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Problem: Silent phone calls

I have a SPV m2000 with the latest rom from orange, the first problem i had was when you go to reply to a text you sometimes could only send 70 char. before you had a 2nd text, but that was sorted by this site by turning the use assci code off, the onlt other problem is this -
Sometimes when i go to make a phone call, i dont hear a dialing tone, but after a few seconds it starts counting up like in connected to the call. The person im ringing says that they got the call and they could hear me but i didn't reply. This has happened many times now, it seems to be after its been a long time since i restarted the phone, e.g in the morning etc
I was just wondering if anyone else had ths problem?

Silent Calls
I had this problem from day 1 with my M2000, and I had to soft reset to clear it. Recently updated Radio to 1.13 and Bluetooth to 3900 and problem hasn't re-occured. Of course this may be a coincidence... :roll:

Turn on BT and leave it on, even if you don't use it. This worked for me.

Sometimes when i go to make a phone call, i dont hear a dialing tone, but after a few seconds it starts counting up like in connected to the call. The person im ringing says that they got the call and they could hear me but i didn't reply.
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There is a huge thread on this somewhere with a poll (survey) in it. Last time I checked around 76% of owners of this handset have the 'no sound in call problem' to some degree.
My old BA did it 2-3 times a day. My new one with 1.13 radio ROM does it less often, but the problem still remains.
If you are really unhappy, and need a reliable phone you obviously wont want the BlueAngel again! Take it back to where you bought it. They will try to deny it is a known problem and at best give you a new Blue Angel. My advice is to find the thread on here, print all 10 pages of it and take it to where you bought the phone. They won't be able to deny it with the evidence right in front of them. Make sure you show it where the public can see/hear so they have to try and talk their way out of it in fornt of an audience
I did this to prove that the whistling screen was a known common problem, not something caused through my neglect and so I was entitled to a new handset under my warranty, not just a new screen (Everyone said the problem came back despite a new screen as the problem is with the circuit board)
As I remember, about 1 in 6 Blue Angel users will end up with a whistling screen after owning the device for a month so you probably have that to look forward to aswell.
My 1.40 iMate ROM may have helped too.

Read the wiki and upgrade to wm5. Problem has not happened for me in months.

The Artemis niggles thread, can anyone answer the following...

I love my orbit but there are certain things I want to find out if they can be tweaked/changed.
1, can you modify the registry to use a bluetooth headset for audio on media files being played back through tcpmp ?
2, is there a way to return the phone automatically to the today screen after finishing a phone call ? I hate having to manually shut the screen after a call all the time
3, is there a way to improve the camera quality, its pretty poor ?
4, I use resco file explorer and on the today screen the icon for the battery has started to dissapear at random times, any ideas ?
5,when you finish a call you have the number on the screen, is there anyway to set the scroll key to go through the call history on that screen as opposed to having to go into the call history menu ?
Already reading on the loudspeaker distortion and loudspeaker while using tom tom have been helpful.
thanks. anyone feel free to add any niggles of your own you may have.

the answer to all these is:
buy something else.

wow what a constructive post...

constructive and realistic. Thanks.

1. I thought that was the whole point of A2DP, I don't use this so no real idea. Search "btaudio" and start from there.
2. Mine does this after a few minutes anyway. Otherwise just press the red call end button again. The fastest time you can force it in the settings is 1 hour.
3. It is possible the software could get updated in the future which may make some difference, but to be honest the camera is a bit of an extra thought anyway, phones never beat real digital cameras. don't just snap on default settings though, but good lighting is essential for a half decent shot.
4. Personally I reduce the amount of today plug-ins as much as possible, I don't like them or trust them. If it's the battery monitor itself that is important to you, check out this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751&highlight=battery+status and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263951&highlight=battery+monitor
5. No
6. Don't buy another device

thanks for that, at least some people have sense, I know BTaudio lets you playback the TT voice through a standard headset, wondered if it would do the same for media as opposed to buying a a2dp headset. thanks for the response anyway

So few artemis users on this forum says something, hermes.
Just get on with the rom HTC please.

eh ?

Hi Amino, I always seem to make dumb posts.
What I Meant was, if you consider this site as a whole, then the artemis appears to be an unpopular device. People have love hate things with it. All the active artemis threads are moans. I love mine but it also really pisses me off when it lets me down, which I personally put down to the shoddy rom and why I am waiting for wm6 before I attempt to change the shipped rom. Whereas the Hermes is already running wm6 and got gps and 400mz and a very busy forum.
Yes I am right, I always make dumb posts.

uniqueboy said:
Whereas the Hermes is already running wm6 and got gps and 400mz and a very busy forum.
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But the Hermes doesn't have GPS.
The only reason that I put up with the Storage Card corruption problem on the Artemis is that it's about the only device with built in GPS that's worth considering.

