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I've been using Black (and currently 3.01) but am looking at moving on. Who can give me advise on the pros and cons between Dymond and the LVSW?
If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
That is probably my biggest concern, and the reason I left the factory ROM. I'm kind of leaning the LVSW way but want to make sure I'm not passing up something good with Black Dymond. I"m starting to get tired repeatedly setting up my device with all my programs after I move to a new ROM.
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If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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please state what testing u did to justify your claims the dymond is unstable.
Good question Jasjamming. I have to say I am impressed with the number of user using your ROM, and the quality of the threads relating to your work. Can you gave me some advice, please, on what I would gain using your Black Dymond? Thanks...
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Good question Jasjamming. I have to say I am impressed with the number of user using your ROM, and the quality of the threads relating to your work. Can you gave me some advice, please, on what I would gain using your Black Dymond? Thanks...
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speed, stability and the latest RTM Rom (not a MS dogfood rom) available. please see the threads over at 4wm for your self.
Black Dymond has been beta, RC1 and RC2 tested by a user group. Any issues experienced will be isolated based on 3rd party applications. Try it and see for yourself.
If someone posts negative feedback by all means please state what went wrong etc over at 4wm so notes can be taken.
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...clip...In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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I am also interested to hear what kind of 'testing' you did.
Dymond is Actually Rock-Solid.
A quick point about "dogfood" since its been spun up with a somewhat bad connotation here.
M$ employees run the latest and greatest software from the development groups. They call it "eating their own dogfood". Its a term of endearment on the M$ campus. Every major M$ developer/presenter I spoke with at MEDC this year was running "dogfood" on their device. Generally, "dogfood" is a few point releases in advance of what gets sent to the masses.
Good or bad, buggy or not. You folks decide.
I'm happy to run "dogfood" on my TyTN. Nobody else has it. Case in point: check the Kaiser thread.
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If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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Could not agree more! vp3G's LVSW Re-Cooked version is the "Best Rom by far" very fast and very stable...
Black Dymond is the best Rom.....
I am using black 3.5 since yesterday and so far it has treated me well. I don't see any stability issues.
I have installed some spb programs like weather and some games and the ROM rocks.
I have been on black 2.5 before and that was stable as well. However dymond is noticeably much faster.
I have not tried any other ROMS besides these 2 so I cannot say which one I would favor over the other. I like black and sticking with for now.
I recently flashed the vp3G ROM after using Black 2.5 for about a month. Black 2.5 treated me very well, however I am happier with the vp3G (LSVW derivative). It is much faster and more polished than the Black 2.5 I was using(because it is newer, I suppose). I have been very excted about the 3.xx versions of Black but have yet to try them until I read through all the threads to see if it is a fit for me (3.0/3.1 didn't seem to be the right move). For now, vp3G/LSVW is an excellent ROM for me.
I'm running SPB Diary, MS VC 1.6, VOIP, IM+, SKTools, DinarSoft HandySwitcher, MOBITV, SettingSavior .94, and a bunch of other stuff. No problems AT ALL to report. Program Memory stays solid, device never freezes, and battery lasts the longest.
Hope this helps...
Black Dymond with C-Start : experiencing sync problem
Using Balck Dymond for 12h. Looks quite stable, not to mention the style. Thanks JJ
All functions work well (haven't tested 3G - China not deploying it yet ).
Most impressive is the performance of WiFi (compared to Black 3.01 and WM Hermes QS Edition) - power settings shoul be on "Best Performance", otherwise do not connects even putting the device next to BS
Found some conflict betwen C-Start and embodied input - haven't explored the issue yet.
Issue with synchronization: When the ROM was "virging" no problem synchronizing. Suspect installing C-Start, after the system runs for some time, there is some software conflict. Have followed all ActiveSync 4.5 troubleshooting advice, but looks like the issue is in the device. Next few days will try to install different Chinese characters software - hope it will work!
-- The same issue had with Black 3.1 + C-Start; the difference is that with Black 3.01 was able to etsablish connection between the PPC and the PC, was able to "browse" the PPC but no sync; with Dymond no connection at all
Hope will figure out some way arround with the Chinese characters
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Good or bad, buggy or not. You folks decide.
I'm happy to run "dogfood" on my TyTN. Nobody else has it.
