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Differences between the WM6 ROMS

I know there are a lot of people trying to figure out what the differences are between each rom and I def do not.
WM XDA Live (WMXL) v0.20x (Poll 1)
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WM LVSW Edition (26-3-07) (Poll 2)
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WM VI Black Edition v1.2 (Poll 3)
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This is what I am using b/c it diff looks cooler with the nice BLACK interface hence the black edition!

Lvsw Rocks
LVSW is the bet rom
it has no third party apps and is very clean
no issuse what so ever
only prob is the call volume drops for a sec or two
KEEP UP THE Good Work

I'm actually only using LVSW Edition (25-3-07) with the commgrfix installed separately, i didn't see the point in flashing the whole OS again just for that

exactly like here, but for new users - there is one more problem resolved in complete RUU without necessity to find the solution for commgr problem
nbedford said:
I'm actually only using LVSW Edition (25-3-07) with the commgrfix installed separately, i didn't see the point in flashing the whole OS again just for that
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So basically I am seeing that people perfer the LVSW --- I mean as far as features/pre-loaded software/calls.
Are they all the same? Does one ROM offer better calling features/quality over the other?

So far it is LVSW yes, but Black version 1.3 is out soon, and a number of us are beta testing WMXL v0.3 which is scheduled for next sunday (1st april).

mrvanx said:
So far it is LVSW yes, but Black version 1.3 is out soon, and a number of us are beta testing WMXL v0.3 which is scheduled for next sunday (1st april).
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I'm comparing LVSW latest (3-26) release with XDA Live .3 beta (two different Hermes -- see below). I don't see much difference in their operation although they each offer different utilities, etc., and I've had a number of my apps "struggle" on LVSW after installing/running smoothily on XDA. It really does come down to how you personalize the OS and whether one cooked version is better than another with the apps you use.

Cingular 8525 -- XDA Live WM6 v0.3 beta - CE OS 5.1.195(Build 17217.2.3.0) Radio 1.38
HTC TyTN -- LVSW WM6 v3-26-07 - CE OS 5.2.968 (Build 17736.0.2.0) Radio 1.38
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I like LVSW, i've only tried one built (25/03/07), but the two in your sig have an obvious difference and thats the OS build number.
I understand Black 1.3 has an even newer aku (0.2.1 vs. LVSW's 0.2.0)

nbedford said:
I'm actually only using LVSW Edition (25-3-07) with the commgrfix installed separately, i didn't see the point in flashing the whole OS again just for that
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same here as well

Plans for New LVSW ROM

I asked LVSW if there were any plans for a new ROM in the future and he returned the following message with permission to post the plans.
From LVSW
Plans:
1) Quick Welcome Screen (Align screen Only)
2) Push Right Soft-key on Today - Calendar Monthly
3) New OEM
4) New SimManager (v5.30)
5) ADD GifPlayer (v 1.10.1020611.0) - from Trinity
6) New BTftp (v 1.1.26907.1) - form Trinity
7) ADD AdobeFlashLite Player 1_0_1103611_0 (from Trinity)
8) ADD FlashLitePIEPlugIn 1_0_1103611_0 (from Trinity)
9) New TweakUI:
p.s. you may public my plans
and send me links
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HTC Trinity Black - IPL 0.5 / SPL 1.20.Oli / ROM 1.25.0.2 / GSM 1.38.00.11 (WM5 LVSW Edition)
HTC Hermes 200 - IPL 1.01 / SPL 1.40.Oli / ROM 3.24.0.4 / GSM 1.38.00.10 (WM6 LVSW Edition)
DONATE (WebMoney) R226644240990 Z326722340152 U416891718820 E177502481362

Great, sounds very tasty (and usefull of course)
What about release estimation - days, weeks, month... ?

good I'm waiting

- new unstretched 3G icon

Will future LVSW release use newer WM6 builds?

nbedford said:
Will future LVSW release use newer WM6 builds?
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may be, but now I have not "new build sources"

Hi!
Great rom

reg edit maybe?

sounds good. i'll be waiting.

