Hi upgraded to wm6 (T-mobile MDA compact III) and the battery life was very short. I had lost about 50% in4 hours. Anyone else experiencing this?
I have batteryStatus installed and noticed that my CPU never dropped below about 30% which I thought was weird.
Anyway was fiddling and unhid the extended ROM suddenly my CPU went back down to 1-4% when the device wasn't doing anything, not sure why this would be.
Is this a coincidence?
Has anyone noticed there CPU's running high when the device isn't really doing anything?
Maybe my battery will last a bit longer now the CPU isn't so active.
Cheers
Matt
I can confirm, that my battery life is down to about 50% of the time that I had on wm5...
Don't haver a program installed to see the cpu usage, but the battery time is definetly shorter...
i have the same problem with my XDA Orbit, cpu usage around 70-90 % battery life 1,5 days ( on WM5 3 days) hmm
Try this reg hack and see if your CPU drops, mine did - have no idea why????
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
Will test over weekend and see if the CPU running normally improves the battery life
what program you use to to see the cpu usage ??
macguffin said:
Try this reg hack and see if your CPU drops, mine did - have no idea why????
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
Will test over weekend and see if the CPU running normally improves the battery life
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this is working thx
I upgraded my P3300 to WM6 and batterylife seems OK, if not even better compared to what I had when WiFi is ON. Also using BatteryStatus.
Ich hatte das gleiche Problem, ich hab SPB Mobile Shell auf meinem Gerät und da ist auch ne Batterieanzeige dabei. Bei mir wars aber richtig krass, jede Minute ging das Ding 1 % runter! Mit BatteryStatus Ext. hab ich dann meine CPU Speed gesehen, den Reg Hack gemacht und gut wars. Vielen Dank!
i have edit, customized and write to XDA Orbit extrom, this is work perfect and i have not problem with battery !!
look this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296276
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Try this reg hack and see if your CPU drops, mine did - have no idea why????
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
Will test over weekend and see if the CPU running normally improves the battery life
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Where do you have this info from?
I just noticed that after doing this reg hack my CPU usage dropped from 30% to 1-3%. Nothing scientific just an observation.
However I think that perhaps something went wrong in my original flashing of the device.
After a complete rebuild (reflashing as a hard reset wasn't enough gave the same results) my CPU was running normally. If this device is anything like my old wizard it may take a few days for the battery life to settle down so the jury is out on that till at least a few more days.
I am encouraged to hear that other users are getting good battery life out of their phones.
Cheers
Works well!
for me it also seems to work very well. Thanks a lot for this very useful info!
Day one
I've just made the register change and the CPU average is 2% in ActSync connection on.
While using it, seems that the CPU recovory is improved.
Will continue to update this post.
Hi there !
I can't find out how to make this reg hack... Can someone explain to me how it's done.
thx
macguffin said:
Try this reg hack and see if your CPU drops, mine did - have no idea why????
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
Will test over weekend and see if the CPU running normally improves the battery life
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just to have it somewhere for all that do change this setting:
the settings where:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "Bootphase"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "MountHidden"=dword:00000001
pwvandeursen said:
just to have it somewhere for all that do change this setting:
the settings where:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "Bootphase"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1] "MountHidden"=dword:00000001
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the DWORD values are to be 0 or 1?
Now I am confused !!!
This thread was started a while ago after I upgraded to a very early version of WM6
Since using any of the more recent roms on this forum I haven't noticed any battery issues.
I'm currently using meschle's 2.1 and find the battery life to be excellent.
My advice to anyone experiencing problems is to give their phone a few days to settle down, as I think it takes a while for the smartphone to learn the battery capacity.
macguffin said:
This thread was started a while ago after I upgraded to a very early version of WM6
Since using any of the more recent roms on this forum I haven't noticed any battery issues.
I'm currently using meschle's 2.1 and find the battery life to be excellent.
My advice to anyone experiencing problems is to give their phone a few days to settle down, as I think it takes a while for the smartphone to learn the battery capacity.
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So as far as i understand... you suggest not to change registry values mentioned above. Am i right?
do you think 2.11 lite will have less drain?
ive got 2.1 full and definately notice extra drainage - not 50% but noticable
This registry hack was always based on a specific problem with an early ROM.
This problem was that the cpu was running constantly at about 30%. I think now it may have been related to a series of problems surrounding the fact that the extended ROM was missing.
