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I have TornadoPowerControl installed and working on my Excalibur and would like to know what is the fastest settings I can clock the excalibur without damaging it..?? right now i just have it on AUTO.. Fastest is 204MHZ
Hi, I am trying to install this program as well, but having a little difficulty finding the download for Compact Framework Version 2.0 SP1...I would greatly appreciate if you could help me out.....regarding the highest stable clock speed, I have been testing it at 252 and 264 and personally feel that 252 is pretty stable....thanks for your time.
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Here's the link i used to DL the .NET Cf.. so 252mhz is stable..? how long u been clocking at that speed for??
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6b-356b-4a2c-857c-e62f50ae9a55&displaylang=en
apologize for the late reply, thank you for the link....works great, yes my S620 has been overclocked at 252 close to a month now, so far so good.....I did try it a 264 for a while but didn't really notice that much difference and plus I didn't want to take a chance on draining the battery any faster...at 252 my battery still last the whole day on a full charge with a few hours on the phone, couple of hours on wifi, and a couple of hours of watching a movie (via TCPMP)...I have it overclocked all the time at 252 even when it comes out of stanby/and after a soft reset....hope this helps....
In MY business environment, htc s620 with bluetooth enabled and push e-mail enabled, with 15-25 phone call a day, some internet browsing, without tornado power control the battery ends before dinner, and sometime also dinners are part of the business !
My Hermes? always a USB-MINI USB adapter is in my pocket! Wizard? something better! Nokia 6310i? 2-3 days!
Lesson Learned: downclocking is more important in .BIZ than overclocking!
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kwues said:
Hi, I am trying to install this program as well, but having a little difficulty finding the download for Compact Framework Version 2.0 SP1...I would greatly appreciate if you could help me out.....regarding the highest stable clock speed, I have been testing it at 252 and 264 and personally feel that 252 is pretty stable....thanks for your time.
Regards,
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log int xda ftp and you will find just the cab file that you need, instead of the 22 mb download from MS. i am attaching total commander for smartphone it has ftp and reg editer, if you type this into any desktop browers or pocket explorer it will login.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/ xda:xda meaning usernameassword for any other ftp sites. hope that helps.
actually both files will be in ftp excalibur folder. side note you probalby know this, but all files that need or require desktop install, just go to c:\program files\microsoft activesync and you will find the cab file, nice to store for later use. sometimes they will be seperate folder instaed activesynce, well hope some part of this was of any use
Ok i set OmapClock to 252mhz, and i set TornadoTotalControl to 228mhz.. am i doing it right?? i just overlooked my settings and now i think i have it set up wrong.. when i set OmapClock to 252mhz and set the clock its fine but when i reopen OmapClock again it reset back to 132mhz.. is it because when it hibernates the clock resets its speed?? Isn't TornadoTotalControl suppose to keep it overclocked?? hmm.. opinions please.. thanks..
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Hi,
Everytime i overclock my S620 to 252MHz my phone crashes it freezes up and i cannot do anything accept pull the battery. Am i doing something wrong?? Please HELP!!
Thanks
datacrime said:
Hi,
Everytime i overclock my S620 to 252MHz my phone crashes it freezes up and i cannot do anything accept pull the battery. Am i doing something wrong?? Please HELP!!
Thanks
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Everytime I am close to 11.000 RPM my fiat car engine stops running. Am I doing something wrong?
YES! found: I forgot to connect the brain before starting the engine
Simply you have understoood why your S620 processor is a 200 Mhz processor, because is GUARANTEED working at 200 Mhz! Any overclock isn't, read the DISCLAIMER in Tornado Power Control before testing it at 300 Mhz!
sergiopi said:
Everytime I am close to 11.000 RPM my fiat car engine stops running. Am I doing something wrong?
YES! found: I forgot to connect the brain before starting the engine
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LOL. Very nice (and polite) response!
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other people with the same phone have reported that it is stable at 252 so why would'nt mine? What is a stable speed to overclock it to?
