Yes, im comparing to the iphone again, but after years of using WM, im sick of the dreadful email client. Viewing/downloading attachments is a nightmare,, and as for HTML mail.. forget it! I hate that tap to scroll right / tap to enable Internet Pictures bollocks.
Is there a better email client or a hack to disable "tap to enable scroll right" at least? Especially considering how we have huge WVGA screens, the iphone client puts WM to shame.
You've got a point there! There must be a registry key somewhere that enables the scrolling to the right by default?
I've found on mine too that when I do swipe my finger to scroll left and right in emails it goes all the way to the right, what I mean is I can't read what's in the middle of the email without using the scroll bar.
Ya get me?
Try Flex Mail (v4 for the moment).
I would also like to see a iPhone kinda client for my Touch HD but nothing so far.
Hi,
I've tried FlexMail but it worked quite slow for me.
I put it on the SD card (this might have been a reason)
Cheers
did you use SD Tuneup?
skulk3r said:
did you use SD Tuneup?
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what is this ?
FlexMail seems to be "too fat" for me.
Looking for something leaner
cheers
The worst thing is that none of them support imap for yahoo
I found ProfiMail 3.
The UI is far from perfect but you can apply rules to the incoming emails.
It worked with my Exchange via IMAP.
cheers
the problem broadens if you think that poutlook is also responsible of sms/mms too
i fear we'll have to wait for microsoft to release a decent messaging system, and god knows when it will be available... maybe with win7?
crashDebug said:
...i fear we'll have to wait for microsoft to release a decent messaging system, and god knows when it will be available... maybe with win7?
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And if Microsoft reads this forum ...
please make the next e-mail client with full S/MIME support. Not just for Exchange. It's a shame not to be able to ecrypt mails with personal PKI certificates useing IMAP.
In general I even tried to find a decent JAVA (J2ME) based e-mail client but ... nothing so far
Agreed - e-mail client is pretty rubbish. I could live with it better if you could always enable pictures/right scrolling which are just a damned nuisance..
i'm sure MS reads this forum and finds it useless
and/or disregards hints just for principle
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I've created a thread here in hopes that someone with the right know how can help out. the orginal thread can be found here....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345071
It as become a huge annoyace to continuesly click "download images" for my mail. I've been searching for a long time find a reg key some where that'll change this, but no look. in the ogirnal thread, there is mention that the samsung i8000 has the setting disabled by default. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4631247&postcount=29
can anyone lend a hand with this one?
I'm intrigued.. will take a gander.
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200 points for this man!
This question was asked way back in June 07!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311030
It does give an explanation in the thread as to why you might not want to automatically download messages... basically you could suddenly find you are swamped with even more junk mails..
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This question was asked way back in June 07!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311030
It does give an explanation in the thread as to why you might not want to automatically download messages... basically you could suddenly find you are swamped with even more junk mails..
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i am not even sure how to make sense of what was said in that thread. I dont see how allowing automatic download for html images in an email will increase spam to the mail account. at this point in the game, winmo is the only platform that doesnt allow html rendering by default. if this were true, then woulding everyone else who doesnt use a windows mobile device be flooded with spam?
Umm... pretty sure that my GMAIL account handles the SPAM ok.
I'm still going to look into this a bit more, but I have been super busy today.
As i understand what is said, spam senders send messages to accounts generated at random hoping some of them get to a proper account. The pictures that are in the email are encoded with email address it is sent to eg. [email protected] so that if you download that image the server knows that is a valid email address and is noted.. and spread for everyone else to send you a message...
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As i understand what is said, spam senders send messages to accounts generated at random hoping some of them get to a proper account. The pictures that are in the email are encoded with email address it is sent to eg. [email protected] so that if you download that image the server knows that is a valid email address and is noted.. and spread for everyone else to send you a message...
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Yes... that's exactly correct....except it goes to a server not an email address... basically the concept is that it notifies the sender that the email is legit, and adds them to the list of good email addresses to sell
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Yes... that's exactly correct....except it goes to a server not an email address... basically the concept is that it notifies the sender that the email is legit, and adds them to the list of good email addresses to sell
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like l3it3r said, my spam filter does a great job. can't tell you the last time i've seen spam come through my inbox. thats a none issue over here.
me either. It is a very rare occasion when I get spam in either my corporate or personal email.
if thats a problem we could atleast try to have an option to "trust this sender" or something to automatically download html pics from trusted sources
have added this thread to my subscriptions and will watch with interest
This is something that I have found annoying for a long time now that I can't just download the images in my emails by default. I really expected it to be an easy fix and that I would find an answer straight away along the lines of "...change this one line of the registry to '0' ... " so I was really surprised to see it was a much more complicated issue.
