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TornadoTotalControl OverClocking on Excalibur..

I have TornadoPowerControl installed and working on my Excalibur and would like to know what is the fastest settings I can clock the excalibur without damaging it..?? right now i just have it on AUTO.. Fastest is 204MHZ

Hi, I am trying to install this program as well, but having a little difficulty finding the download for Compact Framework Version 2.0 SP1...I would greatly appreciate if you could help me out.....regarding the highest stable clock speed, I have been testing it at 252 and 264 and personally feel that 252 is pretty stable....thanks for your time.
Regards,

Here's the link i used to DL the .NET Cf.. so 252mhz is stable..? how long u been clocking at that speed for??
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6b-356b-4a2c-857c-e62f50ae9a55&displaylang=en

apologize for the late reply, thank you for the link....works great, yes my S620 has been overclocked at 252 close to a month now, so far so good.....I did try it a 264 for a while but didn't really notice that much difference and plus I didn't want to take a chance on draining the battery any faster...at 252 my battery still last the whole day on a full charge with a few hours on the phone, couple of hours on wifi, and a couple of hours of watching a movie (via TCPMP)...I have it overclocked all the time at 252 even when it comes out of stanby/and after a soft reset....hope this helps....

In MY business environment, htc s620 with bluetooth enabled and push e-mail enabled, with 15-25 phone call a day, some internet browsing, without tornado power control the battery ends before dinner, and sometime also dinners are part of the business !
My Hermes? always a USB-MINI USB adapter is in my pocket! Wizard? something better! Nokia 6310i? 2-3 days!
Lesson Learned: downclocking is more important in .BIZ than overclocking!

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kwues said:
Hi, I am trying to install this program as well, but having a little difficulty finding the download for Compact Framework Version 2.0 SP1...I would greatly appreciate if you could help me out.....regarding the highest stable clock speed, I have been testing it at 252 and 264 and personally feel that 252 is pretty stable....thanks for your time.
Regards,
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log int xda ftp and you will find just the cab file that you need, instead of the 22 mb download from MS. i am attaching total commander for smartphone it has ftp and reg editer, if you type this into any desktop browers or pocket explorer it will login.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/ xda:xda meaning usernameassword for any other ftp sites. hope that helps.
actually both files will be in ftp excalibur folder. side note you probalby know this, but all files that need or require desktop install, just go to c:\program files\microsoft activesync and you will find the cab file, nice to store for later use. sometimes they will be seperate folder instaed activesynce, well hope some part of this was of any use

Ok i set OmapClock to 252mhz, and i set TornadoTotalControl to 228mhz.. am i doing it right?? i just overlooked my settings and now i think i have it set up wrong.. when i set OmapClock to 252mhz and set the clock its fine but when i reopen OmapClock again it reset back to 132mhz.. is it because when it hibernates the clock resets its speed?? Isn't TornadoTotalControl suppose to keep it overclocked?? hmm.. opinions please.. thanks..

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Hi,
Everytime i overclock my S620 to 252MHz my phone crashes it freezes up and i cannot do anything accept pull the battery. Am i doing something wrong?? Please HELP!!
Thanks

datacrime said:
Hi,
Everytime i overclock my S620 to 252MHz my phone crashes it freezes up and i cannot do anything accept pull the battery. Am i doing something wrong?? Please HELP!!
Thanks
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Everytime I am close to 11.000 RPM my fiat car engine stops running. Am I doing something wrong?
YES! found: I forgot to connect the brain before starting the engine
Simply you have understoood why your S620 processor is a 200 Mhz processor, because is GUARANTEED working at 200 Mhz! Any overclock isn't, read the DISCLAIMER in Tornado Power Control before testing it at 300 Mhz!

sergiopi said:
Everytime I am close to 11.000 RPM my fiat car engine stops running. Am I doing something wrong?
YES! found: I forgot to connect the brain before starting the engine
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LOL. Very nice (and polite) response!

