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how to downgrade ipl/spl for warranty reasons (currently running HardSPL)?

Hi,
I have the following question. I currently have installed HardSPLv7 (so the device shows IPL-1.04 / SPL-2.20Olipro.
How exactly do I downgrade to my old IPL-1.00 / SPL-1.06 in case I have to hand-in my device for warranty reasons? I already searched through the forum and read that it can be done using sspl somehow but I couldn't find exact instructions.
Can anybody (maybe pof) give detailed instructions on how to downgrade to original ipl/spl from a .nbh with the correct ipl/spl files. I already prepared a .nbh with a spl-1.06 and the corresponding IPL extracted from an original vendor rom and put in my rebuilt dumped rom.
I also have the problem that I don't know where to get IPL-1.00, because on the page where to original roms are listed only the SPL version is noted, but not which ipl is in which rom. Can anybody tell me where I can get an IPL-1.00 .nb file?
Thanks for any help on this. I also think that maybe it could be interesting to put this onto the wiki if I anybody can answer this.
Thanks for any help.

check you PM

It's already pretty much in the Wiki, maybe a 'downgrade' link would be prudent.
Upgrading and cooking: -> MrVanx Hermes upgrade guides -> SPL Downgrade Guide

IPL-1.00 / SPL-1.06? Is this working
Hi,
I just read through the mr vanx downgrade guide and found out that there is a downgrade package with IPL-1.00 and IPL-1.04 and a second one with IPL-1.01 and IPL-1.06.
Now, I have the problem that my device was shipped with IPL-1.00 and SPL-1.06? Apparently this is a strange combination as this is not downloadable at the mr vanx downgrade guide, so my question is. Can I simply extract the IPL-1.00 from one .nbh and SPL-1.06 from the other and recombine them using rombaker, or would a downgrade to this combination screw up my device?
Thanks for letting me know.

I'm on the same boat, I need to downgrade my JasJam to send it in.
I haven't researched at all yet, i've been pretty busy. when I get off work i'll look into it and see if I run into the problem your facing and we can atempt to solve it together.

fone_fanatic said:
I'm on the same boat, I need to downgrade my JasJam to send it in.
I haven't researched at all yet, i've been pretty busy. when I get off work i'll look into it and see if I run into the problem your facing and we can atempt to solve it together.
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Easiest thing to do is to download your original shipped ROM and extract the NBH file (using dutty's good nbh tool) and grab the IPL or SPL that you need and substitute that for the file from MrVanx. Just be careful what you flash - if you mix up the IPL and SPL file - InstaBrick! Trust me - I know

Do as ToddJG says, download the two files which i refer to in the guide.
Extract the IPLs and SPLs from the two files, mix and match.....BUT BE CAREFULL.......DONT FLASH UNLESS YOUR PREPARED TO DO IT.
ipl 1.00 and spl 1.06 will be fine.
make a single nbh from the mix and match combination then flash with customRUU.

What if i'm trying to flash the original shipped rom.. and i do the first step in your guide, then simply flash the shipped rom, or do i still have to extract the ipl and spl? (they're already extracted just wanting to know if its redundant if i recompile it with the rom i extracted them from.)

Ok, just succesfully downgraded to IPL-1.00 and SPL-1.06. Now i'm gonna flash back to an imate shipped WM5 rom. but one problem with that... clubimate.com is only showing the extroms which are around 6mb when downloaded.. where can i get the full imate rom?
also mrvanx what do u mean by this:
As with other downgrade guides this is NOT intended as a guide for claiming the warranty of the device having flashed components which are not authorised by the manufacturer or carrier.
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fone_fanatic said:
Ok, just succesfully downgraded to IPL-1.00 and SPL-1.06. Now i'm gonna flash back to an imate shipped WM5 rom. but one problem with that... clubimate.com is only showing the extroms which are around 6mb when downloaded.. where can i get the full imate rom?
also mrvanx what do u mean by this:
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It means that if you flashed unauthroized phone parts (like unofficial WM6 roms, radio upgrades and so on you have void your warranty). Of course if you can downgrade to your old rom nobody will notice that you did that.
But you have to be very careful on downgrading if you have also upgraded your radio I thinkk, cause you can brick your device (means having "NOGSM" after downgrading), see this note from mr. vanx downgrade guide for wm5:
NOTE: If your radio version is currently HIGHER than 1.27.00.00 then it is very likely the radio bootloader is version 0108, this WILL NOT allow the radio to be downgraded to a radio containing BL 0106 and will result in a "NO GSM" error.
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Maybe you should follow mr. vanx downgrade guide for wm5 to make sure your on the safe side.

