Windows Live 10.6 - P3300, MDA Compact III General

Hoe can i install Windows Live 10.6 in HTC p3300
download from Windows Live 10.6
http://www.pocket-pc-design.fr/

Copy it to the device memory and start it from there. It's a .CAB file.

I've installed it on my HTC Artemis. Before the installation i'va on my device 24,56 MB of free memory. After the installation i've left 10 MB and after the dininstallation of WL 10.6 i've only 13 MB! And the other 11 MB??? Also, after that i've removed the program my Artemis is tooooo sloooowwwww!!!!

Did u delete the cab after it bout 11mb.... isn't it? I run 10.6 and it's great.
fabbio87 said:
I've installed it on my HTC Artemis. Before the installation i'va on my device 24,56 MB of free memory. After the installation i've left 10 MB and after the dininstallation of WL 10.6 i've only 13 MB! And the other 11 MB??? Also, after that i've removed the program my Artemis is tooooo sloooowwwww!!!!
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works great, but dont like how it adds all the msn contacts to the contact list, anyway of doing that? i disabled the option in messenger, but before signing in it says, it has to add all the contacts to the address book

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dnj04 WM6.1 build 19209 ROM **Updated 01-APR-2008***

I generally post over at PPC Geeks, but noticed not many ROMS are available on XDA, so I thought I would post my latest ROM here as well.
*** Updated 01-Apr-2008 ***
v16 now available.
HTML:
Windows Mobile Version
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6.1
CE OS Version
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5.2.19199 build 19209
Apps:
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HTC Home Plugin 6-Tab * From DUO with Contacts Tab
HTC Keyboard * From Sprint Touch, not DUO, XT9 Dictionary working :)
HTC Streaming Media Player
HTC Album * From Sprint TOuch
Esmertec Java * Thanks to No2Chem
HTC Large Start Menu * From Sprint Touch
HTC Wait Animation * Replace Beach ball when waiting
HTC Long press End Key
Sprint VoiceMail Today Plugin * Notifies you on today screen if you have voicemail
Windows Live/Messenger * From the Sprint Touch Factory ROM
Blue Cube Icones * Thanks to BRLE, they are from his Kitchen
Vista Dialer * Thanks to Polen
Vista Keyboard * Thanks to Polen
HTC "X" Button Task Manager * From Sprint Touch
HTC Random Access * Quick Scroll for contacts
##DATA#, ##DEBUG# working * Allows access to system menus
Fix Windows Task Manager Icon * Makes it like the programs menu
Touch skinned Calculator * SPB Calculator with Touch Skin
Bluetooth File Transfers Fix * Added files for Bluetooth File Transfers
Bluetooth File Transfers Fix * Addtional items added to help resolve issues
DCIM disabled on Camera * Using storeage card, pictures and video will be saved \My Documents\My Pictures on card.
Update Power.exe version * Using the version that came with the Touch ( v1.22, was using 1.03 )
PocketRar 3.71 * Use for Zip and RAR Files free app from rarlabs.
Other Changes:
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**Fixed ActiveSync issues with Copying files to SD Card
Changed Boot and Windows Splash
HTC Black is default Theme * Only thing that happens during autorun at first boot, so no need to soft reset
Enabled ClearType
Added Transcriber back
Fixed Issue with Camera/Settings Screen.
Disabled/Removed Error Reporting Icon
Disabled and Remove customer Experience
Changed PIE Home page to PPC Geeks WAP
Added You Tube and Google to PIE Favorites
Removed Sprint Boot Animation
SYS From Cingular Kaiser Release ( Remote Desktop and MS Voice Command added )
XIP from UK Vodafone release
Page Pool
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12mb
Download here!
Here is a .CAB file to add the stock Touch keyboard and dialer skins for those that prefer them over the Vista.
Hey so where can I get your rom?
I'm a newbie. Just finish running the Vogue Unlocker.
Synced my phone on my Vista PC with Windows Mobile Center
everything is good
and just finish running PIMBackup
LycanNyc said:
Hey so where can I get your rom?
I'm a newbie. Just finish running the Vogue Unlocker.
Synced my phone on my Vista PC with Windows Mobile Center
everything is good
and just finish running PIMBackup
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Click on the "Download Here" link on the first post and download the .nbh file (v15 is the latest)
dereknjenny04 said:
Click on the "Download Here" link on the first post and download the .nbh file (v15 is the latest)
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Got it.. downloading
The instructions in the ReadMe.txt I hope ?
Dude !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love this rom , I love the custom boot images .. everything
So far so good.. I wish in future roms they would tweak the registry a bit (TouchFLO and TouchPanel) ..
I noticed it boots up super fast !!! I love this
But when I go into Weather Plugin in HTC Home it goes in and exits right away.
Also the top bar for taskmanager and etc seems to be disabled
6mb storage used
85mb FREE of memory wow
I just flashed this rom this morning. VERY NICE. I love your cube setup. Very well thought out. Thank you for all your hard work. Quick question. I saw the page pool is 6 mb. Is there any advantage to having a larger page pool. Is that similar to the page file in Windows???????
Thanks Again. Please keep them cooking.....
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I just flashed this rom this morning. VERY NICE. I love your cube setup. Very well thought out. Thank you for all your hard work. Quick question. I saw the page pool is 6 mb. Is there any advantage to having a larger page pool. Is that similar to the page file in Windows???????