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other people with the same phone have reported that it is stable at 252 so why would'nt mine? What is a stable speed to overclock it to?
Thanks

Does this work better than omap? because I can't seem to get omap working on my Dash.

datacrime said:
other people with the same phone have reported that it is stable at 252 so why would'nt mine? What is a stable speed to overclock it to?
Thanks
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Because you CAN'T pair the words "stable" and "overclock", otherwise, if it was stable at 220 Mhz (or 230 or 250 whatever) they will sell it as OMAP 220 Mhz, instead of OMAP 200 Mhz!
OVERCLOCK means "OVER THE STABLE CLOCK CERTIFIED FROM COMPANY"
How is your wife in the bed? I don't know, some like her, some other don't...

sergiopi said:
Because you CAN'T pair the words "stable" and "overclock", otherwise, if it was stable at 220 Mhz (or 230 or 250 whatever) they will sell it as OMAP 220 Mhz, instead of OMAP 200 Mhz!
OVERCLOCK means "OVER THE STABLE CLOCK CERTIFIED FROM COMPANY"
How is your wife in the bed? I don't know, some like her, some other don't...
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That is incorrect. It has nothing to do with stability. It has everything to do with optimal battery life. HTC made their phone with a 200 MHz chip because it provides optimal battery life. Once you overclock it, even 10%, you significantly reduce your battery life due to the faster CPU speed.
An OMAP CPU rated at 200MHz doesn't mean that it won't run stable at 240MHz or higher. The last two phones I've had I ran overclocked 240MHz for months without issue.
Whether or not your phone will run stable at 240MHz is a crapshoot, however... Basically, you can step up the overclocking until the point where the phone locks up and reboots itself. One or two steps below that is the "safe" overclocking speed.

http://focus.ti.com/graphics/wtbu/blockdiagrams/l4_omap850.gif
This is the link to the processor scheme... the data sheet clearly state for the ARM926EJ subsystem MAXIMUM frequency as 200 Mhz
Isn't only a power problem, is also a heat problem and in some conditions it could be critical. Also the other subsystems couldn't accept data at that frequency, depending from tolerance related to building technology and may be the ARM processor works but other components (EDGE, Bluetooth, WIFI, ... ) could overheat.
That's why the overclocker builders always say: USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...lateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
link to TI Specs
Summarizing:
Insn't common to fry a processor just for a little (20%) overclock and normal conditions, but if you overclock more than 20% and use it at full power for a couple of ours you love to live on the edge man!
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OMAP850 Features:
Low-Power, High-Performance CMOS Technology
Low-voltage 130 nm technology
1.1 - 1.5V cores, 1.8 - 2.75V IO
Extremely low power consumption: less than 10 µA in standby mode
Split power supplies for application processing, digital baseband and real-time clock enable precise control over power consumption
Optimized clocking and power management: Only two clocks required at 13 MHz and 32 kHz
ARM926TEJ Core Subsystem
ARM926EJ-S V5 architecture up to 200 MHz (maximum frequency)
16 kB I-cache; 8 kB D-cache
Java acceleration in hardware
Multimedia instruction set architecture (ISA) extension
EDGE Digital Baseband Subsystem
384 K-bytes internal SRAM
E-OTD and TTY support
Quad vocoder with EFR, FR, HR, AMR
GSM ultra-low power device (ULPD)
SIM interface

ummmm....
sergiopi said:
Because you CAN'T pair the words "stable" and "overclock", otherwise, if it was stable at 220 Mhz (or 230 or 250 whatever) they will sell it as OMAP 220 Mhz, instead of OMAP 200 Mhz!
OVERCLOCK means "OVER THE STABLE CLOCK CERTIFIED FROM COMPANY"
How is your wife in the bed? I don't know, some like her, some other don't...
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actually, you can pair the words. I am coming from a PC Gamer standpoint. Look at 3 things
1.) how long will it most likely last if I OC it
2.) Do I plan to have this device for that long? (most cases "no")
3.) can it handle my workload (gaming) without crashing or freezing. (if yes then stable, besides those companies that certify things certify them under a very strict bar.)

overxtone said:
actually, you can pair the words. I am coming from a PC Gamer standpoint. Look at 3 things
1.) how long will it most likely last if I OC it
2.) Do I plan to have this device for that long? (most cases "no")
3.) can it handle my workload (gaming) without crashing or freezing. (if yes then stable, besides those companies that certify things certify them under a very strict bar.)
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Another way of looking @ it is that most CPU's come in underclocked the reason why so we buy a better model, even more recently we find CPU's just with cores disabled so as they fit into the lower price bracket, so a stable clock is more than capable on many CPU's obviously depending on other factors RAM speed, BIOS blah blah blah "sorry just far too many factors"
Lets just now go back to these tiny PC's "PPC's" it's the same principle Stock frequencys lower than HTC\M$ stated the device runs @.
If my [email protected] are too warm then i OC'd too much, if the screen whites i OC'd too much, the device freezes i OC'd too much.
Sod it 240MHz and stable what more do i want? A substancial speed boost without an excessive heat load.
B.T.W i'm just rambling

yay...
...yay, So I assume you agree with me? lol

overxtone said:
...yay, So I assume you agree with me? lol
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Yep i just had a long winded way of going about it

Basically ..........ummm.... FLAME ON!..