You are right Philip, GPS is not working yet on hermes but, having read some of the threads they are only short of an arial. Maybe I need one of those eten things.

Trust me Uniqueboy if u want GPS that works DO NOT buy an Eten!!!
They take ages to get a gps lock even when driving with them in a cradle on a nice day, the connection also drops out quite randomly and often takes a good few minutes to reconnect. As you can imagine this is particuarly annoying when using TomTom in an unfamiliar area!!

Phone won't wake up from standby?

Hi All
Not sure if this is potentially a general problem or specific to my build of WM6..
I'm running Dutty's v2 of WM6 - all seems stable on the whole....
Except that if the battery power is at, or below 50% remaining.. when the phone shuts itself into standby & is left for an hour.... No matter what i press.. power button, tapping the screen etc... the phone refuses to wake up....! - (When the battery IS fuller... it DOES spring to life when you tap the power button on the side.)
The green signal light DOES remain flashing all the time though...
Even calling the phone doesn't kick it up the ass.... I just hear the ringing in the earpiece of my land line.. & the tytn remains silent!!
The only way to sort it out is to remove the battery & reboot - pretty crap!?
So is this a BUG? - & if so, something specific to Dutty's build on WM6, OR is this something more generic that other people with different OS's like 'Black' 2.5 or 3.01 are ALSO experiencing???
Your kind answers welcome.
Cheers,
Al

WOW, do a search. This is almost as bad as asking if WM6 is available for Hermes.

Thanks for your POINTLESS ANSWER!
I did a search, & all that is found is page after page of dross, with people saying "it might be this, it might be that... is it the radio version..? is it your storage card, is it too many apps in the background!? BLA BLA BLA
To save time... for all you no-patience types....
WM6 Dutty v2
My radio version: 1.40
storage card 2GB Sandisc... 250MB left, with Tom Tom 6 & European maps... only activated when manually run.
Any background programs like weatherpanel? - NONE
DO you know the Answer or not - YES or NO!?
Don't waste my life with cocky responces. - If there is a definitive SOLUTION, state it, instead of your pompous snobbery!
"Your kind answers welcome." - What's the point of even being polite to you people?

hypersonic said:
Thanks for your POINTLESS ANSWER!
I did a search, & all that is found is page after page of dross, with people saying "it might be this, it might be that... is it the radio version..? is it your storage card, is it too many apps in the background!? BLA BLA BLA
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Well if you found another thread......
hypersonic said:
Don't waste my life with cocky responces. - If there is a definitive SOLUTION, state it, instead of your pompous snobbery!
"Your kind answers welcome." - What's the point of even being polite to you people?
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Don't waste my time with a new thread to read.....MAYBE post your question in the ORIGINAL thread

wpbear - Reading the thread that i found does not offer up a definative solution.....
Is there one that you know of? - if so then just say it please.
I'm not some teenage snot noob, I'm a 37 year old professional, running a company... I have better & more important things to do with my life than trawl through pages & pages of threads.
Either answer my question with an answer that SOLVES it - or remain silent.
Thankyou

There are other threads on this matter, but no solution has been found yet.
All the WM6 roms I've tried have had this problem.
For me it happens 2/3 times a day if I set IMAP mail to check periodically.

I had this problem with every WM6 rom too. I solved it by disabling the auto download/sync with my IMAP email accounts. I set it to 'manual' to check for email, which is a pain, but my 8525 wakes up every time now. I used to have this problem several times per day regardless if I was going through different singal networks (as people said it was that problem)...also people said it was my memory card, it was not as it happened regardless if that was installed or not.
Once I stopped autodownloading and syncing of my IMAP email, all was fine. i hope this works for you.

This seems like a fairly major bug!
Activesync works fine. Shame you can't sync two exchange accounts over the air! It would be interesting to set up an IMAP server and look at the logs to see where it is getting stuck.
I found also that the mSD card made no difference.

Hmmm
Interesting, i DO have my Pop3 account to auto send/recieve every 10 mins.. I've just disabled it... & shall see what it does...
So this is looking like a WM6 generic bug.... I wonder if Black's 3.01 which is based upon a slightly newer core build from M$ has addressed this.... But i'll wait a while from updating my rom... as it seems pretty stable in all other areas.
Al
P.S . Thanks for the polite & informative replies!!!

