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I have seen a lot of posts about cooked rom etc. Just curious what am I gaining by upgrading to WM6? I see there are still bugs to be worked out and community support is definitley the way to do it.
I am a newbie, and I know the upgrade isn't ready for me but I am tempted to test and help the community out but not sure what additonal features are added in WM6 that I should look for and test?
Also which ROM seems to be a all in one upgrade for the Cingular 8525?
Just the faster navi and app run speed will make u wanna upgrade. btw..seems to be more stable than WM5.
PostDeals said:
I have seen a lot of posts about cooked rom etc. Just curious what am I gaining by upgrading to WM6? I see there are still bugs to be worked out and community support is definitley the way to do it.
I am a newbie, and I know the upgrade isn't ready for me but I am tempted to test and help the community out but not sure what additonal features are added in WM6 that I should look for and test?
Also which ROM seems to be a all in one upgrade for the Cingular 8525?
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Here's a MS press release that you can check out:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/feb07/02-11WM6SoftwarePR.mspx
As far as which WM6 d/l's out there, you can refer to the stickies in this forum or the wiki.
Your device will faster, stable, nice icons, you get all the benefits from the new upgrade pointed to you and its feels like a new PPC at zero cost.
It's faster!
I can also confirm, that WM6 is much more faster (my subjective impression is about 1.5 to 2 times faster).
And it looks better
soniX
Can somebody post a benchmark, so we can measure the benefit of WM6.
Still there are many bugs, and different bugs in the WM6-ROMs.
Speed & Style aren't the only quality-attributes!
PostDeals said:
I have seen a lot of posts about cooked rom etc. Just curious what am I gaining by upgrading to WM6? I see there are still bugs to be worked out and community support is definitley the way to do it.
I am a newbie, and I know the upgrade isn't ready for me but I am tempted to test and help the community out but not sure what additonal features are added in WM6 that I should look for and test?
Also which ROM seems to be a all in one upgrade for the Cingular 8525?
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popularity amongst your geeky collegues.
A resume about WM6 / Exchnage 2007
A resume about WM6 / Exchnage 2007
If you're coming from the stock cingular rom (1.34), everything just feels a lot faster, and much more stable. You'd have to spend some time reading to get some of your cingular specific settings back. A lot of those settings are floating around the boards.
If you're after all inclusive, it looks like threedes released a rom with several added programs. If you just want a rom that feels like stock cingular, check out lvsw. that's what i'm running on my 8525, and it's great.
Some additional functionality as well. One of the small yet convenient features is the ease of which you can add a recently called number to existing contacts. in wm5 i would have to start as if creating a new contact and copy and paste the number to a new one. just my penny and a half
After a week with WM6 I've decided to go back to South African ROM 1.35 and Radio ROM 1.27.
Just too many bugs and minor flaws with WM6 I tried I just felt it ain't worth the hustle. ROM 1.35 was as fast and more stable with programs than WM6 was.
I will just kick back and wait for a possible REAL WM6 rom to appear from operators or something. Better to have a stable phone with less pretty icons than a flashy looking pda with bugs.
And since you can gain pretty much everything (xcept for those icons) with tweaks/utils I haven't really found WM6 to be any better.
But isn't WM6 at least twice as fast on your tytn? Mine is and this is a big benefit. Changed again from the e61 to the tytn..
SPB Soft works like a charm.. BT and WIFi do work with WPA2.. Vodafone works great as well.. Never had a more clear sound..
I wouldn't like to change back..
My personal view is that WM6, at least the version I have used, is no faster then the WM5 I was using. I think the reason people always claim the new ROM's are faster is because it is a clean install, the same thing happens with Windows on your PC.
Apart from lots of small tweaks here and there, there is nothing major in WM6 with the exception of the themed bars being more curvy. It's more of a WM5 with a couple of service packs to me. Still, worth a look.
Definitely noticed a significant improvemnt in responsiveness on my M3100.
Also, less phone lockups /issues I think.(subjective judgement)
steiale said:
But isn't WM6 at least twice as fast on your tytn? Mine is and this is a big benefit. Changed again from the e61 to the tytn..
SPB Soft works like a charm.. BT and WIFi do work with WPA2.. Vodafone works great as well.. Never had a more clear sound..
I wouldn't like to change back..
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Well this 1.35 ROM is as fast as WM6 I had. The AKU 3.3 ROM version I had was slow as hell. Speed wasn't the reason to change back from WM6 but the annoying little bugs:
- Windows Update wouldn't close but using Task Manager
- Turn WiFi Off from the balloon
- TomTom 6 ocassional start up problems
- Soft key setup's little change under Text Messages (Where it used to be New now had Delete)
- Pocket MSN/Live problems (constantly tried to open the GPRS connection after sign off and closing the app).