[Q] Safe Overclocking speed

How fast can I overclock my chip to in my Rhod100 safely?
I'm using OCT I.5

CPUs are all different from on another. A "safe" speed for one person may not be for another. Best bet is to experiment by trying the next increment up, and test to see if there is any instability, SOD, etc. If everything looks okay, try the next increment up.
Some people on the overclocking thread seem to be having good luck at the lower-700s, with dynamic OC'ing turned off. I have mine set for the default 652 MHz setting (but with dynamic OC'ing off) just to be on the safe side.

You do not increase voltage, so overclocking to any value should be safe. In the worst case you just hang the device, but a softreset fixes this. I found the 710Mhz frequency to be 100% reliable.

Thanks Guys. Been a big help

i dunno, depends on software and rom. i personally do 768 no dynamic, all settings 0 at 1000ms on energy cookie 23138 sep 14. no reset needed for a month or so. and when it did it was user error lol.
but u just gotta play with it. expect to reset a few times. and id keep all settings on 0 at 1000 ms. just me.

Jackos said:
You do not increase voltage, so overclocking to any value should be safe. In the worst case you just hang the device, but a softreset fixes this. I found the 710Mhz frequency to be 100% reliable.
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710 is the most reliable ive seen from public opinion

I did a bit of research and found out the chip is capable of 850mhz.
I've got mine running at 806.4 and seems to be runnning fine. I switched the stepping off. Feels awesome.

uncleswoop said:
i dunno, depends on software and rom. i personally do 768 no dynamic, all settings 0 at 1000ms on energy cookie 23138 sep 14. no reset needed for a month or so. and when it did it was user error lol.
but u just gotta play with it. expect to reset a few times. and id keep all settings on 0 at 1000 ms. just me.
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How can no reset be needed for a month if your rom version is only 3 days old?

enahs_ said:
How can no reset be needed for a month if your rom version is only 3 days old?
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i lol'd

enahs_ said:
How can no reset be needed for a month if your rom version is only 3 days old?
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i meant from reset needed from sod's or other issues.
energy has been my rom of choice for quite some time. every version has been fully compatible for me with oct. thats what i meant to say

Can someone link to the overclocking software? I'd like to give it a try.
How about battery life and temperature? Does overclocking to 710 reduce battery life and increase the phone's operating temperature? If so, by how much?

gromky said:
Can someone link to the overclocking software? I'd like to give it a try.
How about battery life and temperature? Does overclocking to 710 reduce battery life and increase the phone's operating temperature? If so, by how much?
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There Are 2 Overclocking Apps You Can Find Them
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
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Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374

Does overclocking the phone kill your battery? I already only get two days of battery life.

Yes, I noticed decreased battery life with 710Mhz OC.

gromky said:
Does overclocking the phone kill your battery? I already only get two days of battery life.
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I get three days with NRG ROM, but I have pretty light use. However with OC it is no worse than before.

Also using Energy ROM, have experimented overclocking at 650 MHz, and now 710 MHz for the past few days (based on suggestions in this tread, actually!). Haven't noticed a significant reduction in battery life. I get around 2 days also. 2 days has been pretty typical on the Rhodium for me, with the stock ROM and Energy, and moderate usage. Most comments on the main overclocking thread seem to indicate that battery life is not greatly reduced. Just anecdotal comments, of course. Don't think anyone has done any halfway scientific testing.

~8mA more during sleep
~40mA more during stress
That's why you don't notice a big difference during "normal usage". Try not to use the device for some days (I know it's hard ;D) with overclocking and without so you will notice the difference. Like I said in another thread: We do not measure the battery life while using the device - because this isn't measurable and doesn't give any reliable results.
It's like the percent battery driver - any clever person should notice that this cannot be described as precise.

Im using 787MHz dynamic oc with no problem at all. It doesnt seem to affect battery life either, but then again Im not using Sense.

