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How to repeat Text Message Notification

Is there a way to repeat "Play Sound" until you acknowledge the incoming text message? Repeat is grayed out in the notification area. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Allen

Hi Allen
I use DontForget for this and its a pretty good freeware/donationware program
http://blog.softimage.cz/?page_id=83
Its designed for WM5 smart phones but will work on any WM5 with a small registry tweak:
quote from developer Hujer:
However, you are running DF on the PocketPC device and it is intended for Smartphones in this version.
The next release version will run on PocketPCs as well (even this is not "real" PPC version).
For now you can try to "fix" it by adding following registry entries.
Please add following keys to you device registry:
Create the key HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles
Create the key HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles\Silent
Create the key HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles\Loud
Create the key HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles\Normal
Create the key HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles\Meeting
Now you should be able to run the DontForgetAdmin and set up all parameters.
Please note that due to missing Profiles on PocketPCs you have to switch off following options in the Admin:
- deactivate in following profile:
- switch to following profile (in both deactivation and re-activation section)
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Enjoy!

"Dontforget" "dont" work for me...
I installed it and made the reg entries. But never have been able to get it to work. When I start the admin app I get...
"An unexpected error had occured in DontForgetAdmin.exe.
Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more infomation."
For Details...
DontForgetAdmin.exe
Exception
MISC::HandleAr+0x5b
ComboBox::set_SelectedIndex+0x13
MainForm::MainForm_Load+0xa7f
Form::OnLoad+0x15
Form::_SetVisibleNotify+0x1d
Control::set_Visible+0x1f
Application::Run+0x7
MainForm::Main+0xa
Oh well... I guess I'll have to wait for the upgraded version unless someone has any idea about this???
Thanks,
-Pad

Found this hack on another website, which seems to do the trick (and yes, I did try it first ) - only problem is, the notification seems to carry on "for a while" after you've read/deleted the text message.
Give it a go, see what you think.
Mark.
Repeat notifications for text and email messages
Under HKCU/ControlPanel/Notifications find the following keys for Email and Text messages:
A877d65Axxxxxxx
A877d65Bxxxxxxx
Also find Key 15F11F90xxxx for reminders.
Copy the Options value from the Reminders key and overwrite the options value in both email and text message keys with this value (1073741853)
Once you do this, go to start - settings - sounds and notifications - notifications.
Under events, select new email message OR new text message and you'll notice that the repeat option that was greyed out is now enabled and can be selected.
You need to power off (NOT Soft Reset!!) your device to ensure that the HKCU registry hive is written away correctly.
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I personally use phoneAlarm. Don't use this feature, but it can do the trick.

Great. But how do I...
Mark, Great reg hack but I have a question...
How do I tell which key is for what message applet?
Email ?
SMS ?
Palm SMS ?
Etc.
You have listed them for email and sms but is there a way to tell from within the key which one is for which msg applet?
Also, does anyone know where the value of "1073741853" is derived from?

@Padawan,
Each of the keys has a description field - just click on it in PHM RegEdit (or whatever you're using) and you can see what type of message action it relates to; e.g. A877d65B-xxxx-xxxx has "Messaging: New Text Message" as the value of the "Default" key.
The value "1073741853" is equivalent to 0x4000001D, and it's obviously some sort of bit mask - don't ask me what each bit means, coz I ain't found that out yet!
One other thing - the "Duration" key seems to be the length of time (in minutes) you want the notification repeated for - as I said earlier, it keeps going even if you've read/deleted the message, so it might be prudent to set it to 5 minutes in the Start | Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications screen (it's the "Flash light for" setting). Setting it to zero/ seems to keep it going forever (well, I got bored of listening to it after 15 minutes and did a soft reset to shut it up ). You can also change it to another value (mine's set to 2 at the moment) using the registry editor.
Bit of a long reply, hope this explains everything in a bit more detail
Cheers,
Mark.

Repeat notifications for text and email messages
Under HKCU/ControlPanel/Notifications find the following keys for Email and Text messages:
A877d65Axxxxxxx
A877d65Bxxxxxxx
Also find Key 15F11F90xxxx for reminders.
Copy the Options value from the Reminders key and overwrite the options value in both email and text message keys with this value (1073741853)
Once you do this, go to start - settings - sounds and notifications - notifications.
UNder events, select new email message OR new text message and you'll notice that th repeat option that was greyed out is now enabled and can be selected.

