Orbit locked by O2 - long story - P3300, MDA Compact III General

Hey guys,
Im a bit of a newb here so dunno if this'll make sense or or anyone could help me.
Bout 2 weeks ago i lost my xda Orbit, next day i phoned O2 and they put a block on the phone (which i originally thought meant they'd just blocked the sim card). Anyway, i claimed on my insurance and got a new one sent through the post. All comes through the next day and all is good.
Bout 3 days ago, i found the 'lost' Orbit round a friends house. Tried putting my ism card in the old phone and it wont connect to the network. It switches on fine and i can use all the programs but cannot make any outgoing or recieve incoming calls/texts.
Anyone have any idea about how i can unlock this phone? or do i need to ring O2 and get the to do it?
Any help would be extremely appreciated.
Sorry if this has already been posted before, but i couldnt find a topic with the same problem im having

Call O2 but your phone is black listed could take several days to remove the listing had a similar issue

you should also consider that since you claimed on the insurance, the phone now belongs to the insurance company.

Either you can contact O2 or wait for a free unlocker and use the phone with another provider,in case they have'nt blacklisted your imei number.

Noob or not?
No offence but did you really think that you could ask such a loaded question without sounding any alarm bells.
You should already know how it works, even if it's just by using common sense; if it's lost it's lost - you can't just accept your insurance funded replacement and then magically have two Orbits.
Why do you think they blacklist and bar IMEI's in the first place?
Either declare the find and send the replacement back and wait many days for normal service to resume, forget you found it and move on or waste your life trying to get the 'PDA', to function as a phone again... or, If your trying to screw a free mobile for nothing, just come out with it.
The truth is; by the time you are able to reuse the 'lost' Orbit it will be worth more as an antique. If you want a second Orbit buy one off ebay and stop wasting time.
Apologies if you're just young and daft.
Ste.

Sorry mate, im 23, young and daft I think not. The story is 100% genuine. I have a new Orbit now, was just curious as my brother has my old XDA MINI S and I just said to him if I could get the old Orbit working then he could have it.
Ive never lost a phone before in my life, so didnt realise the bar the IMEI number or whatever.
Just asked a simple question, just needed a simple answer. Not to be told that I was young and daft.
Anyway ive since spoken to 02, and I can have the phone unlocked in-store for £30
(will a mod please lock this thread as all questions were answered, ta very much!)

You declare your phone lost, made an insurance claim, get a new phone, unlock the old phone for £30. So, you got a new phone for £30 ? Is that a loophole to be exploited?

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Sorry mate, im 23, young and daft I think not.
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Nope, just young and a criminal.
Your insurance company paid for a replacement - therefore the original handset (which you just "found") is their property. By trying to use it yourself, you are a thief. In fact, you steal from all of us here on the forum, as the losses which the insurance and phone companies sustain are passed on to us as increased tariffs and costs.
The forum rules (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545) forbid Piracy. Perhaps they should also forbid blatantly illegal acts such as what you are proposing.

Yeah so basically as everyone else as just stated you really want to get a stolen phone unbarred.
Come clean no matter how you dress it up that is what you want.
who is your insurance with because I think that you will find that if they did unlock the phone at o2 they would probably inform the insurance firm.
so you could end up with your old phone back and the shiny replacement 'lost' forever

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T-Mobile = Horrible customer service??!?!?

