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Question to all members...

After a deep thinking and consideration I thought I need to benchmark the market -or in this case the Forum. I have been having Jasjar (Universal) for quite sometime now and was not so sure whether I keep it or not.
Every span of couple of months new device is launched with this feature or that benefit. Many that have proved functionality and other proved to be a total disgrace to the ppc industry
And since I am a member in this forum for almost over a year now, I wanted to ask all -at least who will visit this thread- how many of those are using Universal and those who are using other devices ranked in this Forum? If any would -thankfully- be coming up with serious statistics of the wide use of Universal vs. other devices and brands this would definitely indicate the global domination of such device and the versatility not to mention that with the latest ROMs this device became more and more dearer to me as much it is to others -I reckon so!
I am sure this would help all those programmers to focus more on developing roms and apps compatible with Universal than others. I would ask anyone who reads this post to contribute in voting and comments would surely be appreciated.

Cyber-mate said:
After a deep thinking and consideration I thought I need to benchmark the market -or in this case the Forum. I have been having Jasjar (Universal) for quite sometime now and was not so sure whether I keep it or not.
Every span of couple of months new device is launched with this feature or that benefit. Many that have proved functionality and other proved to be a total disgrace to the ppc industry
And since I am a member in this forum for almost over a year now, I wanted to ask all -at least who will visit this thread- how many of those are using Universal and those who are using other devices ranked in this Forum? If any would -thankfully- be coming up with serious statistics of the wide use of Universal vs. other devices and brands this would definitely indicate the global domination of such device and the versatility not to mention that with the latest ROMs this device became more and more dearer to me as much it is to others -I reckon so!
I am sure this would help all those programmers to focus more on developing roms and apps compatible with Universal than others. I would ask anyone who reads this post to contribute in voting and comments would surely be appreciated.
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Why not start a poll?

Universal
Hi Cyber-mate
To let you know; I do love my Universal and I'm using it 24 hours a day!
So I think I'm the first who answers your question
'Yeah... Lets start a poll'.
Cheers, Leo

Hi Cyber-mate
Have to say, I have persevered with the Universal, and that since the genius rom builders on here have cooked up some of their magic I am at last a happy Uni owner. I bought mine in Sep/Oct of 2005 and I can honestly say now I find mine usefull. I'm not a heavy user, but it is my main squeez (so to speak).
Regards
Mavrik

The reason there are so many devices, is because the market can support them as different people like different things.
There is no such thing as the best device, or the perfect device, it's what you think suits your needs the closest.
Currently, the Universal is the highest specification device, but soon the Athena will be out, but this is much larger, and not designed as a mobile pda phone, and also the Omni, which is the replacement for the Universal.
Really though, if you like your Universal, then great, if you don't, then listening to other people's views on what is good or bad will only confuse you.
We like the Universal, but there are many more that hate it.

I love my unversal too, and I think I keep it until I can get an Apple iPhone.
Or maybe I never change it to another device, because it has all thing in one, except GPS. But I can live without it, still we have BT GPS on the market.

Confused!!!...
Not sure what you want!!!...
Benchmark PDA? Yes I like my Universal!!!...
Benchmark Forum? Yes this is a good forum!!!... Of course, somethings are not allowed here but can be found somewhere!!!...
Benchmark self cooked ROM? This is definitely the best before WM6 starts to be banned!!!... If this banned forever, well one good thing less!!!...

HyperMalac said:
I love my unversal too, and I think I keep it until I can get an Apple iPhone.
Or maybe I never change it to another device, because it has all thing in one, except GPS. But I can live without it, still we have BT GPS on the market.
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Why iPhone?

CWKJ said:
Confused!!!...
Not sure what you want!!!...
Benchmark PDA? Yes I like my Universal!!!...
Benchmark Forum? Yes this is a good forum!!!... Of course, somethings are not allowed here but can be found somewhere!!!...
Benchmark self cooked ROM? This is definitely the best before WM6 starts to be banned!!!... If this banned forever, well one good thing less!!!...
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You see CWKJ, there are 100s of opinions from 100s of poeple. However, being a person among a large comunity that consider Universal as a gr8 device that has got the all-in-one! I mean, just check any of those posts with a ROM related topic, you'd see more than 100k entries and with no doubt this indicate that it is widely used and YET proven to be a
top-of-the-list device.
I am sure many more would agree with me and to tell you the truth, Apple IPhone is a pansy one.
We are talking FUNCTIONALITY here and not looks and colors! A device that can connect wirelessly, bluetooth, camera, keyboard and many others proves to be a true Pocket PC.
And hey, one more thing, when we talk about a Pocket PC, we aint talking mobile phone, I mean apple to apple

