a lot of mail, maybe 10 per day) but the wife has already complained 3 times since Friday that she went straight to voicemail, and each time it was exactly as i got a new mail.
Is this a limit of GPRS, the Orbit or just T-Mobile?
Thanks
Dae
I was surprised too... Thats why I posted the query. I thought my phone and/or SIm were faulty. But T-Mobile tell me thats how its supposed to work.
With W&W and Email, Its really hard for someone to get through with a voice call. It was worrying for me as I tend to browse the net whenever I am waiting around. This means that when I am on the bus surfing, no one can get through to me!!
Surely if there is a limitation, then the phone should give precendence to the Voice call. After all, you can pick up your emails or surfing where you left off.
I would really be interested to see if this is a T-Mobile only problem.
No itschase is spot on.
It's not a t-Mobile problem, it's the same for any GSM based network.
Only 3g (UMTS) phones can do data and voice at the same time. No matter what network you are on.
I have just run an experiment in the office as follows:-
Me (artemis with v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when data active
person 1 (MDA compact III - v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when active
person 2 (hermes) - no Voicemail when active.
We are all on t-mobile UK, and therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
Gajet said:
What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
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I incorrectly assumed that whilst browsing, if a voice call comes in, the phone would give priority to the call.
If I had known what I know now at the time I signed my 18M contract I would have bought a 3g Phone! Its just annoying that i'm stuck with it for another 12M. T-Mobile push the fact that they have set the internet free... but what they fail to get across to everyday users is that its "AT THE EXPENSE OF THE VOICE CALLS"
Because T-Mobile forced you to buy one of their 2.5g phones rather than one of their 3g phones?
I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
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Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
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As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
daesimps said:
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
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Hi,
It's not enough to have a class A (2G) device, but also DTM (Dual Transfer Mode/Simple Class A) support has to be active in the specific network, otherwise only 3G device on 3G network will provide Class A (simultaneous voice & data).
In fact, there are quite many models from Nokia during last year that support DTM, but as already mentioned, it's not enough.
FYI,
Zohar
cduijker said:
As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
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Is that an EDGE network ?
I got the Artemis with PV Black&Blue v3 ROM.
I can receive calls while pages are loading in IE.
I think this is a provider problem.
The phone provider has to intercept your GPRS connection and establish the GSM connection. Maybe T-Mobile just rejects calls while a GPRS connection/transfer is active.
A1 intercepts the page download and my call comes in.
When I pick up, the GPRS connection is closed completely. (not just pending)
So receiving calls while surfing is no problem for me with Austrian A1 provider.
Any other experiences?
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Is that an EDGE network ?
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no, just gprs; no edge.
cduijker said:
no, just gprs; no edge.
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...then it's no way you'll get simultaneous voice and data (class a).
I have read all over the internet it just takes a modification to the ROM for the 8525 to enable video sharing on atts network. Me and my wife have two 8525s. First step to making it work is you have to add the plan to your account which is 9.99 a month for each phone for 60 mins of video calls. Once you do that att will provision your phone to make video calls. Called HTC and they said its unsupported for the 8525 because it has no front camera. But they did tell me that hacking the ROM would enable it. Where am i missing this i have the video dial button but still does not work. It tells me failed to make video call. HAS anyone successfully made a video sharing call on the 8525?
Be aware of what you wish...
Old thread, but anywayz
Looks like what you have to do is:
Install one of the WM6 or WM6.1 ROMS.
Enable video call with your operator.
Buy and install the front cameras on your phones (as 8525 doesn't have front camera and the rear camera doesn't work for video call)
I did all of the above, and I can make video calls by now.
The "try again error" when you start a video call, in my experience shows up when:
One of the parties involved in the call dont have video call enabled by the operator.
The phone is not in 3G mode. Use the commcenter and make sure you have the 3G icon at the side of the start button (not E, for edge).
Hi all,
I haven't seen anyone mention one of the more hyped selling points of the TP2 - the Conference Call feature. Does it work? And more importantly, does it work on your network?
The reason I ask is I am on T-Mobile UK with my Kaiser (and my TP2 when it arrives tomorrow) and I cannot conference two calls together - when I press the conference button, it says "The operation failed". A little research on Google seems to suggest that T-Mo UK are probably the only operator globally who have this functionality disabled.
