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Yes, im comparing to the iphone again, but after years of using WM, im sick of the dreadful email client. Viewing/downloading attachments is a nightmare,, and as for HTML mail.. forget it! I hate that tap to scroll right / tap to enable Internet Pictures bollocks.
Is there a better email client or a hack to disable "tap to enable scroll right" at least? Especially considering how we have huge WVGA screens, the iphone client puts WM to shame.
You've got a point there! There must be a registry key somewhere that enables the scrolling to the right by default?
I've found on mine too that when I do swipe my finger to scroll left and right in emails it goes all the way to the right, what I mean is I can't read what's in the middle of the email without using the scroll bar.
Ya get me?
Try Flex Mail (v4 for the moment).
I would also like to see a iPhone kinda client for my Touch HD but nothing so far.
Hi,
I've tried FlexMail but it worked quite slow for me.
I put it on the SD card (this might have been a reason)
Cheers
did you use SD Tuneup?
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did you use SD Tuneup?
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what is this ?
FlexMail seems to be "too fat" for me.
Looking for something leaner
cheers
The worst thing is that none of them support imap for yahoo
I found ProfiMail 3.
The UI is far from perfect but you can apply rules to the incoming emails.
It worked with my Exchange via IMAP.
cheers
the problem broadens if you think that poutlook is also responsible of sms/mms too
i fear we'll have to wait for microsoft to release a decent messaging system, and god knows when it will be available... maybe with win7?
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...i fear we'll have to wait for microsoft to release a decent messaging system, and god knows when it will be available... maybe with win7?
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And if Microsoft reads this forum ...
please make the next e-mail client with full S/MIME support. Not just for Exchange. It's a shame not to be able to ecrypt mails with personal PKI certificates useing IMAP.
In general I even tried to find a decent JAVA (J2ME) based e-mail client but ... nothing so far
Agreed - e-mail client is pretty rubbish. I could live with it better if you could always enable pictures/right scrolling which are just a damned nuisance..
i'm sure MS reads this forum and finds it useless
and/or disregards hints just for principle
I've created a thread here in hopes that someone with the right know how can help out. the orginal thread can be found here....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345071
It as become a huge annoyace to continuesly click "download images" for my mail. I've been searching for a long time find a reg key some where that'll change this, but no look. in the ogirnal thread, there is mention that the samsung i8000 has the setting disabled by default. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4631247&postcount=29
can anyone lend a hand with this one?
I'm intrigued.. will take a gander.
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I'm intrigued.. will take a gander.
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200 points for this man!
This question was asked way back in June 07!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311030
It does give an explanation in the thread as to why you might not want to automatically download messages... basically you could suddenly find you are swamped with even more junk mails..
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This question was asked way back in June 07!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311030
It does give an explanation in the thread as to why you might not want to automatically download messages... basically you could suddenly find you are swamped with even more junk mails..
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i am not even sure how to make sense of what was said in that thread. I dont see how allowing automatic download for html images in an email will increase spam to the mail account. at this point in the game, winmo is the only platform that doesnt allow html rendering by default. if this were true, then woulding everyone else who doesnt use a windows mobile device be flooded with spam?
Umm... pretty sure that my GMAIL account handles the SPAM ok.
I'm still going to look into this a bit more, but I have been super busy today.
As i understand what is said, spam senders send messages to accounts generated at random hoping some of them get to a proper account. The pictures that are in the email are encoded with email address it is sent to eg. [email protected] so that if you download that image the server knows that is a valid email address and is noted.. and spread for everyone else to send you a message...
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As i understand what is said, spam senders send messages to accounts generated at random hoping some of them get to a proper account. The pictures that are in the email are encoded with email address it is sent to eg. [email protected] so that if you download that image the server knows that is a valid email address and is noted.. and spread for everyone else to send you a message...