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Heh... I think some folks are wishing this "dogfood" came from Menu Foods rather than M$.
Not to mention anyone who's been in IT for any length of time knows a "shipping" version doesn't necessarily equate to a "good" version (can we all say Windows ME?). C'mon, I know y'all didn't just fall off the turnip truck.
I think vp3g rom is by far the best. I ve been playing with this rom since it 1st came out and i must say its Very stable, very BIG storage, very responsive, and the tie in of the cingular settings with this rom adds close to a perfect rom! My only gripe with lsvw rom base is "esmertec java" Opera mini sucks with it! But otherwise a great rom!
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please state what testing u did to justify your claims the dymond is unstable.
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I already posted it on your site.
Out of the box, within 30 mins of use, your ROM was freezing up on me several times. I use no 3rd party applications, aside from Pimp My Black (which may have been the problem). I did not see the quirkiness in other ROMs that I saw in Dymond. I've reviewed many ROMs, including your original Black 2.x and 3.x series, and did not have the same polished experience I see in LVSW's base. I think your 2.5 ROM was the best to date in terms of reliability.
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Could not agree more! vp3G's LVSW Re-Cooked version is the "Best Rom by far" very fast and very stable...
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It's given me no hassles at all, aside from the WLAN problem when using WPA2 pre-shared key, which seems to be a problem in a few recent ROMs (Faria's being the exception here). It has the Cingular customization already done, and includes what I need and not what I don't need. I also like the inclusion of a working X-button. No additional CABs to install.
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I already posted it on your site.
Out of the box, within 30 mins of use, your ROM was freezing up on me several times. I use no 3rd party applications, aside from Pimp My Black (which may have been the problem). I did not see the quirkiness in other ROMs that I saw in Dymond. I've reviewed many ROMs, including your original Black 2.x and 3.x series, and did not have the same polished experience I see in LVSW's base. I think your 2.5 ROM was the best to date in terms of reliability.
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Well then,
Maybe you should have choose the word "Tried" rather saying something like 'in my "Testing" I found it to unstable.'
You tried it, you didn't actually do any 'testing.'
I was involved in the 'beta' and RC1, and still using it loaded full of apps, and there is NO instability at all.
cant say much about the others but...
I am running Dymond and no stability issues what s ever were detected unless:
You add on HTC X (doesn't matter what version - both Sucks) use alternatives like handyswitcher or others.
This is the ROM I had the longest uptime before SR!
I am running Pushmail (more than 200 email per day) with sms activity fairly high as well as phone calls that could probably fry my ... and still stability is not an issue.
only issue i am wondering about these days is what Radio Version is the best to work with...
I have actually found the same issues with every WM6 rom I have tried to date. I have loaded all of Kyphurs, a couple of LVSW's and Black 2.01 onwards.
I think everyone here knows that actual problems stem from third party apps and/or personal set up and the roms get blamed for the problems.
I also think we all know that a lot of people fall into the two main camps and will argue their rom is better than the other one.
I am on Dymond and havn't had a soft reset for the two days its been on my device - which for a cooked rom I reckon is pretty damn good - but I reckon from what I have read LVSW's latest is probably ok too...
You pays your money and you takes your choice --- oh except you dont pay any money - ITS FREE!
Hi Guys
Can anyone that is running Blackberry Connect 2.1 or 4.0 with WM6 post which ROM they are using and their experiences of BBs stability etc.
TIA
Daniel
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Hi Guys
Can anyone that is running Blackberry Connect 2.1 or 4.0 with WM6 post which ROM they are using and their experiences of BBs stability etc.
TIA
Daniel
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Iulian has it in the Core kitchen. I tried it and it seemed to work, but I don't have BB service to test it out.
I'm running the modified for bbconnect/goodlink BlackMajik with bbconnect 4.0.0.67. It's been working fine for the past 2 weeks or so.
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Hi Guys
Can anyone that is running Blackberry Connect 2.1 or 4.0 with WM6 post which ROM they are using and their experiences of BBs stability etc.
TIA
Daniel
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daniel..
bbc wont work on the latest 17944 builds... you need to use the 17745 WM6 build...
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I'm running the modified for bbconnect/goodlink BlackMajik with bbconnect 4.0.0.67. It's been working fine for the past 2 weeks or so.