Will this mean that if the TP2 is ever released through T-Mo retail that it will have this function disabled? Is that why it has been delayed - they are upgrading their network to cope with conference calling?
I'd be interested to know, especially if anyone has already got one on T-Mo UK.
Cheers
Im not sure about T-Mo
However, the option you need is Call Waiting & Call Conferancing; this option usually need to be activated with your telco under VAS (Value Added Service); some may charge to have this function activated
the best you call T Mobile and ask specifically about this function
As I feared, T-Mobile UK don't support conference calling so that feature doesn't work. I phoned CS yesterday to ask, and all I got was "it may be supported in the future".
Actually I found my TyTn II did this yesterday. I put a call on hold and saw an exciting 'conference button' in the Opal dialer. Pushed it and I got some message about not being supported.
I'm on Orange.
UK o2 = No no no.
Pretty pointless feature when the network doesn't support it, I don' think many uk networks do, they have their own conference facitlity. (232 on o2 I think)
T-mobile (ben) Netherlands: Yes, totally works. did it with my old hermes 2 months ago
Vodafone in the Netherlands supports the conference call facility.
A question I have in relation to this subject: does anyone know whether it is possible to have incoming phone calls join in a conference call? Example: I have a call with A on the TP2 and B calls me on the TP2 during that call with A. Can I organize that B will join the same call? If so, how? Is there any maximum of calls that one can have in such a conference call?
Cheers, dela
Telus in Canada does NOT support the feature. BOOOO!
It works on Vodafone Portugal
Vodafone in NZ supports this but only for account customers and by default it's turned off but can be turned on request for free of cost.
DelaVandaag said:
Vodafone in the Netherlands supports the conference call facility.
A question I have in relation to this subject: does anyone know whether it is possible to have incoming phone calls join in a conference call? Example: I have a call with A on the TP2 and B calls me on the TP2 during that call with A. Can I organize that B will join the same call? If so, how? Is there any maximum of calls that one can have in such a conference call?
Cheers, dela
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Yes, you can pick up the incoming phone call and join in a conference call you started (works well with Orange & unbranded TP2).
Oliy said:
Hi all,
I haven't seen anyone mention one of the more hyped selling points of the TP2 - the Conference Call feature. Does it work? And more importantly, does it work on your network?
The reason I ask is I am on T-Mobile UK with my Kaiser (and my TP2 when it arrives tomorrow) and I cannot conference two calls together - when I press the conference button, it says "The operation failed". A little research on Google seems to suggest that T-Mo UK are probably the only operator globally who have this functionality disabled.
Will this mean that if the TP2 is ever released through T-Mo retail that it will have this function disabled? Is that why it has been delayed - they are upgrading their network to cope with conference calling?
I'd be interested to know, especially if anyone has already got one on T-Mo UK.
Cheers
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Your device already has Conference Call capability.
Using Conference Call is a network dependent feature. So, based on what your operator allows you (your phone subscription/plan) - you will be able to use it or not.
BTW, Conf call works great on Orange ...
Hope it helps.
Movistar in Mexico supports it, even on Prepaid, and for free (you just have to pay for both calls)
All Israeli operators (Orange, Cellcom & Pelefone) supports this feature
Mine worked twice on att then stopped, Any ideas why? I used it right when I got the phone then about 2 1/2 weeks ago and it worked great, now when I try I get two people on hold and the other call doesnt come through, and when I try to take the two peopl off hold is says it cant take the call off hold. Do you guys think this is a carrier issue like att not wanting me to use it or a phone/hardware issue?
Works with Vodafone UK
The Conference feature (aka Multiparty) requires a flag in your number's profile in HLR called "MPTY" activated. without that activated, you cannot make a conference call. contact your operator for this.
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It works on Vodafone Portugal
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I've been trying it on TMN-Portugal but no success at all...
credinho said:
I've been trying it on TMN-Portugal but no success at all...
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Actually my operator also have this service, but it wasn't activated in my number. Now it is... but it seems that the other numbers that you are making the conference also need to have this service activated, otherwise it won't work.
Other than the alpha CM7--I ran that for a while but really need Wifi calling as well.