I've heard the rumors... T-Mo's customer service is legendary. They're the best in the game. Everyone says so!!
Rewind: October 2007. I was a Sprint customer. After 3 years of hell with Nextel, no service in Rhode Island, replacement phones, billing errors, and long wait times, I became an ex-Spring customer when I threatened to leave Sprint for T-mobile, and the customer service SUPERVISOR said to me "You do what you have to do..." *click* and hung up on me. So I did just that... I walked into a t-mobile store and bought a wing.
Fast-forward: Today. It's now 6 months later. I've had 3 warranty replacements on the Wing, then (because I was fed up with the wing) I asked for an alternate model. They told me the only other "multiple exchange" model was the Dash. So they sent me a dash (which I can't figure out because it's cheaper). That was 3 weeks ago. Today, I noticed a bunch of white lines on my screen (see my other post for a screen shot).
I just got off the phone with T-mobile. They confirmed that this is a problem with the Dash, and the brackets holding the screen apparently break for no reason at all, causing this problem. It can happen for any or no reason at all. Well, the wing might be slow and lock up and reboot itself when it wants (though I fault t-mobile's ****ty software for that) but at least it kept it's screen in tact.
So I told them I wanted a wing back. They refused, because I did not qualify for the multiple exchange, since it was only my first dash. I told them I needed a phone that DIDN'T lose it's screen at random, so I wanted the Wing back (which is what I originally paid $300 for) and they said no, because that only applies if I had 2 or more defective dash's. What the hell is wrong with this company!?!? They can't send me a Blackberry Curve (even though it's the EXACT same price as the Wing), they can't send me ANYTHING, not even a basic phone. They said if I wanted the wing now, it would cost me $400!!!
Now, looking back at Sprint, with their new CEO (who has vowed to clean up customer service) and their newest plan (simply everything), and the coolest phone I've ever seen (the Sprint "Touch") I think I'm going to pay the early termination $200 fee and switch back to sprint when I get my $600.00 economic stimulus check from the government in May, and I told the t-mobile guy that too. He said "Well, sorry to hear that, but there's nothing we can do for you..." <-- What the hell is that??? What happened to customer service? I left Sprint because they sucked, and now they're getting better and T-Mobile sucks.
Looks like I picked a bad time to leave Sprint and an even worse time to join T-Mobile.
WARNING TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT SWITCHING TO T-MOBILE OR BUYING A PDA FROM T-MOBILE: DON'T do it!!! If it's a bad model, you'll be stuck with it!!
I am SICK of getting new phones every month in the mail. It takes me about 6 hours to get my phone looking & acting the way it should. I have to flash the ROM, copy pim.vol, change the theme, remove the stupid "callstart.wav" file, hack the **** out of the registry, and set up email, internet connections, and everything else. I've wasted countless days of my life doing this.
I've reached the end of my tether. I hope a perspective T-mobile customer reads this and it helps them decide to NOT go to T-mobile. Likewise, I hope a higher-up at T-mobile reads this and gets the message.
LMFAO Dude grow up.
SpringfieldXD45C said:
I've heard the rumors... T-Mo's customer service is legendary. They're the best in the game. Everyone says so!!
Rewind: October 2007. I was a Sprint customer. After 3 years of hell with Nextel, no service in Rhode Island, replacement phones, billing errors, and long wait times, I became an ex-Spring customer when I threatened to leave Sprint for T-mobile, and the customer service SUPERVISOR said to me "You do what you have to do..." *click* and hung up on me. So I did just that... I walked into a t-mobile store and bought a wing.
Fast-forward: Today. It's now 6 months later. I've had 3 warranty replacements on the Wing, then (because I was fed up with the wing) I asked for an alternate model. They told me the only other "multiple exchange" model was the Dash. So they sent me a dash (which I can't figure out because it's cheaper). That was 3 weeks ago. Today, I noticed a bunch of white lines on my screen (see my other post for a screen shot).
I just got off the phone with T-mobile. They confirmed that this is a problem with the Dash, and the brackets holding the screen apparently break for no reason at all, causing this problem. It can happen for any or no reason at all. Well, the wing might be slow and lock up and reboot itself when it wants (though I fault t-mobile's ****ty software for that) but at least it kept it's screen in tact.
So I told them I wanted a wing back. They refused, because I did not qualify for the multiple exchange, since it was only my first dash. I told them I needed a phone that DIDN'T lose it's screen at random, so I wanted the Wing back (which is what I originally paid $300 for) and they said no, because that only applies if I had 2 or more defective dash's. What the hell is wrong with this company!?!? They can't send me a Blackberry Curve (even though it's the EXACT same price as the Wing), they can't send me ANYTHING, not even a basic phone. They said if I wanted the wing now, it would cost me $400!!!