All the problems surrounding this have been fixed and personally I haven't seen this happen with any current ROM I've tried.
Making this change wont do you any harm but might not make a difference.
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Hi, i wanted to know about Windows Mobile 6 and the battery life.
I mean what's the duration of a charge compared to WM5 ?
mine is 2 days or 3 days when i don't use it.
thanks !
nobody knows ?
nobody uses it ?
strange !?
please post your autonomy with WM5 and the one with WM6.
thanks !!!
About 3 days for me on LVSW 2.0.0.7.
Phone checking for emails every hour over GPRS, about 2 hours of WiFi a day and a bit of music listening.
Battery life
Hi,
I use mUn TE and battery life is similar to wm5... don`t see any significative changes
Hi,
Does over clocking the compact III give it more performance?
How does one overclock it in the first place?
i tried to search the artemis threads but could not find any information
Search for Battery Status Today Plugin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282006&highlight=artemis+overclock
thanks for the response and the link
how did i miss that one ??
No problem. I had the same question a few days ago so knew what to look for. (For the record I have my P3300 at 260 using the Battery Status Today plugin and it is stable for everything including TomTom. The difference in performance is quite noticable when multitasking.)
thanks for the reply,
what is the normal speed of the orbit/compact III/p3300?
will overclocking my device cause it harm in the long run?
xda_guy said:
thanks for the reply,
what is the normal speed of the orbit/compact III/p3300?
will overclocking my device cause it harm in the long run?
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Hi, not a very long term user, but my O2 Orbit runs fine at 273 with BatteryStatus. 289 seems not to be stable for me.
My P3300 runs max. at 273MHz. 286MHz makes device unstable, when it is full loaded.
xda_guy said:
thanks for the reply,
what is the normal speed of the orbit/compact III/p3300?
will overclocking my device cause it harm in the long run?
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The normal speed is 201, I believe. Overclocking creates more heat, takes more power, but seems to be stable when used in moderation (270ish max).
I had to take it off my phone because even overcloking to 210something caused me to not be able to stream video with WMP over wifi.
xda_guy said:
thanks for the reply,
what is the normal speed of the orbit/compact III/p3300?
will overclocking my device cause it harm in the long run?
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201 is the stock speed.
Overclocking could damage your device, especially if you push the edges of the chip's ability. Further continual over clocking might lessen the lifespan of the device.
That said there seem to be a good number of people overclocking to 250-260 without any obvious adverse effects. It may cause harm but for the most part seems safe as long as done in moderation. No one can say for certain though, it is a calculated risk.
Well BatteryStatus is your big friend here. The beta version (1.04) has an option called cpu scaler. I use it all the time. It works like this: you tell the program what you want to be the lowest cpu speed (for example 100Mhz) and you tell give in what the highest clockrate should be (for example 260Mhz). Depending on the load on you device BatteryStatus scales the clockspeed down or up. So when needed it gives you the extra power, and when not needed it will slow the device down, saving extra power and also saving the life of the processor.
I personally use the speeds mentioned above. But, when the speed is scaled down to 100Mhz the screen starts flickering a bit. If I were you I would not go down the 100Mhz.
Overclocking
I’ve Overclocked my XDA Orbit (O2) using Omapclock + OmapClockPlus successfully running at 264 speed anything above that doesn’t work on my phone, Reporting all programs running fine including Camera.
Dead Artemis...
JanetPanic said:
201 is the stock speed.
Overclocking could damage your device, especially if you push the edges of the chip's ability. Further continual over clocking might lessen the lifespan of the device.
That said there seem to be a good number of people overclocking to 250-260 without any obvious adverse effects. It may cause harm but for the most part seems safe as long as done in moderation. No one can say for certain though, it is a calculated risk.
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Hi folks,
today my artemis is died.....
He only shows the start screen (T-Mobile Logo) and won´t to da any more... useing bootloader mode an flash the rom back to wm5 (WM6 was before) is successful but then is the same, only starting logo and nothing more.... (he fews me this for more than 5 hrs now....)
I used Battery Status with @ 260 MHZ...
Maybe this was the problem...
Regards,
Andy
mine's on constant 260 with xcpuscalar, no side effects, been like that for ages.
I just realized that my battery life kinda sucks. I'm down to one day with moderate use.
Had a full charge about 7am, brightness is one from lowest setting, used Live search for about 10min at lunch and IE at the same time, listened to the radio for about an hour, made 3 phone calls for a total of about 25min worth of talk time - 2 of which were using BT (only had BT on when I was in the car). I'm home now and I'm at 33%.