Read, read, read and read again......
I already posted that...about 8 hours ago.....if you'd bothered to read the thread, you would have known that.....
sigh

ok you're right, 1 unuseful post on 237 is acceptable... excuse me :emb:

Fair enough....apology accepted, you're free to go

Mark, Just got the "long reply"...
Outstanding! I thought it was probably a bit mask too.
I owe you a pint if your ever in Indiana.

WM6
Mark, I just realized you are running WM6.
I'm still using WM5 on a Wiz100.
Must be why these mods dont seem to work quite right for me.
Please excuse my momentary lapse of stupidity...

WM5 or WM6....shouldn't matter
@Padawan, I don't understand why these don't/aren't working with your WM5 device - I only upgraded to WM6 over the weekend and I had tried the registry changes before that (though I lost them after a soft reset and never bothered to put them back in) when my Hermes was running WM5.
I don't think the registry changes are the definitive answer - I'd like to find out what all the bits in the 0x4000001D value mean....that might help the solution be a little more elegant.
What is happening to you to make you say "these mods dont seem to work quite right for me" - do you get repeated notifications, or nothing at all??
Mark.

Testing...
Mark, I have not had time to do any real experimentation on what is working and what is not. I'll get some data in a couple of days.
For a little rant... I have tried apReminderPlus- joke, SuperAlert-joke, DontForget- didn't run, PhoneAlarm- bloated, slows my device. Why cant someone make a simple, small footprint, reminder config app that actually works? I love everything else about my Wiz100 except for the awful reminder/notifications disfunction. I would gladly pay for something that worked.
Rant over.
;-)

Don't Forget Does Work
But you have to use a small WAV file. I tried using a ring wav for it and it freaked out. When I used an Alarm1 -3 it's fine. It's working great.
What I don't understand is why do they have to Gray out the Repeat option thats already built into the OS? Seem's like that would be the easiest way for it to work.
Thanks, Allen

Original settings?
Mark, What were the original settings for the registry entries under:
HKCU/ControlPanel/Notifications find the following keys for Email and Text messages:
A877d65Axxxxxxx
A877d65Bxxxxxxx
Also find Key 15F11F90xxxx for reminders.
Copy the Options value from the Reminders key and overwrite the options value in both email and text message keys with this value (1073741853)
(Per your posting). I lost my notes. I thought it was "16". You were right... the notification seems to keep going after you have acknowledged it or dismissed it. Its a little annoying.
Anyway, I found this and am trying it out.
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=6d01b99b3c3f6d40c466801ad6bee953&board=41.0
Found it on another posting on xda. Small footprint, lean app just for notifications.

Nice little app, will give it a try myself!
@Padawan,
Thanks for your response; as far as the original values for the Email/SMS registry keys go, I thought they were both set to "1" Theoretically, if you go back into the Sounds & Notifications applet, select the New email or New text event and turn off the repeat tick box, the values should revert to their default. I'll give that a try in a few minutes.....
EDIT: The above doesn't work!! What you need to do is to go into the registry keys again and rename "Options" to "XOptions" (or whatever). Then go back into Start|Settings|Sounds&Notifications again, select the Notifications tab and find the "New email" and "New text" events; you'll find that most of the options are un-ticked and that the repeat option is grayed out again - just tick the options you want and the "Options" key get re-created in the registry - mine was set to 13.
Hope this helps....post back with your experiences of the new app - I'd be interested to hear!
Cheers,
Mark.

alarmPal from Pocketmax
Mark, I have started a dialog with Penguin at pocketmax to add support for the PalmSMS and Emoze email inbox event. I'll keep you posted how it turns out. The "normal" sms and email event repeat notifications work fine so far with alarmPal. Give it a try and see what you think...
Pocketmax told be they'll try to get back to me by Monday.
Looks promising so far...
-Pad

auto update clock?

I have had regular phones that were able to auto update their clock based on the network tower's time. I can't find a way to make this PDA phone do it.
I read in the wizards section about editing the "ShowTimeZonesPage" in the registry to show an extra tab in the phone settings page. I changed it accordingly and still no extra tab like they have, even after a soft reset.
Anyone have a way to do this?

i believe u are using a HTC wizard. If you go into the phone options and then go into the Time zone and check the option to synchronize. After that everytime the timezone changes it should synchronize .
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Satya

Sorry, I should have specified what I am using. I am using a Dopod P800W. I found the registry tweak in the Wizard section and thought I would give it a shot to see if it would work -- it doesn't. Even though I do have that entry in my registry and it was originally set to "0", when I set it to "1" nothing happens.