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I too am running this and it seems to work pretty well. Does anyone know how or what it is going to take to get bbconnect running on the latest builds. I know something to do with hex editing or some such black magic! I'd really like to see someone make an idiot proof bb connect of vp3g's upcoming 3.0 release...
Me too.....
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I'm running the modified for bbconnect/goodlink BlackMajik with bbconnect 4.0.0.67. It's been working fine for the past 2 weeks or so.
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Works fine on my 8525. I synch email, appointments, and contacts. I'm not sure if it's the latest Black ROM's, the newer radios, or increased BB synchronization (at 3G), but my battery is barely lasting the day.
There are details on the universal forums about hacking the Hex values in order to get the version numbers to change.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294218
I have just loaded the official Dopod release 5.2.1437 (17944.0.3.1) but finding an changing the version numbers is at the edge of my understanding. I'm willing to give it a go but I am not keen to brick my jasjam.
Anyone want to provide some pointers?
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I'm not sure if it's the latest Black ROM's, the newer radios, or increased BB synchronization (at 3G), but my battery is barely lasting the day.
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all of the above :-( 8 - 10 hours max. disable 3G - start - settings - phone -gsm. will last for 24+ hours. BB have to stay connected 24x7. breaks all other connections unless u suspend bbc.
I can confirm that running BBC4.0 w WM5 and UMTS I only get about 36hrs from the battery. Less if I use the phone for calls alot.
But I would still appreciate anyone that could take the CustomRUU ROM and hack the version number back.
So would all the BBC users I suspect!
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I can confirm that running BBC4.0 w WM5 and UMTS I only get about 36hrs from the battery. Less if I use the phone for calls alot.
But I would still appreciate anyone that could take the CustomRUU ROM and hack the version number back.
So would all the BBC users I suspect!
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Ayup. Don't care about the battery life. Somewhere in those 36 hours I sleep and plug the phone in....
Elf's Latest ROM also has a Blackberry Connect version I have been using for the past few weeks with hardly any issues. Of course there is the need to suspend services to do more network related media things, as mentioned above, but I have been prompted to suspend Bb Services while using it and when done the service eventually restarts.
I've also found that using the Blackberry Browser works better than IE. It's one of the benefits of Bb Connect 4
Can you provide a link to 'Elf's latest ROM'. Sorry to sound n00bish but I am seeing ROMs posted under the various names but ppl refer to them via a wide and varied assortment of pseudonyms.
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you need to use the 17745 WM6 build...
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what about the good news you mentioned ? was that a temp black out / wrong device ? So should I hex the new Dopod/ATT to 5.2.1238 Build 17745.0.2.3 ? TIA
OK guys, here's my ten bobs worth.
Have tried BBC 4 on all of the recent black ROMS (that have the Hex edit hack) and whilst it works well, I also see the battery drain issue. Also noticed that as soon as I installed BBC4, the performance was s-l-o-w-e-r until I ran something (e.g. settings and then tabbed personal-systems-connection, etc.). Put another way, the Hermes lost it's responsiveness and only seemed to pick it up a little through use.
Just recently stuck BBC4 and then reverted back to 2 on vp3G's WM6 v3.0 ROM (BBC hacked) and the difference is massive. the responsiveness is back and I don't have the pain in the ar$e security settings. Maybe someone much more technical can shed some light on this - all I know is V4 is ****e and V2 flies
Hi all
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EDIT: 2/11/2007
I appear to have found a solution to the 'long time to come back out of standby' issue:
i had a bit of a brianwave when I was learning about pagepools and decided to investigate WHY it was only Schaps' rom that took such a noticeable time to come out of standby whereas other roms such as VP3G's and shamanix's were pretty quick.
Initially i put it down to rubbish handset.lol. but then decided no. that isnt the xda way!
so, i downloaded 4 different ROMs, VP3G's, Shamanix, AustinSync and of course Schaps'. I was determined to get Schaps' working as his rom is most suited to my needs!
so, upon opening each of the roms using the pagepool change tool, i realised Schap's had a 4mb PP whereas others had 6mb
so, i thought, lets see what happens if we change the pagepool, so i did. and it seems to have worked. it still takes a short time to come out (i mean not instantaneous like on the wizard) but a LOT less than the Schaps with 4mb PP.
so, i ask ye fellow users to try changing the pagepool.
the tool i found was on these very forums at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269&highlight=pagepool+change
and there it is!
so please, try it!