Maybe it was the radio. Other than that, the phones been sitting for most of the day. How about others?
What Radio version are you using
Hi,
What is the Radio version you are using it depends mainly on them some versions it drain the battery I've tried a couple of days a new Radio version 1.54 it is a lot better and I found the battery can stay for about two days average use compaired to the previous Radio version, I have a TyTn HTC is going ok with this settings.
skhorchid said:
Hi,
What is the Radio version you are using it depends mainly on them some versions it drain the battery I've tried a couple of days a new Radio version 1.54 it is a lot better and I found the battery can stay for about two days average use compaired to the previous Radio version, I have a TyTn HTC is going ok with this settings.
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Radio version? My phone shows 02.67.90 This is from Mechle's 02 Prem ROM. I assumed this was the latest.
Latest Artemis Radio Rom
shawndh said:
Radio version? My phone shows 02.67.90 This is from Mechle's 02 Prem ROM. I assumed this was the latest.
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Latest Radio ROM for Artemis is 2.98.90 and should bring you some improvement with batterylife...
Thanx for the link. I missed that post. I guess I just run USPL first, then this? My last ROM upgrade had the USPL prog included in it. Is there a link for just the USPL or do I need to run that at all?
If your spl is 1.11.0000 you don't need to run it again.
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If your spl is 1.11.0000 you don't need to run it again.
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Thanx but I just ran SPL anyway, and updated the radio. Everything went well.
After running USPL, I had the problem again with the slow scrolling that I posted about before. Everthing was just running really slow. Then, after I upgraded the radio, it was fast again. (I have no idea why this happens) THen I turned on the phone and TomTom (without Quick GPS) and got 3 to 4 sats in my house for the first time in like 1min. That was the fastest ever. Does this radio version improve GPS as well or is this just a coincidence? However, I'm just happy that I don't have to hard reset again. Will test the battery life tomorrow. Thanx.
BTW: Where do you look to see the SPL version on the phone?
Maybe a coincidence - spl on first splash screen
I haven't noticed any differences. My radio version is 2.98.90, I don't know if it was that to start with or it came with the B&B 4.2 upgrade. I get about 1.5 days with moderate to heavy use, and just about 2 days max.
how do you install this?
hi guys!
Same problem with Battery life on Artemis with WM6!
with WM5, i sure got 2-3 days. and now its just upto one day. By evening my battery is down to 15-30%.
I have tried draining the battery completely and then charging it all night, but this doesnt improve battery life either.
I am using Radio 2.98.90
Hello,
my radio version is 2.98.90 too, and at home, I haven't a really good GSM-receipt (I hope, you'll understand me, my English is terrible). That's the reason why my battery time is really short. Try to disable the GSM and look, if your runtime is much longer.
shawndh said:
I just realized that my battery life kinda sucks. I'm down to one day with moderate use.
Had a full charge about 7am, brightness is one from lowest setting, used Live search for about 10min at lunch and IE at the same time, listened to the radio for about an hour, made 3 phone calls for a total of about 25min worth of talk time - 2 of which were using BT (only had BT on when I was in the car). I'm home now and I'm at 33%.
Maybe it was the radio. Other than that, the phones been sitting for most of the day. How about others?
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Hi Guys, my battery is running fine, around 3 days but if i enable battery status to the today screen, it starts to eat the battery like hell, any ideas ?
petervbeck said:
Latest Radio ROM for Artemis is 2.98.90 and should bring you some improvement with batterylife...
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Looks like my battery life has improved a little. After 8hrs of medium use, I still had 69% batt life. Pretty good. But I also have to report two incidences where I could not answer a call or make a call- reset needed. Got a message saying that the signal may not be avail and I had a full signal?! This has never happened before this radio upgrade. Any reports of this from others?
Other than that, everything else seems fine. May try to reflash later on if I still have this problem, but if it still persists, I'll look for another radio. Not being able to answer calls is a real PIA in business if you know what I mean.
i just tried removing battery status from the today screen and my battery life is good again.... could this be a problem then?
so what is the verdict here? i had a mda compact 2 and the bateyr lasted 5-6 days of FULL use
i upgraded to mda compact 3 and stragight away put wm6 cooked roms on it - ive tried most of them on here including the official wm6 - all seem to only give me about a day batteyr life????
something cant be right here? after half a day im down to 47% odd
Phones should surely last 2/3 days? especially a Mda/Pda???
what is it that drains a battery? is it the programs running, installed ????
ive just installed wm5 again to see if its any better, could i have possibly burnt out my batteyr by cooking so many Roms on it??
someone help as this is driving me crazy!