Now, looking back at Sprint, with their new CEO (who has vowed to clean up customer service) and their newest plan (simply everything), and the coolest phone I've ever seen (the Sprint "Touch") I think I'm going to pay the early termination $200 fee and switch back to sprint when I get my $600.00 economic stimulus check from the government in May, and I told the t-mobile guy that too. He said "Well, sorry to hear that, but there's nothing we can do for you..." <-- What the hell is that??? What happened to customer service? I left Sprint because they sucked, and now they're getting better and T-Mobile sucks.
Looks like I picked a bad time to leave Sprint and an even worse time to join T-Mobile.
WARNING TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT SWITCHING TO T-MOBILE OR BUYING A PDA FROM T-MOBILE: DON'T do it!!! If it's a bad model, you'll be stuck with it!!
I am SICK of getting new phones every month in the mail. It takes me about 6 hours to get my phone looking & acting the way it should. I have to flash the ROM, copy pim.vol, change the theme, remove the stupid "callstart.wav" file, hack the **** out of the registry, and set up email, internet connections, and everything else. I've wasted countless days of my life doing this.
I've reached the end of my tether. I hope a perspective T-mobile customer reads this and it helps them decide to NOT go to T-mobile. Likewise, I hope a higher-up at T-mobile reads this and gets the message.
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Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today! I for one would never EVER go to sprint. I don't care how much 3g or EV-DO they have...I used to be work for sprints technical support desk and i absolutely hated it! all they cared was for you to get off the phone as quickly as you could try to sell some add-on crap that you didnt need... retrigger the IOTA (internet over the air refresh) and get off the phone ASAP! and the reson why the tech do this is they dont get a bonus if they dont have an average call time under 7 minutes! i went to work for them thinking it was a technical job and all it was , was a front for over the phone sales! i was only there for 8 months and i hit the door as soon as the opportunity arose.
Maybe its you, not the phones. Ever think about that.
T-Mobile is not here to exchange any phone "YOU" decide to mod, drop, throw, dunk,etc.
They have a limit on how many, per customer, can get an exchange.
There is a thing called insurance you can buy from them, for this specific reason.
Pay up to keep getting a new phone every 4-6 months.
And see, I am the exact opposite of what the first poster said, I am a current SunCom Wireless customer, who was just bought out by T-Mobile, and I have had nothing but good things from TM's customer service. I called them about getting a Wing, and if they would provide me with a TM SIM card that would work with my SunCom plan....which wont work of course, so instead they say-"Hold on one moment and let me look at your account...(so I give em my account number, a SUNCOM account number mind you)and the dude comes back and says, well with your anytime rewards(basically 5USD off of a new phone that yoy get for every month you stay with SunCom), you can get a Wing for 249.99, and we will go ahead and SIM unlock it for you before we ship it, so that you can use it with SunCom. Then when SunCom and TM become one company, we will send you a TM SIM card(because thats what they are doing with everybody) and you will still be able to use your SunCom services and current billing prices." So of course I say hell yeah, and give the guy my debit card number, and he comes back and says, "Oh, and you also qualify for free next day air!" so hell yeah, I do LOVE TMs customer service already, and im not even one of their customers yet! BTW, teh Wing=AWESOME!
I sort of had a similar experience.
I had a Shadow, and did not like it, I really wanted the Dash to begin with..
I called and asked to send the Shadow back, and that was fine, but they wanted me to pay $200 upfront.
After thinking about it, I said no.
Called back asked for a supervisor, who immediately called the proper department, got my phone sent out FREE, gave me the rebate instantly, and also sent me a free bluetooth headset.
I have no problem with T-mobile, but if you do, call back and ask for a supervisor.
I LUV me dash and I think that Tmobile is probably the best mobile phone company. Hell they didn't ever try to sell up, but they did help me downgrade my plan with courtesy and respect and no additional months on my contract.
As to your problems with the Dash, I am sorry I would still get another. Even great products have some problems with them. I have had my Dash for over a year and couldn't possibly be more pleased. I keep it in a case and it is in pristine condition. My contract is over and I really would like a 3g device but there isn't anything I would like more than the dash out there. Especially with google's web page compression and the opera mini.