Thanks Again. Please keep them cooking.....
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Yea I'm wondering the samething
I just bumped up the page pool to 32mb and OMG is it fast......Really easy to do and I still have almost 60mb of RAM left. Seems much, much faster.......
ptfdmedic said:
I just bumped up the page pool to 32mb and OMG is it fast......Really easy to do and I still have almost 60mb of RAM left. Seems much, much faster.......
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I've tried 3 ROMs with PagePool 6mb and they all perform fast .
How do you change pagepool ?
The way I did was through the PagePool Changer program. You run the program on your pc and then locate the image file and select the size of the PagePool and it changes it inside the image file. Then you reflash and restore your backup if you have it. My touch runs much faster and smoother now then it did before. The only disadvantage to do this is it takes away fro you availble RAM. But the vogue has 105 MB or RAM so even after I moved to 32mb pagepool I still had like 60-80 mb of free ram. That is more then twice that of the Mogul. If I can find the like I will post it......
Here is the link... http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17963
Download the ROM and extract. The pagepool changer is in there. You can use any ROM.
Hope this helps. Props to the guys over at PPCGEEKS for this one...
ptfdmedic said:
Here is the link... http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17963
Download the ROM and extract. The pagepool changer is in there. You can use any ROM.
Hope this helps. Props to the guys over at PPCGEEKS for this one...
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Thanks.. i still didn't get it
But GhettoFreeRyders is the fastest ROM I ever used compared to OMJs and DNJ ROm.. But OMJ is the only ROm that has the Windows Update.
LycanNyc said:
Thanks.. i still didn't get it
But GhettoFreeRyders is the fastest ROM I ever used compared to OMJs and DNJ ROm.. But OMJ is the only ROm that has the Windows Update.
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We remove Windows Update because there are never any updates, so it just takes up space.
I just finished uploading v16. It is build on the 19209 Windows 6.1 release and went back to 19199 XIP from Kaiser Vodafone.
It also fixed an issue with not being able to copy/modify files on the Storage card via ActiveSync.
The latest build has Remote Desktop and MS Voice Command.
I also bumped the Pagepool back to 12mb, which is what the Vogue comes with from the factory.
dereknjenny04 said:
We remove Windows Update because there are never any updates, so it just takes up space.
I just finished uploading v16. It is build on the 19209 Windows 6.1 release and went back to 19199 XIP from Kaiser Vodafone.
It also fixed an issue with not being able to copy/modify files on the Storage card via ActiveSync.
The latest build has Remote Desktop and MS Voice Command.
I also bumped the Pagepool back to 12mb, which is what the Vogue comes with from the factory.
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WOW yes.. I noticed couldn't copy/modify files on storage card via activesync on XP.. but never had that problem in Vista
So what was the reason for going back to 19199 ? the copy/modify files on SD via ActiveSync in XP ?
LycanNyc said:
WOW yes.. I noticed couldn't copy/modify files on storage card via activesync on XP.. but never had that problem in Vista
So what was the reason for going back to 19199 ? the copy/modify files on SD via ActiveSync in XP ?
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5.2.19199 is just the CE OS Build. The Windows 6.1 version is 19209.
As there is no clear documentation on what each CE OS Build does, I decided to switch back mainly for stability. I got a lot better feedback from ROMS based on that XIP, and didn't see any advantage in using the later XIP.
Eventually I will port the XIP from 19209 release Kaiser, but will be a while as I am short on free time this week.
The SD Card issue was a security policy that needed to be relaxed.
Also, I noticed that I forgot to add Windows Messenger into the build.
-Derek
dereknjenny04 said:
5.2.19199 is just the CE OS Build. The Windows 6.1 version is 19209.
As there is no clear documentation on what each CE OS Build does, I decided to switch back mainly for stability. I got a lot better feedback from ROMS based on that XIP, and didn't see any advantage in using the later XIP.
Eventually I will port the XIP from 19209 release Kaiser, but will be a while as I am short on free time this week.
The SD Card issue was a security policy that needed to be relaxed.
Also, I noticed that I forgot to add Windows Messenger into the build.
-Derek
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No Problem, hopefully the Vogue users over here get this ROM
As we are on PPCGeeks as well
Much thanks on your work
Where did you get that Vista Keyboard and the HTC Clock ?
dereknjenny04 said:
We remove Windows Update because there are never any updates, so it just takes up space.
I just finished uploading v16. It is build on the 19209 Windows 6.1 release and went back to 19199 XIP from Kaiser Vodafone.
It also fixed an issue with not being able to copy/modify files on the Storage card via ActiveSync.
The latest build has Remote Desktop and MS Voice Command.
I also bumped the Pagepool back to 12mb, which is what the Vogue comes with from the factory.
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i like your rom but the only thing that makes me stop using it is that ghettofree uses the telus OEM and i have sprint and for some reason i get way better reception with it than with the sprint oem. if you can make one using telus oem i would surely use yours as his freezes up alot.

