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Is the original WM6 for Artemis more responsive in general use than the WM5 version? I'm also interested if the cooked ROM's (Touch 4.02 for example) have any speed advantages when running TomTom. In my WM5 TomTom is quite slow. Can anyone comment on the performance of TomTom using different ROM's? Is there any visual difference?
About battery life, I've read a lot about some experiencing power drain but others getting even better battery performance with the same ROM. Is it even possible to say whether WM6 increased battery life vs WM5 or not? Please post your experiences, as I am trying to decide to upgrade or not to, because it is a small risk aswell.
in general: DUMP WM5 !
Advantages ( amongst others) of WM6:
- no data loss when out-off battery !!!!
- tomtom and other apps run more smoothly/quickly (subjectively)
The battery-drain for sure is a concerning matter, due to being based on gsm polling problems on certaain machines/radio versions!
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
totally agree and i suggest go forward to WM 6.1
WM5 is only history
thormdac said:
in general: DUMP WM5 !
Advantages ( amongst others) of WM6:
- no data loss when out-off battery !!!!
- tomtom and other apps run more smoothly/quickly (subjectively)
The battery-drain for sure is a concerning matter, due to being based on gsm polling problems on certaain machines/radio versions!
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
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wm5 is faster in my opinion that wm6 and wm6 totally kills your battery time which is a big nusience..
also wm6 seems more complicated with the simple phone functions....
I have tried some of the cooked rom's and have so many problem with the screen auto rolling when I don't want it to and sometimes I will click on "ok" and it doesn't seem to register for 3-4 seconds....
in general for phone and email use I am going back to wm5 to get back the battery time and general usability of the phone itself...
with wm5 I hardley ever ran out of battery time however with wm6 there has been a few occassions where I have not had a chance to charge the phone in one or two days and it has gone flat when I really needed it... simple things like this make the upgrade not worthwhile IMO, even if there are better features and nicer look in wm6..
Still confused what to do then with my xda orbit!
Just found this thread.
Mixed advice it would seem.
I've just bought an XDA ORBIT. It's still got Windows Mobile 5 and has TOMTOM 6 installed.
I still don't know whether I should UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 6.0 OR NOT?
Some say TomTom6 runs better on Windows 5, some disagree.
I also have copilot 6.0 discs which I could use instead. Anyone have a preference between Tomtom6 and Copilot 6 on the xda orbit?
Thanks in advance,
Matt.
I strongly reccomend skipping WM6.0 and going streight to WM6.1, and go for the "Touch 4.01" rom. I'd personally reccomend the vanilla one, as it's the fastest, and most of the installed stuff will be useless on the bulkier roms.
TomTom 6 runs very well on WM6.1, better than I remember on 5.0, however, i'm using a much later version I got from an unmentionable place. Takes only 3-4s to load from the today screen.
As for the data loss with WM5, that's actually a bit of a fib. Non-volatile storage was introduced with WM5, and enhanced for WM6. It was WM2003/SE when there were issues with volatile storage, and the in-ability to actually turn a device off.
Hope this helps
thormdac said:
in general: DUMP WM5 !
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
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Latest official o2 wm6 rom is shipping with radio version 3.06.90, which I found very good.
Wish there was stand alone install for this one, so I could use it with touch 4.02.
Hello because the low RAM on trinity im looking for the simpliest ROM (Only basic apps) with manila2D.
I tried a lot of roms and the fastest was cme 0.9 BETA which has a lot of issues.
Can someone help me?
I would definutly recommend this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472178
its Team CV93+Oggi (CE OS 5.2.21014.1.6.0) Manila2D and there is a ultra-lite version, I have been using it for about a week (full ROM) and it is fast - stable and im sure the lite versions will be even faster.
Sorry I cant give more details
PDAViet TRINITY WM6.1 ROM V44 - Build 20748.1.4.0 (Manila2D) is mine tip, download and password is PhamQuang
Snake_A said:
Hello because the low RAM on trinity im looking for the simpliest ROM (Only basic apps) with manila2D.
I tried a lot of roms and the fastest was cme 0.9 BETA which has a lot of issues.
Can someone help me?
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Hi Snake_A.
