[NEWS] Hermes kernel 1413 is a FAKE! - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

A group of us at #xda-devs on freenode started looking at the crackberry hex edit's to the kernel to make bbconnect work, and in the process noticed some strangeness in the disassembly. It appears the 1413 hermes kernel going around is in fact nothing more than build 1236. We have proven this now in assembly, the getversion function returns the value of 1236, not 1413. We are currently unsure how or where the patch occurs to visually show the faked version ID.
Midget's rom on the universal however, is truely 1413, with the same test his rom passed the correct version back.
Figured someone might like this update...
Midgets: MOVL R3, 0x585
Hermes: MOVL R3, 0x4D4
585 = 1413 decimal
4D4 = 1236 decimal

confirmed, and mine is the real deal

confirmed...it did not take long...ehehe....i compared to the real one this afternoon,it is endeed a fake... the kernel files/modules dont even match.but let not blame anyone...i belive this was done for a specific reason.

Would someone please elaborate on these implications? Does this mean that any ROM advertised in the Hermes section as CE 5.2.1413 actually is not?

Correct, 1413 does not exist for the hermes, although it's completely possible for a hybrid kernel to exist, but I for one would not think that to be very "stable". That's not to say a future kernel couldn't be legit, but if you want to be sure, drop by the irc chat and we'll help you pull apart a rom to see what it's made out of!

its really 1236 edited to 1413
similar to when that chick you've been hitting on turns out to ahve a c*ck, only not quite as bad

wow midget...I feel violated on so many different levels

Midget_1990 said:
its really 1236 edited to 1413
similar to when that chick you've been hitting on turns out to ahve a c*ck, only not quite as bad
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lmao....
will be updating my kernel tonight, nice find guys, glad I had you help with the bbconnect shadow otherwise it wouldve gone unnoticed.

Shadowmite said:
Correct, 1413 does not exist for the hermes, although it's completely possible for a hybrid kernel to exist, but I for one would not think that to be very "stable". That's not to say a future kernel couldn't be legit, but if you want to be sure, drop by the irc chat and we'll help you pull apart a rom to see what it's made out of!
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if you talking about CE OS 5.2.1413 then you are incorrect....there is such rom native to the hermes.
regards....

I didn't say it doesn't exist, only that we have not seen it yet, the ones we have appear to all be the fake.
EDIT: I stand corrected, I did say that, but I later said it's highly possibly a future rom could be legit at that level...

Interesting.... Whatever the case, the current hermes WM6 build, v17913.0.3.0 has massive improvements on almost every front. Whether the kernel is patched to 5.2.1413 or not is irrelevant to this IMO. I'll leave my own ROM alone.

Hex editing the version number? That just seems wrong... but if it works then its a valid fix.

Shadowmite said:
I didn't say it doesn't exist, only that we have not seen it yet, the ones we have appear to all be the fake.
EDIT: I stand corrected, I did say that, but I later said it's highly possibly a future rom could be legit at that level...
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no problem ..eheh...
But please note that sometimes a cook changes such info for genuine reasons.
due to this kind of investigation some cooks may have to delay their releases for months or even not even release it till the rom becomes official...but by then who wants the cooked one when you can have the official one...i wonder what will be the consequences of posting such info....just an observation...
xda is becoming to smart for its own good.

I wonder if this was necessary to graft on the WM6 update...
All I can say is that the lvsw derivative I'm running is the most stable, fast and improved OS I've ever used on my TyTN. I can't even begin to list the improvements over the last build....

I'm certainly not saying anything about the rest of the OS build, my terminology might be misinterpreted by how new I am here. We only proved that the kernel is faked, and the coverup is not done at the kernel level. The kernel reports itself as 1236 just as it should.
I'll agree, lvsw's kernel (used in custel 2.5 also) is incredible...

Sleuth255 said:
I wonder if this was necessary to graft on the WM6 update...
All I can say is that the lvsw derivative I'm running is the most stable, fast and improved OS I've ever used on my TyTN. I can't even begin to list the improvements over the last build....
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in this case all credit should go to the rom cook

faria said:
no problem ..eheh...
But please note that sometimes a cook changes such info for genuine reasons.
due to this kind of investigation some cooks may have to delay their releases for months or even not even release it till the rom becomes official...but by then who wants the cooked one when you can have the official one...i wonder what will be the consequences of posting such info....just an observation...
xda is becoming to smart for its own good.
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so releasing false versions is acceptable?