@LVSW - Can you get rid of the Voice Dialer? There are better options around.

wht abt ptt
maybe we can get a cab for ptt added in a possible new rom, i luv ur roms work excellent, lvsw is the 1st rom i ever flashed

joedoe said:
@LVSW - Can you get rid of the Voice Dialer? There are better options around.
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Without problems

A small and possibly large wish would be to have the ROM built by LVSW and with the basic features that he plans to put in place with the posted cabs on the original post when launched for personal upgrading. These cabs would have to be compatible with the new ROM release. Everybody wants to customize their device to there liking and unfortunatly the ROM cooker is not going to satisfy everyone wants and needs within a ROM. LVSW has been creating extremely stable ROM's for our enjoyment and needs. If LVSW is in agreement with such a plan this post could be a place that individuals could post the types of extra cabs that people would like for customizing.

lvsw said:
may be, but now I have not "new build sources"
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Would it be possible to rip the OS from Black 2.0 and use that?

Roaming Triangle icon on the status bar
Would it be possible to look into the roaming issue that many of us are having?
This is just a wish, but I understand that there maybe other higher priorities.
Thansk!

lvsw said:
Without problems
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If so, please do.

I agree with releasing the addons as CABs as I like to have as much program and storage free on my Pocket PC. This should only be some addons, otherwise there's no point in using one cooker's ROMs over another as they would just be a base OS. I vote that TweakUI should be integrated as well as the shortened welcome screen (space saved I assume), Calendar Monthly soft key and BTftp.
A suggestion I have for a program that should be integrated is David Andrš Birthdays plugin: http://pda.jasnapaka.com/birthdays/
It displays birthdays and anniversaries on your Today screen ahead of time and it's tiny in size. You can choose to hide it when there are no events coming up and customise a lot of the way it display things.
Looking forward to the new one LVSW! And thanks for being an intermediary Lurch.

Oppressa said:
A suggestion I have for a program that should be integrated is David Andrš Birthdays plugin: http://pda.jasnapaka.com/birthdays/
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Is this a joke?

Looking forward to the upcoming release. I've tried several ROMs and LVSW is the most stable.
What flavors of release are you planning, OS only, OS/Radio, etc?
Thank you for all your hard work LSVW.

layer1 said:
Looking forward to the upcoming release. I've tried several ROMs and LVSW is the most stable.
What flavors of release are you planning, OS only, OS/Radio, etc?
Thank you for all your hard work LSVW.
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We can always extract the OS only nbh..but I would suggest making it an OS only since many of us already have the most up-to-date SPL and radio, this will make it a lot easier for some newbies.

Build 20755 etc..

Hi all,
I keep reading up on new builds for windows mobile 6.1. i.e 20755 over 20270 (just the standard naked ROM).
Whats the difference difference for the new builds. Are there any release notes from Microsoft on what has been updated?
Otherwise whats the point in upgrading?
Regards,

well
As microsoft/htc is never going to release an official 6.1 for the hermes, we have people from all over the world who managed to strip the ROM from different devices and 'port' it for the hermes, hence we as punters to this site have been enjoying.
There is no 'official' word, but as you can see, from different threads on this forum that flash lite 3.1 and ultimately the new Pocket IE can be ported succesfully.
Mainly these builds come from China? correct me if I am wrong but those guys are very resourceful and we are grateful for it, just wish they would share.

your first post...welcome to the forum. check out veyka's excellent thread for any further questions u may have! Happy Flashing!!

mootmaina said:
Otherwise whats the point in upgrading?
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Just the thrill of flashing!

mootmaina said:
Otherwise whats the point in upgrading?
Regards,
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1) speed
2) New features (zoom in IE, flash lite 3.1 in the core, outlook enhancements)
MS dont put out builds for phones, they give the OEMS a os customisation kit, its upto them to out out updates + release notes + ect.

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I love NFSFAN"s roms. He does such great work. I know in his knew v12 manilsa2D exists but, I personally don't care for the 6.5 roms. I'm not a great fan of the start menu system. Along with some other things. I'm starting a bounty with $50.00 to try to convince NFSFAN to update the WM6.1 rom for sprint. Hoping others may feel the same way. Please chime in with a donation, and see if we can get his attention.
Thanks For Looking ..... T M Z

I would be all for it as well. Not a big fan of 6.5 yet. But I think about the only thing that can be updated on 6.1 now is some of the apps. I think there has not been any new 6.1 sys released since the release of NSFAN's last 6.1 roms. I am so used to M2D now that I don't want to switch to a different UI until I get a new phone, and I don't know when that will be.