Anyway thanks in advance to anyone with the tech knowhow who is looking into this for us all
maybe its possible to make some script or something that presses automaticly "download pictures" when email opened... i have no idea how or if its possible but maybe someone can...
For Outlook on desktop computer this is possible on registry hack. On mobile outlook this registry key is not persist...?!
http://email.about.com/od/outlookexpressreading/qt/et_inline_off.htm
Maybe is possible on other location?
I'm looking for a solution to this as well. I would like the option to trust certain senders, at least. I can't believe Microsoft didn't trust us enough to give us an option for this. I would also like to have scrolling permanently enabled.
If you add the sender to your contacts, it will automatically download the images. This is the only way I have ever known to make this work, it would be great if someone figured it out, but until then this is the only work around I know.
i would like to have this function as well.. is great that my email mostly need image downloaded together.. when i got slow connection, i would like it to download all n internet picture together while it is idle. then once i got time i can faster read it all without further waiting for downloading.
thumbs up for this feature. at least have an option so that user can tweak themselves. no nid to argue about anything but juz let user make the choice accordingly.
DEFINITELY need to have this automatically download internet pictures AND turn on scrolling..... what's the point of having such a great screen and touch capabilities when the stupid email can't figure out how to show you pictures and let you scroll right?
HUGE oversight on Microsoft's part there - email should look as nice and classy as Opera does on my TP2!!!
UP !!!
I am still looking over this. Its really annoying and kills me. What a waste?
Is this at all possible? I still want to have my contacts, etc updated but I feel the interface is somewhat primitive!
Replace with what?
An alternative ...
K9 Mail maybe or better ...
You can't "replace" it you just start using something else.
Are there even Amy advantages to using the gmail app?
Any suggestions on alternatives? K9 Any good?
Ah gmail will be the best gmail tool you will find on the android lol. You don't mean Email tool? Do you use Gmail??
Yeah I maent the GMail application (it refers to itself as "Google Mail"). I'll just have to bear with it then till they upgrade it . I am though over the moon with the device the text input ROCKS! I do have a list of applications I need suggestions on though ... I'm used to the following on Windows Phoen so I need an Android variation ...
G-Alarm - A Comprehensive alarm application
G-Profile - easily change my profiles from night, work, home, etc, this would be great as a widget
Task Facade - A general task manager that will show all my running applications and let me close/switch
Wake On Text/Email/etc - As it says ... and stay awake until message has been read!
Lock Without using Power button - easy ...
That's about it for now
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Is this at all possible? I still want to have my contacts, etc updated but I feel the interface is somewhat primitive!
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I know what you mean about the GMail app, if it's the same as in Android 1.6.. Ugly, flat and boring interface. Some customisation or nice animation wouldn't go amiss. I think the problem is that the Android team at Google don't really view the product UI as a whole, but instead as a load of separate modules that they can just chuck together. No time to make the GMail app look nicer for 2.1? No worries, just stick it out as it is. Media player still the worst/most basic there is? We'll worry about it another time, just stick it in, as is.
Depending on what you've come from, Android can seem amazing, or quite basic in it's vanilla form. I realise the intention is for manufacturers to add their own custom touches to the OS, like HTC have with Sense, and Motorola have with MOTOBlur. But really I think Google should be applying a bit more spit and polish to it's own core apps - the ones that come installed on all/most Android phones, and won't be messed with by handset manufacturers.
By this I mean GMail, Maps, Market, Browser, Gallery etc. Some of these are pretty good efforts (Browser), while others leave a lot to be desired compared to those found on other types of (non-Android) handsets.
I realise that they have to code for the lowest common denominator (low-end handsets) and not every handset can have a 1ghz Snapdragon in it, but I also feel that they are failing Android a little bit, by not ensuring the the latest hardware is taken advantage of in it's latest OS.
How hard would it be to tart up the GMail interface a little bit, while still keeping the same functionality? Not hard.
I know Android is about power and flexibility - don't like the Google way, then design or just install some other developers app instead. And that's great, but I really think there's something to be said for making sure your core experience is great, not just ok.
Disclaimer: I am basing this opinion on my experiences of Android 1.1, 1.5, 1.6 and 2.0 (2.0 admittedly is limited, since I do not own my own phone with Eclair yet, just flashed custom ROMs).