I work at IT at a hospital and most...no every smartphone has KNOWN problems with them. Please don't ask about getting a TREO..... You won't see known issues broadcast anywhere unless you are an major enterprise client. Cellular companies don't usually ever mention problems to nickel and dime clients.
My sister has major problems keeping a working cellphone for more than 4 months since they stopped making them large plasic bricks in the 90's. She has had her Dash for over a year as well. It has a large crack in the screen (no actual harm just a large crack). Various large gashes and the power button has to be pushed extra hard but it's still workin! So if you ask me it is a brick.
Tmobile is different. They only have edge no 3g at all that is a dealbreaker with enterprise clients. They only have nickel and dime clients. I think in general Tmobile have to be nice to their personal clients and they are. Just don't put a pink logo on your website!
Allright... for those of you telling me to "Grow up" and "Maybe it's not T-mobile, it's you" First of all, I'd like to remind you that I'm at least being polite to you. See, I reply to topics to give USEFUL information, not scathing remarks. That makes for somethign we like to call "a pleasant atmosphere". Perhaps you've never heard of that before. So how about YOU grow up? Thanks
I'd also like to point out that "I" am hardly the reason for the following WING issues:
Phone #1: Random reboots, battery lasted for 2 hours max, touch screen would stop working, and only come back after a reboot.
Phone #2: Extremely slow (timed: 34 seconds for the start menu to appear after pushing the start button.. OUT OF THE BOX), random reboots.
Phone #3: Internet would not work at all. On the phone with PDA Tech support who walked me through everything he wanted me to do, then finally HE suggested replacing the phone.
Phone #4: Would not power on at all.
Phone #5: The dash: Everything is working fine. Today, while sitting on my desk (e.g. not being dropped, submersed, etc.) a bunch of white lines appear on my screen. A member of this board said he had the same problem, and even T-Mobile said it was a known issue...
I'm sorry, but please explain to me HOW that is "me" and not t-mobile!??! You've obviously proven to me what great intelligence you have by demonstrating your innate, Jedi-like ability to sit at a keyboard and say "Dude, grow up" and "Maybe it's you not t-mobile" So please explain, Captain SDA... I eagerly await your solution to "my" problems with these "perfect" phones.
My mom once told me "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". Clearly your moms never told you that, Perhaps you should ask YOUR mom for that same advice. Judging by your superior online personalities, that shouldn't be too hard: Just leave your basement and walk upstairs. I'm sorry you don't understand the value of a dollar, and the fact that I have now spent $300 on a phone that doesn't work, and I religiously pay my bill for a service I can barely use. I'm sorry that upsets me. You're right, I shouldn't complain about that.
*** sigh ***
For the rest of you: Thanks for the advice about going back to sprint. The only reason I'm even thinking about it right now is because of all the good things I heard about the new CEO and the changes he's making, and I'm excited about the Samsung Instinct as well as the Sprint HTC Touch, which I personally got to use and it was lightning fast!!
My point was that T-Mobiles history with you as their customer.
When i read the story, i thought, this guy has no luck with phones. Do you honestly think T-Mobile will start giving away replacements to a person that has a history of mishaps? Look at it from their point of view also.
The thing is these days, people think everything is about themselves.
Sorry if you hate my replies. I tell things the way I see them. I don't sugar coat anything.
If you had said THAT instead of "Dude grow up" at first, it would've been a little nicer, don't you think?? Do you think I don't have enough on my plate already, after bleeding out all kinds of money for a damn phone & service that I can't even use, without having to put up with wisecrack remarks??
Yes, I DO expect T-Mobile to stand behind their products.
I respect the hell out of calling shots as you see them, but I question HOW they're seen. Throw me a bone, will you??
SpringfieldXD45C said:
If you had said THAT instead of "Dude grow up" at first, it would've been a little nicer, don't you think?? Do you think I don't have enough on my plate already, after bleeding out all kinds of money for a damn phone & service that I can't even use, without having to put up with wisecrack remarks??
Yes, I DO expect T-Mobile to stand behind their products.
I respect the hell out of calling shots as you see them, but I question HOW they're seen. Throw me a bone, will you??
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*tosses a bone in the air *
Kidding
SPRINT!!!