I thought he meant that it is still noticeable if you downgrade the IPL and SPL that it would be detected during warranty repairs but thats not the case...
I emailed I-Mate and they gave me an RMA# and had me purchase the $60.00 Diagnostic package from PocketPcTechs.com(They handle imate warranties in the US). So i did that, they emailed me with a form i should fill out and include it with my device when i ship it...
Did that, they sent me an email when they recieved my device, 15min after that i recieved another email that they were working on my devic, then Early the next day i get an email saying repairs are complete and its being ready to get shipped back to me... 15min an email with a tracking number saying its shipped....
Everything worked so smoothly, warranty was accepted, hopefully everything will be good when i get the device back (which should be today) I want to get rid of this ****ty iphone so bad!

todd_jg said:
Easiest thing to do is to download your original shipped ROM and extract the NBH file (using dutty's good nbh tool) and grab the IPL or SPL that you need and substitute that for the file from MrVanx. Just be careful what you flash - if you mix up the IPL and SPL file - InstaBrick! Trust me - I know
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MrVanx instruction working just fine, however do not put your Hermes into Bootloader Mode. I've been trying the steps with my hermes in BootLoader Mode for many many times and it does not work. Leave it on OS mode. (Today) screen before you run the CustomRUU. Hope this help

why is every one so paranoid about this....
has anyone EVER heard of a warranty being denied because of the software on it?

GldRush98 said:
why is every one so paranoid about this....
has anyone EVER heard of a warranty being denied because of the software on it?
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Yup cingular/ att will charge you for out of warranty work if its a different rom

Please help
Guys I am having the same issue, I am exchanging my phone and need to downgrade. I followed MrVanx guide and downgraded to 1.10.olipro and now need to flash the original Cingular 8525 SPL back to the phone. The SPL that was shipped was 1.11. Where can I find the file to flash? I have been trying to find it with no luck. Could someone please help me out with this? Thank you very much!

thedude0420 said:
Guys I am having the same issue, I am exchanging my phone and need to downgrade. I followed MrVanx guide and downgraded to 1.10.olipro and now need to flash the original Cingular 8525 SPL back to the phone. The SPL that was shipped was 1.11. Where can I find the file to flash? I have been trying to find it with no luck. Could someone please help me out with this? Thank you very much!
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Go to the wiki > hermes > original shipped wm5 roms and then decompile the rom with duttys good nbh tool. You will see an spl.nb file. Make that alone into an nbh file using duttys good nbh tool. Then flash to your hermes using the custom ruu.
Since you have successfully followed mrv's guide, you should probably know what all those things are.

todd_jg said:
Go to the wiki > hermes > original shipped wm5 roms and then decompile the rom with duttys good nbh tool. You will see an spl.nb file. Make that alone into an nbh file using duttys good nbh tool. Then flash to your hermes using the custom ruu.
Since you have successfully followed mrv's guide, you should probably know what all those things are.
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Man thank you so much for the fast reply! Having downgraded to 1.10.olipro and downloading the original rom exe, when I ran it (accidentally) it flashed the 1.11 SPL back to the phone for me. I didn't even have to use duttys tool. THANKS AGAIN!

thedude0420 said:
Man thank you so much for the fast reply! Having downgraded to 1.10.olipro and downloading the original rom exe, when I ran it (accidentally) it flashed the 1.11 SPL back to the phone for me. I didn't even have to use duttys tool. THANKS AGAIN!
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No problem. I thought you already had the rom you wanted, but just needed to change the spl. Guess I gave the overly complex solution!