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I've been trying out schaps' various roms and i've realised it seems to take a while for the handset to come out of standby (i use the standby function a LOT) and sometimes you even have to press the power button twice!
is it just me that is experiencing this?
please dont get me wrong, ALL of schaps' roms that i have tried have been near enough perfect asides from this single issue. all the other roms i have tried despite coming out of standy instantaneously, they have other issues. issues which schaps dont have!
i just hope we can solve this slight issue!
w/thanks
duke.
Same here
I have ROM 3.54c from Schaps and I have the same problem... I find it VERY frustrating!!!
I was hoping that this would be fixed in version 4...
Good thread Duke_stix, I hope someone out there has the answer to our problem!
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3.54c from Schaps
I haven't really noticed it yet really but its something that I have experienced on all the roms I try on occasion.
i use 3.60a
and it has a 1second lag before it comes out of standby. havent tried any other rom
Try VP3G's latest.... you would not be disappointed...Schap codes great ROMs, however when they are done and out of bugs.. but till then if you use your phone daily like most people do, then testing is not for you.
im not testing!
if you read my first post, i LOVE schaps' roms! the ONLY issue that i have found is the 'wakeup' bug, otherwise more or less perfect. with other roms, including VP3G's there are other slight problems like some today plugins missing, namely the wireless one, which i know there are alternatives and it can be downloaded and installed but id prefer it in rom from beginning!
there has GOT to be a way to fix this! perhaps a registry setting
schaps, if your reading this, please help!
U may have better luck posting this on the original schaps v4.0 thread!
Not a rom specific thing...
It's a Hermes specific thing.
The Hermes has always had problems coming out of stand by. Every rom I've used has had these lags. And yeah, some times I have to press the power button twice as well.
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U may have better luck posting this on the original schaps v4.0 thread!
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i would and i have but in the last few hours ive had more responses concerning this issue than i have since posting in that thread a day or two ago!
Help wanted
This is a very important topic...
Because of this issue, my 8525 seems slower than the old 8125... Kind of annoying for a processor twice as fast...
Please... Anyone... Any clue????
This lag varies depending on what you have installed and whats running. When i boot my device in safe mode using spb pocket + the lag is basicly gone. So just free up some ram and put only the apps that need to be on device memory on the device memory, other non crucial apps should be put on starage device.
Not a memory issue
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This lag varies depending on what you have installed and whats running. When i boot my device in safe mode using spb pocket + the lag is basicly gone. So just free up some ram and put only the apps that need to be on device memory on the device memory, other non crucial apps should be put on starage device.
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I highly doubt that it is a memory issue since this happens on cold boots as well.
Moreover my Hermes currently has 22.8Mb free for storage and 19.7Mb for Program... Isn't this plenty?
ATI ImageON
Actually, isn't it what the ATI ImageON driver is supposed to fix?
Relating to all of this,, I wonder if the new Tytn 11 (Kaiser)with all its memory , experiences that same power/standby problem ? If the answer is yes, then either the problem (whatever it was) was solved, and we must learn what they have done differently in hardware or system. If they haven't fixed or improved immensely in the Kaiser, then someone out there (HTC) never have seen it as a major problem.. I personally have almost always had a lag, either on cooked or official.
on Hermes but not on Wizard
Actually, this problem is inherent to the Hermes - The wizard (slower processor and older model) is much faster to come out of stand-by. Someone at HTC must have messed up pretty bad - or ATI bribbed them nicely.
Hi,
I'm using the 3.60 full at the moment and didn't experience that, even I do use that version for a week and never recall have that issue as well, may be is physical unit related since some of you also discover the same symptoms.
Just sharing hope you don't mine.
Cheers,
Naru
TOPSIDE!solution has been found
its true
GldRush98 said:
Not a rom specific thing...
It's a Hermes specific thing.
The Hermes has always had problems coming out of stand by. Every rom I've used has had these lags. And yeah, some times I have to press the power button twice as well.
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Yes thats is true its not a rom specific thing. I use the dopod original rom and still it takes that long and some times i do need to press it twice before getting it awake...