Thanks
Does this work better than omap? because I can't seem to get omap working on my Dash.
datacrime said:
other people with the same phone have reported that it is stable at 252 so why would'nt mine? What is a stable speed to overclock it to?
Thanks
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Because you CAN'T pair the words "stable" and "overclock", otherwise, if it was stable at 220 Mhz (or 230 or 250 whatever) they will sell it as OMAP 220 Mhz, instead of OMAP 200 Mhz!
OVERCLOCK means "OVER THE STABLE CLOCK CERTIFIED FROM COMPANY"
How is your wife in the bed? I don't know, some like her, some other don't...
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Because you CAN'T pair the words "stable" and "overclock", otherwise, if it was stable at 220 Mhz (or 230 or 250 whatever) they will sell it as OMAP 220 Mhz, instead of OMAP 200 Mhz!
OVERCLOCK means "OVER THE STABLE CLOCK CERTIFIED FROM COMPANY"
How is your wife in the bed? I don't know, some like her, some other don't...
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That is incorrect. It has nothing to do with stability. It has everything to do with optimal battery life. HTC made their phone with a 200 MHz chip because it provides optimal battery life. Once you overclock it, even 10%, you significantly reduce your battery life due to the faster CPU speed.
An OMAP CPU rated at 200MHz doesn't mean that it won't run stable at 240MHz or higher. The last two phones I've had I ran overclocked 240MHz for months without issue.
Whether or not your phone will run stable at 240MHz is a crapshoot, however... Basically, you can step up the overclocking until the point where the phone locks up and reboots itself. One or two steps below that is the "safe" overclocking speed.
http://focus.ti.com/graphics/wtbu/blockdiagrams/l4_omap850.gif
This is the link to the processor scheme... the data sheet clearly state for the ARM926EJ subsystem MAXIMUM frequency as 200 Mhz
Isn't only a power problem, is also a heat problem and in some conditions it could be critical. Also the other subsystems couldn't accept data at that frequency, depending from tolerance related to building technology and may be the ARM processor works but other components (EDGE, Bluetooth, WIFI, ... ) could overheat.
That's why the overclocker builders always say: USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...lateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
link to TI Specs
Summarizing:
Insn't common to fry a processor just for a little (20%) overclock and normal conditions, but if you overclock more than 20% and use it at full power for a couple of ours you love to live on the edge man!
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OMAP850 Features:
Low-Power, High-Performance CMOS Technology
Low-voltage 130 nm technology
1.1 - 1.5V cores, 1.8 - 2.75V IO
Extremely low power consumption: less than 10 µA in standby mode
Split power supplies for application processing, digital baseband and real-time clock enable precise control over power consumption
Optimized clocking and power management: Only two clocks required at 13 MHz and 32 kHz
ARM926TEJ Core Subsystem
ARM926EJ-S V5 architecture up to 200 MHz (maximum frequency)
16 kB I-cache; 8 kB D-cache
Java acceleration in hardware
Multimedia instruction set architecture (ISA) extension
EDGE Digital Baseband Subsystem
384 K-bytes internal SRAM
E-OTD and TTY support
Quad vocoder with EFR, FR, HR, AMR
GSM ultra-low power device (ULPD)
SIM interface
ummmm....
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Because you CAN'T pair the words "stable" and "overclock", otherwise, if it was stable at 220 Mhz (or 230 or 250 whatever) they will sell it as OMAP 220 Mhz, instead of OMAP 200 Mhz!
OVERCLOCK means "OVER THE STABLE CLOCK CERTIFIED FROM COMPANY"
How is your wife in the bed? I don't know, some like her, some other don't...
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actually, you can pair the words. I am coming from a PC Gamer standpoint. Look at 3 things
1.) how long will it most likely last if I OC it
2.) Do I plan to have this device for that long? (most cases "no")
3.) can it handle my workload (gaming) without crashing or freezing. (if yes then stable, besides those companies that certify things certify them under a very strict bar.)