The simplest Manila2D ROM (i.e. with the lowest number of potentially not needed add ons) that I have found is nosedive's latest:
[ROM][WWE][4/2/2009]n073e+i (CE OS 5.2.20769 build20769.1.4.5) [ONLINE]
It's faster than any others I have tried and has no issues (apart from psshut not letting you turn the device competely off). Bear in mind that speed on any Rom will depend on what you add after the flash. Reducing the number of Manila2D tabs (using m2Dc customiser) and switching off Manila2D during use of applications like TomTom and Internet Exploring does help.
Chanvi's pre-Iolite/Footprint ones are excellent too, but have more add ons (which you may not need, depending on personal preference). (Chanvi leads the way in Iolite/Footprint experimentation, but so far they seem to use more memory than previous versions.)
Both the above cooks are very active in the Trinity forum and always answer any problems. There are other great cooks who are also opening doors with their work and well worth testing their Roms, but if you are after simplicity and stability, I recommend nosedive or chanvi at the moment.
Hope this helps you and others,
Mattster.
I'm starting to miss Manila2D... I hope some updated Manila2D Roms come out soon.
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I'm starting to miss Manila2D... I hope some updated Manila2D Roms come out soon.
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try cooking the latest 6.5 build from chanvi's kitchen. it has the jade 1.2 M2D OEM!
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try cooking the latest 6.5 build from chanvi's kitchen. it has the jade 1.2 M2D OEM!
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Hi Philocritus.
I have been thinking of trying that, but to tell you the truth I don't like the iconic start menu in Windows 6.5. I prefer the list format start menu of 6.1.
I have just flashed the 21042 6.1 full manila ROM from chanvi's Kitchen. Do you know how it compares to the latest 6.5 build?
Mattster.
Mattster_spv said:
Hi Philocritus.
I have been thinking of trying that, but to tell you the truth I don't like the iconic start menu in Windows 6.5. I prefer the list format start menu of 6.1.
I have just flashed the 21042 6.1 full manila ROM from chanvi's Kitchen. Do you know how it compares to the latest 6.5 build?
Mattster.
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Mattster my friend, welcome back..
I have tried both 6.1 and 6.5 in various options. Summary:
1. 6.1 or 6.5 makes no difference as far as speed. It is all CPU/clocking dependent. they both slow down the same with heavy graphics, and suffer the same behavior. It's all in the hardware..
2. Size of page pool makes a difference for speeds. But it is a trade off between free RAM and speed. It is depending what your needs are. again- 6.1 or 6.5 is not making a difference . Some claim 6.5 is slower, but really in order to say that one needs to compare apples with apples. two different ROMS are , by definition, apple and orange.
3. Try WM6.5 by Chanvi. Give it 72 hours before you give up on the bee hive you hate. After you get used to it, and to the slick movement of it, you will have hard time going back to the dull WM6.1 menus.
4. You will have to forget about 'dirty Harry' pose with the stylus in the mouth. Menus are SOOOOOOO finger friendly my stylus is rusting in its place inside the phone. No WM6.1 has this kind of GUI. Not even if artificially trying to add finger friendly menus. Even the X button on the upper right is thumb friendly !
5. Enjoy both worlds. Home2 now has an applet and theme that looks exactly as M2D. I have it installed on home2 and it's fun, not mentioning I go from analog to digital clock on the home tab in a flick of a finger. If you like the idea of home2 than install WM6.5 IE6Ultralite cause you really don't need CHome or M2D in the ROM. You will be surprised to get 28M free RAM and 79M free storage that way, and a phone faster than ever..
bigE
BigE said:
...You will have to forget about 'dirty Harry' pose with the stylus in the mouth. Menus are SOOOOOOO finger friendly my stylus is rusting in its place inside the phone. No WM6.1 has this kind of GUI. Not even if artificially trying to add finger friendly menus. Even the X button on the upper right is thumb friendly !
Enjoy both worlds. Home2 now has an applet and theme that looks exactly as M2D. I have it installed on home2 and it's fun, not mentioning I go from analog to digital clock on the home tab in a flick of a finger. If you like the idea of home2 than install WM6.5 IE6Ultralite cause you really don't need CHome or M2D in the ROM. You will be surprised to get 28M free RAM and 79M free storage that way, and a phone faster than ever..
bigE
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Hi bigE.
Thanks for the feedback. Most informative as always, and much appreciated. Funny you should mention the "Dirty Harry" look. I am somewhat famous for it in the office, and I tend to chew on my stylus continually...