According to the posts here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1379524 it looks like the SIP stack is still in place but that Samsung just crippled the settings menu options. It would be fantastic if all it took to restore the SIP calling features was to add back the menu items for setting up the accounts! I have no idea if that is something that is doable or not.
On my MT4G there were a number of ROMs, CM7 and Sense-based, that supported both Wifi Calling as well as SIP calling and I am really missing this ability.
No one else uses this awesome capability?
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No one else uses this awesome capability?
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Which app would you use? Since many ROMs already do WiFi calling, not sure there's a need for SIP calling. Or maybe I misunderstood the question?
Not an app, the native SIP calling built into Gingerbread. It's there in CM7 and it was there on my MT4G on multiple ROM's, along with Wifi calling.
Wifi calling is great if (a) you are using your T-Mo SIM and (b) you are calling the US. For example, my territory is Asia, so I have a VOIP service I use in Singapore and need to be able to connect to it while in the US so that I can call there cheaply. Right now I fall back to Google Voice, but that doesn't give the proper caller ID, etc.
Then, when I travel I put in a local SIM, so Wifi calling doesn't work anymore. So, I need to connect to a VOIP service in the US in order to call home cheaply.
Wifi calling and SIP calling are not mutually exclusive, but work well in tandem. Right now I still travel with my MT4G in order to do this, but it's on its last legs and needs to be retired quickly!
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Not an app, the native SIP calling built into Gingerbread. It's there in CM7 and it was there on my MT4G on multiple ROM's, along with Wifi calling.
Wifi calling is great if (a) you are using your T-Mo SIM and (b) you are calling the US. For example, my territory is Asia, so I have a VOIP service I use in Singapore and need to be able to connect to it while in the US so that I can call there cheaply. Right now I fall back to Google Voice, but that doesn't give the proper caller ID, etc.
Then, when I travel I put in a local SIM, so Wifi calling doesn't work anymore. So, I need to connect to a VOIP service in the US in order to call home cheaply.
Wifi calling and SIP calling are not mutually exclusive, but work well in tandem. Right now I still travel with my MT4G in order to do this, but it's on its last legs and needs to be retired quickly!
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Very interesting. Didn't realize that was available in other Android builds. Sounds like it would be good to have if you were international.
Curious, though, aren't international data rates really high?
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Curious, though, aren't international data rates really high?
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Not when using a local SIM. In Singapore 500Mb is about $12 and a month to use it in. That's actually plenty for me when I'm out as I have it on Wifi when in my hotel.
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Very interesting. Didn't realize that was available in other Android builds. Sounds like it would be good to have if you were international.
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SIP native calling included into stock ROM of SGS2 i9100 (international version)
Native SIP client
I am also looking for NAtive SIP Client but I can't find anyway to include it... I tried all the MODs available and only CM7 gave me the ability to use Native SIP Client...
I am back to Stock ROM but still trying to find a way to include Internet Calling Menu under Call Settings...
Earlier this week I noticed that the Paradox ROM mentioned that they re-enabled the SIP Settings in their ROM. I haven't tried it yet as it was mentioned that they would be releasing an update by this weekend, so I will probably download and try that ROM out this weekend. I hope that SIP is working properly as it is a major pain for me without it. I keep my old Vibrant around just for SIP.
How to make 3g video calls like regular 2g calls. other than voip softwares (which uses internet to make calls) is there any app or other dialers which enables the video calling option directly from regular dialer screen. I use htc original firmware not yet rooted.
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How to make 3g video calls like regular 2g calls. other than voip softwares (which uses internet to make calls) is there any app or other dialers which enables the video calling option directly from regular dialer screen. I use htc original firmware not yet rooted.
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lol if you need an app then it would be through Voip as long as my knowledge is involved...maybe someone else knows if it's possible...also did you try googling? lol
Can u suggest one to make 3g calls that service provider has given
you realize there is no front camera so the video call wouldnt work very well lol. Ya you need to use something like skype. it wasn't built into any of the software because of the desire/inspire not having a face camera, the demand isnt there.
but, where as viber has an option to make 2g calls over network if user doesnt have viber installed in his handset viber will ask us can we make calls using regular dialer mode. is there any thing of that sort for 3g.