Turning off the phone but leaving GPS on. Is it possible? - P3300, MDA Compact III Accessories

I was wondering is it possible to switch off the phone but leave gps on?
I am using Artemis as GPS on my motorcycle. It is annoying when phone starts ringing while you ride. Because of my annoying girlfriend I missed two exits of a motorway before she stoped ringing .... and well GPS told me that I missed them after she stopped. Artemis is in my pocket so I can not look at the screen. Also I am not mad to hold a bike with 1 hand at 80mph+ to look at screen or reject the call by pressing a button(not duable in gloves any how) .

Can't you just switch off the phone via the Comm Manager? I can't imagine that this will affect the GPS Reception, since they have to be two different aerials and devices?!

ruscik said:
I was wondering is it possible to switch off the phone but leave gps on?
I am using Artemis as GPS on my motorcycle. It is annoying when phone starts ringing while you ride. Because of my annoying girlfriend I missed two exits of a motorway before she stoped ringing .... and well GPS told me that I missed them after she stopped. Artemis is in my pocket so I can not look at the screen. Also I am not mad to hold a bike with 1 hand at 80mph+ to look at screen or reject the call by pressing a button(not duable in gloves any how) .
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why turn phone off, cause its getting to hot...
there are two ways:
1. u can block the phone number for a while if you dont want to talk..
2. u shedule the phone for 3 times ringing it will take the call automaticaly..

drclooney said:
why turn phone off, cause its getting to hot...
there are two ways:
1. u can block the phone number for a while if you dont want to talk..
2. u shedule the phone for 3 times ringing it will take the call automaticaly..
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I'm in the same situaiton, use the Orbit GPS in my pocket, eaphone running to my ear when on the motorbike. Verbal TomTom is just enough. I just turn off the phone function in the com manager to stop calls. Works fine.

I do switch off my phone from comm manager and my GPS stops working at the same time.
Maby it's something with my MDA . Well I'll keep on trying.

ruscik said:
I was wondering is it possible to switch off the phone but leave gps on?
I am using Artemis as GPS on my motorcycle. It is annoying when phone starts ringing while you ride. Because of my annoying girlfriend I missed two exits of a motorway before she stoped ringing .... and well GPS told me that I missed them after she stopped. Artemis is in my pocket so I can not look at the screen. Also I am not mad to hold a bike with 1 hand at 80mph+ to look at screen or reject the call by pressing a button(not duable in gloves any how) .
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Is there anyway to just shut off the phone's radio so that everything else
such as BlueTooth, WiFi, Ifrd still stays active? I know that with certain
OS ROMs such as Dutty's WM6 v2 you can control each item without
affecting the other. If you used "flight mode" I think that would kill your
BT connection assuming you're using a BT GPS.

As i said, when i simply switch off the Phone in Comm Manager, no other device is affected, Bluetooth works fine, as well as GPS Reception and TomTom.

I got fed up of fumbling around, pressing the screen by accident when it was in my pocket and just ordered a Ram Mount Aqua Box for the bike so that I can see TomTom and use the touch screen as well:
http://www.ram-mount-uk.com/ram-hol-aq2.htm
There's a base that bolts on to one of the clipons on the triple clamp, with the arm joining the base and box. Not cheap, but it lets you do you what you need to with the phone and keeps it dry.
If you are looking at them, don't be tempted to get the smaller box though - the artemis will fit inside, but the surround on the touchscreen membrane means that you can't get to all of the buttons or the edge of the screen. Works an absolute treat with a pair of Shure E2C earphones which block out the road noise. Only downside it's a bit fiddly getting the helmet on and off.
Been looking at the Interphone too, basically a bluetooth headset for your helmet which will also double as a wireless intercom, but I think the jury's still out