Feel free to flame away - I may flame myself when my Desire turns up by 1pm today, and I realise I'm tallking a load of BS when I'm presented the all singing, all dancing, beautifully animated new 2.1 apps from Google! But I doubt it...
BTW, don't get me wrong - I love Android, and I would not consider buying any other type of phone!
Why use the gmail application? I'm using the native email application and it works fine with gmail, lets me move all my mail to archive etc, receives it when its received (through push i think) and there is no reason why i would wantto use the local gmail application. In fact. It hasnt even been loaded up. lol
So I don't actually "have" to use th GMail application? I can just add the GMail account on Exchange/ActiveSync on the mail application? Sounds like a good idea! What are the disadvantages?
Any advice on the other applications I wanted?
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So I don't actually "have" to use th GMail application? I can just add the GMail account on Exchange/ActiveSync on the mail application? Sounds like a good idea! What are the disadvantages?
Any advice on the other applications I wanted?
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Go in the Gmail application, settings, disable notifications.
You've pretty much turned off the Gmail Applcation then. Start using the other mail application or download one off the marketl.
I will give you some suggestions for your apps when I have time.
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Go in the Gmail application, settings, disable notifications.
You've pretty much turned off the Gmail Applcation then. Start using the other mail application or download one off the marketl.
I will give you some suggestions for your apps when I have time.
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THANKS! I was kind of pissed when I notced you couldn't send bbc emails with GMail app ... madness ...
Is there a way to have a Gmail, Google Apps and Exchange all on the same device? Also does the mail app use IMAP idle I don't want to drain the battery by checking mail every minute ...
What uses more battery, gmail app or using HTC Mail to check for messages every half an hour?
Likely mail as GMail is push.
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THANKS! I was kind of pissed when I notced you couldn't send bbc emails with GMail app ... madness ...
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BBC emails? Do you mean BCC? If so, you can.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
BBC emails? Do you mean BCC? If so, you can.
Regards,
Dave
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Just noticed it under menu ...
My bad ...
Still, I have a list of applications that I need asap .
So far, I've not found anything that even comes close to Galarm in terms of quality. I'm using Gentle Alarm though, which is really good compared to most other alarm apps for android.
Check out a program called Locale. That's meant to be really good for profiles and even does it location based
EDIT: Don't use a task manager, it's not good for your phone! There's an article that was posted up on here about the way android works, you don't need to kill tasks and reboot, etc. like you did with WinMo.
jamiepyrite said:
EDIT: Don't use a task manager, it's not good for your phone! There's an article that was posted up on here about the way android works, you don't need to kill tasks and reboot, etc. like you did with WinMo.
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Fair does but how do I see the apps running in the background or what's an easy way to switch between apps?
I've heard of this "locale" before, seems to be very popular!
hold the Home button and it brings up a little task switcher, similar to Alt+Tab on a PC
Thank you! Goodbye, Advanced Task Killer!
Hey everyone, I'm new to Android and just looking to get situated with everything.
I use Gmail for my email and I've found the stock Gmail app to be ALMOST exactly what I need. Major flaws are zooming in and out and selecting text are impossible and it really annoys me.
Basically the features I want are:
Push or IMAP, I like the delivery speed of the Gmail App
Label support, or if folders are used then the ability to Star/Flag/COPY to folders instead of just moving
Zooming out for viewing large emails
It would be nice to have a unified inbox, but not a big deal for me
I'm pretty disappointed with the Gmail app missing some of these key usability features. Is the HTC mail program better in any way? Are there any other options that work well?
Thanks.
Pretty sure the GMail app has label support. You can star and label things as is since "folders" are just labels in GMail anyways. Push for GMail is a FroYo feature, afaik. Looking forward to that instead of having an active connection for my GMail.
Zooming out would be nice but on the Evo's screen it doesn't seem like it would be really needed unless you have people e-mailing you that don't know how to press the enter key every now and then. I haven't tried zooming in/out in the HTC e-mail app but I doubt it's present there. Seems like a low priority feature, imo.
The non-GMail e-mail program is pretty good. Supports POP, IMAP and Exchange ActiveSync. Unified Inbox, no. Personally, I dislike a unified inbox as I like to know who is sending me stuff where and with what address I should be replying with. I've yet to setup folders and such but I expect you can since folders are a pretty basic function for e-mail. I know the Exchange ActiveSync will sync folders, contacts, and calendar so you probably can.
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Pretty sure the GMail app has label support. You can star and label things as is since "folders" are just labels in GMail anyways. Push for GMail is a FroYo feature, afaik. Looking forward to that instead of having an active connection for my GMail.