Hi,
about the Universal, I have to say it's a wonderful device which can be very useful and helpful. Thanks to its VGA display you can browse Internet really well not like those other devices with smaller resolutions.
The "laptop alike" makes it again very useful to write anything, even long texts.
I think about it more like a little laptop replacement (...ok the OS is not really a good OS replacement but I guess this would change with Linux...). It's another way of PPC, since I got my Hermes (about two weeks ago) I see how it's different, I use the Hermes with just one finger (almost everything) while I don't use the keyboard too much....on the other hand with my Uni I almost did everything with the keyboard.
So now with these two devices I have to say I use the Hermes as an "stable" PPC and the universal to try every new ROM is created, I'm trying to learn how to cook them, etc so now I think I'm enjoying the Uni even more!

Meeting with HTC

Hi all
i'm an engineer doing R&D for Leaf Wireless in South Africa. We supply wireless solutions and HTC phones to Africa.
i'm going to Taiwan to meet and recieve training from the HTC engineers from monday the 12th. And since i've received so much help from XDA developers in the past i thought i'd offer.
if there are any customisation questions you have or HTC issues that are proving difficult to solve post them here. i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
cheers,
Greg

hmm this thread sounds like it could take off.
i dont think you know what you got yourself into supaspud. i know lots of people are going to have questions and suggestions for htc.
i for one would like to see them implement a wheel mouse not unlike the one in the danger sidekick 3. that would make wm experience 100 times better.
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
when i think of more questions or suggestions ill reply again

?Why don't they make a full size (3.5" or whatever) screen in a cdma with more memory. Hell it doesn't even have to be vga. I use mine as a pda, if I wanted a tiny screen, I'd just get a damn phone.

hiimcliff said:
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
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Save yourself the bother. It would be up to the telco's to decide on releasing an official update and they would then pay HTC to build the rom. Expect that to happen about the same time as the telco's decide to donate all their profits to third world charities.

It's not a telco thing. If you are refering to the companies who re-brand the HTC machines (most of whom are not telcos) the decision will be based mostly on whether HTC will actually supply the ROM and at what cost if any. They would have a fairly good idea about what they are going to do for some machines as they own one such company that retails their machines (Dopod). Find out about possibility of Artemis crossbow ROM if you can

Linux
It would be interesting to get their opinion on Linux on the HTC platform, and whether they would consider contributing to the development of a well rounded Linux based phone environment.

Yes, their opinion on linux would be good to know
Ask if they have any future plans to support it officially.

Ask them what (apart from soldering the chips on and editing the rom file for memory alocation) needs to be done to make 128mb of ram work on UNIVERSAL (it origionally had it, so the motherboard supports it and it can work

Hello Leaf Wireless
Well, well Greg, I thought that Leaf would not come out of the closet.
I have been the source of information till now, but now please take the stage.
A few months back I introduced a few of your staff to the XDA site.
I am now and then fed tit bits of information which I share on the forum. The ROM 1.35 update is a good example.
There are some clever guys here and we can all all learn together.
The problems I raised with Renier was:
1. Storage card getting lost in Media Player
2. Windows 5 is full of unresloved problems, with the BT stack poor.
3. Battery life on 3G is shocking. I have upgraded to 1.27 to see if things improve.
4. I have an Email from Dan Mackie @HTC Eupope stating that an Major ROM upgrade would be released at the end of January 2007, "to resolve all known issues on the TyTN". Nothing has happened yet!
The issue with the storage card was a known issue and I was informed at the end of September that it would be sorted with the next upgrade.
It hasn't happened yet but I have noticed that the TyTN's that you have received do not have this problem.
Please feel free to contact me should you wish.
Enjoy the trip and let me have a copy of the new ROM before you leave.
Regards
A wish list would be for the keyboard have some kind of a lock to prevent it opening when retrieving from the pouch. I find that I often drop call on closing the keyboard.
The magnets in the pouch are also troublesome and cause screen rotation and also dropped calls at times when rotating back.