It has the same problem and so does the latest LVSW.
It's a bit of a bummer actually! Not sure what to do about it!

Very common problem - no answer
This is the same problem that MANY of us have. I've read its possibly due to the Sandisk microcards (a Kingston is supposably more reliable,) but most people are reporting its due to email checking while the device is in Standby. It has NOT been corrected with the Latest ROMs or OS's. Good luck - if you find an answer let us all know!

hypersonic said:
wpbear - Reading the thread that i found does not offer up a definative solution.....
Is there one that you know of? - if so then just say it please.
I'm not some teenage snot noob, I'm a 37 year old professional, running a company... I have better & more important things to do with my life than trawl through pages & pages of threads.
Either answer my question with an answer that SOLVES it - or remain silent.
Thankyou
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Damn, where did I put that silver platter....

I think that mSD cards can cause the problem, but I've had it happen many times without a card in the slot.
My gut feeling is that something goes wrong while checking the IMAP mail. Remember that the machine is woken by a notification and is in a state where it is on, but the screen and sound are off. I have noted that activesync is much quicker at checking than IMAP. Perhaps it takes too long sometimes and thus becomes stuck.

By any chance are you locking the phone with 'Device Lock'?
My phone (on any version of WM) would lock up at least once per day.
I found that if I stopped locking the phone using device lock and just switched the phone into standby with the power button, it hasn't locked up since.

mitchg said:
This is the same problem that MANY of us have. I've read its possibly due to the Sandisk microcards (a Kingston is supposably more reliable,) but most people are reporting its due to email checking while the device is in Standby. It has NOT been corrected with the Latest ROMs or OS's. Good luck - if you find an answer let us all know!
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On my phone I have 100% connected this issue to leaving the WIFI on and letting the phone time out into standbye. While I do have the Taiwan 2GB Sandisc mSD card - the problem happens regardless of if the card is in the phone or not. The problem only ever occurs on my phone if I have the WIFI on and let it timeout. If the WIFI is disabled, it NEVER has this issue and if I manually put the phone into standbye (tapping off button) it almost never has this issue. With WIFI left on, I can expect my phone to freeze on average once or twice a day!
Now there may be many issues that cause this with differnt phones but this is what happens on my phone.

chymmylt said:
On my phone I have 100% connected this issue to leaving the WIFI on and letting the phone time out into standbye. While I do have the Taiwan 2GB Sandisc mSD card - the problem happens regardless of if the card is in the phone or not. The problem only ever occurs on my phone if I have the WIFI on and let it timeout. If the WIFI is disabled, it NEVER has this issue and if I manually put the phone into standbye (tapping off button) it almost never has this issue. With WIFI left on, I can expect my phone to freeze on average once or twice a day!
Now there may be many issues that cause this with differnt phones but this is what happens on my phone.
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I don't have the problem anymore, but when I did have it using different ROMs it was always when it timed out with WIFI on. Having read all the threads on the subject I to think there are several things which are causing it for different users.

mattlehrer said:
By any chance are you locking the phone with 'Device Lock'?
My phone (on any version of WM) would lock up at least once per day.
I found that if I stopped locking the phone using device lock and just switched the phone into standby with the power button, it hasn't locked up since.
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I saw the same problem on my old Prophet. The solution for that phone and it's AKU2.0 ROM was to set backlight and standby timeouts to the same value.

I've had this with:
WiFi off;
Email off;
Device lock off;
Power at 90%+.
And all of the above at the same time, hehe.
With computers, it can be something that appears completely unrelated, that causes the problem.
As an example, I once built a new machine (I've been a custom system builder for more years than I care to remember), that kept coming up with hard drive errors, massive hard drive failures, loss of partitions, you name it. Even with known good hard drives.
I changed the IDE controller. I changed the motherboard. I changed the memory. I changed the CD drive. I changed the powersupply. With all known good components.
Same errors.
I gave up, and went to bed to sleep on it (usually a very good idea when a problem is wearing you down).
In the morning, I realised that the only thing that I hadn't changed at least once, was the graphics card.
Yep, it was the graphics card that was persistently producing hard drive errors, hehe.
My guess is there's some sort of driver incompatibility (some companies have a very bad track record regarding their competence at supplying decent, compatible drivers), or clash with a couple of otherwise unrelated apps. Something like that.
My gut feeling hollers ATi driver (I think I have had more headaches caused by ATi drivers the last approx 20 years, than everything else put together).
Could well be wrong, but might give someone an area to start looking.
"Don't waste my time with a new thread to read.....MAYBE post your question in the ORIGINAL thread"
Thread title was clear enough.
Exercise discretion upon what you click.
It isn't compulsory.
You wasted far more of your own time by answering.