Jackos said:
~8mA more during sleep
~40mA more during stress
That's why you don't notice a big difference during "normal usage". Try not to use the device for some days (I know it's hard ;D) with overclocking and without so you will notice the difference. Like I said in another thread: We do not measure the battery life while using the device - because this isn't measurable and doesn't give any reliable results.
It's like the percent battery driver - any clever person should notice that this cannot be described as precise.
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I'm not exactly sure what point you are making. My observation is that with or without OC, the length of time my phone can be used before recharging is approximately the same, i.e., I don't detect any decrease in battery discharge.
Since my usage patterns are the same for both cases, this variable drops from the equation.

So, you need to run the program every time the phone boots? Or does the program remember its settings?

[Q] Kaiser 3D Drivers For Android - SOLVED - CAN BE CLOSED

I was wondering, the 3D performance is a lot better on the kaiser when using the video drivers (of course).
But is there any way to get the 3D driver to work in android?
Since i don't think it's possible to just install the driver on WM and then run Android because it fully shuts down WM i was wondering wether there's a way to get that nice smooth performance on Android as well.
Or is there any app that makes the kaiser a bit faster (graphics wise)?
Thanks a lot!!!
Answer:
3D Drivers are implemented (if that's the correct word (I'm from Belgium so)) in Android.

syntax1993 said:
I was wondering, the 3D performance is a lot better on the kaiser when using the video drivers (of course).
But is there any way to get the 3D driver to work in android?
Since i don't think it's possible to just install the driver on WM and then run Android because it fully shuts down WM i was wondering wether there's a way to get that nice smooth performance on Android as well.
Or is there any app that makes the kaiser a bit faster (graphics wise)?
Thanks a lot!!!
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Aren't they allready implemented using opengl????

If your running android you already have the drivers, they are in the kernel. I think we need to make a big sticky of that somewhere, third time ive seen it asked this week.

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If your running android you already have the drivers, they are in the kernel. I think we need to make a big sticky of that somewhere, third time ive seen it asked this week.
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I second that

syntax1993 said:
Or is there any app that makes the kaiser a bit faster (graphics wise)?
Thanks a lot!!!
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As has already been said, HW3d is implemented into the kernel which utilises the qcom chip in our kaiser's, but the hardware graphics acceleration although better then nothing is pretty crap compared to the new phones coming along so you can't expect miracles, just be glad it has any at all and android can actually use it unlike window mobile!

scooter1556 said:
As has already been said, HW3d is implemented into the kernel which utilises the qcom chip in our kaiser's, but the hardware graphics acceleration although better then nothing is pretty crap compared to the new phones coming along so you can't expect miracles, just be glad it has any at all and android can actually use it unlike window mobile!
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I would not call 32 frames per second in NEOCORE, with your build, prertty crap.
Well, can not be compared to new phones, but you must admit that this is more than enough to run 3D games(we can play RagingTunder2!).

Millence said:
I would not call 32 frames per second in NEOCORE, with your build, prertty crap.
Well, can not be compared to new phones, but you must admit that this is more than enough to run 3D games(we can play RagingTunder2!).
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No, it is quite impressive for an old timer, but obviously it can't keep up with the new hardware on the market and therefore the applications/games that are targeted at these devices. It's also a shame it isn't man enough for new video codecs although installing arcMedia which uses FFMpeg as it's backend improves things a little and gives support for more formats.

Thank you for answering, i had no idea it was integrated into the kernel.
I've heard that the kaiser had a quite good video chip but that's probably compared to the other phones at that time .
Well my phone is running Quake2 at about 10FPS (a bit higher (about 15-20) when looking into corners etc.) and i was hoping for a bit higher rate but it seems it isn't very easy to gain that on android.
Thanks a lot again for this quick answer, i haven't found any post on the forum wich answered my question so...
Syntax1993

Haven't looked well enough then it seems.
I'm sorry.

awhile back I looked at the performance of our integrated 3d and it is about on par with a rage 128 from what I remember... which is pretty bad lol not to mention that on android we have to run through java and we have a pretty weak fpu. I mean in linpack with my barebones rls 3 and overclocked to 572 mhz I get 3.8 mflop/s which is pretty bad lol. That was with JIT working properly even.