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so releasing false versions is acceptable?
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well..depends what reasons are behind the fake... but in not saying it is aceptable if somone release a fake rom just to say i was the first or whatever ....remember this forum is being watched all the time.

I don't give a rat's ass considering it often ends up hex edited to support Crackberry, etc. anyway. An improvement is an improvement, no matter what the version says.
Now back to cooking, everyone!

JassJammer said:
Hex editing the version number? That just seems wrong... but if it works then its a valid fix.
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this is not me guys..... justting u know

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Further steps - after Vanilla and WXML v0.10

At first i would like to thank all guys in the community that worked for it and making this possible - you all are doing this for fun and not for a salary, you all are idealists.
But, especially to kyphur, how it will goes on now? Bug fixing or releasing the one we really wanted?
Almost everybody, me too, flashed a WM6 version either Vanilla or v0.01 and is now sreaming that this is and that is not working. Of course it is a little bit frustating but why you should give up the primary goal - the building of a stable and note beta based rom - for bug fixing?
Now the first WM6 rom is out, the issue with the unnamed source of the "real" in difference to the "beta" rom steps more and more in the background and the time for releasing the real rom, as you wanted to do it, comes closer and closer.
I think it would be a much bigger effort to work on the real rom and checking the dangerous items in it, than doing that bug fixing.
As more you concentrate on this as faster it will be there and, in the end, when we have it, nobody will uses the bugfixes anymore.
other opinions?
I have not abandoned the original Rom Base for WMXL. It is still there and I still want to release a version based on it or it's predecessor (such as an approved for official release carrier Rom).
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I have not abandoned the original Rom Base for WMXL. It is still there and I still want to release a version based on it or it's predecessor (such as an approved for official release carrier Rom).
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Great, thank you and in case that you did not not recognized my pm´s, just delete them.
You´re great!
I say head on to the final release. There are enough guru's here who can figure out how to fix those niggly little bugs, but there's only Kryphur with his finger on the crossbow ROM...
Absolutely,
No other e.g. the same opinions?
I, too are anxious to see the original wm6 rom development coming around at some later stage. I can understand the recent hype though, since I also use my Hermes both as a tech toy and as a work system being torn between these both "system states" often enough. The advent of a stable productive version would surely make my day and I believe the original devt. was a better chance in this direction. For the time being, I am quite content with playing around with what is availeable as of now, knowing that I can always revert to my 'stable' HTC Test rom.
So many great possibilities have surfaced in just the last couple of days, that I am quite sure soon we will basically be able to find solutions for everyones different needs and priorities here.
I for one am definitely keeping an eye out for k's original rom project.
Thank you for your effort and support.
BZ
I agree with apokryphus's premise, which needed to be expressed. I am sitting back waiting for the "original" ROM that kyphur promised. I use my device for work and play, and don't have time or motivation to be squashing bugs all the time When I flash, I want to have a working system that I won't have to constantly return to the forum to find bug fixes for, and I know there are many out there like myself.
Now, friend Kyphur, you are stuck with trying to field all the posts in the "Issues" thread, while at the same time working on the original goal. Did you guys see how heated the thread got at a couple of points?
A thousand thanks, Kyphur, I admire (but don't envy) you! Just don't let the furor raised by the "early release" sidetrack you, PLEASE! "
BZ" as we used to say in the Navy: "Bravo Zulu" (signal talk for "Well Done.")
Best regards to you and your collaborators.
Ben, deported from Chi-Town to Florida.
In according to duttys "rom koch" all we need at last is a stable and original rom then we will have all we need to cook our own specified rom with appz we want and without those we do not want.
I think when kyphur will release his genuine rom, we will have one of the best devices - with out gps - that we can have!