Exactly, what is there left to do with 6.1? it's a dead end. everything new is with 6.5. why you dont like the start menu is beyond me. the old style start menu is so dumb and is one of the (if not the)number one complaints of WM. 6.5 is where it's at and the future. I'd be tempted to offer a bounty to NOT work on 6.1 anymore as that will stunt the developement and growth of 6.5 and 7 (hopefully very soon).. Most, if not all, the big name chefs have now finalized their 6.1 roms and moved on to 6.5. I would focus your bounty money on working out a custom start menu or whatever to fix what you dont like in 6.5 because it is so far superior to 6.1 it's not funny.

Wow. I hate 6.1 so much that I started using Android exclusively. Can't believe anyone would want a 6.1 ROM let along pay for it. Not trying to be rude. Just saying

I have tried 6.5 for a week and went back to 6.1
Phone was really slow and i find titanium plug-in really useless.
Start menu better in 6.5 then in 6.1 ? Maybe ....i use Quickmenu anyways!
So yea 6.1 rules !!

dasfast said:
I would be all for it as well. Not a big fan of 6.5 yet. But I think about the only thing that can be updated on 6.1 now is some of the apps. I think there has not been any new 6.1 sys released since the release of NSFAN's last 6.1 roms. I am so used to M2D now that I don't want to switch to a different UI until I get a new phone, and I don't know when that will be.
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NFSFANs 6.5 V12 ROM has Manila2D in it. 6.5 is way more finger friendly and has purdy icons too!

If the start menu in 6.5 is so "finger friendly", why do I keep launching applications when I am simply trying to scroll the list? There should be some dead space between the icons in the start menu, IMO. And I still think M2D in 6.5 defeats the purpose of 6.5. Titanium is the new interface with 6.5 and I am not that fond of it. To each his own. This is exactly why there is a thing called variety.

Try reflashing!
If you have problems with WM6.5's scrolling, I strongly suggest flashing the ROM 3 times in a row (wich should be done for any custom ROM to work well, btw).
The scrolling and response of the screen is 100 times better on WM6.5 than on 6.1.
You don't have to use Titanium, you simply take it off the Today screen items and use the built in manilla (touchflo).
The only difference will be that the start menu will have bigger icons (wich is more finger friendly and scrolls just as well as an iPhone) but the interface will look the same as with WM6.1 with manilla 2D. You can even use the reStart app. and organise your start menu just the way you prefer!
You should definitely give it another try! But remember to flash the 6.5 ROM 3 times and also, flash from a original 6.1 ROM and not from a custom one.

Hey guys. I notices i'm starting to get a debate here. That's not why I started this thread. I appreciate some of your guys advice, but believe me I have more than one 6900. One with 6.1 and one with 6.5. I do know the difference between them. The whole reason I started this thread is because my personal prefence is 6.1. I strongly believe there are others who feel the same way I do. I would really appreciate if we could stay on topic here. That is people that want to support and update for the 6.1 sprint rom. I just have to say to all others, if you would like to pm me with other suggestions that's fine, but please don't clog my thread up. I'm hoping toget support from you out there so we might be able to get a 6.1 update. Thanks everyone. T M Z

Sorry if you feel this is polution but the thing is, this thread shouldn't even exist if you understood what we mean:
WM6.5 is the updated WM6.1... They could have called it 6.1b if they wanted to...
Globaly, you should see this as an evolution of Windows Mobile 6. The 6.5 ROM is WM6 and any 6.X ROM is an evolution but is still WM6...
It's like if you told microsoft to keep supporting and improving Windows XP SP1 because you don't like what they did with SP2 or SP3... It is still Windows XP anyways...
Well WM6.5 is still WM6 just like WM6.1 was... You can do exactly the same things as with 6.1, but better.
You can decide not to upgrade to 6.5 if you wish, that is fine , but there is nothing more that can be improved in 6.1. If you want to make your ROM better than the actual 6.1, there is only one option: 6.5.
Once again, the only reason you had a bad experience is from bad installation of the 6.5 ROM. Just try and you'll see! Like my mom said to me: You'll thank me later...