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Yes... that's exactly correct....except it goes to a server not an email address... basically the concept is that it notifies the sender that the email is legit, and adds them to the list of good email addresses to sell
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Yes... that's exactly correct....except it goes to a server not an email address... basically the concept is that it notifies the sender that the email is legit, and adds them to the list of good email addresses to sell
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like l3it3r said, my spam filter does a great job. can't tell you the last time i've seen spam come through my inbox. thats a none issue over here.
me either. It is a very rare occasion when I get spam in either my corporate or personal email.
if thats a problem we could atleast try to have an option to "trust this sender" or something to automatically download html pics from trusted sources
have added this thread to my subscriptions and will watch with interest
This is something that I have found annoying for a long time now that I can't just download the images in my emails by default. I really expected it to be an easy fix and that I would find an answer straight away along the lines of "...change this one line of the registry to '0' ... " so I was really surprised to see it was a much more complicated issue.
Anyway thanks in advance to anyone with the tech knowhow who is looking into this for us all
maybe its possible to make some script or something that presses automaticly "download pictures" when email opened... i have no idea how or if its possible but maybe someone can...
For Outlook on desktop computer this is possible on registry hack. On mobile outlook this registry key is not persist...?!
http://email.about.com/od/outlookexpressreading/qt/et_inline_off.htm
Maybe is possible on other location?
I'm looking for a solution to this as well. I would like the option to trust certain senders, at least. I can't believe Microsoft didn't trust us enough to give us an option for this. I would also like to have scrolling permanently enabled.
If you add the sender to your contacts, it will automatically download the images. This is the only way I have ever known to make this work, it would be great if someone figured it out, but until then this is the only work around I know.
i would like to have this function as well.. is great that my email mostly need image downloaded together.. when i got slow connection, i would like it to download all n internet picture together while it is idle. then once i got time i can faster read it all without further waiting for downloading.
thumbs up for this feature. at least have an option so that user can tweak themselves. no nid to argue about anything but juz let user make the choice accordingly.
DEFINITELY need to have this automatically download internet pictures AND turn on scrolling..... what's the point of having such a great screen and touch capabilities when the stupid email can't figure out how to show you pictures and let you scroll right?
HUGE oversight on Microsoft's part there - email should look as nice and classy as Opera does on my TP2!!!
UP !!!
I am still looking over this. Its really annoying and kills me. What a waste?
Shocked I'm the first one looking for a solution to this problem. Search turned up nothing.
In my email app, it downloads only the attachments that are below 500kb. For any attachments that are over 500kb, I need to hit the little down arrow to download. it. I get the spinning clock and then the error "Unable to download this attachment". I've rebooted and no effect.
This is for a docx file. Another one is a pptx. I have Docs to Go and am able to open docx files that downloaded along with the email.
The kicker is that if I forward the email to my Gmail, it will say "fetching attachment" for awhile and then Docs TG will say it's not a valid Word 97-2008 file. But I can open it on my computer just fine.
Anyone?
I can't download this with Touchdown either. I can't be the only one with this problem. I was able to download large attachments via the same Exchange server on the Epic 4G and the Palm Pre.
Why do you suppose you are getting the "97-2000 file" .... ??? The answer is self explanitory man.....
Why do you think it works fine on your computer..... the answer is self explanitory......
The evo is not a windows phone.... if you cant download and/or open office 2010 docs do you find that really very surprising???
So lets start with the basics.....
What rom are you running?
What email app are you using.
Maybe tell whomever is sending office 2010 files to same them as 97-2000 file types ie: doc and ppt and xls
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It's not a Office 2010 file issue. I can open smaller docx, pptx and xlsx files just fine. Meanwhile, I have a XLS file in my inbox right now I can't open which is 3.7MB.
I'm running Stock Sense ROM. Well, almost, it's the deodexed one. I'm rooted.
I've tried the HTC Mail, the stock 2.2 mail, and Touchdown. All give me an error of some sort when downloading larger attachments.