aceoyame said:
awhile back I looked at the performance of our integrated 3d and it is about on par with a rage 128 from what I remember... which is pretty bad lol not to mention that on android we have to run through java and we have a pretty weak fpu. I mean in linpack with my barebones rls 3 and overclocked to 572 mhz I get 3.8 mflop/s which is pretty bad lol. That was with JIT working properly even.
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Have u had any problems clocking that high? I'm a bit scared to clock higher than 450Mhz because i don't want to brick my phone tbh.
Would be cool to clock that high.
*Afraid to clock that high LOL*

syntax1993 said:
Have u had any problems clocking that high? I'm a bit scared to clock higher than 450Mhz because i don't want to brick my phone tbh.
Would be cool to clock that high.
*Afraid to clock that high LOL*
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And there's the batt consumption issue... even if it can be reached ull need a really really long lasting extended batt, I got a Seidio Inocell 1600mAh, in a donut with .25 kernel and oced to 470, my batt last me like 10-12 hours if I use moderate wifi, bt or gps and keeping my data to 2g only.... If I try to keep my wifi or gps turned on all time and use 3g probably it wouldnt last more than 4-6 hours.

albertorodast2007 said:
And there's the batt consumption issue... even if it can be reached ull need a really really long lasting extended batt, I got a Seidio Inocell 1600mAh, in a donut with .25 kernel and oced to 470, my batt last me like 10-12 hours if I use moderate wifi, bt or gps and keeping my data to 2g only.... If I try to keep my wifi or gps turned on all time and use 3g probably it wouldnt last more than 4-6 hours.
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Well since the data here costs a lot of money (i don't know what it's like where you live) i rarely use it.
GPS is off and wifi is only on when at home or for a short period of time.
BT is also rarely used and off when not used.
I'm using a 2880Mah battery so the clocking won't be that much of a problem and i can recharge it every night so.
Aren't there high costs for 2G and 3G? it's waay to expensive to have it turned on all day.
Would i get any problems when clocking to around 500Mhz or smthng like that?

syntax1993 said:
Well since the data here costs a lot of money (i don't know what it's like where you live) i rarely use it.
GPS is off and wifi is only on when at home or for a short period of time.
BT is also rarely used and off when not used.
I'm using a 2880Mah battery so the clocking won't be that much of a problem and i can recharge it every night so.
Aren't there high costs for 2G and 3G? it's waay to expensive to have it turned on all day.
Would i get any problems when clocking to around 500Mhz or smthng like that?
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If ur using a data plan its relatively cheaper... i've oced my lil htc tilt to 520mhz, specialy when trying heavy apps and never had an issue (well never had issues more than the normal ones LOL ) you'll feel it gets a bit "warm" in the backside (maybe due to the higher batt consumption) and speed increase isnt that much beyond a certain point but maybe ull be luckier than me! (this is something common in evert oc! my cousin and i both have an evga gtx 275 i can get ir run almost 100 mhz higher than stock and if my cousin even tries to touch the values his pc hangs up!!) Taking abuot that... The only thing i've never tried was to oc the gpu (i've seen that option in atools) dunno if its doable in our kaisers and if there's a real increase/decrease in performance... if you give it a try maybe you could publish ur results...

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If ur using a data plan its relatively cheaper... i've oced my lil htc tilt to 520mhz, specialy when trying heavy apps and never had an issue (well never had issues more than the normal ones LOL ) you'll feel it gets a bit "warm" in the backside (maybe due to the higher batt consumption) and speed increase isnt that much beyond a certain point but maybe ull be luckier than me! (this is something common in evert oc! my cousin and i both have an evga gtx 275 i can get ir run almost 100 mhz higher than stock and if my cousin even tries to touch the values his pc hangs up!!) Taking abuot that... The only thing i've never tried was to oc the gpu (i've seen that option in atools) dunno if its doable in our kaisers and if there's a real increase/decrease in performance... if you give it a try maybe you could publish ur results...
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I'll try clocking CPU to about 500Mhz or a bit more
Going to use it tomorrow because it's about 9pm ATM.
GPU would be nice if it was possible to overclock it.
I'll post it tomorrow, could be that i can't see any result compared to a lower frequency.
Thx for ur help btw!