On holiday, I had Manila2d and spb shell both turned off, and as a result I now find it irritatingly slow going back to them! I'll follow your suggestion this weekend: home2 with WM6.5 IE6Ultralite.
Is it worth me trying to cook home2 (it's freeware, no?) into the ROM using Chanvi's kitchen? Maybe you've done it already?
Mattster.
Best ROM that I ever have tested (and I have tested a lot of them) is:
[ROM][WWE] Windows Mobile 6.1 5.2.20270.1.3.1 Ver. 0.4.7.5 (Updated: 2009.04.04) by osavioro
Memory foot print with Home, Messages, E-mail, Settings and Programs tabs enabled in Manila2D:
Storage:
Total: 43.67MB
In Use: 23.67MB
Free: 20.00 MB
Program:
Total: 48.68MB
In Use: 29.56MB
Free: 19.12MB
iGO8 works like a charm. Fast with lot of usefull applications. Dont forget to install Manila customizer so you can disable unwanted tabs and save some memory.
No problems at all.
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Hi bigE.
Is it worth me trying to cook home2 (it's freeware, no?) into the ROM using Chanvi's kitchen? Maybe you've done it already?
Mattster.
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Worth trying, if you know how.. I didn't. One comment though- there is a non official release of the home2 free (you need to do some reading) where Joel made the home2.exe file use storage memory to dump graphics files. that made home2 work in 90% speed it was before, but free RAM is 4-5M bigger. If you think of cooking home2 I would like to know how you do it.. I have no clue how to take a cab and add it into the kitchen..
bigE
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Worth trying, if you know how.. I didn't. One comment though- there is a non official release of the home2 free (you need to do some reading) where Joel made the home2.exe file use storage memory to dump graphics files. that made home2 work in 90% speed it was before, but free RAM is 4-5M bigger. If you think of cooking home2 I would like to know how you do it.. I have no clue how to take a cab and add it into the kitchen..
bigE
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I gave up on home2 since it sucked the battery dry in one day! plus it was a very memory hungry app... maybe just maybeeeee i'll return to it when that exe is stable.
miss home1 btw... 1.2 was in my opinion on of the best UI around, and still is my favorite behind m2d
Hi,
I found this new rom from PDAVIET.
Here's the link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/203587319/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_46__B21169.rar
Password: PhamQuang
Who wants to try?
Beta 47 just posted...
If anyone is interested...
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
Same password as above.
Have you tried the rom yet?
Any chance of some more info and screen shots?
Cheers
Beta 47 initial review
Although i am not a big fan of M2D, and V47 is M2D rom, I am going to give it a try. I am running it for few minutes only, so i can't give any real feedback, besides the obvious. First- WM6.5 (M2D off) takes about 28M RAM, and since the page pool is set to 6M, there are only 48M RAM to begin with. This gives only 20M of free RAM. Kind of low than i want, but considering WM6.5 it was expected. With M2D on (as set as default) there are only 12M free RAM. That is BEFORE trying to have anything else, or changing tabs...
Phone wakes up with wrong time and date (not a big deal) , and finds the right network nice (I am in the US). One graphic bug is obvious- task manager and X button are too big, and cover the clock on the top right corner of the upper bar.
Free memory (applications) after installation (nothing added) is 48.22M total, of which 4.74M are taken. Pretty low, considering other roms with 70M. I guess M2D and the new WM are bigger.
I have changed page pool to 4M, gaining extra 2M RAM, and it seems to be stable and fast enough for my needs. 51M RAM, of which 18.55M free with M2D on, and 20M RAM.
The next step I took was trying to sync time using the tool called 'Synchro time'. As soon as I did, a pop-up message told me the rom is a 7 day trial, and right after that I have a 'screen of death' on my phone telling me: "that concludes the beta test of the software..."
I don't know if this is because of the time sync or not. I had to hard reset the phone and start all over, hoping it will not happen again that soon..
I let M2D run, not doing anything on the phone. After 15 minutes I was left with 12M of free RAM. I have installed SKTools, set shadow RAM cleaning, and optimized for maximum memory. Soft reset the phone and it starts with 18.46M free RAM with M2D, 20.51M without. Too low for my taste. using free-up RAM by SKTools gives 23M free if M2D is off.