Like I said, I had no problems downloading these large attachments on other phones. If I can't figure this out I'm going to have to return the phone because I receive large-ish attachments all the time for work and if I can't view them on my phone that is an absolute no go.
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Why do you suppose you are getting the "97-2000 file" .... ??? The answer is self explanitory man.....
Why do you think it works fine on your computer..... the answer is self explanitory......
The evo is not a windows phone.... if you cant download and/or open office 2010 docs do you find that really very surprising???
So lets start with the basics.....
What rom are you running?
What email app are you using.
Maybe tell whomever is sending office 2010 files to same them as 97-2000 file types ie: doc and ppt and xls
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Some more data points:
< 1MB PDF downloads OK
< 1MB docx downloads/views OK
1+ MB PDF does not download
1+ MB docx does not download
So it appears there is a 1MB threshold somewhere although I have no idea where.
And I'm not a huge fan of the iPhone but it also is able to download these attachments. I just tested them on my wife's phone.
Are you sure nothing has changed on ur exchange server recently ? Activesync clients can enforce restrictions specified by the server. You should check with ur xchange admin if u havent already.
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Are you sure nothing has changed on ur exchange server recently ? Activesync clients can enforce restrictions specified by the server. You should check with ur xchange admin if u havent already.
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I considered that, but like I said, I added my Exchange account to my wife's iPhone just last night and could download these attachments no problem.
Any ideas? This is infuriating and I'm not sure what to do. I'm about to try going into the store and adding my EAS account on one of the demo units to see if it does it there. I'm at a complete loss here.
I tested the Sprint Store demo unit with my account and had the same problem. I asked them about it and they told me it's not the first time they've heard of this problem, it is due to the way mail is handled in Android, and there is no fix :-( Even though I wasn't sure he knew what he was talking about, it's not a good sign.
Crap. Now what....
In the email app under settings. Make. Sure you select "entire mail" and and "always" under the attachment setting.
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In the email app under settings. Make. Sure you select "entire mail" and and "always" under the attachment setting.
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So I already have "entire mail" selected under mail size limit. Not sure what you're referring to on the "always" setting. I have a setting for "Include file attachment" and my options are Never, <25KB, <100KB and <500KB. I have <500KB selected.
Use Blackmoon Attachsave. It will let you save it, then view it after. I had the same problem and that solved it for me.
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Use Blackmoon Attachsave. It will let you save it, then view it after. I had the same problem and that solved it for me.
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Thanks for the idea. It seems that this is only for GMail. I did try installing it but it didn't work. Thanks anyways.
Okay, let's try this another way. Can ANYONE download attachments larger than 1MB using Exchange on the email app? Anyone at all?
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Okay, let's try this another way. Can ANYONE download attachments larger than 1MB using Exchange on the email app? Anyone at all?
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Bump, can anyone test this and prove/disprove that this is a platform problem and not device specific?
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Bump, can anyone test this and prove/disprove that this is a platform problem and not device specific?
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Hey man... I just downloaded 1.9MB zip file, using HTC Mail app(stock Froyo rooted), from my work exchange server.
Let me know if you would like to check anything else..
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Hey man... I just downloaded 1.9MB zip file, using HTC Mail app(stock Froyo rooted), from my work exchange server.
Let me know if you would like to check anything else..
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Thanks. So apparently this isn't completely widespread. Maybe it's a function of Android + my server? Because my server works fine with the iPhone and other people's servers work fine with the Evo.
Totally confused. 5 days to return the phone.
FYI, no fix. Contacted higher level technical support and they were absolutely no help.
I too have this problem and have been using Kaiten Mail from Android Marketplace. It downloads attachments fast even on 3G/HSDPA. But it became too buggy for me so now I'm back to the Gmail app.
Maybe try some email clients.
The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.
Well, well, well...I guess if Microsoft wasn't going to step in and make SkyDrive play nice on WP7 (access through browser doesn't count if you cannot sync), then someone had to. I like where Send To WP7 is going. It is quite impressive indeed.