- SPB Backup problem (couldn't unlock a file)
- WiFi annoyance: Even when there were available APs, the
phone didn't announce it but you had to manually go see if there were any
These problems (that I remember off hand) are the reason why Im not going to use WM6 anymore until some legimit party releases one.
@Steiale: You said WPA2 works. Does that mean you can use WPA-AES encryption? If so: what exact version of WM6 are you using - vanilla, ...?
Thanks in advance,
Michael
Can somebody post a benchmark to compare?
2x faster, 1,5x faster isn't much representative.
If a Rom or Radio upgrade is released the signal strenght is always better and always faster and much better battery duration.
If it really was so, we should all have 365 days battery lifetime without charging and always full signal strenght and the program is opened before pressing a button.
Since upgrading to wm6 the most significant changes for me is that it runs faster than wm5 and the pocket outlook (messaging) now does html email
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BT and WIFi do work with WPA2...
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Which wm6 rom are you using?
WPA2 is important to me, and would be a reason to upgrade. You do mean WPA2 with AES?
Are these things improved on the mailclient:
- selection of smtp at time of sending (like is possible on symbian), or support for different smtp profiles
- specification of the imap root folder
- bluetooth pan (would love to use this to connect my laptop via tytn to 3G)
Thanks!
Jörg
Well, after just 1 week, WM6(Most Beautiful Edition) seems
1) much, mush faster than before. Faster than my friends WM5 on Dopod838Pro(Hermes).
2)more RAM even
3)Hmm, looks like I am the only one who likes the delete softkey in messaging replacing the new... Probably because I just use SMS...
4)Stable.
5)Faster reboot(useful if you tend to try new software almost every other day).
6)Widcomm can now power up easier(less or no driver memory error). Yeah, for me, the MS Bluetooth stack still sucks for A2DP).. File transfer seem more faster too, probably a pyschological effect from the faster interface..
I don't think I'll switch yet obviously because I'll wait for a stable version, but, in the end, will it be worth switching? What are the main advantages of WM6?
Native SIP, that's my main concern and the only real main difference i see ^^
and office and html-mail
El_Mariachi said:
I don't think I'll switch yet obviously because I'll wait for a stable version, but, in the end, will it be worth switching? What are the main advantages of WM6?
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seems stable enough to me, im well happy with LVSW ROM
wm6 is faster, trust me it worth it
I'm using the LVSW ROM here and everything is working good here too. It's not a big change like WM2003SE -> WM5.. but there are some nice changes in WM6. I find it as stable as WM5 for a normal user like myself. By not upgrading you are cutting yourself out from the "Trinity Mobile 6" forum in xda-developers... which should be reason enough to upgrade alone...
I'll offer some ridiculous opinion.
It is worth upgrading to WM6 once you have already upgraded to WM6.
But truthfully, there isnt that much extra in WM6. So it's not especially worth upgrading until you have upgraded... at which point you have nothing to lose.
I suppose it won't do any harm, if it is faster, I would be interested...but in what way? Is that just in running apps and stuff? Also, what's the user memory available?
Well, I found it worth switching to mUn's version, its faster, I have office 2007, better wifi, not any major change, but yeah, its worth it!
Most of those switching at present are doing it 'because they can'
We want to have the most up to date devices, and we love fiddling and sometimes faffing, sometimes f***ing!
If your PPC use is mission critical, don't even consider it until RTM versions are available. Both current WM6 versions are works in progress, fantastic though they both are.
Each has strengths/weaknesses and these forums are invaluable in shaking those down; hopefully before too long we will have fully functional versions we can recommend to everyone.
Once mun_rus fixes the ActiveSync problems, we will be much closer to a fully configured WM6 build which is fast and reliable, and there is no doubt at all the LVSW won't be far behind.
Hopefully their sterling efforts will shame HTC into providing a 'factory' ROM for those who don't like the risks involved in unofficial ROMs, but I suspect that these 2 will remain ahead of the game in providing faster, more memory efficient,customised versions.
NeilM said:
Most of those switching at present are doing it 'because they can'
We want to have the most up to date devices, and we love fiddling and sometimes faffing, sometimes f***ing!
If your PPC use is mission critical, don't even consider it until RTM versions are available. Both current WM6 versions are works in progress, fantastic though they both are.
Each has strengths/weaknesses and these forums are invaluable in shaking those down; hopefully before too long we will have fully functional versions we can recommend to everyone.
Once mun_rus fixes the ActiveSync problems, we will be much closer to a fully configured WM6 build which is fast and reliable, and there is no doubt at all the LVSW won't be far behind.
Hopefully their sterling efforts will shame HTC into providing a 'factory' ROM for those who don't like the risks involved in unofficial ROMs, but I suspect that these 2 will remain ahead of the game in providing faster, more memory efficient,customised versions.