Zooming out would be nice but on the Evo's screen it doesn't seem like it would be really needed unless you have people e-mailing you that don't know how to press the enter key every now and then. I haven't tried zooming in/out in the HTC e-mail app but I doubt it's present there. Seems like a low priority feature, imo.
The non-GMail e-mail program is pretty good. Supports POP, IMAP and Exchange ActiveSync. Unified Inbox, no. Personally, I dislike a unified inbox as I like to know who is sending me stuff where and with what address I should be replying with. I've yet to setup folders and such but I expect you can since folders are a pretty basic function for e-mail. I know the Exchange ActiveSync will sync folders, contacts, and calendar so you probably can.
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Yea, the Gmail app does have Labels, which are essentially folders.
The Gmail app is perfect IMHO except zooming and selecting text. The zooming is an issue for emails I get that are HTML formatted. Like Gamestop or Best Buy, etc... They usually have big headers and text with padding on the left. This makes the text all out of my view. The only way to read then is to turn my phone sideways and/or scroll left to right as I read... A little anoying. I noticed this issue in the HTC mail program too.
I also noticed today that I can't select text or copy it from emails in the Gmail application. I'm not sure if this is an issue in other clients as well or what.
not to thread jack by any means, but this seems relevant to my question, somewhat. does anyone know how to (when you have multiple accounts linked) have it send from a specific account or am i limited to the one i have synced with my phone?
thanks and i hope you get your problems resolved, i wish i could select text too, its a bit annoying that that feature isnt there.
Gmail app works perfectly for my purposes but you are right that it doesn't have zoom or the ability to cut and paste. If you come across an email where you need either of these two, just open up your browser and go to Gmail from there. Both of those functions work perfectly on the mobile gmail site.
Yea, that's what I've been doing. Just a little tedious considering they are pretty basic features. Not really dealbreakers for me though.
Might I suggest K-9 mail, it's and open source solution that has imap/pop support and integrates seamlessly.
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Might I suggest K-9 mail, it's and open source solution that has imap/pop support and integrates seamlessly.
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I'll try it. It can't hurt right.
I'll throw in a vote for k9. I use it to manage 3 emails, two IMAP emails through godaddy and my gmail. It works great for me.
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Yea, that's what I've been doing. Just a little tedious considering they are pretty basic features. Not really dealbreakers for me though.
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Oh I agree. I am all for decreasing keystrokes/screen presses. That's the reason I have Camcorder and Camera on my home screen. I should only need one but if I'm in a hurry to capture something, the fact that it takes an extra three screen presses to switch between video/still means that I might miss it.
I think it's quite likely that Gmail will be updated to include those basic features in the near future.
Anyone have any new information or found a fix for receiving HTML email in the stock HTC mail client? From what I understand Exchange ActiveSync 2007 works but not 2003. Is this correct? I've used TouchDown (which works with 2003) but I prefer the interface of the stock client.
Thanks for reading...
This is important to me.
I want to reply to emails that give the appearance of writing from my desk. Some people do question your efficiency if you often appear to be mobile.
luvit said:
This is important to me.
I want to reply to emails that give the appearance of writing from my desk. Some people do question your efficiency if you often appear to be mobile.
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It think that depends on who you interface with, I've typed:
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Sent via mobile phone
...before from my desktop to give a short answer as I look into something. But I think you should generally stick to the 5 sentences rule, or better yet 3 sentence rule.
Emails should be just a little more than a text mssg would be. Short, concise and convenient.
Touchdown has the option not to add your signature, just uncheck it...did you try that? Just sayin.
Hope you find a way, I'm on 2003 too.
Cheers
Actually, I practice that. The only thing that resembles the fact that I'm on a cellphone is that it's not html.
Is there a good alternative to the Gmail app? I need support for threaded view, and must be able to view messages when offline.
I have my personal Gmail account synced to the Gmail app, but I also want to see my company email (which uses Gmail as a back end) in an app. Don't want to mix business with private emails though.
At the moment I access company mail through the browser interface which isn't optimal.
Thanks!
You can try K-9 mail app
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You can try K-9 mail app
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Doesn't support threaded view.
U can use the default exchange mail app. Just setup as IMAP account.
Have tried a lot of different mail clients, but ended up using K9.
K9 do not have the most sexy GUI and I hate the icon even I know why devs keep on to it ... but honestly ... come on a head of a robot dog LOL
It have some smal bugs, but all together the best mail client I have tried until now.