Battery life is good. With GPS and 234Mhz 6hours.
patterns said:
so what is the verdict here? i had a mda compact 2 and the bateyr lasted 5-6 days of FULL use
i upgraded to mda compact 3 and stragight away put wm6 cooked roms on it - ive tried most of them on here including the official wm6 - all seem to only give me about a day batteyr life????
something cant be right here? after half a day im down to 47% odd
Phones should surely last 2/3 days? especially a Mda/Pda???
what is it that drains a battery? is it the programs running, installed ????
ive just installed wm5 again to see if its any better, could i have possibly burnt out my batteyr by cooking so many Roms on it??
someone help as this is driving me crazy!
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I'm still testing but so far, after upgrading my radio to 2.98.90, I'm at 74% by the end of the day with moderate use. I'm trying to keep the same ROM and not hard reset for a while to see if it improves more (I like to drain the battery to the end and then recharge) . So, I'm at like 2 days with the new radio. This is sufficient for me since I keep a charger around anyway.
Battery life ist around 6-8 days!
Plain WM6 (from o2) firmware with BatteryStatus, Calendar+ on today screen. Bluetooth and WLAN off, some SMS a week, around 5-10 minutes telephone calls a week. Using calendar and contacts regularly some times a day. Using Tomeraider, iSilo, Mobipocket, TomTom/NoniGPSPlot, etc. some times a week. No other system utilities beside BatteryStatus installed!
Surfing over WLAN: battery is empty after 2-3 hours.
I have no problems
Regards,
Manuel
PS: Background light is faulty since last week: background light is completely off on setting 1+2, sometimes even on setting 3, and it flickers permanently. Xda Orbit goes back to o2 next week.
pending programs
Hi,
if you have a battery drain problem you should check your programs first. There are some which really cause high consumption in the background...
so anyone complaining should list his installed progs!
Hello Fellow HTC users.
Im still new in this HTC business, but ive purchased my Htc p3600 no more than 6 months ago, and curently im am using
ROM Version : 6.2 EN from Kamba ( TY SO MUCH ITS AWESOME KAMBA)
Radio Version : 1.50.08.11
Well my problem here is that my batery only lasts one day and sometimes barely. And if i use the Tom Tom then i cant reach the end of the day with the same batery charge. I am always checking if i am any program is working in the background but no. Was wondering if is there any prog that will help me maitain my battery or anything that you guys could assist me with.
Or is this something that I will have to get used to? bateries from HTC dont last long?
Thanks alot for all the help.
Soccs
Soccs said:
Hello Fellow HTC users.
Im still new in this HTC business, but ive purchased my Htc p3600 no more than 6 months ago, and curently im am using
ROM Version : 6.2 EN from Kamba ( TY SO MUCH ITS AWESOME KAMBA)
Radio Version : 1.50.08.11
Well my problem here is that my batery only lasts one day and sometimes barely. And if i use the Tom Tom then i cant reach the end of the day with the same batery charge. I am always checking if i am any program is working in the background but no. Was wondering if is there any prog that will help me maitain my battery or anything that you guys could assist me with.
Or is this something that I will have to get used to? bateries from HTC dont last long?
Thanks alot for all the help.
Soccs
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TomTom will drain your battery very fast
You should install batterystatus
Depending on usage, my battery usually lasts more than 48h, but GPS is a drainer for batteries, and together with tomtom...
Anyway, you should install batterystatus and monitor the battery drain to see if there is any leak. I usually have around 70-80mA with no application launched, but with maximum brightness it goes up to 250mA.
To me Mary 3.3.5 SL is the best when it comes to battery,plus I don´t use HTC Home,HTC Launcher and stuff like that.
I guess those two plugins or apps have something to do,the nicer the rom looks the faster the battery drains and TomTom is a drainer like they say,so if you are using biotouch or some similar app it also make the battery consumption go higher.
I down grade from 1.50 to 1.46 resulting in longer battery life.
How fast can I overclock my chip to in my Rhod100 safely?