Poor program memory using BEPE's ROM version 0.97 Premium GER

before i begin, i would like to know from us, how many program memory's left in our devices?
I have the last Bepe's ROM (0.97 Premium) installed, and some small programs on the intern main memory, they don't really use so much space and i don't think they are the reason of my memory lack, my program memory shows only 22,1 MB memory free, what about your own values...?
What can be the reason for having so a memory problem
I have noticed that most of the ROM developers don't include detailed information about the memory use of their ROMs.
usual values:
after a restart: 37 MB
by using TF3D: 28,86 MB
by using TF3D and some programs: 22 MB
Since you have the Diamond with 4Gb of Internal Memory, why not use it to install the programs?
The speed difference is barely noticiable and you will get more out of the machine memory.
Nevertheless make sure that you are not running some programs in the background. Try to make a soft reset and check how much memory you have immediately after the restart of the mobile. This is the maximum memory you will have.
lmbranco said:
Since you have the Diamond with 4Gb of Internal Memory, why not use it to install the programs?
The speed difference is barely noticiable and you will get more out of the machine memory.
Nevertheless make sure that you are not running some programs in the background. Try to make a soft reset and check how much memory you have immediately after the restart of the mobile. This is the maximum memory you will have.
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the 2 Programs installed on the main memory are not bigger that 900 Kb, it could not be that problem how i've said it before. After 2 restarts i obtained 37 MB, but i mean is still to slow....!!!!
Any ideas, about what can i do without to reflash again my device..??
THX
Are you running TouchFlo3D?
This is what is in Bepe's description of his Rom. As you can see without TouchFlo3D you have "only" 64Mb, since TouchFlo3D takes around 25Mb, this goes to the 37Mb you have.
Code:
# Premium Edition boot up memory
* RAM: 64.28 MB
* Storage: 115.92 MB
That is without activating TouchFLO 3D
My suggestion, try another Rom, Dutty's V1.5 is great, or check if Bepe has a more recent one.
lmbranco said:
Are you running TouchFlo3D?
This is what is in Bepe's description of his Rom. As you can see without TouchFlo3D you have "only" 64Mb, since TouchFlo3D takes around 25Mb, this goes to the 37Mb you have.
Code:
# Premium Edition boot up memory
* RAM: 64.28 MB
* Storage: 115.92 MB
That is without activating TouchFLO 3D
My suggestion, try another Rom, Dutty's V1.5 is great, or check if Bepe has a more recent one.
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I'm running TF3D but the memory values never arrive the 40 MB, just 37 MB by the restart, but it drops immediately to 26 MB when i scroll around the TF3D surface.
Actually I'm using BEPE's ROM because he released a GER version of the ROM, i was thinking to try with an original HTC ROM, but I'm not sure if i do it by now (reason time)
he say that , if you want to free some memory, you need to DESACTIVATE COMPLETELY TouchFlo3D ... without that, you can't have more free memory available.
hey guys...
I use BEPE's ROM version 0.97 Premium GER, too.
I've got no Problems with memory since flashing...
My Diamond runs now for a few hours, TF3D, ActiveSync and little tools are running and i received some mails and worked with it.
I've got TT7 and some little tools on "my device" installed.
After scrolling trought all Tabs of TF3D I already have...
78mb free file storage (Datenspeicher) of 122,91mb
41,84mb free ram (Programmspeicher) of 111,36mb
Everything runs fine and much better than the original old O² ROM
Jason
on swiftbl 5.0 rom I have 57meg free, ver nice,fast rom
if u have also tweaked your device that will also cost you memory data. If u tweaked the file cache and also other tweaks that are above 2 MB you have to add them also with the totaal used memory because the tweak uses the program memory so therfore always concider that in mind and also any tweak with cahe files !!