I've noticed a small diffrence when trying quake2 atm.
The diffrence isn't very great but i will try clocking it a bit higher tomorrow
Yooooo

As i've said before many times there is no risk in overclocking past 528 because we are not touching the voltage going to the cpu when we are overclocking it, just the crystal that controls the frequency it is running at. There is a slight heat increase and loss of battery consequentially because of that extra heat but that is it. I am speaking from experience overclocking a 2.4 ghz celeron E2200 to 4.25 ghz on air cooling with no disatrous results and used it as such every day. Basically I overclocked it with a pinmod for voltage and FSB increases and then I overclocked it further with the motherboard and supplied even more voltage. For the heatsink I used an OEM socket 775 heatsink and had no problems at all, it typically ran about 48 Celsius. If an overclock that high and potentially harmful won't kill the cpu then certainly one of a much smaller % is not going to harm a little kaiser.
FYI I took the voltage on that Celeron to 1.7 volts to get it that high. Stock is 1.1 if I recall

aceoyame said:
As i've said before many times there is no risk in overclocking past 528 because we are not touching the voltage going to the cpu when we are overclocking it, just the crystal that controls the frequency it is running at. There is a slight heat increase and loss of battery consequentially because of that extra heat but that is it. I am speaking from experience overclocking a 2.4 ghz celeron E2200 to 4.25 ghz on air cooling with no disatrous results and used it as such every day. Basically I overclocked it with a pinmod for voltage and FSB increases and then I overclocked it further with the motherboard and supplied even more voltage. For the heatsink I used an OEM socket 775 heatsink and had no problems at all, it typically ran about 48 Celsius. If an overclock that high and potentially harmful won't kill the cpu then certainly one of a much smaller % is not going to harm a little kaiser.
FYI I took the voltage on that Celeron to 1.7 volts to get it that high. Stock is 1.1 if I recall
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Awsome I could only reach 2.9 gigs on a intel q9400 on an asrock g31m-s (its a really crappy n cheap mobo!) The q9400 runs stock @ 2.66 maybe u can help me with that too lol!! Kiddin...
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Awsome I could only reach 2.9 gigs on a intel q9400 on an asrock g31m-s (its a really crappy n cheap mobo!) The q9400 runs stock @ 2.66 maybe u can help me with that too lol!! Kiddin...
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See BSEL pin mod for socket 775 as it isnt a gigabyte board that should send your OC soaring through the roof since it doesnt use CPUID for configuring its clock speed on boot.

Millence said:
I would not call 32 frames per second in NEOCORE, with your build, prertty crap.
Well, can not be compared to new phones, but you must admit that this is more than enough to run 3D games(we can play RagingTunder2!).
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Just tried Raging Thunder 2. Wow - I had no idea games like this could run well on our old machines - except without an accelerometer I can't see how to steer and accelerate at the same time .
Are there any other nice looking action/racing gaems out there that give decent frame rates?

[Q] Highest stable overclock on Touch Pro 2?

Anyone care to tell me what the highest stable overclock they have achieved on the Rhodium/Touch Pro 2 with Android?

reocej said:
Anyone care to tell me what the highest stable overclock they have achieved on the Rhodium/Touch Pro 2 with Android?
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Depends on the device. Most seem to max out at 748,800khz, one guy claimed he hit 820mhz or smth outrageous.
Honestly the best way to establish what your device can handle is to push the OC in WinMo until it's not stable any longer. That should be a good indicator of how far you can push Android.
Honestly I found OCing Android to be way more trouble than it's worth - the phone seemed to lag even more, and it definitely made the device less stable. I'm not a big fan of overclocking my computer either, so I am a little biased.

Cool. Thanks arrrghh. I reprogrammed a USSC TP2 to use with PagePlus for my daughter and put Android on it for her. Just wanted to try and push it to its limits I guess and see what it would do. What class/size/brand card do you suggest I use? Right now it is using a Sandisk class 6 8 gig card, but I've heard some have gotten better performance from class 2 cards.

I'd start at around 600mhz and keep pushing it up 20mhz at a time. The clock driver only takes it in steps of 19.2mhz, but is smart enough to divide it correctly via mod. At 640 or so the bottom started to get noticeably warm, and I've set it at 660 right now.
Each device is different, some take overclocks easily than others.
-- Starfox

Thanks for the help guys, I'll keep tinkering with it.