you know even if i had 10 phones break on me, through running normal software or even modified i would like the company to replace, even if it was my fault... thats what u pay insurance for and thats what makes great customer service. Think about it... how many people know more about the phones then someone that modifies them? not your average user, i referred about 15 people just because sprint is so good with me breaking my phone anyway i did( twice but w/e), not just a new phone but every little thing(a new box, battery, phone, 2x stylus, etc...). no need to grow up its a normal thing to worm someone about a HORRIBLE service provider, i've had sprint for a couple months no complaints, well maybe my bill once but i just shot them an email about my bill being $300, next day they gave me an extra $500. if u switch to sprint get the sero account and you may want to do it fast because no one knows how much longer that type of plan is going to be available....
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you know even if i had 10 phones break on me, through running normal software or even modified i would like the company to replace, even if it was my fault... thats what u pay insurance for and thats what makes great customer service. Think about it... how many people know more about the phones then someone that modifies them? not your average user, i referred about 15 people just because sprint is so good with me breaking my phone anyway i did( twice but w/e), not just a new phone but every little thing(a new box, battery, phone, 2x stylus, etc...). no need to grow up its a normal thing to worm someone about a HORRIBLE service provider, i've had sprint for a couple months no complaints, well maybe my bill once but i just shot them an email about my bill being $300, next day they gave me an extra $500. if u switch to sprint get the sero account and you may want to do it fast because no one knows how much longer that type of plan is going to be available....
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Yea but the key element of your situation that makes it different from the person that made this thread is that you have INSURANCE! things are a whole heckofalot different when you have insurance. When you don't, you stand a chance at ending up like this poor guy! The only thing about insurance i absolutely despise is you always get a reburb.
I have to disagree...If i had a company and sold you a phone. If you modify the rom in any way, warranty is void.
I think even with insurance it gets voided. (I may be wrong)
Mikey1022 said:
I have to disagree...If i had a company and sold you a phone. If you modify the rom in any way, warranty is void.
I think even with insurance it gets voided. (I may be wrong)
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No because most insurance plans cover damage ... which cover both physical and software.firmware damage.....
pudgedaddy said:
No because most insurance plans cover damage ... which cover both physical and software.firmware damage.....
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original and modified firmware?
Mikey1022 said:
original and modified firmware?
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Yes! Heck even if it didnt and the insurance covered only physical damage. I'd beat the heck out of the phone so it wouldnt turn on to find out which firmware or ROM was installed. I mean if you think about it , the phone companies make a buttload of money gettin $5 ( or more) a month for monthly insurance charges,,,, then the customer still has to fork out a deductible when they use the insurance. So trust me, I'd love to offer insurance. Lastly most insurance policies limit the nunber of exchanges to 2 or 3 per year. so it would insure that they couldn't abuse the insurance plan
it sucks about the issues you are experiencing, but do you think this is the right forum (no pun intended) for this issue? in my opinion, you will have better luck discussing this issue with mid - senior level management at T-Mobile USA; not with a bunch of people looking to modify their mobile devices.
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it sucks about the issues you are experiencing, but do you think this is the right forum (no pun intended) for this issue? in my opinion, you will have better luck discussing this issue with mid - senior level management at T-Mobile USA; not with a bunch of people looking to modify their mobile devices.
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I agree. The mods should close this thread
I have no other place to vent, and to be honest, I was hoping to get a former T-mobile employee (or someone) who would send me a PM or leave a post with a bit of a tip in it.
If nothing else, I'm outraged and I need to vent (something wrong with that??) It's only natural.
By the way, this has nothing to do with insurance... this is still warranty!! And how do you figure flashing the ROM voids the warranty?? It changes no physical part of the phone... and as long as you can flash the factory ROM back onto it, (thus making the phone still useable) what harm was done?
I see nothing in the warranty about flashing the ROM as being grounds for voiding.