marcelser said:
Hi,
I have the following question. I currently have installed HardSPLv7 (so the device shows IPL-1.04 / SPL-2.20Olipro.
How exactly do I downgrade to my old IPL-1.00 / SPL-1.06 in case I have to hand-in my device for warranty reasons? I already searched through the forum and read that it can be done using sspl somehow but I couldn't find exact instructions.
Can anybody (maybe pof) give detailed instructions on how to downgrade to original ipl/spl from a .nbh with the correct ipl/spl files. I already prepared a .nbh with a spl-1.06 and the corresponding IPL extracted from an original vendor rom and put in my rebuilt dumped rom.
I also have the problem that I don't know where to get IPL-1.00, because on the page where to original roms are listed only the SPL version is noted, but not which ipl is in which rom. Can anybody tell me where I can get an IPL-1.00 .nb file?
Thanks for any help on this. I also think that maybe it could be interesting to put this onto the wiki if I anybody can answer this.
Thanks for any help.
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Hey, maybe i come to late,
I had the same "problem", I had the Screen Aligment Issue. And I really wonderd myself if o2 have problem with my "Schaps ROM Version HardSPL" BUT there was no problem, they solved my Screen Aligment Issue. Afterwards I asked, what actually is bad for warrenty. Upgrading the Bootloader is no problem. But CID (Costumer ID) unlocking will may be evil. Anyway's for myself (the SA-Issue) was a hardware issue which has nothing todo with software facts like upgrading the bootloader...
dont be worried... i guess there will be no prob...

SOFT-SPL ??

Hallo,
sorry für this question but is it possible to have a Soft-SPL instaed of a Hard-SPL to jump the SPL protection like the HTC-Prohet.
with my Old HTC Prophet i used always the Soft-SPL (copy some files in the Phone, run them and the phone boot in bootloader mode, then flash any ROM) so i do not need to worry about warranty or else! it is more secure than a Hard-SPL
is that not possible with our precious diamond?
Thanx in advance
WBR

This might not be a satisfying answer, but you can revert to a stock SPL at any time, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2324837#post2324837
-Alex

cptsunshine said:
This might not be a satisfying answer, but you can revert to a stock SPL at any time, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2324837#post2324837
-Alex
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yes i know that, but i do not want to swim in the Hard-SPL stories (change from 1.xx to 1.40, flashing, ROMS compatiblilty (some has problems with Hard-SPL after ROM flashing), reflash to stock SPL.. and so on..)
any way thanx for ur answer
WBR

the issue is not necessarily jumping the SPL protection.. Hard-spl remains on your phone and protects you in case of a bad flash.. it is removable and doesn't really make any sense to not use it unless you're desperate for a really expensive paperweight..

To answer your question, yes there is a kind of SoftSPL.
It was used to flash the HardSPL and is loaded by the batch, you executed.
It uses JumpSPL by pof and a modified mfg bootloader in .nb format.
Theoreticaly, you can take JumpSPL, the Bl.nb and a shortcut with the right arguments to the device storage and execute it.
Or use the SSPL from Developer HardSPL, it's one file.
And, no. I'll not explain more, because I won't write a How To for device bricking.
But it is highly recommended to use a HardSPL.
There is always a way back and in case of a crash, it may protect you from a nice brick.

It is safer to use HARD SPL.
DO NOT USE SOFT/JUMP SPL TO FLASH ROMS OR RADIOS.
THERE ARE CHANCES TO BRICK YOUR DeVICE USING JUMP/SOFT SPL.

sumitescp said:
It is safer to use HARD SPL.
DO NOT USE SOFT/JUMP SPL TO FLASH ROMS OR RADIOS.
THERE ARE CHANCES TO BRICK YOUR DeVICE USING JUMP/SOFT SPL.
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I'm totaly agree with that.

Thanx to all
vote for the HARD-SPL.... ;-)

sumitescp said:
It is safer to use HARD SPL.
DO NOT USE SOFT/JUMP SPL TO FLASH ROMS OR RADIOS.
THERE ARE CHANCES TO BRICK YOUR DeVICE USING JUMP/SOFT SPL.
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Re-flashing SPL is the most dangerous part.
To use SSPL you don't have to re-flash SPL, so it IS safer.
If OS doesn't boot though, SSPL can't be used. HSPL is your best bet if you want to flash just anything you come across without damaging SPL.

stepw said:
Re-flashing SPL is the most dangerous part.
To use SSPL you don't have to re-flash SPL, so it IS safer.
If OS doesn't boot though, SSPL can't be used. HSPL is your best bet if you want to flash just anything you come across without damaging SPL.
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Yeah but imagine your running sspl to install a rom, and your flash did not go well eventhough it completed the 100%. Now you are stuck on bootloader. You can´t do anything coz you did not have hard spl on. I think you can still recover using mtty.exe but that is a long thing. Do not take the risk of losing your phone forever by bricking it.

