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unable to update hx4700 2003 - MW6 using Bootloader!

I've read good reviews on chrismrulz's bootlaoder programe and I'm trying to use it to update my iPAQ 4700 from 2003 to WM6. However I am obviously doing something wrong as I just cannot get it to work!
Please can anyone offer any advice?
I hope I am following the exact instructions as mentioned here at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325727
and here is what is happening:
Step 1.
Make new folder in root directory.
No Problem c:\Bootloader set up.
Step 2.
Download WM6 ROM and bootloader into file.
Done as directed from links in instructions directly into new folder.
Checked and c:\Bootloader now has 2 files in it Bootloader.exe and WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar
Step 3.
Put hx4700 in bootloader mode and place in sync cradle.
I assume I have done this correctly. Screen goes blank and you can just make out the HP logo it says USB when in cradle and shows version 1.01
Step 4.
Open bootloader and select image.
Ok I go to folder and double click on Bootloader.exe
I get a security warning about the software and ignor by pressing run.
2 things now happen simutaniously. Bootloader.exe expands and creates c:\Bootloader\Bootloader and fills it with more files and directories and....
I get a box asking me to select a file to flash ROM to my device. I change the directory back to C:\Bootloader and select WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar and press open.
I get a message telling me to please wait the file is being extracted and inviting me to press ok. Before I can press ok the box is replaced with a winRAR Diagonistic Message saying c:\Bootloader\WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar no files to extract.
I close this dialog box and get another message telling me to wait whilst it edits files. Then this in turn is replaced by a message saying Error reading file c:\Bootloader\Bootloader\temp_nbf\ I click on OK to acknowledge.
And that’s it nothing else happens.
I've obviously read the instructions wrong or something can anyone help point me in the right direction? Or offer any alternatives?
I'm using Active Sync 3.7.1
Thanks
Phil

Open the rar file (with WinRar), and read the instructions that are in the Readme.txt file... And update your Activesync to version 4.5, which is needed for WM6.

Excellent,
Thank you Ridolfo, so much easier than what I was trying to do. I now have WM6 working and am very pleased with it.
One problem i now have is Activesync 4.5 will not work with my Outlook 2002 I dont suppose anyone knows a workaround or do I have to buy a copy of Outlook 2007?

Phil3099 said:
Excellent,
Thank you Ridolfo, so much easier than what I was trying to do. I now have WM6 working and am very pleased with it.
One problem i now have is Activesync 4.5 will not work with my Outlook 2002 I dont suppose anyone knows a workaround or do I have to buy a copy of Outlook 2007?
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Very strange indeed, my AS works fine with OL2002... Did you use the MS Office Update to get the latest servicepacks for OL ?
Dirk

Outlook 2002 now ok. I was havinag a bad day yesterday. Now if I can just find a way of viewing java enabled web pages I will be happy

Phil3099 said:
Outlook 2002 now ok. I was havinag a bad day yesterday. Now if I can just find a way of viewing java enabled web pages I will be happy
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Try these .....
First install JBed, then Opera
Cheers
Dirk

Hi Dirlan,
Thank you for the files. I was already experimenting with Opera so I deleted it from my iPAQ loaded Cloudyfa_EsmertecJbed.cab and then reinstalled Opera.
Unfortunately I get an error message from Jbed saying "the file jbed cannot be opened. Either it is not signed or one of its components cannot be found.
Any ideas?
Phil

After extracting using WinRAR

Trying to upgrade from 2003 to WM6 ...
After extracting WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar using WinRAR I am trying to follow the instructions in the readme.txt (as Bootloader didn't work for me as in the first post in this thread):
From readme.txt
To begin with if you want to flash your device using cradle,you have to:
1.In processes (CTRL+ALT+DEL) you must kill Wcesscom.exe
2.Then Enter in Bootloader (Contacts+iTask+Reset)
3.Put your device on usb cradle.
4.Run mtty11a.exe
5.In "Port" choose \\.\WCEUSBSH001 and click OK
6.Write command: lnb OS_WM6.nb0
7.Wait
8.Enjoy yourself
As I'm not all that familiar with this can someone explain in step-by-step what's involved with the mtty11a.exe application, and Step 6?
Currently my hx4700 is what I think in bootloader mode (Screen is dim an I can barely make out "USB" the hp logo and the current version "v1.01"). I previously tried the original WM5 upgrade and it just dies on me at 0.1%.