You can use a program called GPS2Blue to set the time by the GPS clocks, but it is not automatic.

i use sp time sync
http://www.spdialer.com/timesync/
i think you can set up auto sync but don't quote me on that!
word of yowarning, it uses a data connection to update the time.
hope that helps,
XaN

Registry tweaks specific to WM6

I did a bunch of the reg tweaks while WM5 was loaded, and it all worked fine. Now Im finding several of them not working correctly, or values not being where I expected them to be. Are there any updated wikis or similar for the common registry tweaks for WM6?
Thanks guys!

RoachForLife said:
I did a bunch of the reg tweaks while WM5 was loaded, and it all worked fine. Now Im finding several of them not working correctly, or values not being where I expected them to be. Are there any updated wikis or similar for the common registry tweaks for WM6?
Thanks guys!
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why dont you post your tweaks your trying to use that way we can tell you if they are still relevant or not...

disable sms sent text and disable 3g startup animation are the two most annoying I can think of right now. I ran them thru registry yesterday but didnt seem to work. Thanks

Disable SMS Message Sent
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\SMSNoSentMsg=1
Disbale Startup Animation
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\StartupAnimation\Enabled=0
Work just fine for me.

odd, I just did it AGAIN and yet it must not be saving as I did soft reset and animation still went off. When I pull up in Total Comm it doesnt save the settings.. any ideas?

Just did a power cycle and seems to have held. Weird.
Ok but are there any new reg tweaks specific to WM6 in general? thanks guys

There is any registry tweak to get Windows Live messenger connect through Wi-fi instead trying to find GPRS or 3G connection?
That will be nice .

My sms message stored in simcard show in inbox (not shown in wm5) . i feel that the speed of opening the inbox is quite slow and may be caused by reading sim sms. Is it possible to hide sim sms just like hiding sim contact?
Many Thanks!!

what are the settings to make ALL your outlook mail as well as all your POP3 mail go to a Storage Card. not just the attachments, but the whole message.
thanks alot.

RoachForLife said:
Just did a power cycle and seems to have held. Weird.
Ok but are there any new reg tweaks specific to WM6 in general? thanks guys
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as most registry programs dont perform a Hive Flush after making the changes its necessary to perform a power cycle to save the changes...

walshieau said:
as most registry programs dont perform a Hive Flush after making the changes its necessary to perform a power cycle to save the changes...
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Forgive me for my innocence, how can i perform a power cycle?
It's just that i want my font to be in the cleartype in the landscape view permanently. It keeps going back to the original non clear type font everytime i turn my phone off or soft reset. I keep on editing HKLM/System/GDI/CleartypeSetting/OffRotation/from 1 to 0

docles2002 said:
Forgive me for my innocence, how can i perform a power cycle?
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Hold the power button for some seconds and answer YES.

laaban said:
Hold the power button for some seconds and answer YES.
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Which saves to registry. There.

Confirmation: SMSNoSentMsg hack
csaunders said:
Disable SMS Message Sent
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\SMSNoSentMsg=1
Work just fine for me.
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Ditto - which I don't normally clutter up the forum with; however, I want to stress: it did require a POWER cycle to get it to stick.
After that, works on WM6 just like it did on WM5

Need to change Startup Sound
I have At&t Tilt
Does anyone know how to change start Up Sound
I know it has to be a .wav file (is there size limit to it ? )
Need Registry tweak
Had done it before but forgot how i did it
Have tried this, But it doesnt work >>>
Could it be cos i have Kaiser Tweak cab installed
Modify Startup Sound:
Registry: HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\StartupAnimation
Key: WAVFile (SZ String Value)
Default: \Windows\T-Mobile startup.wav
New Value: (whatever you want.wav)

Location & Time stamps

Hi All,
Searched high and low but can't find the answer and I'm a complete newb.
I have two small problems with my unlcoked AT&T HTC Tilt 2
1. After trying numerous radios 'my location' still does not update in the weather feature (currently using vers 4.48.25.20), just hangs then with USB I get 'connection error' message
2.Time stamps on SMS and MMS are way out of whack with when messages were actually sent or recieved.
Useing NRGZ8's ROM version 21.FEB.2010 WWE. I'm in AUST
Any help appreciated
Steve

1. Why are you getting a usb error when using weather?
2. Are your time zone and dst settings correct in settings-clocks and alarms?
If so then try this reg edit:
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\
set the value for TrustTimeZoneField to 0 (decimal)
If that key isn't there, then go ahead and create it and soft reset.