I actually likes it so much that I contributed with a Danish translation.
BTW its open source and its possible to download latest version from http://code.google.com for free
Best mail client is Maildroid:
https://market.android.com/details?...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tYWlsZHJvaWQiXQ..
Better than K9 and does support threaded view.Just try it...
Mittaa said:
Have tried a lot of different mail clients, but ended up using K9.
K9 do not have the most sexy GUI and I hate the icon even I know why devs keep on to it ... but honestly ... come on a head of a robot dog LOL
It have some smal bugs, but all together the best mail client I have tried until now.
I actually likes it so much that I contributed with a Danish translation.
BTW its open source and its possible to download latest version from http://code.google.com for free
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Thanks, but again it doesn't support threaded view Though I understand there are some custom versions that do.
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Best mail client is Maildroid:
https://market.android.com/details?...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tYWlsZHJvaWQiXQ..
Better than K9 and does support threaded view.Just try it...
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Thanks, have tried it and it's not bad. The threaded view is a bit cumbersome though, it groups messages correctly, but you need to exit each message to view the next instead of just scrolling down. Will keep it though.
Wish I could duplicate the Gmail app actually, or even better port the Mail app from iOS.
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Thanks, but again it doesn't support threaded view Though I understand there are some custom versions that do.
Thanks, have tried it and it's not bad. The threaded view is a bit cumbersome though, it groups messages correctly, but you need to exit each message to view the next instead of just scrolling down. Will keep it though.
Wish I could duplicate the Gmail app actually, or even better port the Mail app from iOS.
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Why don you use default samsung email? It can be set as pop3 or imap. Can create multiple account on it.
Why don't you use Gmail?
If you have two Gmail accounts just add them both to your phone. Your mail won't mix, you'll just have to select the account you'll use in the upper left corner.
Or you can use the default Samsung app like anlimdy22 suggested.
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Why don you use default samsung email? It can be set as pop3 or imap. Can create multiple account on it.
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K9 offers some features that I need, and most important ... editing in Gmail and Samsung mail is pain. I use Swype Keyboard and it behaves odd when I use Gmail and Samsung mail.
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Why don you use default samsung email? It can be set as pop3 or imap. Can create multiple account on it.
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Honestly, couldn't get that to work - just forced closed time and time again, and when it did work it couldn't verify the settings (the very same ones that K-9, Maildroid and the Gmail app could). Better apps are usually available externally
bpivk said:
Why don't you use Gmail?
If you have two Gmail accounts just add them both to your phone. Your mail won't mix, you'll just have to select the account you'll use in the upper left corner.
Or you can use the default Samsung app like anlimdy22 suggested.
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You're right, I assumed that it would mix emails from both account but it actually works well. Can't say I think the system to switch between accounts is the smoothest possible, but usage-wise it's still the best experience I've found. Thanks.
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K9 offers some features that I need, and most important ... editing in Gmail and Samsung mail is pain. I use Swype Keyboard and it behaves odd when I use Gmail and Samsung mail.
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Yes, K-9 is powerful and feature-rich but I just prefer the Gmail app. The threaded view alone is worth it. Each to their own though!
Mittaa said:
K9 offers some features that I need, and most important ... editing in Gmail and Samsung mail is pain. I use Swype Keyboard and it behaves odd when I use Gmail and Samsung mail.
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Turn off word suggestion in Swype, it will help you to edit mail in default email app.
On the subject, the stock GMail app is the worst client I've ever seen. No multi touch is a PITA. The stock email app is good, still not the very best out there. Tried almost all the clients, Maildroid and all, yet to find one which suits my need, K9 was good, maybe I've to try it again.
Its really unbelievable that the client in iOS I used 3 years back was way better than all of these in Android!!!
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ithehappy said:
Turn off word suggestion in Swype, it will help you to edit mail in default email app.
On the subject, the stock GMail app is the worst client I've ever seen. No multi touch is a PITA. The stock email app is good, still not the very best out there. Tried almost all the clients, Maildroid and all, yet to find one which suits my need, K9 was good, maybe I've to try it again.
Its really unbelievable that the client in iOS I used 3 years back was way better than all of these in Android!!!
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Actually, I'd say the iOS Mail app is still better - where better, for me, means easier to use. Swipe-to-delete alone makes it a winner.
Yes, that's correct. Simplicity of using is way beyond everything.
Anyway started using K9 again, nice, but I couldn't get the idea of getting 'Message Sent' confirmation/notification! I guess it was present before or am I missing something...!
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