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I have seen a lot of posts about cooked rom etc. Just curious what am I gaining by upgrading to WM6? I see there are still bugs to be worked out and community support is definitley the way to do it.
I am a newbie, and I know the upgrade isn't ready for me but I am tempted to test and help the community out but not sure what additonal features are added in WM6 that I should look for and test?
Also which ROM seems to be a all in one upgrade for the Cingular 8525?
Just the faster navi and app run speed will make u wanna upgrade. btw..seems to be more stable than WM5.
PostDeals said:
I have seen a lot of posts about cooked rom etc. Just curious what am I gaining by upgrading to WM6? I see there are still bugs to be worked out and community support is definitley the way to do it.
I am a newbie, and I know the upgrade isn't ready for me but I am tempted to test and help the community out but not sure what additonal features are added in WM6 that I should look for and test?
Also which ROM seems to be a all in one upgrade for the Cingular 8525?
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Here's a MS press release that you can check out:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/feb07/02-11WM6SoftwarePR.mspx
As far as which WM6 d/l's out there, you can refer to the stickies in this forum or the wiki.
Your device will faster, stable, nice icons, you get all the benefits from the new upgrade pointed to you and its feels like a new PPC at zero cost.
It's faster!
I can also confirm, that WM6 is much more faster (my subjective impression is about 1.5 to 2 times faster).
And it looks better
soniX
Can somebody post a benchmark, so we can measure the benefit of WM6.
Still there are many bugs, and different bugs in the WM6-ROMs.
Speed & Style aren't the only quality-attributes!
PostDeals said:
I have seen a lot of posts about cooked rom etc. Just curious what am I gaining by upgrading to WM6? I see there are still bugs to be worked out and community support is definitley the way to do it.
I am a newbie, and I know the upgrade isn't ready for me but I am tempted to test and help the community out but not sure what additonal features are added in WM6 that I should look for and test?
Also which ROM seems to be a all in one upgrade for the Cingular 8525?
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popularity amongst your geeky collegues.
A resume about WM6 / Exchnage 2007
A resume about WM6 / Exchnage 2007
If you're coming from the stock cingular rom (1.34), everything just feels a lot faster, and much more stable. You'd have to spend some time reading to get some of your cingular specific settings back. A lot of those settings are floating around the boards.
If you're after all inclusive, it looks like threedes released a rom with several added programs. If you just want a rom that feels like stock cingular, check out lvsw. that's what i'm running on my 8525, and it's great.
Some additional functionality as well. One of the small yet convenient features is the ease of which you can add a recently called number to existing contacts. in wm5 i would have to start as if creating a new contact and copy and paste the number to a new one. just my penny and a half
After a week with WM6 I've decided to go back to South African ROM 1.35 and Radio ROM 1.27.
Just too many bugs and minor flaws with WM6 I tried I just felt it ain't worth the hustle. ROM 1.35 was as fast and more stable with programs than WM6 was.
I will just kick back and wait for a possible REAL WM6 rom to appear from operators or something. Better to have a stable phone with less pretty icons than a flashy looking pda with bugs.
And since you can gain pretty much everything (xcept for those icons) with tweaks/utils I haven't really found WM6 to be any better.
But isn't WM6 at least twice as fast on your tytn? Mine is and this is a big benefit. Changed again from the e61 to the tytn..
SPB Soft works like a charm.. BT and WIFi do work with WPA2.. Vodafone works great as well.. Never had a more clear sound..
I wouldn't like to change back..
My personal view is that WM6, at least the version I have used, is no faster then the WM5 I was using. I think the reason people always claim the new ROM's are faster is because it is a clean install, the same thing happens with Windows on your PC.
Apart from lots of small tweaks here and there, there is nothing major in WM6 with the exception of the themed bars being more curvy. It's more of a WM5 with a couple of service packs to me. Still, worth a look.
Definitely noticed a significant improvemnt in responsiveness on my M3100.
Also, less phone lockups /issues I think.(subjective judgement)
steiale said:
But isn't WM6 at least twice as fast on your tytn? Mine is and this is a big benefit. Changed again from the e61 to the tytn..
SPB Soft works like a charm.. BT and WIFi do work with WPA2.. Vodafone works great as well.. Never had a more clear sound..
I wouldn't like to change back..
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Well this 1.35 ROM is as fast as WM6 I had. The AKU 3.3 ROM version I had was slow as hell. Speed wasn't the reason to change back from WM6 but the annoying little bugs:
- Windows Update wouldn't close but using Task Manager
- Turn WiFi Off from the balloon
- TomTom 6 ocassional start up problems
- Soft key setup's little change under Text Messages (Where it used to be New now had Delete)
- Pocket MSN/Live problems (constantly tried to open the GPRS connection after sign off and closing the app).