As for the bee-hive shape of WM6.5 - I find it annoying. applications change location on you, and there is not logical sequence where they will be. I had to scroll 3 pages to find an application, and the scroll isn't smooth. Also- on pop-up windows - the OK button on the top right is missing, but pushing the corner where it suppose to be do close them up.
I am installing email accounts, and will let you know how it goes.. I don't think i will keep it, because it is a memory hog rom, although stable and performance is not too bad.
BigE
Test is over... after 1 hour
Ok folks, memory management of this rom is horrible. I don't know if it WM6.5, or the M2D, but for sure it is impossible to have only 8M RAM free after one hour of use. All i have done was connect to an exchange server, and have made nothing else. Kept the phone aside and looked at memory after an hour. Dropped from 18M to 8M and I think after enough time it would have crashed. it seems memory leaks.
I would be very afraid to leave home with this rom. first it 'expire'. Then it leaks memory, and third the WM6.5 is not my cup of tea at all. I hate the bee-hive and the way it moves on the phone. Only way to organize it is to create folders and move shortcuts around. WM6.5 has some nice tabs and scroll bars, but it does not justify the rest. IMHO it is a draw back from WM6.1 , even if 6.1 isn't perfect at least it works and I know how to work around the bugs. 6.5 is not for trinity, I am afraid...
Ah, there are also at least one shortcut (getting started) that does not work for me (error message trying to run).
Well, it is BETA for a reason, but knowing PDAViet, I would say he tried the impossible and was almost doing a good job. As for myself- i am back to FinixOver 3.7UL and pointui2 as plugin. Quick, 30M free RAM, nice animation and stable like I need. RAM do not leak, and phone is running smooth.
Was it a complete waste of time to try? No, I have learned some good lesson. Will be very suspicious with other WM6.5 roms..
BigE
Additional feedback
Agreeing with all BigE said above, I add:
1) No video call in dialer.
2) "getting started" app does not work.
3) The "titanium" today plug-in is having many of Manilla-2d functionality with (a little) less memory consumption.
4) Uniting advanced power and backlight setting to one screen is (at last) very well welcomed.
5)memory...memory...memory.
I concur with the above findings. It is unfortunately not very responsive. I guess the overhead is too much for our Trinity.
The ROM lags terribly. However, I still appreciate the effort made by PDAViet.
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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sounds great!!, loking forward for your www release
chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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I agree with u chanvi93.
I'm waiting 4 your next wwe release.
Thanx master.
WM6.5
Chanvi93,
Your roms are superb, no doubt, and you are right I am judging WM6.5 by one rom I tried and did not like. So let's hope what we have tried and failed isn't because of 6.5.
Can we hope for super lite WM6.5 rom ? I have tried yours, and have to admit, I liked them much but m2d isn't the right plug-in for me, especially after using pointui home2. So a naked WM6.5 rom WWE sound promising.
looking forward for your rom
BigE
chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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Thanks for that Chanvi, I was indeed getting depressed reading this thread! Looking forward to your 6.5 build. Have you decided if you are going to include footprints or not? From what I can see, Iolite / Footprint is asking a lot of our humble Trinities. Previous Manila version has better performance maybe?
Mattster.
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
ON 05/03/2009
ROM WM6.5 V47 CHO HTC TRINITY
BETA VERSION - CORE 21169
HTC Iolita
Manila2D
FIX , MMS
LINK :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
PASS :- PhamQuang
arnooo said:
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
ON 05/03/2009
ROM WM6.5 V47 CHO HTC TRINITY
BETA VERSION - CORE 21169
HTC Iolita
Manila2D
FIX , MMS
LINK :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
PASS :- PhamQuang
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Sorry but, sms are not working....
Mattster_spv said:
Thanks for that Chanvi, I was indeed getting depressed reading this thread! Looking forward to your 6.5 build. Have you decided if you are going to include footprints or not? From what I can see, Iolite / Footprint is asking a lot of our humble Trinities. Previous Manila version has better performance maybe?
Mattster.
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Hello
It's done in my threat , 2 versions : Full with Footprint components and Lite without .
Footprint is a great soft for great traveller as me , i use it daily in work , don't need Manila for it so it don't use more ram if you don't launch .