[HELP]HELP!!!!!

I Have Got An Orange Uk Diamond And Have Been Trying To Upgrade From Rom 1.37.405.1 Wwe To 1.93..... But Was Unsuccesfull. I Have Got Few Questions.
1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
I Maybe Asking For Too Much Here.
And Sorry Guys For The Newbie Questions. As It Might Have Already Been Answered A Million Times. I Just Couldnt Find Them.
Thanks In Advance.

When You Type In All Caps It Makes Your Words Normalised But Every Word Has A Capital Letter
Just In Case You Wanted To See Who The Idiots Were

yuv said:
I Have Got An Orange Uk Diamond And Have Been Trying To Upgrade From Rom 1.37.405.1 Wwe To 1.93..... But Was Unsuccesfull. I Have Got Few Questions.
1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
Yes but you need hardspl unsigned 1.34 or 1.40
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
Yes see post above
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
Mine is sim-free so cannot help you there but I am sure someone else can.
I Maybe Asking For Too Much Here.
And Sorry Guys For The Newbie Questions. As It Might Have Already Been Answered A Million Times. I Just Couldnt Find Them.
Thanks In Advance.
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1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
Yes but you need hardspl unsigned 1.34 or 1.40
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
Yes see post above
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
Mine is sim-free so cannot help you there but I am sure someone else can.

Since you're not giving any details I don't know what your exact issue is. It depends on your Phone and where you got it.
Most likely your issue can be resolved by reading the thread which I link to in my signature.

daleski75 said:
1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
Yes but you need hardspl unsigned 1.34 or 1.40
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
Yes see post above
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
Mine is sim-free so cannot help you there but I am sure someone else can.
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If you HardSPL you wont be able to install a standard HTC ROM without some faffing, I had this problem this week, so if your 1.93 is the released Standard OEM HTC one then dont HardSPL whatever you do.

thanks alot guys. what a quick response. and sorry for the caps lock if it got u confused.
as far as the details of the phone is concerened. its an orange UK contract phone with the ROM version 1.37.405.1 WWE radio 1.00.25.03. the phone hasnt been flashed at all. i did try to flash it to _QMR_RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE_1.93.405.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe but was unable to. i guess i should have hard spl it before.
i m guessing the only thing i need to do is to hard spl it right. or do i need to do something else as well.
again thanks alot guys for the quick responses.

hi tony.
i have actually tried to do it without hard spl but it would get stuck on 1%. is there any other way to do it. i believe the ROM i m trying to flash to is an official one as far as the thread i downloaded it from is concerend.

one thing to clear here. its the first time i m trying to flash from 1.37 to 1.93 official rom. could someone confirm that there is a 1.93... official rom available or is it one of the cooked ones. and could one confirm as well that i need to hard spl even flashing from oficial to official rom. coz two post before tony mentioned not to hard spl.
any ideas guys. thanks

Here's what I've just done, I hope it helps -
Vodafone UK to UK release HTC ROM.
1. I read the info here, over and over and asked lots of questions.
2. I checked the current SPL of my fone (Volume Down & Reset) and found I had 1.37.
3. Downloaded Hard SPL 1.37 UnSigned and installed it - Here was my first problem. Everyone just says use RUU to install hard SPL however the SPL's I downloaded didn't come with RUU so I took a guess and decided that RUU was a generic flasher which could also flash the SPL for me.
4. Use RUU to flash the SPL, mine reported V1.0 as the new ROM version but installed and rebooted perfectly to reveal the coloured screen informng that I did now have a Cooked SPL installed.
5. Followed the fisrt startup procedure that the phone asked me to do.
6. Flashed the new ROM in a similar way to flashing the Hard SPL.
7. Phone flashed ok and I'm just in the process of setting it up now.
One issue I did have was using Vista I had to right click and run as Administrator to make it work.