fishes234 said:
I got fed up of fumbling around, pressing the screen by accident when it was in my pocket and just ordered a Ram Mount Aqua Box for the bike so that I can see TomTom and use the touch screen as well:
http://www.ram-mount-uk.com/ram-hol-aq2.htm
There's a base that bolts on to one of the clipons on the triple clamp, with the arm joining the base and box. Not cheap, but it lets you do you what you need to with the phone and keeps it dry.
If you are looking at them, don't be tempted to get the smaller box though - the artemis will fit inside, but the surround on the touchscreen membrane means that you can't get to all of the buttons or the edge of the screen. Works an absolute treat with a pair of Shure E2C earphones which block out the road noise. Only downside it's a bit fiddly getting the helmet on and off.
Been looking at the Interphone too, basically a bluetooth headset for your helmet which will also double as a wireless intercom, but I think the jury's still out
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Just the thing i want... which braket did you get ?? Im looking for one to fit a Suzuki GSF600 Bandit
Cheers

TDIPower said:
Just the thing i want... which braket did you get ?? Im looking for one to fit a Suzuki GSF600 Bandit
Cheers
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I got the bracket that bolts on to the clip-on clamp:
http://www.ram-mount-uk.com/ram-b-309-1.htm
I've got a thundercat which has clip ons rather than handlebars. If you've got standard handlebars rather than clipons then I would say a u bolt is the type of clamp you want.

Hi all, with regards to the gps function being 'turned off' when in flight mode. It just seems to be a quirk with the latest version of TomTom.
Managed to get around it tho
If you choose the 'inbuilt gps' from tomtoms menu then, in flight mode tomtom wont use the gps....bit daft eh!
If you choose 'other cabled' gps from tomtoms menu (com4) then tomtom will use the gps function whether you are in flight mode or not..
Hope that helps
Mick

Related

Using a Blue Angel handsfree.

Here's the scenario.
I have my blueangel in my pocket.
It's off and the button lock is engaged so that it wont turn itself on accidentally. There's nothing I hate more than when it switches itself on in my pocket and goes berserk with random screen input.
My bluetooth headset is connected.
(I'm not even gonna start on how appaling the blue tooth on the blue angel is !!!!!, but that aside.....)
The phone rings and I press the answer buton on my headset to answer it.
The damn phone is now on in my pocket and the screen is active and receiving input during the call. Quite apart from anything else, there is a great big red END CALL button on the screen just waiting to be touched.
Assuming the call survives any problems, at the end of the call I have to get the phone out of my pocket to turn it off again because it wont turn itself off unless the activity timeout occurs which is not going to happen if the screen is being brused by anything in my pocket.
Is there some configuration or tool or utility or something that can detect when the phone is in handfree mode and disable screen input unless a certain button is pressed (like the green phone buton) and then switch the phone off again when the call is terminated ?
http://www.trancreative.com/nicestart.aspx
Have a look at this.
Im using it, and its the one that does the job best of them all out there, well in my opinion anyway
What about a case?
I had an alu one... no problem!
OK. I got NiceStart and had a play with it.
I think I have got it configured to work OK now.
Seems to solve most of the issues I raised.
I can't believe I had to get extra software to do that though.
I mean, it's not as if any of those probelms are either unforseeable or hard to solve.
It makes you wonder if the people who design these devices ever actually use them for real for any length of time.
The worst thing about it, is that i can buy a 1$ phone with a locking thats even better than this.
People have been screaming about this since the birth of WM, but M$ dont seem to be hearing this.
I have set Start->Settings->System->Button Lock-> Lock all ........power Button
Set a 4 digit password in NiceStart and mapped it to the 4 action buttons right under the screen.
Works great, but the screen will from time to time light up (M$ thing that it must do) to check the battery status. This cant be stopped in any way.

Position sensor or something?