@BigE
Super lite in wm 6.5 is not very good because some short cut and little softs are necessary for use .
not for this thread but anyways
have just flashed Chanvi's 3/8 Wm6.5 lite rom. I will report my testing on his thread, as this one is for PDAViet rom.
See you there in few hours I guess.
BigE
someone can upload some screenshot???
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
Great Rom , but there is some memory leak, so phone must be often reboot ...
can run with P3600i from standart ROM???
yeh, copyr image file to your SD card and power+camera+reste you will get it flash. but memory arrangement is not that good.
this only from what i did.
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can run with P3600i from standart ROM???
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I want know which Rom is better in
Free Ram
Performence
Storage
compatible with software
Battery Drain
Make My Day! said:
I want know which Rom is better in
Free Ram
Performence
Storage
compatible with software
Battery Drain
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6.1 works great with me
6.1 is better in everything you wrote
6.1 will be better
from what I heard, 6.5 would be slower, memory hunger, cpu eater...
hello
WM6.1 more free RAM
WM6.5 more responsive
This is what I can say comparing the ROMs of CV93+Oggi.
Regards
Hi to all.
For me , not exist a rom ok for all.
WM 6.1 is ok for any function but is slow.
WM 6.5 is very fast , but again is not regulary ,
with many bugs,
I am waiting a rom very very beautifull ,
without bugs.
When ????
Bye .......
i found 6.1 is much faster and good ram Management, some of rom like i m using NiAx 40 which is very clean, i have tried couple of 6.5 rom but they are very slow and un stable, i would better stick with 6.1, may be 6.5 requires more ram then TRINITY have.
Hello all
WM 6.1 is in the end and WM 6.5 is in beginning of development .
6.5 is faster , nicer , smoother etc... 6.1 but use 4 or 5 MB of RAM more , my latest wm 6.1 in Ultra Lite has more than 31 MB of RAM and latest 6.5 has only 27 MB and can to be daily use .
Hope this synthese help you .
WM6.5 is BETA but..
Folks,
I think Chanvi gave the best answer so let me just repeat it and add:
1. WM6.1 is at the end of the road. True, there isn't yet a phone that comes with WM6.5 but soon it will start.
2. WM6.1 has an advantage regarding free RAM. However, with some clever tweaks (using kitchens) it is possible to create a ROM that will serve ANY application that runs on WM6.1 to run on WM6.5
3. WM6.5 has more than few annoying bugs of WM6.1 resolved. Original WM6.1 used to have some major issues, such as lock users out with 'wrong password' and other MS crap. It was all fixed in WM6.5
4. The GUI in WM6.5 is great. It takes time to get used to it, and I was between the ones complaining about the change it took from WM6.1 but the naked truth is when i tried to be back to WM6.1 it was bad experience for me.
5. Finger friendly- I hardly use the stylus in WM6.5 So much easier than WM6.1 was.
6. Stability- Sorry to 'disappoint' you, but at least Chanvi came up with a set of ROMs that are too good to be true. not one crash since April (two months) , great memory management (no leaks) and good battery life. It isn't all WM6.5, it is , I think, because Chanvi and Oggi are very talanted. Nevertheless- WM6.5 is , by far, superior to WM6.1
And I was one of the people thinking WM6.5 was too heavy for our trinity..
To get you an idea: I run 3 email accounts (one exchange) , my today plugin is home2 (heavy graphics) and I use iGO8 for GPS navigation, with high resolution and 3D (but no TTS).
And lastly- it makes the phone beautiful. Whenever someone shows me his iPHONE/Samsung/HTC Fuze/whatever with standard ROM, and I show him my cooked WM6.5 on a 3 years old phone (!) it is impressive... and runs as good as theirs, if not better. 3 years in phone years is 21 years in dog years.. LOL.. so much for phones, especially XDA ones.
well apart from the comments above I personally think I like 6.1 better.
Used chanvi 6.5 for 2 weeks, and I can't stand the slow response of the device, especially accessing my SMS (i store lots of em) and it takes more time to load and switch between applications (about 2 - 4 seconds more than when using 6.1).
I even flashed 6.5 onto my friend phone, as to try out the new and latest OS, and he too came back to me after a week, saying please save me and reflash back 6.1 as it's too slow for him.
We are business users hence accessing options like SMS, MMS, and web browser and switching back and fourth between applications should be fast. Unfortunately 6.5 does not provide that. It's fast, but just the today's interface and when clicking start, but when you actually load any application, it will take longer than 6.1 which we can't bare anymore..