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Excellent round up of most users' opinion here I guess I'm using LVSW's version now, no huge changes and stuff, but the extra speed and cool new looks are enough for me , and of course if it's there, why not try it
you guys present compelling reasons to check out the WM6 ROMS, however, i have a couple of concerns/questions: does GPS & TomTom 6 work and internet connection sharing work with the upgraded ROM? what about the Office 2007 apps included with WM6 are they working? i just began reading the threads so forgive me if these questions have been answered already. thx for the replies...
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you guys present compelling reasons to check out the WM6 ROMS, however, i have a couple of concerns/questions: does GPS & TomTom 6 work and internet connection sharing work with the upgraded ROM? what about the Office 2007 apps included with WM6 are they working? i just began reading the threads so forgive me if these questions have been answered already. thx for the replies...
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Everything you mention works. Not sure about the internet sharing tho, can someone tell if that works?
Internet sharing works perfectly well
Will the same software still work? Along with backups?
I follow you , My problem is that i got too much soft on my wm5, and it'll take me too much time to reinstall all this. So can we backup from wm5 and restore to wm6 ? ( is there some changes in the registry architecture ? )
thanks for your answer.
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I follow you , My problem is that i got too much soft on my wm5, and it'll take me too much time to reinstall all this. So can we backup from wm5 and restore to wm6 ? ( is there some changes in the registry architecture ? )
thanks for your answer.
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I ain't no ROM-chef, but to my knowledge the registry is very much the same on both OS'. However: i must stress that it is very unwise to restore backups that were made on a different ROM image (that's even the case for same OS ROM's, like WM5 aku 2 >to> WM5 aku 3 for instance).
For best performance without any quirks, you should best always rebuild the device (and hey; WM6 probably makes you require less third-party apps )
The only problem i see for now is that video call and VOIP don't work well on those WM6 roms, everything else is fine and nice but it kinda takes away the benefits of upgrading to WM6. I'm going back to WM5 after a week of testing but I admire the work of those fantastic devs !
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I ain't no ROM-chef, but to my knowledge the registry is very much the same on both OS'. However: i must stress that it is very unwise to restore backups that were made on a different ROM image (that's even the case for same OS ROM's, like WM5 aku 2 >to> WM5 aku 3 for instance).
For best performance without any quirks, you should best always rebuild the device (and hey; WM6 probably makes you require less third-party apps )
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But with all those same apps work on WM6?
Has anyone tried Spb GPRS monitor on it?
I need this program cuz i run my laptop's internet through it.
Ive seen a lot of new roms, some based on official and some built up themselves.
First, whats the latest on an official WM6 ROM from T-Mob UK?
Second, whats the best rom for a UK Compact III? How does it handle the lack of Wifi. Im mainly intrested to hear from those Compact III users who have switched and if they have noticed any problems or missing features.
Third and finally, is there a download for the original rom? Or can I flash it to the T-mob WM6 rom (if one comes out) if ive flashed to a 3rd party rom?
I had problems with some WM5 roms on my prophet in that the sound was too low or it contained crap. Sometimes things didnt work like when you clicked on a text entry box the keyboard didnt appear.
Thanks
dannyoneill said:
Ive seen a lot of new roms, some based on official and some built up themselves.
First, whats the latest on an official WM6 ROM from T-Mob UK?
Second, whats the best rom for a UK Compact III? How does it handle the lack of Wifi. Im mainly intrested to hear from those Compact III users who have switched and if they have noticed any problems or missing features.
Third and finally, is there a download for the original rom? Or can I flash it to the T-mob WM6 rom (if one comes out) if ive flashed to a 3rd party rom?
I had problems with some WM5 roms on my prophet in that the sound was too low or it contained crap. Sometimes things didnt work like when you clicked on a text entry box the keyboard didnt appear.
Thanks
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WM6 works really good on my MDA from t mobile.
I'm actually using Bepe WWE rom flashed with USPL, I have already flashed two devices without any problems (exept problems with doing it on vista but it was also solved).
Generally wm6 works faster and is more stable then wm5 but nothing is perfect, i've notticed that some programs have problems to run properly.
Spb Gprs monitor doesn't work at all and spb backup has problems with reading files from windows directory.
wm6 is far better then wm5 and i can recomend it to anyone even if you must used to some issues.
there is no official wm6 rom from t-mobile uk and probably there will not be one, but if i am wrong you can obviously flash your device with it.
mda mms settings
Hi there, need help with my mda vario. I unlocked it for cingular and works fine but then i upgraded the rom to 2.26 and can not get my mms work. The MMS settings is totally blocked out. Someone please help!!
Hi everyone !!!