Have you guys read the thread? All those issues with speed and response are solved by flashing to a stock ROM then flashing to NFSFAN's ROM. Ultimately choice is why we are all here so if 6.1 is your cup of tea then knock yourselves out.

tmz said:
Hey guys. I notices i'm starting to get a debate here. That's not why I started this thread. I appreciate some of your guys advice, but believe me I have more than one 6900. One with 6.1 and one with 6.5. I do know the difference between them. The whole reason I started this thread is because my personal prefence is 6.1. I strongly believe there are others who feel the same way I do. I would really appreciate if we could stay on topic here. That is people that want to support and update for the 6.1 sprint rom. I just have to say to all others, if you would like to pm me with other suggestions that's fine, but please don't clog my thread up. I'm hoping toget support from you out there so we might be able to get a 6.1 update. Thanks everyone. T M Z
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And again, your thread makes no sense. Again, what is there to upgrade on 6.1? As has been said, 6.5 IS the update of 6.1. If you don't like the update, then don't do it. Otherwise, make a list of what YOU want 6.5 to be and send that to Microsoft. Either live with 6.1 or go to 6.5, but there will be NO major revisions to 6.1 EVER again. As I said, it's dead and wasting developer time on it is detrimental to the evolution of our WM phones.

Nagrom Nniuq said:
And again, your thread makes no sense. Again, what is there to upgrade on 6.1? As has been said, 6.5 IS the update of 6.1. If you don't like the update, then don't do it. Otherwise, make a list of what YOU want 6.5 to be and send that to Microsoft. Either live with 6.1 or go to 6.5, but there will be NO major revisions to 6.1 EVER again. As I said, it's dead and wasting developer time on it is detrimental to the evolution of our WM phones.
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Very well said

I don't see why you guys have to bash him. He wanted to start a thread like this, in the hopes that I update 6.1. I told him that I will update it if it is worth my time, and there is more than just one request.

Neither 6.1 nor 6.5 UI is of interest to me (nor is TF2D) - I layer SPB Shell on top. Given that, I much prefer the stability of 6.1 over 6.5, and would love to see NFSFAN continue to update 6.1 - assuming there are still improvements to be made.
NFSFAN Roms are the best out there!

I mean really is this a community or a mob? Cause I mean, if the guy likes 6.1 better then he does, it's his choice...Personally I love 6.1 more than 6.5 because it's more stable and has a better feel to it
So if you want to bash me as well then go ahead, but I will warn you....you will not like me at the end of it

Winmo6.1 versus 6.5 is not like xp sp1 versus xp sp2.
Winmo 6.0 and 6.1 are like XP
Winmo 6.5 is like Vista
Winmo 7.0 will be like, well Windows 7
Would everyone agree Vista is better than XP??
Yes 6.5 is more finger friendly, personally I like the new start menu, scrolling, and while not the best, the new PIE is a step up as well. I still prefer M2d to titanium and always will. HTC rocks, can't wait for sense or a qvga m2.5.
6.1 was stable, the last Bell 1.31 was ultra fast (dare I say faster than V12???), stable and everything worked. I am not sure if 1.31 has the "latest" or last 6.1 build number but the OS is not always the only part of a ROM. The parts are what makes up the whole. There has since been new versions of RSS, office, adobe, audio manager, camera, and M2D itself. Sure a guy could try and load up all the latest apps after digging all the latest cabs (if available, or cab up the oem's), but a new packaged 6.1 with all the latest updates that 6.5 offers would certainly appeal to some people.
There was a thread in the base Vogue forum called 6.1 or 6.5? Not many people chimed in there. Perhaps all this discussion would be better moved there and we could respect the original posters wishes of having this as a pledge thread only.

jmitr said:
6.1 was stable, the last Bell 1.31 was ultra fast (dare I say faster than V12???), stable and everything worked.
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I stopped flashing roms after Bell 1.31 just for the exact reason you mentioned. FAST, STABLE AND EVERYTHING WORKED Isn't that all we want? It took NFSFAN a long time of trial and error to reach NIRVANA with 6.1 and it will take a little bit of time to reach that same reliability with 6.5. Until then I will stay with 1.31. I think a lot of people just want the newest 6.5 roms because it is unique and they will sacrifice stability and live with a few things not working yet. I will wait until 6.5 is as reliable as the 1.31 before I flash it.
As for updating 6.1, I can see that it could be tweaked a little but I believe it has reached it limits of perfection.
D.