Artemis Diamondish Manila 2D Beta1

Hi all here is my first release of a manila Rom
Wanted testers to find faults (Bugs) in this rom, I have been useing it for about 2 weeks now and not found too much wrong with it just some minor tweaks,
Also if you Know the answer to the bug you find please post the fix and i will add it to next version
I have removed Windows live
and added apps are
SD Autorun
Arcsoft MMS 50.31
Black KB skin
HTC BT Explorer
HTC BT SAP
HTC BT BPP (Whats is this?)
Camera 4.03.27076
Diamond KB + Dialer
TomTom + Garmin Links only (Links to files on sd card details below)
HTC Network Plugin
HTC Network Wizard
Outlook Enhancement
Youtube QVGA
HTC Picture Enhancement
PIM Backup
Advance config 3.2
GPS Viewer
.NET CF 3.5
Soft Reset
Smartskey
Hbutton
BT IO
Freecell
Hibernate + Close All
*Jetware Handsfree Extension
*Monocube Safemode
Eten Phoneboost
Storage Manager
NoteM
Notepad
CrazyBubbles
WM Storage 1.8
* These are demo/trial versions unregistered
TOMTOM + GARMIN
Tomtom should be installed to
\storage Card\navigator\tomtom navigator.exe
this dosent matter what version but the exe name must be the same
GARMIN
\storage card\garmin\apps\wm\QPPC.exe (this is default install dir on storage card)
these are here to save me having to reinstall I will remove from offical release after testing
I Find this to be the fastest Manila rom i have had on my artemis.
MEMORY
Storage = 42.26 free
Program = 16.14 free
looking for a way to increase program memory
dont forget to uspl first
download from
http://rapidshare.com/files/151255393/RUU.rar.html
Many thanks
Gary
Youtube not working
kayserim said:
Youtube not working
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Whats not working with it,
Please explain a little more, as it is ok on my t-mobile mdac3 with GPRS connection
Can you tell the PagePool Size please ?
Maybe some more RAM could be get when lowering that value to 4MB.
Very nice, thanks you. Could you upload just Manila 2D OEM folder? because I want to cook my own Diamondish Manila 2D ROM with chinese font. thanks
This ROM is good, but still not as fast as YuE v11 Lite-M2D.
49Mb Storage Mem
22Mb Program Mem
Runs flawlessly even with stock Omap speeds.
incredulous said:
This ROM is good, but still not as fast as YuE v11 Lite-M2D.
49Mb Storage Mem
22Mb Program Mem
Runs flawlessly even with stock Omap speeds.
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if i could get oem+sys folders for yue i would give it a go
Excellent Rom
Great job, thanks!!! Youtube is working fine
In the update can you please add the following:
Latest build (I believe 20275 is the latest available)
When scrolling on 2D TF can you add colorful icons like on other 2D TF
Wtask or better program
HTC updated Photo album (Zoom in zoom out effect)
Thanks in advance
biranouran said:
Very nice, thanks you. Could you upload just Manila 2D OEM folder? because I want to cook my own Diamondish Manila 2D ROM with chinese font. thanks
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Same 4 me plz
mikegee said:
Same 4 me plz
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Will Do when i get home, if you can't wait i took the cab frem this forum somewhere and used pkgtool to create it
shahdave said:
Great job, thanks!!! Youtube is working fine
In the update can you please add the following:
Latest build (I believe 20275 is the latest available)
When scrolling on 2D TF can you add colorful icons like on other 2D TF
Wtask or better program
HTC updated Photo album (Zoom in zoom out effect)
Thanks in advance
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Easy, this is my first rom, If someone could teach me how to extract a rom into oem and sys then yes no probs but until then this is the base
Need a developer to help
Thats a tough one, only a developer would be able to guide you with that, I hope someone on this forum will be reading this message
garymeg said:
Easy, this is my first rom, If someone could teach me how to extract a rom into oem and sys then yes no probs but until then this is the base
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Need Help on my Kitchen !!!