tonyb15re said:
If you HardSPL you wont be able to install a standard HTC ROM without some faffing, I had this problem this week, so if your 1.93 is the released Standard OEM HTC one then dont HardSPL whatever you do.
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wrong. if you use unsigned hardspl (aka "developer hardspl") it will flash HTC ROMs just fine
1.93 is also unsigned.

vrstu said:
3. Downloaded Hard SPL 1.37 UnSigned and installed it - Here was my first problem. Everyone just says use RUU to install hard SPL however the SPL's I downloaded didn't come with RUU so I took a guess and decided that RUU was a generic flasher which could also flash the SPL for me.
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who's "everyone"? this information is totally wrong, wrong, wrong.
next time you download an attachment from a post, read the post where the attachment was, and you won't have this problem (the post that had the unsigned hardspl 1.37 also talked about where to get the special SSPL RUU for it - have a guess. it is in the same post in another attachment).

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Rom 1.93 after hard spl

Hello. I have a question: i installed hard spl 1.24 in order to flash another radio rom and now i would like to update the main rom to the official 1,93 version. Under these circumstances is it safe or am i going to brick my phone? Just asking.. Thank you!

adinic2007 said:
Hello. I have a question: i installed hard spl 1.24 in order to flash another radio rom and now i would like to update the main rom to the official 1,93 version. Under these circumstances is it safe or am i going to brick my phone? Just asking.. Thank you!
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First of all, opening a thread is not the right thing to do for asking advice. about hard spl that means that you can flash whatever you want how many times you want without any restrictions you will not brick your phone if you do everything properly. by saying flashing everything you want I mean flashing everything from the DIAMOND FORUM. Please do not try to flash anything made for other devices. And next time ask the questions in its right place on this case you should have asked on the HARD SPL thread. Happy Flashing!

Is there USPL for htc diamond?

I've been reading and I see there's uspl for devices, for upgrading a rom without the need to upgrade to hard spl,
Is there uspl for htc diamond? Is it more dangerous for use?
Im asking because everything I found is related to hspl only.
I need to keep the option for restoring everything back for warrenty reasons, but I see its not possible to flash back to stock spl from internal storage, so I'm afraid one day maybe my usb slot will stop function and I wont be able to flash it using AS.
It may sound dumb, I know, but I want to make it carefully.
Is there any risks involved in using uspl instead of hspl?
I appreciate the help.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: I did found SSPL, though only for very old versions of radio and rom, Mine is 1.93 and radio 1.00.25.05

eranyanay said:
I've been reading and I see there's uspl for devices, for upgrading a rom without the need to upgrade to hard spl,
Is there uspl for htc diamond? Is it more dangerous for use?
Im asking because everything I found is related to hspl only.
I need to keep the option for restoring everything back for warrenty reasons, but I see its not possible to flash back to stock spl from internal storage, so I'm afraid one day maybe my usb slot will stop function and I wont be able to flash it using AS.
It may sound dumb, I know, but I want to make it carefully.
Is there any risks involved in using uspl instead of hspl?
I appreciate the help.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: I did found SSPL, though only for very old versions of radio and rom, Mine is 1.93 and radio 1.00.25.05
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Hahahaha, hi eranyanay, your worries have come true for me.. Couple of days ago, my Diamond stooped recognizing the usb port, and all the syncing and transferring have been done through bluetooth..
Now i can not revert to factory SPL, thou i have flashed a stock rom and put some of the original parts (bootloader, splashes and OS) back, just to try and make the warranty work (if they accept it )... we will see in the end
And, btw, i have been flashing and using HTCs for 3 years intensively now...

the_maker said:
Hahahaha, hi eranyanay, your worries have come true for me.. Couple of days ago, my Diamond stooped recognizing the usb port, and all the syncing and transferring have been done through bluetooth..
Now i can not revert to factory SPL, thou i have flashed a stock rom and put some of the original parts (bootloader, splashes and OS) back, just to try and make the warranty work (if they accept it )... we will see in the end
And, btw, i have been flashing and using HTCs for 3 years intensively now...
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Oh I know!
You're one of the reasons for my question.
Its just that I couldnt find any attention to sspl around here, only to hspl.