Ok, it seems there is a position sensor in TyTN (correct me if I'm wrong). When my phone is in its case on my belt and it's turned on (usually by a call), it's rotated (as if the keyboard's open). It takes too long time for it to rotate, and I can't answer the call until it rotates back to normal. So my question is, can this sensor be turned off, or is there other thing, that makes the screen to rotate and eventually how can I solve the problem? Thanks in advance.
P.S. I'm useing Schap's ROM, but the problem existed in the official rom, and the Black rom, and the official WM5 rom
no position sensor that I know of and I have never had this problem :s
[email protected]™ said:
Ok, it seems there is a position sensor in TyTN (correct me if I'm wrong). When my phone is in its case on my belt and it's turned on (usually by a call), it's rotated (as if the keyboard's open). It takes too long time for it to rotate, and I can't answer the call until it rotates back to normal. So my question is, can this sensor be turned off, or is there other thing, that makes the screen to rotate and eventually how can I solve the problem? Thanks in advance.
P.S. I'm useing Schap's ROM, but the problem existed in the official rom, and the Black rom, and the official WM5 rom
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Yeah, there is a position sensor on the hermes. It's a magnetic sensor that detects whether the keyboard is open or not.
The problem is most likely your case. I've heard of issues like yours. The magnetic snap on the case fools the hermes into thinking the keyboard is open.
I don't believe that there is a fix to bypass the sensor, as it is hardware. But I may be wrong. If not then you might need to look at another case that uses velcro or something.
intrglctcrevfnk said:
Yeah, there is a position sensor on the hermes. It's a magnetic sensor that detects whether the keyboard is open or not.
The problem is most likely your case. I've heard of issues like yours. The magnetic snap on the case fools the hermes into thinking the keyboard is open.
I don't believe that there is a fix to bypass the sensor, as it is hardware. But I may be wrong. If not then you might need to look at another case that uses velcro or something.
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ah now that would make sense, i never use that stupid case that comes with it, they are really ugly! so that would explain why i never noticed it.
My wife came up with a great solution when I had this poblem (standard case causing phone to start in landscape) - turn the phone the other way round! Now I have the screen facing my belt and the phone is ALWAYS in portrait when I get it out.
Sounds silly, but try it - it works!
Yep, that's a sollution, but there is one other detail. There's no other position I can plug the earphones .
[email protected]™ said:
Yep, that's a sollution, but there is one other detail. There's no other position I can plug the earphones .
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Solution..... Bluetooth Headphones.
It appears to be a magnetic switch...
Your case must have a strong magnet on it, I can't get it to effect the switch if the phone is completely closed. Only if I have it partially open.
GldRush98 said:
It appears to be a magnetic switch...
Your case must have a strong magnet on it, I can't get it to effect the switch if the phone is completely closed. Only if I have it partially open.
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I have exactly the same problem. Also, my phone is NEVER put into standby before closing the keyboard.
I'm going to try storing it with the screen facing towards my belt.
I simply use Brando case and HTC BT S-100 headset. and never have a problem with phone starting in landscape.
http://www.boxwave.com/images_bw/products/thumbnails/dlc_htc_tytn_frtbck_lg.jpg
FINALLY... WHAT YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR
Originally posted from here
shlomki said:
I've come to notice that no one REALLY knew how to fully disable screen rotation on WM devices.
Some offered 3rd party apps to get the job done, some only knew how to disable automatic rotation, but when the device went into standby and woke up again - the screen rotated back. So that didnt really work.
So if you're as desperate as i was about screen rotation,
this is what you need to do:
1. Get dotfred's free taskmanager HERE, and run it.
2. Go to "Devices" tab, and look for "MIS1:" device (oem_misc.dll)
3. Long-Tap on it, and tap on "Stop"
4. Long-Tap on it again, and now choose "Set Manual"
5. Go to "Notifications" tab, and look for "Notifications\NamedEvents\VCPowerWakeupEvent"
6. Tap on it to make it selected
7. Disable it
(In dotfred's taskmanager, there should be a button for disabling it, but for some reason some devices couldn't see the button icons, although the buttons are still clickable. Under the notifications list there is an empty light-blue line - the buttons are there, eventough you can't see them.
The disable buttons is somewhere i the middle of that light-blue line, just tap the center until a message box popps up and asks if you'd like to disable this notification - Tap on yes.)​All those steps are a one time deal - they stick even after an SR.
This has been tested on htc universal and works great.
The screen will keep its orientation even if you flip your screen, take out your built in keyboard, or turn the device off and back on.
The only time your screen will revert back to the original orientation is when you soft reset your device.
Hope this helps
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Confused Stu said:
My wife came up with a great solution when I had this problem (standard case causing phone to start in landscape) - turn the phone the other way round! Now I have the screen facing my belt and the phone is ALWAYS in portrait when I get it out.
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It's also the way to receive less radiation in your body, because the GSM antenna is pointing away from your waist.
GldRush98 said:
It appears to be a magnetic switch...
Your case must have a strong magnet on it, I can't get it to effect the switch if the phone is completely closed. Only if I have it partially open.
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I can, and I used a Tesla-meter to measure them:
in-between the two magnets of the case and the lid, there are around 150 mT (Millitesla) which is pretty much!
for comparison:
a usual horseshoe magnet would have 1 mT, the magnetic field of the earth has about 0,05 mT!