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actually, you can pair the words. I am coming from a PC Gamer standpoint. Look at 3 things
1.) how long will it most likely last if I OC it
2.) Do I plan to have this device for that long? (most cases "no")
3.) can it handle my workload (gaming) without crashing or freezing. (if yes then stable, besides those companies that certify things certify them under a very strict bar.)
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Another way of looking @ it is that most CPU's come in underclocked the reason why so we buy a better model, even more recently we find CPU's just with cores disabled so as they fit into the lower price bracket, so a stable clock is more than capable on many CPU's obviously depending on other factors RAM speed, BIOS blah blah blah "sorry just far too many factors"
Lets just now go back to these tiny PC's "PPC's" it's the same principle Stock frequencys lower than HTC\M$ stated the device runs @.
If my [email protected] are too warm then i OC'd too much, if the screen whites i OC'd too much, the device freezes i OC'd too much.
Sod it 240MHz and stable what more do i want? A substancial speed boost without an excessive heat load.
B.T.W i'm just rambling
yay...
...yay, So I assume you agree with me? lol
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...yay, So I assume you agree with me? lol
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Yep i just had a long winded way of going about it
Basically ..........ummm.... FLAME ON!..
HI, i've using omapclock to overclock my t-mobile mda compact 3, but i found the original clock only 183 MHz not 201 MHz. Does my phone was downgrade by t-mobile ? But i can easy to overclock to 252 MHz and run quite stable.
Regarding the t-mobile compact 3 NO Wifi, does anyone knew was disable the feature or the phone has not fitted this parts. It was because i've 7 days to trial this phone, if no Wifi i might be changed a verio 2. thanks you !
omapclock reports the wrong speed for WM5 PDAs. It assumes a multiplier of 12 when it's actually 13. The gives you a clock speed of around 198.
All is explained in the (very) long BatteryStatus thread in the Prophet Forum.
TheBrit said:
omapclock reports the wrong speed for WM5 PDAs. It assumes a multiplier of 12 when it's actually 13. The gives you a clock speed of around 198.
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So, do you know if it sets the right speed or should we apply the same coef (12/13) ?
KR, Imer
MDA Compact 3/artemis
Hi,
Just wanted to know, where can i download omap clock for my mda compact 3
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm
there ya go, read the hot to/manual efore doing any tinkering
My mate just got the orbit and i really love the look and feel of it! Was planning all along to get the M700 too!
Can anyone tell me how the two compare - i know the tech differences but how about looks, feel, speed etc etc..
Thanks!
chickyd said:
My mate just got the orbit and i really love the look and feel of it! Was planning all along to get the M700 too!
Can anyone tell me how the two compare - i know the tech differences but how about looks, feel, speed etc etc..
Thanks!
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you should go into O2 & Orange shops and compare.
The M700 has a 400 Mhz cpu, but the OMAP in the Orbit is more efficient. Overclocked to around 260Mhz (at your own risk) it runs at about the same visible speed as the samsung.
The x and y dimensions of the M700 are only a smidgen larger, but it is 2mm thicker and 15% heavier then the O2 orbit. The battery also does not last as long.
If you want a smaller device and/or GPS you need the orbit. If 3G is critical to you, you need the M700.
The final thing to note is that Orange lock their PDAs, O2 do not.
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Thanks for that!
I'm now thinking about the orbit. If only i could go and check out the m700 but no shops are stocking them yet - no word on release date either!
Currently have wizard and find the omap processor on it rather sluggish when not overclocked so think i'lll need to do this to the orbit.
Can you tell me how to set the clock constantly overclocked? (at my own risk aside) is this safe? prob go for aroound 240 to be safe - this is what i do to my wizard and it makes alot of difference!
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Thanks for that!
I'm now thinking about the orbit. If only i could go and check out the m700 but no shops are stocking them yet - no word on release date either!
Currently have wizard and find the omap processor on it rather sluggish when not overclocked so think i'lll need to do this to the orbit.
Can you tell me how to set the clock constantly overclocked? (at my own risk aside) is this safe? prob go for aroound 240 to be safe - this is what i do to my wizard and it makes alot of difference!