Could enyone help to take this desition ..coul'd the old memebers help me with this?
Is there any benefit installing WM6 on this type of PPC ? will the micro processor stand it ? will I have enough memory to install it ?
All suggestions will be wollcome
thanks
Rodrigo
Depends whether you accept the limitation of each Os version. There is no complete functional WM6. especially the Video call doesnt function at none of the available ROMS. Anyhow no worries about the Hardware, there is no issiues.
Personal Opinion: I am on WM6 since it was available. I wouldn't go back.
I am running on the PDAVIET 2.10.11 ROM and I have to say I had never before such Stable and fast ROM.
I would disagree
I have tried pretty much every WM6 ROM going and have now gone back to WM5 (Jwrights AKU 3.2) and it is soooooo much more stable. Rarely have to soft reset and every app functions as it should. Basically the limitations of the WM6 roms highlight that none of them are specifically designed for the universal and as such, will never be quite 'right'. If HTC release a WM6 ROM for the universal then it might be worth trying again, but I am now prepared to wait until I get a Kaiser before trying WM6 again.
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I would disagree
I have tried pretty much every WM6 ROM going and have now gone back to WM5 (Jwrights AKU 3.2) and it is soooooo much more stable. Rarely have to soft reset and every app functions as it should. Basically the limitations of the WM6 roms highlight that none of them are specifically designed for the universal and as such, will never be quite 'right'. If HTC release a WM6 ROM for the universal then it might be worth trying again, but I am now prepared to wait until I get a Kaiser before trying WM6 again.
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One thing I hate about JWright's 3.2 is that Windows Media Player can't play FULL SCREEN stream videos or TVs. Booting up takes a LOOOOOOOOONG time too.
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I would disagree
I have tried pretty much every WM6 ROM going and have now gone back to WM5 (Jwrights AKU 3.2) and it is soooooo much more stable. Rarely have to soft reset and every app functions as it should. Basically the limitations of the WM6 roms highlight that none of them are specifically designed for the universal and as such, will never be quite 'right'. If HTC release a WM6 ROM for the universal then it might be worth trying again, but I am now prepared to wait until I get a Kaiser before trying WM6 again.
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There is one important think that I have observed to make WM6 stable. The Phone Radio band is usually set "auto" (GSM/3G) however in low signal areas, radio search for better signal and the device starts to switch between GSM and 3G. This frequent change makes the device unstable. Therefore I set my device to "manual" and choose GSM. (I dont have 3G anyhow).
Beside there are still the issue of which radio Radio version. some say 1.15 is better; then other say they have problems with it.
Anyhow it ends up almost like above issue. If the Radio version is not right and the signal is low the device keep looking for better receive.
Therefore Radio has to bee also choosen correctly for YOUR OWN AREA.
Again I have try all the ROMS and all of them had some miner issues but on the aspect stability and speed I am in fewer of PDAVIET especially the last version 2.10.11. After using it for 5 days, not ones hanged!!!
Booting up takes a LOOOOOOOOONG time too
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Not much longer than WM6 on my uni??
After using for some months the last cooked roms (MARY, SCHAP's 4.30, FAMAN, etc.), which are beautiful and has lots of enhancements (including lots of space for super clean ones), I am tired to find so much bugs that make it impossible to have all functions working well continuously.
The one I have now, schap's 4.30, has serious problems with bluetooth and connections (wifi settings dissappearing, A2DP continuously stopping, etc).
So I thing I will go back to the original HTC WM6 rom.
Does anybody know if there has been any newer realease after the beginning of August, were it was first released in Asia?
[in Europe it has never been released].
Thanks!
To me all the cooked roms a worth it.The HTC branded are lousy,overloaded,slower,locked,their dialpad sucks plus after spending all this money HTC doesn't even take care of its european and american customers just by releasing a new rom and on top of all these issues wifi for me was something almost imposible ( it didn´t work with wm5,with the Dopod wm6 roms hardly worked and with the cooked ones wifi is not a problem anymore.
A2DP is kinna buggy I agree but they make it work with some other patches as for the disappearing wifi,I believe that's a wm6 issue.
P.S-You might be tired of bugs,but be nicer and smoother when you say you are tired of finding bugs,we got every rom for free with their effort and time.
I made the decision to go back to WM5 in december.
I was using FAMAN's release since june and as I'm using SPB mobile shell I found HTC HOME useless.
First imprssion with this return in WM5 was really good especially concerning reactivity. The problem with WM5 is SDHC support. I'm using 2Go mini SD and got corruptions and many problems with WM5.
Then came SCHAP's 4.30 and I must say that I'm completely satisfied with this ROM. The only annoying poit is thas latest french release has a bug with ringtones but the first version tweaked vithout video calls is really fantastic.
So think about it before downgrading.