fone_fanatic said:
1. Why are you getting a usb error when using weather?
2. Are your time zone and dst settings correct in settings-clocks and alarms?
If so then try this reg edit:
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\
set the value for TrustTimeZoneField to 0 (decimal)
If that key isn't there, then go ahead and create it and soft reset.
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Thanks fone_fanatic,
1.No idea why I'm getting a 'connection error' when the USB is connected and I try to update location or even if/how it's related. I've since tried another Radio (4.49.25.05) and found in another thread that I need to have wifi enabled even if not connected...that seems to work..for now.
2. All settings are correct, looked at reg edit and seems that I need to create Trust time zone bit as you suggest...beyond me at the moment so I'll read more on reg edits.
thanks for your help

oh so you had the device plugged in via USB and were trying to update weather/location while its plugged in.
Yeah, activesync/device center will kill your data connection when connected to the device unless you change the settings.
as for reg edits. They're quite easy, not too much harm can be done, unless your just browsing through the registry and changing/deleting values that you don't know what they do.
Don't let it intimidate you.
a popular free registy editor is PHM registy Editor or Total Commander (which is also a powerful file explorer)
Whichever reg editor you use, simply browse to the folder (folders in the registry are called keys)
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting\"
then create a new "Dword Value" and name it "TrustTimeZoneField" and give it a value of 0
exit it out, Soft Reset (generally a good idea to soft reset after editing the registry) and you should be golden.
Also there is a cab floating around, just can't find it at the moment, that adds the value for you, search for Message Time stamp and it you might find it.
best of luck

regedit worked for me, also try searching for "text message driving me crazy" it has the cab file i believe.

Haunted by message sent bubble

I have looked and can't seem to find the right solution. Obviously it is well known the small issue with the "SMS/MMS Message Sent" Bubble. I edited the registry so it would go away. About a month later it came back after a restart. I went back and changed the registry but this time it didn't go away. I found the .cab fix and installed it and it worked fine. However, once I restart it returns and is unaffected by registry edits for some crazy reason. The only thing that works is the .cab fix but it returns once I have to restart. Is there any reason it would ignore the registry edits and continue to come back?

This is TP2 with Stock WM6.5

sometimes reg edits don't stick after a soft reset. Try changing the registry, exiting out of the reg editor app and then power off the device (hold down power button) instead of soft reset. then boot it back up.
Also you could try to install advanced config and set it to not show the message sent notification from that app and see if it does a better job

No luck, the registry is set so both the HTC and verizon bubbles don't show up but I still get it, not both just the bubble one whichever one that is. Makes no sense.

Tried advanced config. Was already set to all notifications disabled. Not sure what else I can do

sms notify bye bye
LostScooter said:
I have looked and can't seem to find the right solution. Obviously it is well known the small issue with the "SMS/MMS Message Sent" Bubble. I edited the registry so it would go away. About a month later it came back after a restart. I went back and changed the registry but this time it didn't go away. I found the .cab fix and installed it and it worked fine. However, once I restart it returns and is unaffected by registry edits for some crazy reason. The only thing that works is the .cab fix but it returns once I have to restart. Is there any reason it would ignore the registry edits and continue to come back?
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there is a cab 4 this i use it on my 6.1 tp2 just searh it

Not bye bye
As I said before I used the cab file before, it works until I need to restart and it comes back

LostScooter said:
Tried advanced config. Was already set to all notifications disabled. Not sure what else I can do
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Where can I find the cab for this "advanced config" app?

JohnCody said:
Where can I find the cab for this "advanced config" app?
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Just use the main forum search and look for "advanced config"
...which will lead you to THIS thread

Thanks for the link - it was late last night - sorry for being lazy

JohnCody said:
Thanks for the link - it was late last night - sorry for being lazy
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No prob, we all do the same sometimes, and I figured that might be the case, so I went ahead and put the link in too Let us know if it works for you!

I too want to disable the "SMS Sent" bubble.
But when I ran adv config, it said that that feature was already disabled, so I guess I will try turning it "ON", then off and see if that works - and report back.

Well that doesn't help me...idk why my phone feels like ignoring the advanced config and the registry...can anyone help. Cab doesn't fix it, reg edit doesn't work, and advanced config doesn't

Is there more then one cab file made for this? I never had this issue with 6.1

Anybody know the answer? This is driving me nuts

I don't know which ROM you are running, but try setting the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\SMSNoSentMsg=2. That has worked for me in the past with the stock verizon 6.1 and 6.5 ROMs.

Wow looks like it worked. Why that works I have no idea. I am running Stock 6.5. Thanks a lot! Hopefully it doesn't come back again

+1 for the change value to 2! Thanks! I did it on my TP2 with 6.1 on it and since going to stock VZW 6.5 it was driving me nuts! Couldnt remember how to get rid of it again