Hi tk2000
As I posted the original post I know exactly what you are going through. However once I went through the instructions you are currently trying to use every thing went smoothly. You have extracted the .rar file and are unsure of the mtty11a.exe file.
Assuming you have you have killed Wcesscom.exe on your pc as in step 1,
and the device in in its cradle in bootloader mode (as you described very faint HP logo, USB and version 1.01 displayed).
Then double click on the mtty11a.exe as in step 4. This then brings up an application and you will see a dropdown menu next to port, simply select the option \\.\WCEUSBSH001 and click ok.
6.Write command: lnb OS_WM6.nb0 now this stage I was a little unsure of myself I simply typed "lnb OS_WM6.nb0" in from the keyboard and pressed enter and it started to load. This takes a few minutes but afterwards you should have WM6 on your device.
I had to do a couple of hardware restarts and it took a few minutes in its cradle but it all works fine for me.

Phil3099 said:
Hi Dirlan,
Thank you for the files. I was already experimenting with Opera so I deleted it from my iPAQ loaded Cloudyfa_EsmertecJbed.cab and then reinstalled Opera.
Unfortunately I get an error message from Jbed saying "the file jbed cannot be opened. Either it is not signed or one of its components cannot be found.
Any ideas?
Phil
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Hi Phil,
There should be an 'opera-unsigned*.cab' somewhere here on the forum. I didn't try it because Opera works fine for me.
Sorry
Dirk

Phil3099, I a followed the instructions exactly but I don't see a status bar on the pda. mtty showes the progress with lines of + but the 4700 stays on the hp logo screen with USB on top.

photo contacts pro

where can i download photo contacts pro 5 from. I would love to have this!!!!!

Here you go

when i try and use the file i get a error message. Is there a cab file for it

What cab are you looking for exactly?

1/26/08 said:
when i try and use the file i get a error message. Is there a cab file for it
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Haha extract it to your computer and then drag it to your phone because thats a .zip file and your phone does not recognize a .zip file.

ok we i try to install and rin the file on my phone it gives me a message sayn (photocontactpro sp v40 signed is not a valid windows ce application)

ummm let me try to see whats wrong with it.

1/26/08 said:
ok we i try to install and rin the file on my phone it gives me a message sayn (photocontactpro sp v40 signed is not a valid windows ce application)
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Download this and see if this will work ok. http://rs117.rapidshare.com/files/54653658/photocontactsprov507l.zip

i get the same message

Umm try to run it from the computer and see what happens.

it runs the file jz fine

oh ok so did you get it working then?

not on my fone is there a way i can get diz in a cab file?

1/26/08 said:
not on my fone is there a way i can get diz in a cab file?
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ummm I am not sure, I know that a .cab file would solve everything.

yeah it really would. well thankz alot!! for your help in time if you find something out jz let me know

Just so you all know programs like these use your computer to install the program.
Make sure your phone is connected using a usb cord and it'll install it.

you might need to App Unlocl your phone. goto: mobile.surrealnetworks.com and click on applications for Dash. there is one or two programs that will unlock your phone to allow various programs to be installed. that might do the trick. someone correct me if im wrong.
...just my $.02

sunday247 said:
you might need to App Unlocl your phone. goto: mobile.surrealnetworks.com and click on applications for Dash. there is one or two programs that will unlock your phone to allow various programs to be installed. that might do the trick. someone correct me if im wrong.
...just my $.02
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Yea or here are the files to app unlock install the first one and then second one.

Newbie: Photo Contacts Pro 5 info
Hi All,
I am a newcomer to this forum and let me tell you that you guys do a great job with coming up with information and guidelines on Excalibur software so I have to give you applause for that. Does anybody have any info on this? I have the demo and it seems like it is a good application.
Thanks

I loathe photo contacts pro 5..... version 4.03 was and is the best one for the excalibur. my reasoning? after 4.03 the program doesn't run in the background. It shows up in task managers and is easly closed which defeats the purpose of having the program. It also takes up more memory and is even more laggy then version 5. if you can find a version 4.03 i highly recommend you try it.

Unable to download attachments ???

When I click an attachment my download manager kicks in, but downloads a php file. I use firefox but this also happens using IE. Any suggestions?

big_cheez said:
When I click an attachment my download manager kicks in, but downloads a php file. I use firefox but this also happens using IE. Any suggestions?
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I suspect that vBulletin does not support the Download manager.
Sorry, you'll have to do it the old fassion way.
No attachment on this site is bigger 8MB anyway.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
I suspect that vBulletin does not support the Download manager.
Sorry, you'll have to do it the old fassion way.
No attachment on this site is bigger 8MB anyway.
Ta
Dave
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I was actually referring to firefox's builtin download manager, but before I replied I tried disabling the external download manager and let the browser handle it alone. Before this I would just hit cancel when the external manager kicked in and thought the I would get the same reaction from the browser. Something got lost in passing the argument to the browser. After disabling the manager, firefox downloaded just fine.
Well, everything is fine with the world now. Something so simple ... geeez, and I call my self a computer geek?