so im pretty sure i bought a stolen dash

so i purchased a dash off ebay recently and they guy said it wouldnt read a sim. so i decided to bid on it cause i wanted the case housing and hell i was hoping he was an idiot. well i got it today and when i put the sim card in it worked fine, i even made a call. so i took out my sim and put it in my other dash and went on my way. now when i try it i get the sim error, no big deal. i knew that when i bought it. then i noticed the serial number and stuff were gone. rest of the dash looks fairly new.
so im wondering how does t mobile block the sim? and is their a way around it? im just wondering cause im messing around with it till i get the tools to take it apart lol.
The SIM will have been linked to the stolen phones' IMEI number.
Take the batt out of the pinched phone because, theoretically, the mobile operator could triangulate the phones position and members of your local constabulary may want to pay you a visit to discuss a recent ebay purchase.
Don't use the SIM.
It is illegal to change/alter a phones' IMEI number, so don't ask.
You could check with T-Mo to see if the IMEI has been blocked, but they will want to know where you got it etc then eBay will need to be informed and they will want to know the phones' history from the bloke you bought it off ...
You can see how this is going to end up: you out of pocket.
Don't ask about this phone on this forum again lest the mods stomp all over you in their size 10s.
If you paid via Pay Pal your purchase should be covered so file a complaint you should be able to get your money back. I would do that ASAP.
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The SIM will have been linked to the stolen phones' IMEI number.
Take the batt out of the pinched phone because, theoretically, the mobile operator could triangulate the phones position and members of your local constabulary may want to pay you a visit to discuss a recent ebay purchase.
Don't use the SIM.
It is illegal to change/alter a phones' IMEI number, so don't ask.
You could check with T-Mo to see if the IMEI has been blocked, but they will want to know where you got it etc then eBay will need to be informed and they will want to know the phones' history from the bloke you bought it off ...
You can see how this is going to end up: you out of pocket.
Don't ask about this phone on this forum again lest the mods stomp all over you in their size 10s.
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how you know they got size 10's? lol. just kidding. i didnt know it was illgeal to change IMEI, or that was the only way to do it, im not wanting to do that. i think i might contact t mobile to make sure that is the problem before i go forward with anything, ill post the results on here. still tempted to just use it for the housing and chuck the rest
on a side note, since i have two t mobile dash's would it be so bad if i changed the one i bought to the same imei as the old one and just used the new one and got rid of the old one?
Before you report it as being stolen, I would suggest that you make darned sure it is actually a stolen phone. Suspicions are one thing...facts are quite another. Selling stolen property is a serious charge, so be absolutely certain before reporting this guy to eBay and PayPal.
As to changing the IMEI number, that's a whole other can of worms. I've asked similar questions before, and got "smacked down" for even mentioning it.
You see, in the USA, it is illegal to change the IMEI of a phone. Under any circumstances. For any reason. Regardless. No matter your intentions, it doesn't matter.
Our laws forbid the changing of the IMEI. Period.
It's a stupid law, that has very little bearing in reality, and *especially* with the guys on this site... But, the law is the law, and we are bound by it.
-- Chuck Knight
yea i dont like this goverment, full of stupid laws. like in some places you cant smoke in your car if you have a child under a certian age, but yet the minimum wage is far under what it needs to be to survive. where i can work 40 hours a week, still cant afford food and cant get food stamps, but some people dont work and can get them with no problem, and they drive a frickin nice car. WTF.
anyone can feel free to PM me with info about software of controversial legailty
Its a gray area. There is no law on the books in the USA that makes changing an IMEI number illegal, BUT, the law on ESN Changing (Elecronic Serial Numbers) which was written to deal with the cloning of analog phones years ago was written broadly enough that should the law want to go after IMEI changers, they very well can. So its best to steer real clear of doing it.. just in case. The only reason to change an IMEI number speaks of several illegal activities anyway, so common sense says its a problem.