hi,
my kitchen is based on Anryls WM6.1 - 19212 German Kitchen
the problem i got on my manila ROM (its a BS) is the RAM or Program storage,
when i put a SD in the slot i loose 9% of program storage
(program storage with no SD is 24,69 MB / with SD 20,56 MB or less)
so how can i fix this in my kitchen ? need minimum 22 MB with Storage card !
i need some registry settings or else that can help me, plz
greetz
Sorata4u
When a device has a storage card inserted, it'll always consume more RAM however, that's a bit too much. As a work-around, have you tried changing the pagepool to help increase the RAM?
no, PP is always on 4 MB in my ROMs, but now i had turn off my OEM Pack "Storage Manager Settings" from Starbas64 Big OEM package release this do not work well to the RAM of my ROMs. I had try without this, now it is with no SD at 23-24 MB and with SD on 22 MB after 1st boot, after i add my apps i used my hermes more then 8 h i got with SD card 20,78 (i used in this time : W.V.D., youtubeplay, TCPMP and some other apps), i think for a manila2d ROM with BS (thx to joshkoss for the BS-NonBS pack) its ok or is there something else to do to get more RAM ? i think i was too sleepy at that time, 36h i worked on this for my final release
Sorata4u said:
no, PP is always on 4 MB in my ROMs, but now i had turn off my OEM Pack "Storage Manager Settings" from Starbas64 Big OEM package release this do not work well to the RAM of my ROMs. I had try without this, now it is with no SD at 23-24 MB and with SD on 22 MB after 1st boot, after i add my apps i used my hermes more then 8 h i got with SD card 20,78 (i used in this time : W.V.D., youtubeplay, TCPMP and some other apps), i think for a manila2d ROM with BS (thx to joshkoss for the BS-NonBS pack) its ok or is there something else to do to get more RAM ? i think i was too sleepy at that time, 36h i worked on this for my final release
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try removing office and you might have a little more ram.. also be sure bluetooth audio gateway's are turned off.
can you try
using my boot RGU from my xip for 21109 attached here. and if that has same also try xip for 21109 attached
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using my boot RGU from my xip for 21109 attached here. and if that has same also try xip for 21109 attached
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ok i try it later today, thx
do u mean the 21109_XIP 1-18-09 from ur kitchen thread, i'm right?
EDIT: i used "Change Rominfo On first Flash screen" from ur tools but "by josh" is no changing to by S4 -_-'
you can get rid of IrDA and others, too:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Carkit]
"Flags"=dword:4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\IrCOMM]
"Flags"=dword:4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\SerialIR]
"Flags"=dword:4
and then you can play with cache settings in boot.rgu...
Next thing is to make some XIP modules from regular exe, dll and mui files - it can really give you some significant amounts of RAM.
@josh
had used ur xip 21109 and ur bs files works great(dont removed office and onenote but HTC Opal vol control and large titlebar[+3 MB RAM] ),after first boot free programm storage is with no SD in slot 24 MB and with SD 23,xx MB, internal data storage is at 39 MB, thx
changing the ROM-Info on first bootscreen works now
greetz
Sorata4u
Edit: after i used my device 4h (install apps &co.) free program storage is a bit lower than 23 MB it is 22,73 MB, add extra oxios memory if i need more RAM
Sorata4u said:
@josh
had used ur xip 21109 and ur bs files works great(dont removed office and onenote but HTC Opal vol control and large titlebar[+3 MB RAM] ),after first boot free programm storage is with no SD in slot 24 MB and with SD 23,xx MB, internal data storage is at 39 MB, thx
changing the ROM-Info on first bootscreen works now
greetz
Sorata4u
Edit: after i used my device 4h (install apps &co.) free program storage is a bit lower than 23 MB it is 22,73 MB, add extra oxios memory if i need more RAM
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Excellent sir!! congrats!!