I'm using OCT I.5
CPUs are all different from on another. A "safe" speed for one person may not be for another. Best bet is to experiment by trying the next increment up, and test to see if there is any instability, SOD, etc. If everything looks okay, try the next increment up.
Some people on the overclocking thread seem to be having good luck at the lower-700s, with dynamic OC'ing turned off. I have mine set for the default 652 MHz setting (but with dynamic OC'ing off) just to be on the safe side.
You do not increase voltage, so overclocking to any value should be safe. In the worst case you just hang the device, but a softreset fixes this. I found the 710Mhz frequency to be 100% reliable.
Thanks Guys. Been a big help
i dunno, depends on software and rom. i personally do 768 no dynamic, all settings 0 at 1000ms on energy cookie 23138 sep 14. no reset needed for a month or so. and when it did it was user error lol.
but u just gotta play with it. expect to reset a few times. and id keep all settings on 0 at 1000 ms. just me.
Jackos said:
You do not increase voltage, so overclocking to any value should be safe. In the worst case you just hang the device, but a softreset fixes this. I found the 710Mhz frequency to be 100% reliable.
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710 is the most reliable ive seen from public opinion
I did a bit of research and found out the chip is capable of 850mhz.
I've got mine running at 806.4 and seems to be runnning fine. I switched the stepping off. Feels awesome.
uncleswoop said:
i dunno, depends on software and rom. i personally do 768 no dynamic, all settings 0 at 1000ms on energy cookie 23138 sep 14. no reset needed for a month or so. and when it did it was user error lol.
but u just gotta play with it. expect to reset a few times. and id keep all settings on 0 at 1000 ms. just me.
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How can no reset be needed for a month if your rom version is only 3 days old?
enahs_ said:
How can no reset be needed for a month if your rom version is only 3 days old?
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i lol'd
enahs_ said:
How can no reset be needed for a month if your rom version is only 3 days old?
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i meant from reset needed from sod's or other issues.
energy has been my rom of choice for quite some time. every version has been fully compatible for me with oct. thats what i meant to say
Can someone link to the overclocking software? I'd like to give it a try.
How about battery life and temperature? Does overclocking to 710 reduce battery life and increase the phone's operating temperature? If so, by how much?
gromky said:
Can someone link to the overclocking software? I'd like to give it a try.
How about battery life and temperature? Does overclocking to 710 reduce battery life and increase the phone's operating temperature? If so, by how much?
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There Are 2 Overclocking Apps You Can Find Them
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
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Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
Does overclocking the phone kill your battery? I already only get two days of battery life.
Yes, I noticed decreased battery life with 710Mhz OC.
gromky said:
Does overclocking the phone kill your battery? I already only get two days of battery life.
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I get three days with NRG ROM, but I have pretty light use. However with OC it is no worse than before.
Also using Energy ROM, have experimented overclocking at 650 MHz, and now 710 MHz for the past few days (based on suggestions in this tread, actually!). Haven't noticed a significant reduction in battery life. I get around 2 days also. 2 days has been pretty typical on the Rhodium for me, with the stock ROM and Energy, and moderate usage. Most comments on the main overclocking thread seem to indicate that battery life is not greatly reduced. Just anecdotal comments, of course. Don't think anyone has done any halfway scientific testing.
~8mA more during sleep
~40mA more during stress
That's why you don't notice a big difference during "normal usage". Try not to use the device for some days (I know it's hard ;D) with overclocking and without so you will notice the difference. Like I said in another thread: We do not measure the battery life while using the device - because this isn't measurable and doesn't give any reliable results.
It's like the percent battery driver - any clever person should notice that this cannot be described as precise.
Im using 787MHz dynamic oc with no problem at all. It doesnt seem to affect battery life either, but then again Im not using Sense.
Jackos said:
~8mA more during sleep
~40mA more during stress
That's why you don't notice a big difference during "normal usage". Try not to use the device for some days (I know it's hard ;D) with overclocking and without so you will notice the difference. Like I said in another thread: We do not measure the battery life while using the device - because this isn't measurable and doesn't give any reliable results.
It's like the percent battery driver - any clever person should notice that this cannot be described as precise.
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I'm not exactly sure what point you are making. My observation is that with or without OC, the length of time my phone can be used before recharging is approximately the same, i.e., I don't detect any decrease in battery discharge.
Since my usage patterns are the same for both cases, this variable drops from the equation.
So, you need to run the program every time the phone boots? Or does the program remember its settings?