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I had a wizard before and I think the orbit is slightly faster. It might be because WM5 on the orbit is a couple of service packs more advanced then the wizard, or that the implementation of the omap has improved abit. But its basically the same cpu, and if you found it sluggish before, you are likely to again.
I'd try in the shop before you buy, as its all personal preference.
There are many utils to overclock, I use omapclock. After a reboot you need to run it again. There is also omapclockplus which attempts to keep the overclocker running on reboot.
The best utility is the commercial one called xcpuscaler:
http://www.immiersoft.com/
Not only does this give you the most control, but you can set autoscaling for cpu load. e.g. if the cpu is less then 50% full you can set normal-or under clock, which saves battery.
there is an overclocking thread in this forum, have a read.
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stupid me, forgot to mention the overclocker I actually use now (batterystatus):
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm#Download
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colonel said:
stupid me, forgot to mention the overclocker I actually use now (batterystatus):
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm#Download
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Thanks for that!
Will give it a bash when it arrives tomorrow!!
Also got the 2gb sd card on order.. going to format it with FAT32 and keep my fingers crossed i don't end up having to post in that 'other' thread!
Having looked at that link i'll prob just go with omap overclock - don't think i need the other functions of the software!
Any ideas to mess with the HTC Touches software to overclock it to 299mHz instead of 201mHz
Dotex said:
Any ideas to mess with the HTC Touches software to overclock it to 299mHz instead of 201mHz
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it uses an omap850 processor so you could use omapclock to overclock (read the readme's before using!!).
However, 299 MHz isn't regarded stable on a omap850, I wouldn't recommend overclocking over 260 MHz.
Any higher step should be carefully tested.
But there are people who have higher clockspeeds without any problems, and others who have problems with 260 MHz, its really up to the processor, just like with PC processors, not every processor can be clocked to the same speed.
Add to the above, 247 Mhz seems safe for most OMAP 850 I've played with and I've heard nothing bad from other people neither. 247 Mhz should be just enough for 100%+ playback with qvga videos in tcpmp.
but it's bound to give a batt time hit
Im new to the ppc world and i was wondering, where can i find this overclocking program? its just amazing how much you can do with these devices!!
http://www.google.dk/search?source=ig&hl=da&q=omapclock&btnG=Google-søgning&meta=lr=lang_da|lang_en
Which application name use for Touchflo in order to overclock?
The APLAUNCHER.exe?
APLAUNCHER
most likely mean application launcher
so unless that application launcher launch
the application called OmapClock.exe
prob not
it should all be made clear in many of the hits the google link i posted
I have been using Battery Status Ext 1.04 to overclock my Touch.
I overclocked it to 247 and with a speed burst to 260 and it rests at 143. Works great and I haven't ran into any issues. Battery obviously gets eaten a little faster but I keep the screen brightness low...
Hi guys... Im a newbies to the ppc world too... recently ive brought a htc touch. the os wm6 pro but was in chinese version, do anyone has the english version ROM.. Thanks in advance...
yes go look in the elf section of the forum
cid unlock the flash the english rom from there
I found this app over at ppcgeeks created by a guy named KidGixxer that is able to safely overclock our Touch's up to 624Mhz. I have mine overclocked to 624 right now and it is just stupid fast.
HTC Performance
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are you able to actice sync your phone after overclocking it? I had the batter clocker and everytime I overclocked my phone, my active sync wound't connect. Are you any problems with you active sync?
Does anyone know if this app even does anything? I'm running it also on my Vogue and although it seems snappier if it really does anything I think that people have said that it's not upping your processor speed. And no, no problems syncing or anything.
Question, Do you know how much heat the proc is putting out at 624? because thats a pretty decent sized overclock... Hate to see it fry out after a while on ya...
No heat, nada. It may not be doing anything as per other posts. Seems to do something for me but it may be the power of whishful thinking : ) .
trehouse said:
No heat, nada. It may not be doing anything as per other posts. Seems to do something for me but it may be the power of whishful thinking : ) .