abubasim said:
I saw the same problem on my old Prophet. The solution for that phone and it's AKU2.0 ROM was to set backlight and standby timeouts to the same value.
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My Hermes has the same problem and only when the screen/buttons are locked. I will try to set the timeouts as you suggested and see what happens. It was not a problem in Black 2.0.

Hi
Regarding Wifi... I usuall have it off, unless i'm using it.... so it can't be that.
I disabled my mail account auto connection last night... & left the phone....
Now it WAS plugged into the charger, but upon clicking on the phone power button this morning, it DID come out of Standby!!!
However... as i noticed already, when the battery is full or over 50% it did seem to want to come out of standby.... only when the battery starts to run low, did it refuse to wake up...
I'll let the power run down today.. & let standby activate..... now that the email auto connect is disabled, if it DOES still fail when the battery is getting low... then we know it is something to do with the power...
If it DOES come on, with low power, then it will point towards the email problem...
"set backlight and standby timeouts to the same value." = Well this is an interesting little quirk..... I'll give it a try too. - Cheers
I'll let you know.
Al

It takes 2-5 seconds before the phone shows incoming calls

Hi all,
Does anyone know a solution to the following issue that plagues a lot of windows mobile phones.
I did the following test
Nokia calls my Trinity > it takes anywhere from 2-5 seconds before the call appears on my screen, it takes another second before it starts vibrating, and another 1-3 seconds before the ringtone starts.
Worst case scenario it can take upto 9 seconds before you even know the phone is ringing! For the caller this means the second call beep has already started.
When i call back to the nokia, it starts ringing as soon as the connection is established
Anyone know which rom(s), patches, tips and tricks lead to a lower delay?

tetsuo55 said:
Hi all,
Does anyone know a solution to the following issue that plagues a lot of windows mobile phones.
I did the following test
Nokia calls my Trinity > it takes anywhere from 2-5 seconds before the call appears on my screen, it takes another second before it starts vibrating, and another 1-3 seconds before the ringtone starts.
Worst case scenario it can take upto 9 seconds before you even know the phone is ringing! For the caller this means the second call beep has already started.
When i call back to the nokia, it starts ringing as soon as the connection is established
Anyone know which rom(s), patches, tips and tricks lead to a lower delay?
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Do you use the Voice Command?

No i do not

Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109
Bye

i follow the instrustion but my trinity don't have ..\htc\audiogain. So does it work in trinity too?

i don't think that fix will work on wm6(.1)

Did you try or not?.
If it doesn't work, use tweaks2k2, search for it.
Bye

atropo said:
Did you try or not?.
If it doesn't work, use tweaks2k2, search for it.
Bye
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I'm wondering if you, Atropo, did try it and if it works with the trinity...?(and in the affirmative case, which cab did you use ?)
and if not, how tweaks2k2 can help...?
thanks...

Because tweaks2k2 has a tweak to correct ring delay.
But wm device isn't a phone and it doesn't work like a phone about ring.
Bye.

tweaks2k2 can and does reduce the ringtone delay, but to reduce it even more we actually do need a wm6 version of those patches, together we might be able to get instant ring

Easy way to shorten delay.
I noticed this on my old c500 phone, just use an uncompressed wav file 22 khz mono instead of wma or mp3. it takes up time to process these file formats. I'm not really bothered, if someone can't wait a few seconds for you to pick up then it's not important. you can also lengthen the ring time untill it goes to voicemail.

Each minute alert during a call

Good day.
I tried to look up for this in google and search here, and got everything else except answer for my inquiry.
I wanted my 8525 to beep or do something each time I went one minute during a call or a certain time was reached. Is there any way to do that by changing a setting, or would I need a certain software for that?
Thanks,

Anyone?
I really need to be in track of my minutes made in a call, and I would really like to have my 8525 alert me every time I reach a minute or a certain second is reached.

Try Spb Phone Suite !
Try Spb Phone Suite !

I cannot seem to find any option for that on the software =S.

do some searching noobs
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ult&cd=1&q=windows+mobile+minute+beep&spell=1
PEACE!