GPS in the Hermes
What component of software (hardware??) is missing in the Tytn compared to the Trinity to make the GPS work.
Thanks
Francisco
PS. My first post, and I would like to thanks all the excellent XDA-developers community for this great forum.

@SupaSpud: Tell them to produce a Hermes with VGA screen and GPS and 256Mb ROM, RAM....
Thanks.

SupaSpud said:
i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
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Several people have already asked this question:
- How can we install 128Mb RAM on Universal?
HTC never replied.

sheesh...
wow... looks like I opened up pandora's box. i'm making a list of all the queries and i'll ask them on monday. keep em coming...
ps: i'll find out bout the rom now.

Hey SSpud - gr8 offer !
1. I''d like you to ask why they dont set the default Bluetooth (a2dp) to Stereo (and the bit rate / max bit rate to 40+) ... and generally fix stereo BT.
2. How do they acvtually work with customers (eg BT in the UK) .... I get the inpression they are extremely slow and unresponsive.
2. Camera - if even cheap sony ericons can have autofocus and macro settings why cant HTC ?
3. Stereo Jacks (3.5 or 2.5mm)
4. Direct access to microSD card
5. When will they update their FAQ's and trouble shooting guides beyond the patronising " check that it is turned on type " answers.
Thanks for this oportunity !!
(I'm especially intersted efor Artemis/ XDA orbit)

Hello 'Spud,
Apart from sorting/mentioning the listed problems here - especially the poor bluetooth stack IMO - please do bump the question regarding their future GPS roadmap for TyTN/Hermes series of phones.
Now that will make a true convergence of technologies.
Kind regards,

Mine is a small and trivial request... could they please please please fix the battery meter on the hermes... the [email protected] +/- 10% drives me nuts... wish we could get the +/- 1% like the other devices.

Hello Greg
SupaSpud said:
Hi all
i'm an engineer doing R&D for Leaf Wireless in South Africa. We supply wireless solutions and HTC phones to Africa.
i'm going to Taiwan to meet and recieve training from the HTC engineers from monday the 12th. And since i've received so much help from XDA developers in the past i thought i'd offer.
if there are any customisation questions you have or HTC issues that are proving difficult to solve post them here. i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
cheers,
Greg
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Tell the guys at HTC to watch the XDA-Developers site to find out what's wrong with their phones and what features are needed to turn them into great devices - remember the IPhone is comming!
Basil

Tell them not to save cents in devices that cost hundred of dollars. For instance they use cheap and weak cpus like samsung (which has only ARMv4T) ot OMAP with it's low clock frequencies. Or they save memory and instead of using 128MB or more RAM! RAM is cheap! I'd like to see smaller touchscreen displays with VGA resolution! Look at the size and resolution of some nokias: E60 or E70. I'd like to see hermes (device with foldable keyboard) with gps, 624MHz intel cpu, 128MB RAM and 2.2 inch touchscreen in the near future!
YES! Tell them about this forum! Tell them not to do stupid things in locking their devices - this simply reduces their markets!
And tell them that maybe it is about time to see their x86 UMPC! Look at the sony vaio UX180P or UX280P!

Hi
hiimcliff said:
i for one would like to see them implement a wheel mouse not unlike the one in the danger sidekick 3. that would make wm experience 100 times better.
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
when i think of more questions or suggestions ill reply again
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I'm not exactly sure of what you mean about the wheel mouse. You mean like the one the Artemis has?
As for crossbow going onto the Wizard... i don't think that'll happen. But i'll double check.

Hi
cougargt said:
?Why don't they make a full size (3.5" or whatever) screen in a cdma with more memory. Hell it doesn't even have to be vga. I use mine as a pda, if I wanted a tiny screen, I'd just get a damn phone.
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I can't say too much, but if the rumour I heard is true, you might get something like that in the second half of this year. *wink-wink, nudge-nudge*

GPS activation coming!