Merging ROM's

Hello,
I know many of those "rom-cookers" whant to realise their "own" rom, but at the moment there are so many cooked roms... so no one know which is the right (newest, fastest, most stable, most features etc.).
Wouldn't it be intelligent to work all together on one "xda-rom"... perhaps we can reache a better, and faster development if we all work together on one "XDA-Developers-ROM".
HerrVorragend said:
Hello,
I know many of those "rom-cookers" whant to realise their "own" rom, but at the moment there are so many cooked roms... so no one know which is the right (newest, fastest, most stable, most features etc.).
Wouldn't it be intelligent to work all together on one "xda-rom"... perhaps we can reache a better, and faster development if we all work together on one "XDA-Developers-ROM".
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yes and no... because we all have our own different opinions...
there are really only 3 different ROMS...
Black 2.5 has its own source
Dutty v2 has his own source
lsvw has its own source
where is the Custell 1.2 was derived from the Dopod leaked beta ROM which has a few HSDPA issues and an older source ROM
xda-live is based on the original vinalla ROM that was leaked months ago...
walshieau said:
yes and no... because we all have our own different opinions...
there are really only 3 different ROMS...
Black 2.5 has its own source
Dutty v2 has his own source
lsvw has its own source
where is the Custell 1.2 was derived from the Dopod leaked beta ROM which has a few HSDPA issues and an older source ROM
xda-live is based on the original vinalla ROM that was leaked months ago...
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thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.
So, meaning to say, we can safely test only Black, Dutty, and LSVW, to see which one is better?...I understand it is a matter of preference, but some rom doesn't have what the other have...
Anyway, it is more fun to test and sort out all problem with all the roms, but sometimes, when they all realeased just about the same time... you have to pick one. Currently I'm on Black v2.5 from Dutty v1....
CUSTEL said:
thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.
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umm its a public forum loser... and im telling the public the truth as he requests the information about all the ROMS... hence i provided the correct information
how about you actually do your research.....
walshieau said:
umm its a public forum loser... and im telling the public the truth as he requests the information about all the ROMS... hence i provided the correct information
how about you actually do your research.....
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Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.
CUSTEL said:
Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.
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i dont talk down others ROMS.... i simply report the facts on request...
its as simple as that... he wanted to know the information to where the sources came from and the differences so i told him...
calm down... i think there are a box of tissues in your kitchen cupboard.... you sound like you need them...
i was refering to the issues with the Dopod Source... i did not say that you hadnt fixed those issues or found workarounds for them... so calm down chump...
CUSTEL said:
thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.
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CUSTEL said:
Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.
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Dude sorry but there was no need for that kind of reaction, the whole point behind cooked roms is that they are not perfect, ive had to make MANY MANY ammends to my guides site because of mistakes etc... walshy was providing informative answers to the OP, you have already provided two new versions of CUSTEL WM6 (1.1 and 1.2) so why go ape**** when somebody points out another fault???!
Uhhh... I think the reason(s) for some of the chefs not wanting to collaborate might have just revealed themselves.
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Dude sorry but there was no need for that kind of reaction, the whole point behind cooked roms is that they are not perfect, ive had to make MANY MANY ammends to my guides site because of mistakes etc... walshy was providing informative answers to the OP, you have already provided two new versions of CUSTEL WM6 (1.1 and 1.2) so why go ape**** when somebody points out another fault???!
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I highly doubt he has ever used the rom so how would he know of a fault that isn't even posted as a fault in my thread?
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I highly doubt he has ever used the rom so how would he know of a fault that isn't even posted as a fault in my thread?
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i pulled apart the Dopod Beta ROM which is how i know about its issues and details... i pull apart all ROMS... including yours
its part of the process of seeing where they REALLY come from....
walshieau said:
i pulled apart the Dopod Beta ROM which is how i know about its issues and details... i pull apart all ROMS... including yours