In the end, my friend flashed trynnt ROM and I flashed another ROM which uses diamond interface runs on 6.1 and have no speed issues anymore.
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well apart from the comments above I personally think I like 6.1 better.
Used chanvi 6.5 for 2 weeks, and I can't stand the slow response of the device, especially accessing my SMS (i store lots of em) and it takes more time to load and switch between applications (about 2 - 4 seconds more than when using 6.1).
I even flashed 6.5 onto my friend phone, as to try out the new and latest OS, and he too came back to me after a week, saying please save me and reflash back 6.1 as it's too slow for him.
We are business users hence accessing options like SMS, MMS, and web browser and switching back and fourth between applications should be fast. Unfortunately 6.5 does not provide that. It's fast, but just the today's interface and when clicking start, but when you actually load any application, it will take longer than 6.1 which we can't bare anymore..
In the end, my friend flashed trynnt ROM and I flashed another ROM which uses diamond interface runs on 6.1 and have no speed issues anymore.
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Hi neato2u
I'm agree only on thing with you on IE (web browser) is not good in WM 6.5 if you use new IE8 with widgets , it's very slow and lag because our device have not enough free CPU (not ram) .
I use also in professional and business , i don't know exactly how many e mail i have (stored in sd card) but certainly more than 1 thousand with 3 account , Tomtom 7.910 daily use ,more than 2 hours phone (Voip included) by day et... , my rom is a Extra Ultra Full with Titanium + Manila + SPB Mobile as interface , i change interface when in job or wk or holidays . Never problem crash or other , only one thing is true , some app. like "Auto Hibernate" or "Activesync Killer" don't work in wm 6.5 so recently i find and use cleanRAM level3 with settings by run auto all 3 hours .
You can not compare HTCHome interface with Titanium or Manila , of course HTCHome is the lighter interface but older also , you can also install HTCHome in wm 6.5 , it will work better than in 6.1
Regards
Things you can do..
neato4u said:
well apart from the comments above I personally think I like 6.1 better.
Used chanvi 6.5 for 2 weeks, and I can't stand the slow response of the device, especially accessing my SMS (i store lots of em) and it takes more time to load and switch between applications (about 2 - 4 seconds more than when using 6.1).
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Some comments, as you did not mention some crucial info...
1. Have you tried IE6UltraLite ROM?
2. Do you support the phone with any tools like SKTOOLS for memory managment and shadow RAM services?
3. Ever tried opera MINI 4.2? (not opera mobile, don't confuse between the two). IE6 or IE8 are a disaster app, regardless if you use WM6.1 or WM6.5
I am, like you, using this XDA for business. I have no issues with either OS, provided I am taking good care of the installation of the above. Please keep in mind this phobe is not HTC but Dopod (were bought by HTC) and since WM5 there is not much of support for it by HTC. If you intend to keep using the trinity, even if with WM6.1, you can make it more efficient.
If you have installed the full blown IE8 version, yes, I agree with you it is not business oriented. But Chanvi has the lite just for the business side of it.
Besides, if you are really away from a computer and use your phone heavily, making it finger friendly is the main thing WM6.1 is missing. The GUI (and I mean the pull down menus) is what makes the difference for me. I was hesitating a lot with WM6.5 until Chanvi proved me step by step how WM6.5 can give me what i am looking for.
Other than that, the naked truth is a 64M RAM phone is a joke.
BigE
wm 6.1 is better u can do more
WM 6.5
Hi all
this is my first fost...sorry for my bad english.
After a lot of change now i'n usin PDA ROM WM6.5 V49.
It works very well...fast and stable. For me is the best one now.
bye
chanvi93 said:
Hello all
WM 6.1 is in the end and WM 6.5 is in beginning of development .
6.5 is faster , nicer , smoother etc... 6.1 but use 4 or 5 MB of RAM more , my latest wm 6.1 in Ultra Lite has more than 31 MB of RAM and latest 6.5 has only 27 MB and can to be daily use .
Hope this synthese help you .
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brother u r doing a good job but as u have said "WM 6.5 is in beginning of development" is right i have used ur lite 6.5 rom for couple of days and found is not stable as 6.1. (i m sorry if i have disappointed you)
i really appreciate your contribution to the forum and i will keep track of ur roms.