First let me start off by saying thank you to everyone for all your great work and excellent posts, i have been a guest and member for a very long time but never need to post or had anything to contribute. thanks again now onto the GPS activation, i know this is a rather touchy subject for some so please dont bash if you disagree.
- I am switch from the 8525 (at&t) to the mogul (sprint) b/c i am saving 170$ although i loved my 8525. While learning and viewing the sprint forums for information about the mogul i found they have been having in depth conversation about the GPS.
1 - the gps is not believed to be stand alone
2 - the antenna issue from what i could read could or could not be there as sprint users took pictures on the phone and found what should be the gps antenna. but regard less when unlocked we should be able to A-GPS (a sort of triangulation between towers to give a approximate position).
3 - further proof that the gps must be able to work other than for emergency's is sprint's release of the EV-D0 rev. a ROM intended to unlock the gps in response to the TILT from ATT.
proof from HTC's site
"HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. We would also like to extend our thanks to those customers that have taken the time to identify and report these issues to us."
It would be my assumption but this is where i could be wrong and would like to open debate. the ROM should be able to be hacked allowing other hermes to unlock theyre GPS for use with other applications.
hope this excites some of you and gives you hope of one day getting your "gps enabled" or disabled hermes depending on how you look at it to work with tom tom or telenav etc..

omg,
i can´t believit, jejej.
If coming true, this will be the best notice i´ve heard about hermes.
Many thanks dsh897, i will follow this thread

proof from HTC's site
"HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. We would also like to extend our thanks to those customers that have taken the time to identify and report these issues to us."
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Do you have a direct link for this?

Amauta said:
Do you have a direct link for this?
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Google is your friend: http://www.america.htc.com/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
(about 2/3 the way down the page)

Thats a great news indeed
I still doubt abt the possibility of unlocking GPS in our Hermes.

As do I unfortunately, but more than happy to be proven wrong

noobish questions...
may i ask why only for the mogul? Is this something all hermes owners can benefit from?

great!!!
I hope so
hermes ๆๆๆๆ

I am a little confused...... I thought it was widely agreed that it was not a software problem but a hardware problem..
Have I missed something ?

I thought this too - that there was no actual antenna hooked up to the GPS pins or something?

I am not sure what's the hardware similarities between hermes and mogul, but gps for hermes was discussed before...look in to this thread for more details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291181

ai6908 said:
I am not sure what's the hardware similarities between hermes and mogul, but gps for hermes was discussed before...look in to this thread for more details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291181
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Yeah, I followed this thread at the time. Is the mogul a rebranded hermes or is it a different phone ?

from what i'm seeing the mogul hardware is similar to the tilt and not the tytn ( they carry the same processor).. this meens it's not compatible with the hermes..... i could be wrong

madamada31 said:
from what i'm seeing the mogul hardware is similar to the tilt and not the tytn ( they carry the same processor).. this meens it's not compatible with the hermes..... i could be wrong
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It looks that way it has a qualcomm prosessor instead of the samsung

Guys weve been here before, check the threads on this.
The GPS hardware has been woken up and functions correctly.....however the pins are not connected to a suitable antenna. The most i detected on the Hermes was 2 sattelites and these were not real fixes either.
A hardware mod is required to get the GPS working on the hermes which can be done however wouldnt it be easier to just grab a cheap bluetooth module and settle with it?

Here are link 1 and link 2 to the old GPS for Hermes threads. GPS driver link. And yes Hermes has Samsung processor, but Hermes' radio chip is made by Qualcomm And that is the chip that matters for GPS). But as Mr. Vanx said there is no available antenna.

maybe some people would be willing to do a hardware mod, if it can be done

mrvanx said:
Guys weve been here before, check the threads on this.
The GPS hardware has been woken up and functions correctly.....however the pins are not connected to a suitable antenna. The most i detected on the Hermes was 2 sattelites and these were not real fixes either.
A hardware mod is required to get the GPS working on the hermes which can be done however wouldnt it be easier to just grab a cheap bluetooth module and settle with it?
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I followed both threads at the time with great interest. I wasn't sure if on occassion, this was something new that had been discovered previously or something that could have been missed. Obviously in this instance neither is the case