its part of the process of seeing where they REALLY come from....
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then if you did you also know that the fixes are in the rom too.
faria said:
then if you did you also know that the fixes are in the rom too.
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yes... as i reiterated in my previous posts that i simply ripped apart the ROMS and said the Dopod beta has issues and is not what it seems...
pulling forces to create a better rom would be the logical thing to do, but i guess theres too many "creative differences" between each chef. as well as too many fanboys and haters for each flavour.
why cant we all just get along? this forum is going downhill fast... please stop making it into another howard forums
thefunkygibbon said:
pulling forces to create a better rom would be the logical thing to do, but i guess theres too many "creative differences" between each chef. as well as too many fanboys and haters for each flavour.
why cant we all just get along? this forum is going downhill fast... please stop making it into another howard forums
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what about building an application that merges a rom from selectable "blocks"... so evry user can merge his own rom out of standard-parts (base + packagex + packagey etc).
many of those roms have greate performance but are overloaded with apps no one needs.
with a possibility to build an own rom by simply selecting some packages everyone can realise his own ideas and we all can work together on those standard packages.
perhaps an online-directory for those packaes would by cool (like installaling software on linux)... at the moment it is realy hard to find al thos packages in thier newest version
Don't worry about it too much - eventually, the aformentioned fanboys and haters will go away, fascinated with their next new shiny toy leaving behind those of us who are genuinely interested in the technology and the device and taking the whole thing forward.
Custel, you over-reacted to walshie's post, end-of. As far as I could tell, he was simply offering an explanation of where the various ROMs began their life without favouring one in particular.
Wind your neck in, eh mate? ;-)
Mods : please lock this thread before it degenerates any further
Cheers,
Smiffy!
Get it right!!!
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many of those roms have greate performance but are overloaded with apps no one needs.
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This is completely wrong. I have used and tested all of the ROMs. Yes. They do have a few select programs added to each of them. No. They are not overloaded!!! It is storage memory which is mostly empty. The add-ons if you were to actually look are very small. The only slightly bigger app would be any PDF viewer added. And that is still no biggy. A merged ROM---hmm well---who cares. A none FAULTLY ROM ---hmm well ---Thats what im all for!!! Peace
Lordsmiff said:
Don't worry about it too much - eventually, the aformentioned fanboys and haters will go away, fascinated with their next new shiny toy leaving behind those of us who are genuinely interested in the technology and the device and taking the whole thing forward.
Custel, you over-reacted to walshie's post, end-of. As far as I could tell, he was simply offering an explanation of where the various ROMs began their life without favouring one in particular.
Wind your neck in, eh mate? ;-)
Mods : please lock this thread before it degenerates any further
Cheers,
Smiffy!
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im with you on that one... mod lock the thread
simply put u cant merge roms because there are people that enjoy the cingular versions people that enjoy the dopod versions people that enjoy certiain features that dont pertain to others. It would be a nice concept but where dealing with roms which include many variations of options and mods that cater to those who benefit from it. So in essense there can be no one rom for anyone thats why even providers have different versions for diff markets. Its just no possible to have one version .Not with different providers and programs etc.
And i wouldnt bash any of the cookers out there because there doing a hell of a job some of there roms are almost close to being a OEM rom . I mean seriously there beating the microsft at there own game . These wm6 roms are fantastic . So why hate when your not contributing to the people as they are. Breaking down roms etc is fine but hoenslt ythe majority of us dont care where they come from we just reap the results from the cookers work and effort. I believe that it really imature to try to bash or disparage people that are apart of the whole opensource game. I mean there doing this for us ya know. And it takes hella time to do what they do something that the people talking trash do not put the time and effort to do.
Just before the threa gets locked I'djust like to re-iterate that we all have our own opinions on what makes a good rom so you'll never get one XDA ROM to suit everyone. Just look at Dutty - he releases 3 in one go as some like it clean, others with tools etc.
Let's all just be grateful for what we get and work together to solve the main, common issues that affect WM6 as a whole.