Thanks
regards
Please share your findings. How did you conclude its unstable?
Regards
sohil said:
brother u r doing a good job but as u have said "WM 6.5 is in beginning of development" is right i have used ur lite 6.5 rom for couple of days and found is not stable as 6.1. (i m sorry if i have disappointed you)
i really appreciate your contribution to the forum and i will keep track of ur roms.
Thanks
regards
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BigE said:
Folks,
I think Chanvi gave the best answer so let me just repeat it and add:
1. WM6.1 is at the end of the road. True, there isn't yet a phone that comes with WM6.5 but soon it will start.
2. WM6.1 has an advantage regarding free RAM. However, with some clever tweaks (using kitchens) it is possible to create a ROM that will serve ANY application that runs on WM6.1 to run on WM6.5
3. WM6.5 has more than few annoying bugs of WM6.1 resolved. Original WM6.1 used to have some major issues, such as lock users out with 'wrong password' and other MS crap. It was all fixed in WM6.5
4. The GUI in WM6.5 is great. It takes time to get used to it, and I was between the ones complaining about the change it took from WM6.1 but the naked truth is when i tried to be back to WM6.1 it was bad experience for me.
5. Finger friendly- I hardly use the stylus in WM6.5 So much easier than WM6.1 was.
6. Stability- Sorry to 'disappoint' you, but at least Chanvi came up with a set of ROMs that are too good to be true. not one crash since April (two months) , great memory management (no leaks) and good battery life. It isn't all WM6.5, it is , I think, because Chanvi and Oggi are very talanted. Nevertheless- WM6.5 is , by far, superior to WM6.1
And I was one of the people thinking WM6.5 was too heavy for our trinity..
To get you an idea: I run 3 email accounts (one exchange) , my today plugin is home2 (heavy graphics) and I use iGO8 for GPS navigation, with high resolution and 3D (but no TTS).
And lastly- it makes the phone beautiful. Whenever someone shows me his iPHONE/Samsung/HTC Fuze/whatever with standard ROM, and I show him my cooked WM6.5 on a 3 years old phone (!) it is impressive... and runs as good as theirs, if not better. 3 years in phone years is 21 years in dog years.. LOL.. so much for phones, especially XDA ones.
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I'm agree with almost everything you said, but I think those few MB of RAM consumption difference are critical. I installed CV93+Oggi WM 6.5 OS 21501 and since can't use iGO (I tried several versions, even the new amigo) and it always says "out of memory" after a few minutes in best case. So if you need any RAM hungry app 6.5 is not for you, in any other case it may be the best option.
My impressions are: battery works for much longer, about 10 more hours with low/normal use (no wifi or bt, just phone). Screen and phone perfomance are better, in apps it's the same than 6.1. And I didn't find any incompatible software.
If there was anyway to close CHome, like manilla, we could get a few more RAM.
juan_sck said:
I'm agree with almost everything you said, but I think those few MB of RAM consumption difference are critical. I installed CV93+Oggi WM 6.5 OS 21501 and since can't use iGO (I tried several versions, even the new amigo) and it always says "out of memory" after a few minutes in best case. So if you need any RAM hungry app 6.5 is not for you, in any other case it may be the best option.
My impressions are: battery works for much longer, about 10 more hours with low/normal use (no wifi or bt, just phone). Screen and phone perfomance are better, in apps it's the same than 6.1. And I didn't find any incompatible software.
If there was anyway to close CHome, like manilla, we could get a few more RAM.
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If you use Chanvi's latest WM 6.5 Kitchen, you can leave CHome and Manilla out completely! BigE is getting up to 29MB free in this way on one of his UltraLites. Without TTS, iGO8 breathes quite well on this.
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If you use Chanvi's latest WM 6.5 Kitchen, you can leave CHome and Manilla out completely! BigE is getting up to 29MB free in this way on one of his UltraLites. Without TTS, iGO8 breathes quite well on this.