well to update this i checked on some site online and it said the imei was good, i also checked the imei of the dash im using to make sure i got the same results. so maybe it just dont read sim cards
As long as you own both of the phones, it is legal in the US to change the IMEI. You don't have to worry about it anyway, no GSM provider in the US blocks IMEIs, except for the all zeros one.

Htc desire sad problem story

hello guys im new here . yesteday i finally bought my desire in canada from telus and i was in rush so i didnt bother looking the phone at store. so when i went home. the sealed was open and there was finger prints on it and i wanted to unlock it to rogers. and i went to 5 different unlocking place they couldnt do it and last guy told me that it might be a refurbished phone thats y it cant be unlock. and i call the place i bought from they said if there is any problem with it will switch it for u. im gonna fight to get a new desire i waited long for this day to come and it all went wrong for me i dont even know what to do. cuz at first i dont think cellphone places are aloud to sell some phone that is used by other people. cuz i dont know what they did with it and i dont feel comfortable with it. any1 any suggestion what to do?
Take it back, they are obligated by law to sell you a brand new unit unless they stated the goods were second hand.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
In the UK we have a contract cooling off period and we could return it even if there was no fault and for no reason. then we could simply buy from somewhere else. Surely there is something similar there or have you bought the phone out right.
No. I signed a 3 year term.
You have 2 weeks (10 business days) to return for any reason. If this was purchased in Canada and the contract was longer than 3(??) months you can get a refund without any questions. I worked at a gym when i was younger and if you purchased a 1 year membership you could cancel it within 2 weeks due to a federal law.
So what happened? You return it?
jamesmcuk said:
In the UK we have a contract cooling off period and we could return it even if there was no fault and for no reason. then we could simply buy from somewhere else. Surely there is something similar there or have you bought the phone out right.
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Alot of UK Phone Company's have a get out clause
In the Small Print on the Contract you sign, they have, if the Seal or the Sim Card has been broken and placed in the Phone you are obliged the contract and there for no longer have your 15 day cooling off period
I had this issue with one phone, and i spent months fighting,
I was able to cancle the contract in the end but that was because i made so many complains about my account and soo many changes where made on my account,
that there was a problem with my billing and the issue was not resolved within 14 days (In there small print)
And was there for in my right to cancel my contract and no pay and cancellation fees or remaining days on the contract
But Yes, It would seem that when that Simcard Seal is Broken or the Card is Activated, your stuck into that contract
hey i got my desire from telus as well on the day it launched. it was brand new so not an issue. i also got it unlocked from but not from those small booths in the mall, i got it from cellunlock. theres a 50% coupon too, if you need it. at first i was skeptical cause i didnt get the code right away but they updated their db, and now its all good, and im running it unlocked.
weird part was that the phone asked me to put in the unlock code more than once, for 2 different things. it worked using the same code.
also i have it rooted and using the leedroid rom 1.8b for now
Its quite possible that when they recieved it, some eager salesman (like myself) wanted to take a look at it and turned it on. I do that with all the new devices if I have not had a sneak peek at one by time launch day comes.
If you want, PM me and I will look up the date of first activation to confirm your unit in fact is new. Other than that, you can go into the store you purchased it at, say it keeps freezing, random reboots and that the battery life sucks and get them to exhange it under TELUS' 30 day DOA exchange program. But make sure its set up the way when you purchased it. You shouldnt get any hassles.
Hope it works out for ya!
i got the brand new 1 finally . i returned that 1 and unlock it . the fastest phone ive ever owned even faster than my bros iphone 4
Why are the unlock codes like 30-40 dollars? shouldn't it be like 15 dollars max?