Best build for a XDA IIs wm200se?

Ok, I'm pretty much getting to grips with my IIs...
I've already upgraded my rom to o2's 1.40242 (up and down just to practice) and I know what I'm doing in so far as editing my registry... but my machine still isn't all it could be.
I've pretty much read the forum upside down, but there are so many options to this and that scattered around in the various threads that that it would take me forever to try them all for functionality, so as opposed to asking for help, I'd like to instead call upon your collective experience.
As said I'm looking to make my machine the best it can be for a wm2003se PDA (not really looking to upgrade to wm5 because 2003 is still the most compatible os out there at the mo), so I'd like your thoughts on the best roms and radio versions based on your useage. (best being most stable and functional (heh, I really like a2dp... but I know the issues).
So... what's your advise?
Thx in advance, all suggestions most welcome (well.... the non-profane ones anyway. )
Finally... big kudos to all the devs,(pro and hobby) you all done some really stunning stuff, this is a hell of a forum. (I'd name them but I'd like to finish this post today.)
maybe you can try he system rom from this progect:
http://sx66-blueangel.home.comcast.net/
also, upgrade your radio to the latest one.
MORE options!... are you purposely trying to give me brain melt?
I might give it a try at some point when it comes out of beta... but for the moment I'm really just going for stability and functionality.
Also you mentioned the latest radio rom.. which (if I'm correct) is the 1.15 version.. but I've read that alot of people have gone back to 1.13.... ho hum.
Thx though.
Any more suggestions, people?
What about suggesting a really nice cooked rom (or baked.. whatever.)
Also any chance of giving me a reason why you would recommend a particular rom over another?
Thx.
Someone Walkin' said:
MORE options!... are you purposely trying to give me brain melt?
I might give it a try at some point when it comes out of beta... but for the moment I'm really just going for stability and functionality.
Also you mentioned the latest radio rom.. which (if I'm correct) is the 1.15 version.. but I've read that alot of people have gone back to 1.13.... ho hum.
Thx though.
Any more suggestions, people?
What about suggesting a really nice cooked rom (or baked.. whatever.)
Also any chance of giving me a reason why you would recommend a particular rom over another?
Thx.
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Well, in case you didn't saw:
I am just one newbie here, I will receive my SX66 in 5 days, and at least, I am trying to help other persons with the stuff i know!
Patience i don't have much knowledge, but i believe it was better than not replying to you.
SandStorm said:
Well, in case you didn't saw:
I am just one newbie here, I will receive my SX66 in 5 days, and at least, I am trying to help other persons with the stuff i know!
Patience i don't have much knowledge, but i believe it was better than not replying to you.
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Heh.. I think you've missed the point of my post.. I wasn't getting at you, it was actually a thank you.
I'm learning too.
Someone Walkin' said:
Heh.. I think you've missed the point of my post.. I wasn't getting at you, it was actually a thank you.
I'm learning too.
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no problem man
I'll try the upgrade to radio 1.15, and if it don't go well, i'll change to 1.13.
Anyway, also would like to try out one WM5 release, I am thinking in one clean helmi release.
Also, i've got from one portuguese forum, some interesting files that put the 2003 SE with one graphical aspect similar to wm6. (thats one of the things i'll try.
By studying all those files, maybe one day, we can compile one rom to our needs.
Sounds interesting.. but watch you don't slow your machine down to much.. that's (and compatibility issues) my main reason for not going to new with my os.. all the pretties just bog the system down.
I will try.
also, i believe those new rom's are much faster and stable than the first ones that appeared.
Hey people.. still lookin' for recommendations.
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Hey people.. still lookin' for recommendations.
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here, the only recommendations we get is this: "screw it alone, we don't like you to do questions"
but for WM2003 there aren't big recommendations. it is already one outdated platform, and all of them are with the eyes on WM5 platform.
the last system roms are based on 1.42.xxx
SandStorm said:
here, the only recommendations we get is this: "screw it alone, we don't like you to do questions"
but for WM2003 there aren't big recommendations. it is already one outdated platform, and all of them are with the eyes on WM5 platform.
the last system roms are based on 1.42.xxx
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Szr.. I didn't see that you had replied.
The newest original rom from o2 was the 1.40.242.. I think that the 1.42 is from t-mobile.. do you know if that will work on an XDA IIs?
hi there man. my pda arrived today. i am using the system rom 1.42 and the radio 1.15. i did the upgrade today. so far so good.
in fact i am now posting this message with the blue angel.
cool.
What Pda did you get?
Glad things are going smoothly for ya... same can't be said here.
I'm having a ***** of a time trying to do anything other that transfer files or activesync when using bluetooth.... that's 6 charges I've gone through trying to get thing to work...
Ah well.. still tryin'.
SandStorm said:
hi there man. my pda arrived today. i am using the system rom 1.42 and the radio 1.15. i did the upgrade today. so far so good.
in fact i am now posting this message with the blue angel.
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SandStorm.. when you upgraded what bt driver and version did you end up with?
good! I use t-mobile 1-42 with cooked ext rom and the pda smiles me .. until the coming of Ultimate 7150...
hi! well, now I am using helmi wm5. its more stable, btw. I dunno about my bt stack. the other rom I had, was from sx66 standardization.

Where have all the good cooks went?