- SPB Backup problem (couldn't unlock a file)
- WiFi annoyance: Even when there were available APs, the
phone didn't announce it but you had to manually go see if there were any
These problems (that I remember off hand) are the reason why Im not going to use WM6 anymore until some legimit party releases one.
@Steiale: You said WPA2 works. Does that mean you can use WPA-AES encryption? If so: what exact version of WM6 are you using - vanilla, ...?
Thanks in advance,
Michael
Can somebody post a benchmark to compare?
2x faster, 1,5x faster isn't much representative.
If a Rom or Radio upgrade is released the signal strenght is always better and always faster and much better battery duration.
If it really was so, we should all have 365 days battery lifetime without charging and always full signal strenght and the program is opened before pressing a button.
Since upgrading to wm6 the most significant changes for me is that it runs faster than wm5 and the pocket outlook (messaging) now does html email
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BT and WIFi do work with WPA2...
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Which wm6 rom are you using?
WPA2 is important to me, and would be a reason to upgrade. You do mean WPA2 with AES?
Are these things improved on the mailclient:
- selection of smtp at time of sending (like is possible on symbian), or support for different smtp profiles
- specification of the imap root folder
- bluetooth pan (would love to use this to connect my laptop via tytn to 3G)
Thanks!
Jörg
Well, after just 1 week, WM6(Most Beautiful Edition) seems
1) much, mush faster than before. Faster than my friends WM5 on Dopod838Pro(Hermes).
2)more RAM even
3)Hmm, looks like I am the only one who likes the delete softkey in messaging replacing the new... Probably because I just use SMS...
4)Stable.
5)Faster reboot(useful if you tend to try new software almost every other day).
6)Widcomm can now power up easier(less or no driver memory error). Yeah, for me, the MS Bluetooth stack still sucks for A2DP).. File transfer seem more faster too, probably a pyschological effect from the faster interface..
I've had search on the forums, but have questions i can find the answer to.
I'm a PC tweaker and overclocker. I fancy doing the same with my phone. more out of curiosity then any real need.
MDA Compact 3 (tmobile)
Most used app is tomtom.
I've found the how to bit, and understand the the getting "CID unlocked" then doing the rom flash.
My main questions are.
Once flashed, is there much needed to be done to get it back on the network? ( buggered about on a mobi a while ago and getting it back on the network took ages)
What are the main benefits of upgrading?
I've seen the touchflo demo on youtube and know you can get roms for my phone. what is the best one for my phone/network?
And what the most stable one?
what would be a good rom for some one who install/uninstall lots of app and generally like to poke around, but really only uses it as a phone and gps?
Cheers for any pointers/help
Hi Megabite,
What do you mean with network?
The Network of your telco of your home network?
The best rom for MDA Compact is B&B 4.0 with touch flo.
GPS is working fine
But 4.1 is coming with the latest OS.
And the camera is also fixed. So just wait until released.
The rom is in beta testing
Thanks for the reply.
I meant network as in my telco, as in t-mobile UK.
So just to clarify, touchflow is the user interface that "sits" on windows mobile version 6 (or wm v5) or is it a seperate user interface?
and any date for the realse of 4.1
No, no network problems, you'll just have to run the network wizard to auto configure the gprs internet stuff.
The touchflo cube is just a pretty app that sits on top of the OS - it's ok, but I find the fact that the touchflo driver allows you to scroll up/down in lists and docs a lot more useful.
As far as 4.1 coming out, it comes out when Tom and his testers think its ready - no ETA yet from what I've seen
The Touchflo cube is an interface for accessing some commonly used programs, contacts etc, Touchflo also allows you to scroll using finger movements in other apps, eg internet explorer.
If you do upgrade to a WM6 rom the benefits are a more stable OS & HTML email amongst other things. Tmobile have stated that they will not be releasing a WM6 ROM for the MDA C3 so if you do want to upgrade you will have to use another carriers rom or a cooked rom. There are 2 official roms available, O2 UK and Dopod SEA, both are WWE (English). I use Tom's B&B v4.0 rom as it looks and feels the best and doesn't have any operator rubbish in it. In order to upgrade your rom to WM6 you will first need to CID (Carrier ID) unlock it as you have already discovered.
It is very easy to put the tmobile uk settings back in, there are plenty of cab files in this forum or the settings can be found on the web. If you really can't find them I have a cab file somewhere I can send you.