dsh897 said:
First let me start off by saying thank you to everyone for all your great work and excellent posts, i have been a guest and member for a very long time but never need to post or had anything to contribute. thanks again now onto the GPS activation, i know this is a rather touchy subject for some so please dont bash if you disagree.
- I am switch from the 8525 (at&t) to the mogul (sprint) b/c i am saving 170$ although i loved my 8525. While learning and viewing the sprint forums for information about the mogul i found they have been having in depth conversation about the GPS.
1 - the gps is not believed to be stand alone
2 - the antenna issue from what i could read could or could not be there as sprint users took pictures on the phone and found what should be the gps antenna. but regard less when unlocked we should be able to A-GPS (a sort of triangulation between towers to give a approximate position).
3 - further proof that the gps must be able to work other than for emergency's is sprint's release of the EV-D0 rev. a ROM intended to unlock the gps in response to the TILT from ATT.
proof from HTC's site
"HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. We would also like to extend our thanks to those customers that have taken the time to identify and report these issues to us."
It would be my assumption but this is where i could be wrong and would like to open debate. the ROM should be able to be hacked allowing other hermes to unlock theyre GPS for use with other applications.
hope this excites some of you and gives you hope of one day getting your "gps enabled" or disabled hermes depending on how you look at it to work with tom tom or telenav etc..
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That is very intresting, I'm intrigued to see if HTC rolls out a rom for Hermes like you describe (though I doubt it the Mogul has different chipsets, this issue has been explored at length in the forums). That said triangulation based GPS is already available for free for all windows mobile phones with the latest version of google maps, the thread is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348310
Install the new map, and click the my location option (right button top option) it will provide you with your triangulated location and is usually pretty close.

Seeing as Sprint (and therefore the Mogul) and AT&T (Hermes) use totally different radio technologies, I'm surprised that no one mentioned this earlier.
The Hermes is a GSM phone, operating on the GSM cell systems around the world.
The Mogul, being a Sprint phone, should function primarily on CDMA, just like Verizon.
That said, the hardware differences alone (processor aside) should make this discussion moot in my opinion. You just can't use a CDMA radio ROM on a GSM radio... and I would be highly surprised if the Mogul and Hermes were anything more than just similar looking phones.
Just as a side note... Google Maps now works moderately well on the Hermes, even without a GPS. I'm unsure if this is due to AT&T adding location information or to GMM being able to figure it out, but my phone knows where it is when I run GMM.
-Steve

Bluetooth Tethering PLEASE!!!!!

I don't know if this topic has been bandied about on this forum. I've searched quite a bit and I haven't found anything. Is there any reason why MS has not released BT PAN on our stacks? I know the carriers have the ultimate say on methods used for tethering but not even the factory unlocked models have this wonderful feature. Wi-Fi tethering is nice and all, but it drains batteries like nobody's business, and if you're tethering to a tablet now you have two batteries dying a quick death. One of my favorite features of Windows Mobile after version 5 aku 3 was the internet sharing through either USB or BT. The speeds over BT were the same as any Wi-Fi tethering since it is the phone's same 3G signal anyway. Bluetooth tethering consumes a lot less power than Wi-Fi and with the PAN profile we also get the benefit of file transfer. ARGH!!!!! I hate having to carry an old POS WM6.5 device in my bag for the oft times I need to jack up my laptop when I'm out in the field. If anybody with any kind of influence with MS is reading, can you also throw in the MAP profile while you're at it? Please? Pretty please? With sugar......

This is an exact copy of the same thread that you posted at WPCentral, not enough answers over there for you?

prohibido_por_la_ley said:
This is an exact copy of the same thread that you posted at WPCentral, not enough answers over there for you?
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What rock do you live under? I didn't discover warm water here fella, lots of people do this. Do you not hear the same news from umpteen different sources? If you only follow one forum you may be missing out on something.

Hey, fatclue, why do you think that WiFi drains the battery more than Bluetooth? "A lot less power"... Another Magpir user? Any proof: links, spreadsheets, specs, numbers? Or just "from my own WinMo experience"?
BTW, nobody will ever make these ROM modifications - nor manufacturers neither whitehats - 'cause nobody needs it (except you). So, just forget about it. "PLEEEEEEEASE" (even with huge characters!) will not help

sensboston said:
Hey, fatclue, why do you think that WiFi drains the battery more than Bluetooth? "A lot less power"... Another Magpir user? Any proof: links, spreadsheets, specs, numbers? Or just "from my own WinMo experience"?
BTW, nobody will ever make these ROM modifications - nor manufacturers neither whitehats - 'cause nobody needs it (except you). So, just forget about it. "PLEEEEEEEASE" (even with huge characters!) will not help
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Dude, come on. It is widely accepted that a BT radio consumes less power than a Wi-Fi radio. No, I don't have the back-up because it is widely accepted as much as anything else. Do you also need proof if someone tells you the speed of light is approximately 186,000 fps? You must also be one of those idiots that want to see Obama's birth certificate. BT PAN is a very useful profile and I'm not the only one who would prefer to have it. Search around other platforms and you'll see for yourself, or do you want me to do the work for you as well? Would you like links or do you prefer pictures so you don't have to actually read.