I'm going to weigh in here too. Like I mentioned in the 6.1 v. 6.5 poll, I stick with 6.1 so I can use my Redfly. I also find the 6.5 interface to be ugly, but like joemike, I use Spb MS3 as my interface. I have used NFSFAN's 6.1 ROM and it worked ok. The bluetooth wouldn't connect with my Redfly and the dialer had serious issues. About half the time I'd go to it, the numbers wouldn't show. The last time it happened was when I was on call and it was 1:30am. The next day I flashed back to the stock Verizon ROM. This is MY phone and MY issues, I don't in any way want to slam what NFSFAN has done! For my purposes, the current 6.1 ROM won't work for me.
Given all that biching ;-) I'd still like to use a custom ROM. My ideal ROM would be very clean, very minimal, fast and stable. I don't want touchflo, manilla, or any "today screen" programs, I use MS3. I'd like the stock bluetooth stack, Office Mobile apps, the CDMA smart dialer, .net 3.5 or 3.7, and that is about it. I don't know anything about cooking ROMs or what makes one fast and stable, but that is where I'd put the emphasis on rather than adding software that gets updated. Since this is my only phone and it needs to be available 24x7 I had to go back to stock, but I'm not done looking for the perfect 6.1 ROM. So far NFSFAN's has come the closest, but I need a couple of tweaks before it will replace the stock version.
However, if I see a new clean 6.1 from NFSFAN, I'll be flashing again ;-)

NFSFAN said:
I don't see why you guys have to bash him. He wanted to start a thread like this, in the hopes that I update 6.1. I told him that I will update it if it is worth my time, and there is more than just one request.
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Agreed, when I was posting every day in Nfsfan's vogue rom thread,
there were a few handfuls of people in his thread that asked about updating 6.1 roms.
I say to each his own.
If he wants 6.1, let him have 6.1
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I mean really is this a community or a mob? Cause I mean, if the guy likes 6.1 better then he does, it's his choice...Personally I love 6.1 more than 6.5 because it's more stable and has a better feel to it
So if you want to bash me as well then go ahead, but I will warn you....you will not like me at the end of it
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haha, quick, lets flood whosdaman's inbox with messages aobut how lame 6.1 is!!! lets go!!!
jmitr said:
Winmo6.1 versus 6.5 is not like xp sp1 versus xp sp2.
Winmo 6.0 and 6.1 are like XP
Winmo 6.5 is like Vista
Winmo 7.0 will be like, well Windows 7
Would everyone agree Vista is better than XP??
Yes 6.5 is more finger friendly, personally I like the new start menu, scrolling, and while not the best, the new PIE is a step up as well. I still prefer M2d to titanium and always will. HTC rocks, can't wait for sense or a qvga m2.5.
6.1 was stable, the last Bell 1.31 was ultra fast (dare I say faster than V12???), stable and everything worked. I am not sure if 1.31 has the "latest" or last 6.1 build number but the OS is not always the only part of a ROM. The parts are what makes up the whole. There has since been new versions of RSS, office, adobe, audio manager, camera, and M2D itself. Sure a guy could try and load up all the latest apps after digging all the latest cabs (if available, or cab up the oem's), but a new packaged 6.1 with all the latest updates that 6.5 offers would certainly appeal to some people.
There was a thread in the base Vogue forum called 6.1 or 6.5? Not many people chimed in there. Perhaps all this discussion would be better moved there and we could respect the original posters wishes of having this as a pledge thread only.
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I beg to differ, vista is horrible.
you can't compare 6.5 to it. haha

WM 6.5 versus 6.1 speed?