It's just a shame that Microsoft, who probably has more data centres than 98% of all corporations in the world, and is in the best position to promote cloud services ( like Windows Live ) is still lagging behind.
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...
The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.
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If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...
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No APIs to let me do this, unfortunately.
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The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.
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I'm not so sure this is practical, you may as well just email a link, right? if you're talking about from the browser, using the bookmarklet for alternate phones is supported in all desktop browsers.
davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).
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davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).
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I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.
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I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.
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Thank you for directly conversing with us Dave. I agree getting documents to the phone is the ideal usage of this application. Keep up the good work!
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The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.
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just set it up. The push notifications are instant!!!
davux said:
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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Interesting stuff indeed. I for one, appreciate the work you are doing.
Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.
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Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.
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Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.
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Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.
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I've been trying out the desktop app with the local Wi-Fi method, and this seems to me the best way to get stuff to the phone. It's very quick too.
The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
Even though it's only an early preview, the dekstop app is great. I like the integration with Windows 7; I have it pinned to my taskbar. Might be useful to have a "Start with Windows" option in there. I'm sure you're aware of some of the bugs like the lack of proper icons in the jumplist Tasks and the filenaming issue that causes PDFs to be unreadable from WP7. To be expected with a preview.
From a UI point of view, I think the "Set Transfer Destination" option should not be in the jumplist and should be in the main config window instead. It's not a menu item you would need ever access to again after you've set your dropbox settings.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
Great stuff, getting great use out of this app so far, and its usefulness will explode when copy and paste arrives to WP7 devices. Thanks!
A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.
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The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
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Not likely, as I've been saying, the phone needs to be able to access a share via the web browser. As far as I know, Dropbox private folders won't do this. That's why I've included an option to mutate the name a bit, so someone can't just guess filenames in your public folder.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
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Note that the phone app has absolutely no support for the desktop app at this time, I will bring support for it in an update. Views are likely, I haven't decided what to do yet. I wouldn't expect that update for a couple of weeks though.
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A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.
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Thanks.
Send to WP7 Desktop
Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.
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I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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I can not download it in Germany
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Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.
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I actually have this same problem on my device. I opened the same-named notification channel on a dev build, then I uninstalled that build while it had the channel open - now neither the marketplace build nor new dev builds will open the channel.
I don't know how you got into this situation, but my point is that I don't really know what I can do to help--I'm under the assumption that all I can do to fix my device is to do a master reset (so I'm waiting for the NoDo update). I'm hoping that this bug is fixed in the next update, but I don't know if it's even officially reported.
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I can not download it in Germany
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I've selected all possible countries, which I think includes Germany. I don't think there is anything else I can do for you--maybe I could post a link to the XAP and you could sideload it? My only issue with this is that I'll then have to maintain a secondary distribution channel, and will need to build some kind of updater.
you should be able to post a zune link and it should allow him to access it that way. no need to sideload.
The Zune:// link has always been on my product page.
http://www.daveamenta.com/products/chrome-to-wp7/
Randomly poking around If This Then That (ifttt.com) I came across this neat little recipe. Basically, every day National Geographic puts out a pic of the day. This recipe automatically snags the picture (via RFF notification) and puts a copy in dropbox for me. When I remember, I goto my dropbox and move the pics over to my wallpaper directory on the phone. Now, I use an app called multipicture live wallpaper, which cycles my wallpapers from any directory I choose.
So, as long as I remember to copy the pics, I have new pictures for my background daily.
Enjoy!
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Thats awesome!
except since i'm new to ifttt - do you trust giving them full access to your dropbox account? I'm thinking of recreating this with my useless Box account...
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Thats awesome!
except since i'm new to ifttt - do you trust giving them full access to your dropbox account? I'm thinking of recreating this with my useless Box account...
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I am not sure what you are putting in your drop box, but I use it for pictures, a few work files, and some videos. So I guess I trust them, but I don't put anything there that's crazy or very close hold.