I've a RHOD100 and have acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=692000 on FRX07 and all is well and does not seem to even get any way warm underneath.
Mind you, while I've set this, is there any way to check within Android as to what speed my TP2 thinks it's actually running at (in case it is ignoring the setting in the setup file) ?
However, it is possible that the speed may work differently with differing builds of the various components but maybe someone more knowledgable on here could confirm whether or not this is the case.
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Hi,
i use the tool "CPU Master Free" to see the actually clock speed (i hope it shows the right values).
At this time its oc at 633,6 Mhz an no problems.
sebastian

Perfect - it says I'm running at 691.2Mhz
C

reocej said:
Anyone care to tell me what the highest stable overclock they have achieved on the Rhodium/Touch Pro 2 with Android?
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Got my Tilt2 (most recent kernel + rootfs) maxed out at 768.000MHz, and I noticed smoother scrolling and window animations.
But for me, I noticed that the phone actually freezes at times.. even when the phone wasn't overclocked. I believe that's just bugs in the kernel, though, soo not much to do about that from my experience, OC performance relies heavily on the device and kernel version (if that wasn't obvious lol).
EDIT: Ehh, I've read that anywhere from 600-640MHz is the most stable. Currently I'm at 595.2MHz and am noticing an improvement in stability over 768MHz.. Hope this helps.

[Q] Overclock

Well i have a phone, and in that forum members says that Overclock the cpu shorts the motherboard life, is that true? and for those who are using Overclock, do u really feel something diferent with the performance of the tablet? or do u see something wrong with Overclock? like random reeboots or makes the tablet hot? Im thinking in OC or not my tab, so i wanna see the experience from other members, thx in advance. :good:

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Well i have a phone, and in that forum members says that Overclock the cpu shorts the motherboard life, is that true? and for those who are using Overclock, do u really feel something diferent with the performance of the tablet? or do u see something wrong with Overclock? like random reeboots or makes the tablet hot? Im thinking in OC or not my tab, so i wanna see the experience from other members, thx in advance. :good:
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I cover this in the guide I wrote in general (which has been pushed down quite a ways) but anyways here goes another version.
Overclocking varies from device to device, even of the same model. Variances in tolerance is on a per chip basis, as long as they pass within a certain range they are sent out for production in devices. Overclocking in general is within means of the chip's abilities, if it isn't, you'll know it. Generally speaking, 1.4 GHz is perfectly fine on our devices. 1.5 GHz is also usually ok, but is the upper end of what the Tegra2 can usually tolerate. Few an go past 1.58 GHz, my old G2x's tegra2 could hit 1.7 GHz,but that's well beyond "normal" range.
Overclocking a device is the same as overclocking a PC, you need to be careful with it. Don't just ramp it to 65% overclock and expect it to run fine. Every chip is different. Do it in steps, and test each step before moving on. Test it in normal usage, test it in heavy usage, gaming, etc.
An overclocked device will certainly run hotter then normal, it's running faster, drawing more power, and that creates a hotter running core, no way around it. Keeping in mind there is no airflow in these things, that makes the biggest enemy to CPUs even more dangerous.Does it run so hot that it can shorten component life? Sure it can. Will you still have the device when it happens? I doubt it. Likely, we'll be on Tegra5 before it even begins to show signs of stress.
One of the nice things, though, is our CPUs range so much in speed according to load that just because your Max is 1.5 GHz, it doesn't always run there. Most times, it won't even be in the overclocked speeds. Does it run faster? Sure does. Benchmarks will raise nicely, and games that maybe got choppy before will smooth out, movies that couldn't play well will be fluid, the heavens will align, mankind will discover world peace and I'll win the lottery.
All that being said, I don't usually overclock, in fact I tend to underclock a little to 800MHz. Its usually sufficient to do normal tablet stuff, and I adjust the speed according to what I require. If my movie is lagging, I'll bump it up until it smooths out. Same for a game if it needs it.
In the end, its all personal choice, really. Just because you CAN overclock, doesn't mean you NEED to. IMO a well tuned governor will give as good a result as overclocking in normal usage, and a good I/O Scheduler will also help alot, without adding anymore heat or stress to your device.
TL;DNR:
Overclocking is fun. It causes more heat. It likely won't explode within the time you own it. Or your children. Your battery will suck.

thanks pio for the answer, thats what i needed to read, cuz usually when u talk about OC its like "yeah dude, OC its "tha greeeeeat doi it dude" or something like "dont do it!!! u will decrease your tablet life" and yes, i know that devices are way to diferent even if they are the same model, and also im agree with u, governors and I/O works better than OC but we dont have many for our device, i miss the smartass v2 governor,or the brazzilianwax too, but well, hope someone can port it for us someday.