Regarding a release date for Toms B&B v4.1, Tom produces these roms as a hobby not a job, therefore you won't get a release date, just the rom when it is ready!
Hi Guys this is my first post so please be nice .
Anyways i have a desay m9(from china) with wm5 (smart phone) os5.1.478 (build 15706.3.5.2) I thought it was a Normal windows mobile 5. My phone has touch screen and an xscale pxa270 312mhz processor.
I was wondering if there is ANY way of upgrading to a real wm5 os thats not a smart phone edition?? or even better upgrading to wm6?? Or is there any way to emulate a real wm5 or6?? I dont like wm5 smartphone edition. Its too limitted and i cant install verytghing thats wm5 supported. I have very lil knowledge of wm. If there is anything that can help it would be great. You see i cant send any messages because the abc on my phone is in chinese and not handy at all. I know the real wm5 has atleast a virtual keyboard. Can any please help me or guide me to alternative solution>>?? eg: Some kind of writing software that works with sms's or some kind of wm6 emulator that i can launch on my phone? Or some kind of way to hack it?? Please anythin.
thanks in advance.
desay help with upgreade
Hi guys. All i want to know is if i can just download any version of wm6 or 5 and install it like a pc.
I never done it but i dont like wm5 smart phone edition. Its a touch screen smart phone...cant i upgrade to wm6?? please help.
No, you cant upgrade your smartphone to windows mobile 5.0 pocket pc edition, or to windows mobile 6.0.
But you can install windows mobile pocket pc application on windows mobile smartphone edition.
Link to site with explanations in your private messages.
hello
me too ive buy this phone and im verry strong to this wm5 'strange edition"
why we cant upgrade to wm6 or just wm5 'normal' edition?
can youi gimme the link to me for application cause all application i try is 'no for use on windwos ce" grrrr
thanks you all!!
ooo
Please give me link to normal WM too...Its terrible=(
Somebody give me link too..
Please guys give me some information or useful links about DESAY m9!
Don't ever ask again.
You know your device is strange, so nobody can help you.
If you insist to use WM instead of SP, go port the ROM yourself (and figure out how to flash the image yourself).
hello
starkwong what do you mean by sp?
thanks
Can anyone tell me how I can install "WM5 for Pocket PC" applications on this mobile phone?
hey noboday have a
soluce?
Hi,
I am big fan of Meshle's ROMs.
Only one thing. I am using BlackBerry Connect to have my corporate emails and the only way I found how to have it running fine was to downgrade to Meschle's ROM 3.01 with WM5.
I am missing a few WM6 functionalities and was wondering if any of you are in the same situation?
Any New ROMs will be cooked with WM5?
Is anyone working on a ROM containing BlackBerry Connect?
I don't know about BB Connect, but I seriously doubt anyone will release a new ROM with WM5. To put it in the mildest way I can, WM5 is UTTER CRAP compared to WM6 (which is not brilliant, itself). I'm not speaking about features but mere phone usability and stability.
I find it more likely that BB Connect will be included in some future WM6.1 ROM, but I don't know if anyone's working on it.
agree
Thanks for reply.
Yeah I agree... much less stable without talking about extra features...
So I will be either looking at future releases of BB Connect which will be working on WM6 or ROMs including BB Connect.
I'm really sorry if this is posted to the wrong forum or is way too much of a noob question but I was wondering if any of you could explain what the differences are between the different Windows Mobile 6/6.1/6.5 versions?
I'm asking here because I have an 8525 and have been using it with the official HTC upgrade to 6.0 ever since that version was released. I have also been a long time user of SPB Pockets Plus and recently upgraded to SPB Mobile Shell 3 which I am finding to be an incredible improvement however I am wondering what the newer version's of Mobile would add to my phone?
In case this matters for the potential usefullness of different versions, I am currently using my phone as both a business phone (I am at onsites more than in my office) as well as for personal amusement so I tend to use its ability to surf the web, check my email, access logmein, read various file types including txt, rtf, pdf, lit, etc. I am considering getting a Fortress once they come out so I can have a bigger screen but I guess that will depend on the price. Anyways, if anyone could clue me in on what the benefits are on upgrading my 8525 to the various versions I would be most gratefull, thanks in advance.
Well
Im not an expert but im a user since windows mobile 2003.