A few BT Niggles

Hi Guys,
Ive got a few BT niggles which im sure are easy enough to get round when someone starts getting some custom roms out but i cant seem to find a way around them at the minute, issues are:
- When phone is in standby (aka screen off) and you try and make a call via bluetooth car kit it turns phone and on says please unlock before making a call, if i turn the screen on before making the call it goes through.
- When you disconnect from car kit aka turn the car off etc it comes up with a notification and says its been disconnected and to hold the phone to your ear, this doesnt go away until you press dismiss.
None of these problems are show stoppers by any means but they are annoying when you just want to get in / out the car and making calls etc, aka i cant just get in the car and make a call, i have to turn the screen on first, and i cant get out the car and carry on as ive got to press dismiss on the screen as it keeps the phone switched on (screen on) until you press dismiss so i could accidentally press buttons etc plus will wear battery down.
If anyones managed to work these problems out then please let me know!
Cheers
Jas
Voice Command V1.6
Hi Guys,
I also have a problem with bluetooth... well voice command.
I had the TYTN 2 with WM6.1 working perfectly with VC 1.6 and so naturally assumed that TP2 would be the same, sadly I was wrong :-(
It doesnt even try to use the software, bluetooth connects perfectly but I cannot initiate VC with the usual hardware button.
Does anyone have any ideas?
jaso2005 said:
Hi Guys,
Ive got a few BT niggles which im sure are easy enough to get round when someone starts getting some custom roms out but i cant seem to find a way around them at the minute, issues are:
- When phone is in standby (aka screen off) and you try and make a call via bluetooth car kit it turns phone and on says please unlock before making a call, if i turn the screen on before making the call it goes through.
- When you disconnect from car kit aka turn the car off etc it comes up with a notification and says its been disconnected and to hold the phone to your ear, this doesnt go away until you press dismiss.
None of these problems are show stoppers by any means but they are annoying when you just want to get in / out the car and making calls etc, aka i cant just get in the car and make a call, i have to turn the screen on first, and i cant get out the car and carry on as ive got to press dismiss on the screen as it keeps the phone switched on (screen on) until you press dismiss so i could accidentally press buttons etc plus will wear battery down.
If anyones managed to work these problems out then please let me know!
Cheers
Jas
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I had the same problems - in an Audi A6 for what it's worth. On my TP2 had both a PIN device lock and the option to show owners info when switched on.
Disabled both of these, and it now works perfectly in the car. Not quite sure which was causing the problem and may reinstate PIN followed by Show Owners Info to try to isolate.
TP2 Brilliant phone - have been using a TyTn2 for the last 18 months or so which I also thought was exceptional.
desperately seeking BT DUN
Hi all,
I am missing to be able to connect my TP2 via Bluetooth to my Nokia mobiles (N73, 5800) which do not provide PAN or NAP profiles but only DUN.
I need to use the SIM-card in the Nokia for the data-only connection whilst using the SIM-card in TP2 for phone-only connection.
I tried all the tricks in this and other forums. Unfortunately the most promising approach ("New installation file for Bluesoleil drivers! " - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251995) doesn't let me download the file.
Who got it to work? Who knows how to enable in the TP2?
thank you, Franky