[XDA Zest/Asus P565 ROM] Reasonable Minimal, rev3

ExtROM installer is not ready, so If you want to install few additional .cabs, go to \asus_rom in totalcmd.
Unpack archive and paste file to SD (non HC) card. Run PDA with dpad down key pressed.
WWE Language, build 21054
http://www.4shared.com/file/134616286/5532f981/XDA_Zest_minimal_rom_by_Globalbus_rel3.html
Free RAM 64,5 MB
Free Storage 168 MB
GPS Catcher
Phone Canvas + videocall
SIMMGR
solitaire, bubble breaker
WMP
Full Office
InboxExtender
nuefonts
Totalcmd
Task Manager v3.1
WM5NewMenu
Net CF 3.5
Preconfigurator (UC)
Oxios Hibernate
pshutxp
few tweaks
Sweet, thank you...has this been tested OK?
WM6.1....nice Based on an O2 original ROM?
is this rom works smoothly?
Sweet, thank you...has this been tested OK?
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Yes, tested. I don't have issues for 2 weeks.
I found only one bug, alarms not works property on vibrate/mute mode.
Based on an O2 original ROM?
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Yes, but extrom packages is now not obligatory.
update in first post
Thanks globalbus, what is different in rel 3?
Updated OS, removed bug in alarms, added few new tweaks (hold focus button -> display off), most .exe files are modules now.
another programs or settings
globalbus said:
ExtROM installer is not ready, so If you want to install few additional .cabs, go to \asus_rom in totalcmd.
Unpack archive and paste file to SD (non HC) card. Run PDA with dpad down key pressed.
WWE Language, build 21054
http://www.4shared.com/file/134616286/5532f981/XDA_Zest_minimal_rom_by_Globalbus_rel3.html
Free RAM 64,5 MB
Free Storage 168 MB
GPS Catcher
Phone Canvas + videocall
SIMMGR
solitaire, bubble breaker
WMP
Full Office
InboxExtender
nuefonts
Totalcmd
Task Manager v3.1
WM5NewMenu
Net CF 3.5
Preconfigurator (UC)
Oxios Hibernate
pshutxp
few tweaks
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Hi!
your ROM also included a "calculator" and "internet sharing link"?
the part of device about "setting" (system - personal - connection) is the same as the original XDA Zest/ASUS P565 wm6.1 ROM?
The WI-FI and Bluetooth connections works fine like the official(original) ROM?
my compliment for your hard work!
original calc has been removed. Intshare interface is still included.
the part of device about "setting" (system - personal - connection) is the same as the original XDA Zest/ASUS P565 wm6.1 ROM?
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probably yes, I don't remember it.
If anyone want to test my romkitchen for zest, send email message to me.

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