HTC One x barred by o2 network

how can i unbarred it and use the uk sim card?
any ppl can provide the unbarred the solution?
or other solution that can make my phone receive signal and used back sim card?
i bought this phone at a UK forum and right now it get blocked so i guess it was a stolen phone
so what i can do is only treat is as a htc ipod touch
and is this possible to use oversea sim card?
I am a noob fresh user from htc one x ~
help pls ~thanks
i dont think its barred, it network locked, <--- maybe not
you need to find that person and ask him to ask his network to get it unlocked,
he will need the phone imei no.
teanbread said:
how can i unbarred it and use the uk sim card?
any ppl can provide the unbarred the solution?
or other solution that can make my phone receive signal and used back sim card?
i bought this phone at a UK forum and right now it get blocked so i guess it was a stolen phone
so what i can do is only treat is as a htc ipod touch
and is this possible to use oversea sim card?
I am a noob fresh user from htc one x ~
help pls ~thanks
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If it is barred then you can't use a UK so you'll need to change the IMEI which in itself is illegal in the UK.
Each time you enter a sim it checks for the unique code which is registered when your phone is blocked. Hence why you'll get no signal.
An international sim will work if you are using it abroad.
However as posted by thunder it could be that the phone is network locked so only the original network sim will work you need to find out if it's network locked or actually blocked.
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that seller dun wan asnwer my call anymore
mean i can solve this problem by unlocked the network or using other sim which not from any UK network right?
Use checkmend. Google it. Think it's £1.99 and it will tell you it's status. Wether it's network barred, reported lost or stolen.
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i confirm that the phone is get barred ~
so what i can do right now?
pls save me
Ask the seller for a refund. It could be a stolen phone or insurance scammed. I would first ask the seller and or contact the forum mods which in turn may tell you to go to the police if it's a stolen handset.
There is nothing you can do legally to change imei as this is illegal.
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Sounds like you've been pretty much done in. Based on the condition you're describing it surely classes as having been sold a faulty or misrepresented good, so it's time to do the following (and fast):
If an intermediary like PayPal was used, file a complaint immediately and dispute the transaction
Get in touch with your bank and file for a chargeback; with credit cards you have pretty much guaranteed cover here, for debit cards you should still be covered so long as it's VISA [1][2]
Also, don't forget that Distance Selling Regulations entitle you to an unconditional 7-day window for returning any good you're not happy with so long as it's in original condition (it is not necessary for the packaging to be in good condition or even present at all).
You can of course consider notifying the police too, but that may result in the phone being confiscated and you not getting your money back. If the seller won't respond to your contact now, the chargeback should get his attention and you can go ahead and return the phone if you like — then tell the police anyway once you have your money.
As I see it, you're most likely going to get your money back so long as the purchase wasn't below £100 and thus not eligible for cover (If you seriously thought you were getting a legit One X for this much WTF were you thinking?), done through pure cash, or past the claim time limit — if any of those are the case I guess you can treat this as a hard lesson in how to shop more carefully online.
Sounds like you've been pretty much done in. Based on the condition you're describing it surely classes as having been sold a faulty or misrepresented good, so it's time to do the following (and fast):
If an intermediary like PayPal was used, file a complaint immediately and dispute the transaction
Get in touch with your bank and file for a chargeback; with credit cards you have pretty much guaranteed cover here, for debit cards you should still be covered so long as it's VISA [1][2]
Also, don't forget that Distance Selling Regulations entitle you to an unconditional 7-day window for returning any good you're not happy with so long as it's in original condition (it is not necessary for the packaging to be in good condition or even present at all).
You can of course consider notifying the police too, but that may result in the phone being confiscated and you not getting your money back. If the seller won't respond to your contact now, the chargeback should get his attention and you can go ahead and return the phone if you like — then tell the police anyway once you have your money.
As I see it, you're most likely going to get your money back so long as the purchase wasn't below £100 and thus not eligible for cover (If you seriously thought you were getting a legit One X for this much WTF were you thinking?), done through pure cash, or past the claim time limit — if any of those are the case I guess you can treat this as a hard lesson in how to shop more carefully online.
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DSR won't apply with this situation as it was a private sale according to the OP.
You have to be very careful when doing private sales on forums, same thing happened to me, bought my sister a SGS2 it came with a receipt and everything from a private seller, a year later she went to CPW to trade in and they found out that it was an insurance scammed phone! The odd thing was it wasn't barred as UK sims were still working in them but could have been barred at anytime.
Contact the seller, say if they don't give the only back you will contact the police as effectively this was a fraudulent sale, they probably won't do much at all but hey it'll make the seller aware you won't give up.
But contact the moderators of the forum you purchased this from and let them get involved as well.
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Ah, didn't realise DSR didn't apply to such sales. As a general rule I avoid private selling like the plague because I've heard too many horror stories, unless it's via eBay which offers you somewhat reasonable protection and is why you should insist on going through such a medium unless you literally know the person.
OP: I think you can still go down the chargeback route though, have a look through the links I posted before and figure out if you can make a claim. You never know simply appealing to the seller's goodwill by saying it doesn't work may get you a refund, but I'm guessing not.
Hi i had this happen to me, i swapped my SGS 2 for another phone and the phone i swapped for become barred.. I didnt know what to do but a friend of mine said contact the police, so i did i gave them the persons name and contact number who i got it off and the police managed to get my phone back and it was in London too on its way to India (im from Sheffield). So i would suggest contacting the police worth a shot:good:
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Hi i had this happen to me, i swapped my SGS 2 for another phone and the phone i swapped for become barred.. I didnt know what to do but a friend of mine said contact the police, so i did i gave them the persons name and contact number who i got it off and the police managed to get my phone back and it was in London too on its way to India (im from Sheffield). So i would suggest contacting the police worth a shot:good:
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wow they actually did something about it? and there was a result!?!?!
springy0114 said:
Hi i had this happen to me, i swapped my SGS 2 for another phone and the phone i swapped for become barred.. I didnt know what to do but a friend of mine said contact the police, so i did i gave them the persons name and contact number who i got it off and the police managed to get my phone back and it was in London too on its way to India (im from Sheffield). So i would suggest contacting the police worth a shot:good:
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Good to hear a positive story for once with the feds doing something positive! Quie common for phones to end up back in Asia, big demand for them there as well as all the scams that go on with them!

Used S20 (At&t) - How to tell how much is owed?

Not sure this is the right place to ask, but.....
I traded an unlocked (and paid off) Pixel 4 for an At&t S20 about 16-18 months ago. I recently tried to trade it in for an upgrade, but was told there was money still owed on the phone? When I asked how much, they asked who the previous owner, how I knew him, if they could contact him, and said that he shouldn't be selling a phone with money still owed on it? It's been about a year and a half, I have NO idea what his name is?? But, he's obviously still making payments on it (I can only assume, since it's still working) and he hasn't tried reporting it stolen to get a replacement, so he's doing the "right" thing by me......But, I'd like to know how much is owed on it?
Any way to go about this?
....Also, finding this out has made me a little nervous that he may stop paying on it and it'll get blacklisted and unregistered on the network, at the most inconvenient time.
**I know, you should never get a phone without checking that.... It's done and over with and that one is on me, I'm just asking if there's a way to tell how much is owed?
Pay off the phone... or call it a wash.

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