I am a newbie here, just joint the community not too long ago. However noted that all the good cooks went missing? Previously, every month there be a number of new roms being released? However, lately not much of new roms being released? Where have all the good cook went? Will here be a 'ghost' town especially with the forthcoming Kaiser?
Just my 2 cents of opinion?
alancstan said:
I am a newbie here, just joint the community not too long ago. However noted that all the good cooks went missing? Previously, every month there be a number of new roms being released? However, lately not much of new roms being released? Where have all the good cook went? Will here be a 'ghost' town especially with the forthcoming Kaiser?
Just my 2 cents of opinion?
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I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
esseff said:
I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
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Oooh, you'll catch hell for that one...
I think with WM6 being released, it has taken the punch out of some of the cooks fun\obsession. Also there has been several good kitchens released that allow for just about anybody to cook their own rom just how they want it. Check out the Pandora thread it's great!
I hope they reappear for the Kaiser.
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I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
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Pff...What the hell are you doing here on this forum, if you think most of us dont live a normal life, like we are all nerds or people with no life.. because most of us like to modify our phone..
Look in the miror, you will see the person with no life..
Bro Bram87,
Please don't start flamming over here.... just a discussion wil do. Everyone here loves their Hermes!
waiting for wm7...
The real reason is that the production WM6 release is very stable & fast
Some cooks are still here... We still have some Betas... That means LIFE
Err i think the cooks are here, its just all the roms out there dont really need any improvement now?
if you try a few of the latest ones, you will see you'll have very little rom related issues, so no need, to cook, and improve the roms!
fil,
Yes I do agree, the current batch of roms are very stable and fast. But however, I do find that a cook is always a cook, whereby the perfection will never take place, always challenging till the end!
my 2 cents of opinion...
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However noted that all the good cooks went missing?
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Pardon me?
I'll agree with the others... it's getting pretty difficult to improve on the Hermes ROM at this point. Working on it, though.
Aside from the facts that there are some excellent chefs still in the hermes kitchen, that the roms are probably near completition for WM6 etc - I think what drove a lot of the cooks away was a combination of the constant flaming that seems to go on in the Hermes forums - I typically find most of it pretty funny but reading through some of the other forums I am always surprised how there is nowhere near as much flaming going on. That and I think they got sick of people complaining there rom broke this or that when it was something stupid the person did and didn't follow the instructions or do a simple search for the solution. I could easily see how that could put somebody off of releasing to the public something they worked so hard to make.
Regardless of all that, there are some great chefs about - VP3g, Schapps, Duttythroy, Dutty (I think still puts out roms), JasJamming (though he doesn't realse them here any more - somebody usually post a link when he does). If I forgot to mention you or butchered the spelling of your name - sorry - not intentional
I think the cooks on here are doing an excellent job! the problem is Microsoft now is starting to do some sh** right and making a fast rom for our phone. I've tried every rom on xda that I could find at least once to test them. It's just getting harder for the cooks to cook better roms when they are working with the software that is released and taking their time to help us.
Just remember its like the military the stuff they've have for 10 years is just new to citizens. its kinda similar with wm6 just give em time and until then enjoy the awesome roms that we have!!!!
.... or you could build your own if your that risky.