Minimo guilty?
I tried the 6Mb pagepool trick on Schap's 4 ROM and the delay seemed to have shortened. However, after installing and uninstalling Minimo, I noticed a significant slow down of mt TyTn... It seems that the delay is back...
Am I the only one in this case?
Looking for a good fast stable ROM with the "In-call Numeric Keyboard Problem" Fixed
I don't know about others, but for me, that in-call numeric problem is such a big annoyance, that i would much prefer almost any other decent ROM that has fixed that problem. So far it has been slow work just finding them! I really wanted to give one of Schaps ROMs a go, but the only one i have found is his WM6 Pro 4.01...I can't believe that is his only one? I flashed Faria's R-32 with high hopes and was upset again that it wasn't cooked in there too...
A few I've seen that DO have it are VP3G's, I think that Kin0Kin's WM6.0 Final has the option, although i am not exactly sure if he sacrificed it for hotvoice..?
A couple more of the 6.1 ROMS seem to have it built in, I'm wondering is the stability of the 6.1's pretty good by now? I like it fast and stable...well i guess who doesn't
Thanks all for looking and any help finding good ROMS for my want.
what exactly you are finding
Can you explain your problem in detail and if possible with the image. I am getting curious about what you are asking for from all the ROM makers.
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Can you explain your problem in detail and if possible with the image. I am getting curious about what you are asking for from all the ROM makers.
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Few "messed up" (hard) keyboard key's when you are on a call by wattsja
The hard keyboard keys that are used to type also numeric values [Y(Z)UIHJKBNM.] always give you the number no matter of the status of the blu dot key. This makes it quite hard to do taking a note, replying to an email, or sending a SMS message while you are on call.
This issue is not solved/fixed yet (even in the official HTC WM6.0 WWE release)
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this is the problem and not fixed.
other link, same problem
the bug is quite old, but there is no easy way to fix it as you have to cook it in. see here the post of the guy who found the solution for the bug:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1562185&postcount=63
best is maybe to start to learn cooking for yourself...
I've considered learining to cook for myself, but i just don't know much about it. Any rough idea how many hours it might take someone learning from scratch to develop a good stable ROM incorporating all the necessary tweaks? I also just don't have as much faith that I'd do as good a job as some of the pros on here already when it's all said and done.
Any more new roms have the fix built in? I keep looking and not seeing many of these great roms that have it
Hello
Can anyone suggest which ROM/kitchen should I choose?
Currently I use Artemis Touch and it seems very good, but I would like to upgrade to 6.5.
I'm no afraid of kitchen and I'm able to make my own OEM packages, hovewer I need stability. At first I was thinking about Shady's ROM or kitchen, but it seems that while it have new versions often, it isn't stable at all (Microsoft fault, but it's fact). It has problems with GPS, Outlook, it haven't MMS builtin etc.
Can anyone recommend ROM or kitchen - may be not the newest one build, but as stable as possible.
any help, please?
Rom search
i'd like to know too.
I'm using a beta 6.5 that works very well but there must be something better out there.
Also, in our quest; can anyone recommend a pc based artemis emulator to try roms out before we flash. We could do a study and post results rating the best roms then.
Ste
there is no emulators, as I know. There is only simulator together with Microsoft's developers tools.
Careful with these
Hi All
I have tried lots of ROM and I found out that Dhee is the best. Theres always some problem or other with other ROM. Also the sound quality is vey fine in Dhee.
I am a student and I guess that we should be careful and analyse very well before flashing. Huh! Please guys we can't just brick such an expensive mobile else our folks will brick us in the process of testing. Therefore, I would be grateful to all those who post their views and experience here. Thanks in advance.
For me am sticking with wm6.1 as 6.5 has far too many bugs and issues and as am away quite often am not able to test a rom then revert back to something far more stable... Am looking forward to a good all round stable and fully working 6.5.. But till then 6.1 is for me.
Best rom I have flashed and used so far is the Touch 4.02 rom(vanilla) works excellently good amount of free program and storage ram.. Fairly speed(have used hackmaster to clock to 249mhz for bit more speed) every thing works perfectly inc sms and mms which are some of the main faults with wm6.5...
Can highly recommend it..
regards
Lohtse