Just as an additional info, accelerators like IDM will work fine but DAP wont parse the php correctly.

It happened to me before, what i found was that it installed plugins in firefox so i disabled those and it workes fine now

I'm getting the same problem, but I don't use a download manager. I've tried Firefox and IE7 (both under Windows XP) and both see the link as a 1x1 Gif Image.
I've never come across this before so any assistance would be most welcome.
Thank you

Get Chrome

I have downloaded and installed Chrome, but I still get the same result, the attachment is seen as a Gif.
I am trying to download "lokiwiz03a.zip" from THIS link. Is there an alternative source for this without having to trawl through the various File sharing sites who could have added who knows what to the package?
Again, thank you for the help.

Bartlesby said:
I have downloaded and installed Chrome, but I still get the same result, the attachment is seen as a Gif.
I am trying to download "lokiwiz03a.zip" from THIS link. Is there an alternative source for this without having to trawl through the various File sharing sites who could have added who knows what to the package?
Again, thank you for the help.
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if its a .zip, then im assuming you use winrar to open it?
If this is true, then download the file to the desktop, then right click it and select "Open With..."
Look around for "Winrar" and then select it, Then make sure "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file."
I hope i helped you, if not... Send me a PM (For faster communication)

I think you can't download the file because the file does not exist anymore. I also tried to download lokiwiz with the very same result. The 1x1 Pixel is the only thing you get. Maybe the link is just dead or the file has been moved...

EDIT; the download link doesn't even work....

thank you
That was realy helpful, thanx.
Maybe you know where I can download some ROMs too.
I need an english (or german) ROM for a Qtec 9100. I've tried the links on this site but these links seem to be dead (I allready posted that in another thread).
Maybe you can help me out here too.
Shetem

Really?
DhaMajoR said:
EDIT; the download link doesn't even work....
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I tried Chrome, IE 7, IE 8, IE 8 x64, lynx and links (Vista x64 and Linux) and always a blank page.
Maybe we could have a better page, like this file does not exist anymore or something like that...

How install .NET 3.5 on the HD?

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but a forum search revealed nothing...
How do I install .NET 3.5 on my Touch HD?
I have installed Advanced Congif , and it tells me i need to install .NET in order for it to work.
I downloaded the .net redistributable file from the MS website (filename is NETCFSetupv35.msi), but when I try to run it on my HD as I would with a .cab file, it tells me there's no associated program to run it.
I guess it has to be installed some other way (through ActiveSync maybe?), but I don't know.
Any helpful soul out there care to put me out of my misery?
Cheers in advance
Pete

Yes it has to be done through Activesync.

run it on your pc, and it will install on your device (or next time you connect if you're not connected when you run it)

It says on the microsoft download page...:
This package uses ActiveSync 4.0 to update the device. Before running NETCFSetupv35.msi, connect your device to your PC. If your device is not connected, ActiveSync will store the CAB file and will not install the package until you connect. If you are not using ActiveSync, run the CAB files on the device that correspond to the device–specific CAB files found in the install folder.
and
Instructions
Click the Download button on this page to start the download, or choose a different language from the drop-down list and click Change.
Do one of the following:
To start the installation immediately, click Open or Run this program from its current location.
To copy the download to your computer for installation at a later time, click Save or Save this program to disk.
...

Use a CAB
myearwood173 said:
Yes it has to be done through Activesync.
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I did not use ActiveSync to install it. I can't remember where I found it, but it has some kind of "Microsofts digital signature", so I think it's the right one...
Link:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/1/1983933/Microsoft_.NET_CF_3.5.CAB

Thanks!
Thanks guys,
sorted, using the .cab (couldn't work out how to do it with Activesync).

Can't install :-(
Nooo! I have a problem...
I had some trouble with .NET CF 3.5, and then I wanted to reinstall it, but when I uninstalled it, and then tried to install it again, it didn't work.
It doesn't work through ActiveSync AND the cab. Do anyone know whats wrong here, or do I need to start a new thread?

Is your ActiveSyns up to date? And did you download the file from the mircosoftsite? I reïnstalled the file yesterday..

hanjoster said:
Is your ActiveSyns up to date? And did you download the file from the mircosoftsite? I reïnstalled the file yesterday..
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My ActiveSync is okay, and the cab is from the microsoft site...
EDIT:I think something is wrong with my phone, but I don't want to do a Hard reset.