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I certainly do.. my best results were with the 21232 IE6UltraLite by Chanvi. 27M free RAM and 78M free storage. I skinned out M2D and CHOME (I use home2) and I run SKTOOLS to optimize memory. Joel from Pointui has created a home2 file that will send graphics to the storage memory, and on top I am using mToday to switch all home pluggins off before i run iGO. I get 23-26M free RAM (23 if I do not soft reset, 26 if I do) and can run iGO in high resolution and buildings, while syncing with 3 email accounts, get text messages and calls. If you have more need than that, than trinity is not for you. It is a 4 years old device with miserable 64M RAM... we are kind of beating a dead horse here, and Chanvi is able to give it a nice push and keep it alive before Diamond2 is released (I mean 3G supported around the world, not just EU, hard SPL released for unlocking, and decent forum activity to support it with cooks and testing).
The thing is, I have to admit, in order to make the device 'behave' it takes some tweaking and knowlegde, and it is not for the lazy or faint heart user..
BigE
I really need a help for obtaining an excellent WM6.5.x ROM + <<sense 2.5>>
I've searched all WM6.5.x ROMs on XDA but i don't know which of them can be better for 'HTC TOUCH DAIMOND'
In fact ,i want "WM6.5.X CLEAN ROM+SENSE 2.5 ,STABLE,FAST AND WITH SETTING ITEM IN START MENU "
IF IT IS OFFICIAL ,IT WILL BE BETTER CERTAINLY​
THEREFORE,Please Help Me For Finding best ROM ,tanX
simple, not exist
LOL
Don't waste your time with 6.5 it is always going to be slow
Now I can tell you what a good all rounder rom is an that is the MEMO one.
I would say this as I'm helping with it but IMHO it's a keeper.
MEMO Rom
Yes, i too say that 6.5 is not for Diamond. So why u try that?
With all the options the MEMO ROM is the best one (Try it and feel it)
Regards
I'm using the latest energy rom + cookie home tab, and is fast,stable and has good graphics..there is only one problem the free ram is a bit (18-20 mb)
energy rom
Sure, energy roms, especially the latest, are bright, fast, BUT NOT LIGHT due, perhaps in a certain way to the huge amount of apps included. Things that most people does not use. I prefer using wm 6.5.5 rahter than 6.1, but today there is no light rom WITH SENSE (2.1 OR 2.5) AND WM 6.5.5. You can find a good titanium rom wm 6.5.5 (ralpfudsion ralGT1J) with plenty of free ram and stable
Hi,
First you need to understand the limitation of your equipment and specially for the ram. On my side I have tried several rom and I have normally a preference for rom 6.5.x due to my HD2. So I found a good compromised between 6.1 and 6.5.x it is a 6.5 rom (build 21907) back to basic. There is enough ram left and I can customized as I want. The other solution as stated above is to use a titanium version of 6.5.x or 6.5. I also recomand Ormet rom the 8.32 one.
Hope it will help you
I would suggest you to try out the Gen Y WWE ROM. Its a 6.1 with Sense 2.1 ROM. Pretty stable. It has a share of its own issues, but you may wanna try it out yourself. Its got a very good integration of Sense into it with a Start Menu that the Topaz (Diamond 2) shipped with.
The link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521941
Here you go. Try it. Its got some good features. If you are starting out new, I suggest take small steps. Rather than taking a leap into 6.5 or 6.5.x give this one a try.
What's your idea ?
tanX of all for your nice suggestions nonetheless it's better that i use WM6.1 for HTC touch diamond instead of WM6.5.X
I INSTALLED DONSALARI ROM(WM6.5) ,IT WAS NOT BAD... , however it has some features that i want
roughly OK : WM6.5.X+SENSE 2.5
amirhtc said:
tanX of all for your nice suggestions nonetheless it's better that i use WM6.1 for HTC touch diamond instead of WM6.5.X
I INSTALLED DONSALARI ROM(WM6.5) ,IT WAS NOT BAD... , however it has some features that i want
roughly OK : WM6.5.X+SENSE 2.5
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I personally had issues with that rom. Diamond does not truly perform too well with it. Had it for a few days then removed it. For instance my video stuttered horribly with it and my album never even began playing H.264 videos. I could only use WMP.
I personally think you should fall back on a tweaked 6.1 ROM with Sense 2.1 or Sense 2.5. Maybe you could search for Manila cab and install it.
try the Don Salari rom dude. i think it's the best official rom n' it's very light (clean basic). good luck!
you might want to try out Benko's 6.5.3 ROMs for Diamond.
Here's the link.
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606064
P.S. Even that has issues though.