*UPDATED TITLE* Several Issues with Touch Pro 2 **

Okay I think I found another bug in the HTC sms program which I discovered today and wanted to see if its just me or anyone else. The other is hoping someone has a fix for a signal problem, and a solution for the third. I have the HTC EU Official ROM WinMo 6.5 with sense 2.1, and the phone is HardSPL.
1) I noticed today a bug in the HTC SMS program (I know who hasnt), but this doesnt seem to fall under anything I've read so far. Here the problem, When you click the contact icon on the slider bar it brings you to the flip contacts, when you click the contacts picture you go into their "profile" when you click the second sms icon here you can txt back and forth, now what I noticed is if you txt thru there when someone responds to a txt, the tone set (be it the default, or custom) doesnt ring completely. It rings for like a 1/4 of a second. I noticed this as I was txting a friend. Has anyone else have this or encountered this? This is completely different then not being notified of an incoming txt, but runs along the same possible reason why we dont get one.
2) I use a bluetooth 85% of the time, I have one major issue. I saw a possible fix, but I dont remember where or what site, but I dont know if its for this issue either. I normally keep my phone on my belt clip on the right side and the bluetooth on the right ear, but if I decide to move the earpiece to my left ear, the signal seems to get weak, and I start hearing crackling until; I move the earpiece back, or move the phone to the same side. Is there a cab or registry edit that improves the signal strength for this? I have two bluetooths, sony erricson and a Jabra V250, both have the same symptom.
3) Everytime I get a call or make a call, when I am talking the proximity sensor kicks in, which is fine, but everytime I move the phone away from my ear, thescreen isnt at the dialpad but at the black notification screen. I understand that if there was a txt, missed call event then thats fine, but when none of these exist its annoying. Is this by design or is this just something thats going to annoy me to hell and back?
Bumpy Bumpy...
Anyone?
Also I found I think another bug, I dont know if its been mentioned, if it has sorry, but has anyone realized that when the phone is on and at standby and the screen goes black that the volume keys still adjust the volume? I normally keep my phone in a leather case on my belt, and notice that when I bend down the buttons if hit will adjust the volume up or down, I ran into this by accident while bending down all of a sudden my phone vibrated briefly checked the phone and saw the volume was all the way down, thought maybe the screen was up and thats why it happened after the second time I tested it and sure enough you can adjust the volume. I know for a fact the Fuze never did that. Anyone else have this issue?
AngelDeath said:
Bumpy Bumpy...
Anyone?
Also I found I think another bug, I dont know if its been mentioned, if it has sorry, but has anyone realized that when the phone is on and at standby and the screen goes black that the volume keys still adjust the volume? I normally keep my phone in a leather case on my belt, and notice that when I bend down the buttons if hit will adjust the volume up or down, I ran into this by accident while bending down all of a sudden my phone vibrated briefly checked the phone and saw the volume was all the way down, thought maybe the screen was up and thats why it happened after the second time I tested it and sure enough you can adjust the volume. I know for a fact the Fuze never did that. Anyone else have this issue?
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I don't know that this is related to your symptoms above, but several TP2 owners (myself included) have experienced the fact that this model seems to be particularly sensitive to cases with stronger magnets in the clasp...the magnets are just strong enough to trigger the magnetic switches in the phone that register when you slide open the keyboard, or remove the stylus. It drove me nuts for a while trying to figure out why my phone seemed to keep randomly turning itself on in the case, especially right when I was first sliding it in/out. I had thought it was because there were hardware buttons still active even when the screen was dark, but some thorough experimenting/testing proved the issue was due to the magnets....a conclusion that was confirmed by several other users once I actually bothered to go looking online for a solution (....after I'd spent hours figuring it out for myself lol). So, it might be the cause of your screen coming on and then the volume buttons are just the first ones that get pressed by your particular case and/or posture.