Installed no problem if you use your PC to get the CAB just pop in onto the memory card, bung it in your phone and using file explorer locate file and install onto your device. Easeeee
Even easier would be to use PIE and visit this site/thread and follow the link to download directly onto phone then do above in File Explorer
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...NET_CF_3.5.CAB
Thanks clb92

clb92 said:
I did not use ActiveSync to install it. I can't remember where I found it, but it has some kind of "Microsofts digital signature", so I think it's the right one...
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Thank you! Worked like a charm!

.NET 3.5 cab
bro,
.NET 3.5 is available as cab for direct installation on to your phone. Copy in to your phone / storage card and install in phone memory. I have installed on my HD stock rom and works fine. Here it is .... hope this will help, this is my first response to a mail and hope what i do is right. thanks Dr Shaheed

Installation of cab files throws errors

Hi. I just recently purchased an HTC Touch Pro2 from T-Mobile running WinMo 6.5. That being said, I have not been able to open any cab files on the device to install some software. Basically I'll transfer the cab to the device and attempt to open it. I get one of three messages depending on the app I guess. the most basic is "Installation was unsuccessful" to "Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting...not digitally signed...trusted certificate" (this was from MobileFTPClient). Installing Opera Mini 5 gives a simple: "Installation of mini5wm.cab was unsuccessful".
Ok, so being a software developer for 10 years I've been looking into some registry values and can't seem to find what I need to get anything to install. If I download from the Windows Marketplace that's all good, but nothing else.
What do I need to do to be able to install cab flils directly? Honestly if I can't get this to work this phone is going back. I moved from an iPhone to this phone specifically so I can install apps and monkey around with the device, but so far I'm done before I started.
Thanks for any info you can give me.

its in one of your phone/device settings to let u download and install apps or cabs not digitally signed. thats all, i believe. just find it and check it off. or look for advanced config cab if u can find it and install that. it has an option in there also to let u download/install whatever..

mullethunter said:
Hi. I just recently purchased an HTC Touch Pro2 from T-Mobile running WinMo 6.5. That being said, I have not been able to open any cab files on the device to install some software. Basically I'll transfer the cab to the device and attempt to open it. I get one of three messages depending on the app I guess. the most basic is "Installation was unsuccessful" to "Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting...not digitally signed...trusted certificate" (this was from MobileFTPClient). Installing Opera Mini 5 gives a simple: "Installation of mini5wm.cab was unsuccessful".
Ok, so being a software developer for 10 years I've been looking into some registry values and can't seem to find what I need to get anything to install. If I download from the Windows Marketplace that's all good, but nothing else.
What do I need to do to be able to install cab flils directly? Honestly if I can't get this to work this phone is going back. I moved from an iPhone to this phone specifically so I can install apps and monkey around with the device, but so far I'm done before I started.
Thanks for any info you can give me.
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The cab I have attached may help you...it's some SDK certificates that will allow installation of certain unsigned apps, but I don't know if this is what the ones you're running are requiring and missing. It won't harm anything to try this one, and you can easily uninstall it if it doesn't do the trick

Thanks guys. Sirphunkee - that cab actually installed, but I'm having the same problem. Another forum has suggested that I take the device back to T-Mobile, but it just seems like there's a setting that's not right in the OS. Demandarin - I've looked for various security permissions in the UI with no luck. I've mucked around with some Policy values in the registry per some threads on this forum, but still nothing.
I'll keep trying, and thanks.

So...weird; Opera Mini and Weather Bug (well known apps) wouldn't install, but an SMS notification disable cab installed (from the xda site) as did Evernote (evernote.com). I have no clue what the deal is, but it's getting beyond stupid that I can't install just any cab file.

mullethunter said:
So...weird; Opera Mini and Weather Bug (well known apps) wouldn't install, but an SMS notification disable cab installed (from the xda site) as did Evernote (evernote.com). I have no clue what the deal is, but it's getting beyond stupid that I can't install just any cab file.
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Have you already installed .Net 3.5? It's a framework that many other programs use (and need) to install, and it's not on the TP2 by default...it's the only other think I could think of that would keep you from installing stuff. Cab is attached, if you don't have it already.

Got it. I installed the Device Security Manager PowerToy and was able to change the configuration there. Opera Mini 5 just installed.
Never would have thought the phone would come that locked down, but so far so good. Thanks for all of the ideas.

mullethunter said:
Got it. I installed the Device Security Manager PowerToy and was able to change the configuration there. Opera Mini 5 just installed.
Never would have thought the phone would come that locked down, but so far so good. Thanks for all of the ideas.
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Well yeah what's weird is that I never had to use that to get any of those apps installed