Windows Mobile 2003: The OS was fast... its stability offers to the user a new experince on a usage for a phone... you know eventough in that years the awsome images from Nokia or some other phone with Symbian OS offers nicely at sees the phone contacts and you cand add a little mor programs... cause programs in a phone isnt anything important... important.... was the signal strength so... WM2003 offer all the windows apps to a new whole device... but windows mobile 2003 jumps to A phone version! it was amazing i remember wel the HTC Blueangel! it was a big jump cause even if I use a casiopedia with windows CE isnt amazing than WM2033 from the HP iPAQ it has phone signal now... not a treo cause it allows you to see and edit offiece files! the most magnifiq use of that OS was The bluetooth manager **** that was a wizard!
Lately comes the WM5
But what da heck WM5 was so ugly?
Windows Mobile 5
This is the jump betwen ne images and new performance but because of that the OS was soooooo slooooooow i remember its bar like metallic awful! lol!!!!!
But what about the performance? it was stable hard as a stone!!!! many apps mostly dissapear in that jump from 2003 to WM5 and many of new comes from wm5... i really think that if we could have another device with WM5 maybe i could be dissapointed and drop off the WM devices but fortunatly i found a HTC Wizard aka Qtek9100... it was nice but it was slow... i love the skype i love the push email with the AKU2 holy ****! was a big hit! that aku... but the most impressionant was that we can see mostly the same Inteface as WM2003 but kindly better... not so for me.
Windows Mobile 6
After fall in this big forum in 2007 i cant remember where do i get all my apps and cabs... hardly for sure... when i get here... i wasamazed how coul the WM5 looks like this awsome UI i remember the change betwen WM2003 to WM5 and a say amazing buit ugly compared to SYmbian or PAlm os, but it has a new Speed... amazing speed!!! the old lovley BT manager dissapears but the new commanager was amazing the OS was a amzing and the messenger! all that new apps with flash growin up... really muck me up... I hate in sometime this site cause i think i screwed up my phone... but i couldnt understand the entire process of unlockin a phone from an official to a custom rom... and my device dont boots anymore so... my batt drops to the bottom it has no charge to try another Original upgrade and save it... so i wait a little buy a wall batt charger and that do the trick.... So much apps came in WM6. the htc touch with the cube was so incredible!
Windows Mobile 6.1
This looks like the 6 but the only change I can feel is the Speed no the performance... but the NetCF came and save us all it gives so much stability so much speed and compatibility to some more apps and development becomes fats to show us the Visual programming... In this part... the Touchflo isnt compatible and many people try to reach the cube and get it works but nothing it couldnt happend! many Flash players do the trick but with so much ram in it... Time for the Manilla to arrives... I mean first the new Touchflo 2 in 3D with the amazing Diamond!!!!!! that was a crack!!! really all people try to hack that applet but... none can
so it must be something to do in older devices with Processors that dont has 3d acelerators... and someone did it... there is a forgotten thread a biiiiiiig thread developing the manila 2D working for NON HTC DEVICES patch and it works very well kind year ago or year and a half... the mostly change betwen the 6 and 6.1 was the threaded SMS its all about the speed to be important for 6.1 all the UI remains since wm5.
Windows Mobile 6.5
We all wait for WM7 and M$ comes with his 6.5 new UI honeycomb start menu... new titanium transparencies and so much!!!! letters from some private investigator from the developmente mobile department sayin we gonna screw you all if post anything about 6.5 comes to town in Blueangel device.... YES BLUEANGEL!!!!!! that old device with wm2003 was the first to get 6.5 and man.... THANKS really thanks to SUN DReam!!! to show us the new 6.5... its all about the UI theperformnce when every beta build comes more fast... more stable
nicely in UI they shuts off the hexagons on the start menu... and improves more things like icons... but in compatibility since wm6.1 to 6.5 the files xlsx or docx or pptx cames from office 2007 can be oppened here on our devices...
I hope you can find the answer as you wish...
But remember once you flash your first ROM you will never stop... is like an adicction.
+ Que PPC
Wow man, really well put. You just took me for a trip down memory lane. Seems like yesterday when we were all drooling over wm5 aku2 then the cube. The suspense of the porting of wm6 we all called vanila. I had almost forgoten. Time flies.
Awesome answer!!!! Good to see this explanations for us the newbies...great.
Thanks
HTC Tytn
ROM: Shamanix WM6 Ultimate v2 Final
RADIO: 1.48.00.10
History: HTC VPA Compact (Magician), Jornada 720
Yes!!!
Something to remember! nice times...
And some other in hard researching!
Its amazing how the time flies and we still have this awsome site to be indeed with old devices at top of the new OS coming!
Ah! the windows mobile 2003! was amazing but i love wm6.5, somebody here that uses WMCE or 2002?