Unforutuately, I doubt there's any possible connection between that and your other issues...
I know there isnt any connection with the other issues, I just didnt want to make another post and have XDA shoot me for it.
Also I know about the magnet interference I read up on that long ago, but thats not my issue. I thought that was it, but I can do the same thing while holding the phone in my hands. So the magnet in the holder does not apply. I can have the home screen up, hit the power button to blackout the screen and then hold the volume down key and it will lower the volume cause by holding it down the phone will vibrate, when I turn the screen on, the volume is all the way down.
AngelDeath said:
1) I noticed today a bug in the HTC SMS program (I know who hasnt), but this doesnt seem to fall under anything I've read so far. Here the problem, When you click the contact icon on the slider bar it brings you to the flip contacts, when you click the contacts picture you go into their "profile" when you click the second sms icon here you can txt back and forth, now what I noticed is if you txt thru there when someone responds to a txt, the tone set (be it the default, or custom) doesnt ring completely. It rings for like a 1/4 of a second. I noticed this as I was txting a friend. Has anyone else have this or encountered this? This is completely different then not being notified of an incoming txt, but runs along the same possible reason why we dont get one.
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You get a shortened notification if the phone thinks you are looking at the screen when the message comes in. It would be nice if this could be turned off, but that is why.
The Pro2 isn't necessary 100% at fault with the Bluetooth problem. It can be a combination with your handsfree earpiece too.
Every Jabra unit I own has always exhibited this problem with every HTC phone I have. The first time I bought a Jabra I remember reading in the manual about their recommendation to keep the phone and earpiece on the same side of the body to avoid "interference" (referring to the body??). And if I'm listening to music through A2DP, and I move the phone to the other side of the body, the music cuts out too.
I also have an old Sony Ericsson HBH-660 and it doesn't have this problem if I wear it on the other side of the body, so it's appears both HTC phones and Jabras emit a weaker bluetooth signal.
Mesquire said:
The Pro2 isn't necessary 100% at fault with the Bluetooth problem. It can be a combination with your handsfree earpiece too.
Every Jabra unit I own has always exhibited this problem with every HTC phone I have. The first time I bought a Jabra I remember reading in the manual about their recommendation to keep the phone and earpiece on the same side of the body to avoid "interference" (referring to the body??). And if I'm listening to music through A2DP, and I move the phone to the other side of the body, the music cuts out too.
I also have an old Sony Ericsson HBH-660 and it doesn't have this problem if I wear it on the other side of the body, so it's appears both HTC phones and Jabras emit a weaker bluetooth signal.
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My Sony Erricson is a HBH-GV435 And both the Jabra and the Erricson exhibit this behavior. I dont know where I read it, but I think there is a registry edit about improving the signal, unless it was something else and I read wrong, was hoping someone knew what I was talking about.
Zylograth,
I wouldnt want it turned off, if anything it should ring normally. And I think that maybe in connection to the possibility of the SMS alerts not coming in when the screen is off. I think its related somehow. But do you know where this shortened tone noticification is located?
But now what about the other behaviors? Anyone else have them?
The noticification screen is really starting to bug me with I move the phone away from my ear.

Speaker Phone not turning on Automatically.

I'm using the official Tmobile US WM 6.5 Rom. The speaker phone is not automatically turning on when I put the phone face down during a call.
Is this happening to others? Is there a fix?
Go to the phone settings. There is an Advanced tab. Make sure there is a check at "Turn speaker on when device is placed face down during a call".
also make sure its on a level surface...the phone has to be perfectly level for "straight talk" to work...(which is dumb imho)...i tend to talk on the phone when im in bed and it doesnt work b/c the phone is very slightly tilted...if i put it on a table it works perfectly...
I just tried it in on my car's dash and it's now working. Does it work on a glass desk?
It should work on any hard flat surface.

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