WM 6.5 looks great! but is it faster than 6.1? I'm currently using Schap's WM6.1 and looking forwarding to an OS upgrade if it provides better speed performance. In addition, which ROM will provide a minimum of 20mb program after load. Thank you for the input

ive used the 6.1 roms for a long time decided to change to a 6.5 rom but i had problems with it such as memory shortage and i didnt like a lot of programs on it. i didnt find it any quicker so have changed back to a 6.1 rom which i prefer. as for choosing a good rom your going to have to flash and look through lots of different roms to find one you like or cook one your self.
Have fun

The core of the 6.5 system is faster than of 6.1 - the problem is how many of those various additions are cooked in. If too many, or badly cooked ROM - as a whole it's slower - but if unnecessary things are removed it's a faster system. The RAM is more problematic - it needs more of it, but after removing some elements and reediting others you can get 25 to even 29 MB of free RAM on 6.5

WM6.5 vs 6
damikey said:
WM 6.5 looks great! but is it faster than 6.1? I'm currently using Schap's WM6.1 and looking forwarding to an OS upgrade if it provides better speed performance. In addition, which ROM will provide a minimum of 20mb program after load. Thank you for the input
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As far as i understand Schaps 4.31 is based on WM version 6 not 6.1 so damikey question should be restated. I havent tried 6.5, maybe when becomes official, so cant answer your question, but I have read in this forum that version 6 core is faster than 6.1... WM6.5 vs 6
HTC Tytn
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SPL: 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7)
ROM: Shamanix WM6 Ultimate v2 Final
RADIO: 1.48.00.10

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I have read in this forum that version 6 core is faster than 6.1... WM6.5 vs 6
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No! Absolutely not.
WM6.1 is the most fast and responsive ROM right now, while WM5 was the worst one. WM6 was way better than WM5, but it's slower and less stable than 6.1.
Wm6.5? It depends, as I said before... its core is faster than 6.1 - but UI is just bigger and more resources-hungry.

utak3r said:
No! Absolutely not.
WM6.1 is the most fast and responsive ROM right now, while WM5 was the worst one. WM6 was way better than WM5, but it's slower and less stable than 6.1.
Wm6.5? It depends, as I said before... its core is faster than 6.1 - but UI is just bigger and more resources-hungry.
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Do you think using that dll in dev and hacking forum we can increase the speed? maybe with that... we could edit all the icons in dlls and Theme to make it faster than the hell... but i cant figured out how to use it... cause we must to sacrifice a little megabytes of storage.

utak3r rigth...didnt know that, thanks. I have read months ago about unstability problems in 6.1 but maybe the threads were just outdated or google trick me into thinking that. I havent tried myself, just know rigth now about WM5 and 6. So I which a lite stripped down version of 6.5 even without Titanium if were possible just with honey like programs menu to make trials and see how it feels in day to day use and not only by benchmark results... something like that exists rigth now or is in development?
Maybe you or +Que PPC or other chef can do it !!!!!????? would be awesome
HTC Tytn
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SPL: 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7)
ROM: Shamanix WM6 Ultimate v2 Final
RADIO: 1.48.00.10

utak3r said:
No! Absolutely not.
WM6.1 is the most fast and responsive ROM right now, ...WM6 was way better than WM5, but it's slower and less stable than 6.1.
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Still with doubts I did a quick search and the thread wasnt that old. Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496318 some people disagree with the fact that 6.1 is faster. I saw the benchmarks for hermes (dont have the link rigth now) for different cooked ROMs and results were similar between WM6 and 6.1 with the same pagepool.
IMHO maybe as you say the 6.1 CORE could be faster (!?) but some other issues (like only 64mb RAM in Hermes) could make some people FEEL like its slower with their configurations and stick to WM6 or make a jump al the way to 6.5. Its just a thought. damikey only concern is performance and memory in his post, because he have Schaps which is a very stable ROM IMO, but stability, now that you mentioned it, would be another issue (not offtopic). I know you have lot of more experience than me and as I have the same doubt as damikey would be interesting to know about this a little more. I need my tytn as a phone so dont want to flash every week. Thanks again.
HTC Tytn
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SPL: 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7)
ROM: Shamanix WM6 Ultimate v2 Final
RADIO: 1.48.00.10