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Ran the benchmark in TCPMP and it didn't score any better than it did with out this program. I don't have SPB Benchmark.
I installed on my Touch and see no difference whatsoever
this tool isn't intended to overclock qualcomm chips found in sprint touch. its for intel xscales.
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this tool isn't intended to overclock qualcomm chips found in sprint touch. its for intel xscales.
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yes such is true, that is for the intel PXA series processors not the MSM7500 chipset and samsung processor used in the touch
XmentalX said:
yes such is true, that is for the intel PXA series processors not the MSM7500 chipset and samsung processor used in the touch
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So where do we get one for the Sprint Touch?
From what I know, the processor in the HTC Vogue (thats all CDMA version Touches, like the one Sprint sells. If your Touch has no SIM card, its a Vogue, not an Elf.) is a Qualcomm 7500, which is in fact a dual-core processor... At least, I think I read that somewhere. Anyways, as such, there is no application that can overclock that processor. Sorry fellas. The GSM version has a TI OMAP 200mhz processor, which can ironically be OC'd to 624, faster then the CDMA's Qualcomm processor. But they still don't get the double RAM!
Qualcomm isnt a dual core cpu!
You mess words with future's!
Intel means with dual core ... two cpus like a multi cpu system. Os can use both cores.
Qualcomm and TI OMAP have only one cpu for OS! Qualcomm use a ARM11 and OMAP a ARM9. The secound Cpu is for Radio only and a ARM7 Cpu. It means ... two Cpus are in one Chip Case but it isnt a Dual Core Cpu like Intel or AMD PC Cpu. Both Cpus are only connected with a little rs232 interface (OMAP use this way) to communicat.
Sorry for my very bad english!
Wrong, the Qualcomm MSM7500 in the sprint touch has two cores. One core is a 400MGhz ARM11 for main OS work, and a 133MGhz ARM9 for all radio related operations.
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From what I know, the processor in the HTC Vogue (thats all CDMA version Touches, like the one Sprint sells. If your Touch has no SIM card, its a Vogue, not an Elf.) is a Qualcomm 7500, which is in fact a dual-core processor... At least, I think I read that somewhere. Anyways, as such, there is no application that can overclock that processor. Sorry fellas. The GSM version has a TI OMAP 200mhz processor, which can ironically be OC'd to 624, faster then the CDMA's Qualcomm processor. But they still don't get the double RAM!
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This is correct, it is impossible to push the MSM7500 pask 400Mhz, well really 384MHz
correct. I tried it anyway on the VOGUE and didn't notice a difference. deleted.
OrionSX said:
From what I know, the processor in the HTC Vogue (thats all CDMA version Touches, like the one Sprint sells. If your Touch has no SIM card, its a Vogue, not an Elf.) is a Qualcomm 7500, which is in fact a dual-core processor... At least, I think I read that somewhere. Anyways, as such, there is no application that can overclock that processor. Sorry fellas. The GSM version has a TI OMAP 200mhz processor, which can ironically be OC'd to 624, faster then the CDMA's Qualcomm processor. But they still don't get the double RAM!
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If you push the OMAP past 300Mhz, it starts to get really unruly. I don't think anyone has succesfully overclocked it to 624. 624mhz is the standard accepted overclock for the xscale chips. It doesn't make much sense to use that number in reference to the omap.
overclock mogul 6800
does the HTC Performance work on the Mogul 6800 as well . Seems to be that the Mogul doesnt use xscale processor. Cant use hack master,etc.
Also Mogul has 400 mhz CPU processor, whats seems the best overclock speed without distroying the processor
studio41 said:
does the HTC Performance work on the Mogul 6800 as well . Seems to be that the Mogul doesnt use xscale processor. Cant use hack master,etc.
Also Mogul has 400 mhz CPU processor, whats seems the best overclock speed without distroying the processor
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there is currently no way to overclock the qualcomm msm 7xxx chipsets (mogul and touch)