Dump of ROM 1.39.**.*** WWE

Guys / Girls / (Losers who try and stop others from using their work)
Here is a DUMP folder of the 1.39.****** ROM
Thanks goes out to the diamond project for trying ever so hard to prevent others from using their work as a base.
Have Fun!!
XIP will be uploaded next.
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thanks for that, but I really am hanging out for Elite 2.5
Thanks Walshieau for the dump
Where did you get this from?
Oh, and yes I'd also like to say I'm hanging out for Elite 2.5 as well...
salada2k said:
Thanks Walshieau for the dump
Where did you get this from?
Oh, and yes I'd also like to say I'm hanging out for Elite 2.5 as well...
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i ripped it off the Diamond Project Team. Seeing as they dont feel like sharing the original (which is ok, it will be released by HTC next month) so i thought id try and help the "community" out.
Hey Walshieau; thanks for the dump.. seeing as it comes directly from the Diamond Project Team ROM, does that mean that it also has missing TF3D animations? (i.e. as there were alot of transition effects/animations that were removed from the DPT ROM). Cheers.
Huey85 said:
Hey Walshieau; thanks for the dump.. seeing as it comes directly from the Diamond Project Team ROM, does that mean that it also has missing TF3D animations? (i.e. as there were alot of transition effects/animations that were removed from the DPT ROM). Cheers.
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its a direct DUMP of that ROM, they also try todo tricky **** like merging ALL packages into one etc but meh, you guys now have the dump folder.
walshieau said:
i ripped it off the Diamond Project Team. Seeing as they dont feel like sharing the original (which is ok, it will be released by HTC next month) so i thought id try and help the "community" out.
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Thanks a lot mate
Thanks
Thank walshieau, this will be useful for building my own PERSONAL rom which I've always done for years..... I did notice all the extra pieces of protection they had put in which to be honest is there choice and I can respect it in a way although protecting base rom's is something relatively new.
However the really sticking point with me is there's a whole thread on here about changing the graphics on the touchflo plug-in which no one from the "Diamond Project Team" as donated any information to even though we can cleary see they have achieved this with their V1 rom which is a real shame. Maybe they choose to do this to give there roms the edge?
Please please don’t take my comments the wrong way I’m really not trying to flame ANYONE out there, I’m just posting my personal opinions as I rush back to behind my fire proof shield J lol
ratcom said:
Thank walshieau, this will be useful for building my own PERSONAL rom which I've always done for years..... I did notice all the extra pieces of protection they had put in which to be honest is there choice and I can respect it in a way although protecting base rom's is something relatively new.
However the really sticking point with me is there's a whole thread on here about changing the graphics on the touchflo plug-in which no one from the "Diamond Project Team" as donated any information to even though we can cleary see they have achieved this with their V1 rom which is a real shame. Maybe they choose to do this to give there roms the edge?
Please please don’t take my comments the wrong way I’m really not trying to flame ANYONE out there, I’m just posting my personal opinions as I rush back to behind my fire proof shield J lol
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the effects are "Action Scripts"... I dont care for these "protections", i dont see why, we are all part of the same community. But meh.
Yes, all this protection stuff got really bad... anyway, I'm inversing so much time to patch dll's of my ROMs that I don't want other to use it, so I made sure it is not possible that easy, sorry...
But protecting the base ROM is not one of my interest, so I'll try to upload the 1.93 OS this evening.
bepe said:
Yes, all this protection stuff got really bad... anyway, I'm inversing so much time to patch dll's of my ROMs that I don't want other to use it, so I made sure it is not possible that easy, sorry...
But protecting the base ROM is not one of my interest, so I'll try to upload the 1.93 OS this evening.
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you should know i have no intention in removing the protection on your ROM's bepe
but yes i know you put alot of time and effort into your ROMs
Well I don't know about the rest of you but I think this protection attitude STINKS.
As at the end of the day I will refuse to use any such ROM. And I really don't care as there will be others such as Walshieau that make quality stuff and I will wait for that. The new graphics in TouchFLO 3D look nice, but I'm not supporting their 'ways'... It's really ****ing disappointing actually... The community is meant to be about SHARING, just give credit where credit is due!!! That's always the way it has worked. After all, the innovators are always a step ahead, so what are they actually worried about??? Who cares if someone rips off the new graphics? Everybody knows who is responsible for the original product anyway... This is ****ing retarded.
Personally I only need base rom. I understand that you work hard to improve your version. All of us would be greatfull for upload.
thx in advance
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Well I don't know about the rest of you but I think this protection attitude STINKS.
As at the end of the day I will refuse to use any such ROM. And I really don't care as there will be others such as Walshieau that make quality stuff and I will wait for that. The new graphics in TouchFLO 3D look nice, but I'm not supporting their 'ways'... It's really ****ing disappointing actually... The community is meant to be about SHARING, just give credit where credit is due!!! That's always the way it has worked. After all, the innovators are always a step ahead, so what are they actually worried about??? Who cares if someone rips off the new graphics? Everybody knows who is responsible for the original product anyway... This is ****ing retarded.
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hence why i do what i do with help from some un-named sources.
ok, no need to release it anymore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408281
tom was faster
bepe said:
ok, no need to release it anymore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408281
tom was faster
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haha yeah just saw that...
bepe said:
ok, no need to release it anymore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408281
tom was faster
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can u relase the 20270 build for porting to other devices bepe ?
Personally it seems daft to add protection to a cooked rom but I also appreciate the time and effort these guys put into their work, then someone else comes along and rips it off. So, I can understand people want to protect their work. BUT holding back on base ROMs just doesn´t make any sense... it helps all of us here in the community to have what we all want... a better working device. Cheers to walshieau for having the balls to bring this up and thanks in advance to bepe for the base ROM
or TOM
htctouchp said:
can u relase the 20270 build for porting to other devices bepe ?
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It is not my build, got it from DF... they are about to release it.
If I'm not wrong there is a free SYS and XIP already
bepe said:
It is not my build, got it from DF... they are about to release it.
If I'm not wrong there is a free SYS and XIP already
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ok. but it would be better if we can port from an original source, like a shipped ROM released by tom, rather than an already ported one like hermes or kaiser.

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