fatclue said:
Dude, come on. It is widely accepted that a BT radio consumes less power than a Wi-Fi radio. No, I don't have the back-up because it is widely accepted as much as anything else. Do you also need proof if someone tells you the speed of light is approximately 186,000 fps? You must also be one of those idiots that want to see Obama's birth certificate.
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Mmm... yeah dude. I need to see proof of that. I'm not saying you're lying but that doesn't sound right to me. You may want to check your facts before haranguing people on a forum.
You may have had a very good point here but it just got destroyed by an epic own goal.
Jus' sayin'

sitizenx said:
Mmm... yeah dude. I need to see proof of that. I'm not saying you're lying but that doesn't sound right to me. You may want to check your facts before haranguing people on a forum.
You may have had a very good point here but it just got destroyed by an epic own goal.
Jus' sayin'
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My bad, miles per second not feet per second. In my line of work I'm used to feet/second. If you consider Colorado University a respectable enough source, read on.
http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/waves_particles/lightspeed_evidence.html

Why's everyone being so mean? Damn, its as simply as someone creating a rom capable of using it but having it turned off for those who don't use it. Its simple. No like anyone needs to get on his case.
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jaywillsoul said:
Why's everyone being so mean? Damn, its as simply as someone creating a rom capable of using it but having it turned off for those who don't use it. Its simple. No like anyone needs to get on his case.
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It's cool, sitizenx posted my partial post in big red bold letters and I realized my mistake and I owned up to it and clarified. I'm not perfect, only my teacher is (Jesus). I can't walk on water or turn water into wine, but I've been known to turn Mad Dog (MD 20/20 for the uninformed) into a chunky liquid, but that's another story.

Mad Dog? That's pretty ghetto.
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Enough off topic here. Double thread anyway. Thread closed.

Thesis Topic

Greetings all
im currently looking for a thesis topic to graduate, and im interested in NFC
My supervisor asked me to prepare a proposal about the subject, he suggested that i choose an "application" or a certain aspect of NFC to study, i have an idea about maybe doing a comparing study about NFC Security techniques and methods, since one payment is probably the most famous application of NFC, however i cant really say that i know much about NFC, in fact i barely know anything about it, i'm a telecom student, and i'd appreciate if some of you can point me to some reading material or give me some pointers that wud help me preparing the proposal and eventually the thesis itself.
thanx in advance and best regards to all

Well since nobody else has replied to this, I'll help you out. NFC is short for near field communication. NFC builds on RFID systems that allows two way communication between end points. RFID was first patented in 1983. That's pretty general, I know a lot about NFC so if you have any specific questions I can help you there.
For more general information I'd recommend http://www.nearfieldcommunication.org
Good luck with your thesis my friend!
Just don't say you got help from a 15 year old...
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Thesis approach
Downloadaholik said:
Greetings all
im currently looking for a thesis topic to graduate, and im interested in NFC
My supervisor asked me to prepare a proposal about the subject, he suggested that i choose an "application" or a certain aspect of NFC to study, i have an idea about maybe doing a comparing study about NFC Security techniques and methods, since one payment is probably the most famous application of NFC, however i cant really say that i know much about NFC, in fact i barely know anything about it, i'm a telecom student, and i'd appreciate if some of you can point me to some reading material or give me some pointers that wud help me preparing the proposal and eventually the thesis itself.
thanx in advance and best regards to all
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Security seems to be a main concern this days. NFC advantages are aplenty, however no one is really concerned about the security aspect of it. i.e. hacking NFC or being able to track a person by their NFC capable phone etc. etc.
I would show that NFC can be easily read for instance passports, credit cards etc... Show the techniques used to circumvent reading i.e. hashing, pin codes.
In the end describe a theoretical approach that it can make nfc's security better.
In the end you just need to be able to defend your approach against other professors so keep in mind you need to be well aware of the subject.
This is my idea and this is how i would approach the subject. Im sure there are hundreds of other applications out there that you can ellaborate on.
Sounds cool though good luck.

thank you all
@Truitt.Jack its not a problem for me to get help from a fifteen years old, if you are good at what you do
who cares how old are you
@ Sofitos : thanks for the advice, i'll look into it