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O2 XDA II ROM

I have been offered a O2 XDA II but I am on Vodafone, it has been unlocked but I want to get rid of all the O2 things on it and make it like an i-mate. Is this possible and if so how?
Cheers

Hi,
I'm on Vodafone too, and it's quite easy to get rid of the O2 stuff. Simply go to Start/System/Remove Programs and you should find 3 O2 programs at the bottom of the list (assuming you've installed other stuff). These can be uninstalled.
NOTE : Before you do this, go into Start/System/Today and set the Today screen to Windows Default.
Don't worry if the uninstall shows things it can't delete, you can reset your XDA 2 and delete the offending directories if you wish afterwards.
I've done this process lots of times and it works great.
Hope this helps.

and if it complaine about missing something when starting up find the offending shortcut in windows\Startup and remove it

If you want to be 100% sure everything's gone and you have a an O2 free phone, then you will need to unlock the extended rom and rename the config.txt file to config.txt.bak or something, then hardreset. The device will not load the customisations and you will have a clean phone.
Afterwards unlock the extended rom and then selectively install the applications you want, - caller id, camera etc.
Cheerio
Howard

XDA IIi - Please help me !!

Hello Guys
Firstly, Ive been thru this forum and wiki and have tried various things without major success............Im now getting pretty fed-up.
Ive got an O2 XDA IIi, which Ive unlocked ready for my Orange Contract SIM.
My SIM works for phone and text, but keeps getting "no modem" errors if I try to connect GPRS.
Ive downloaded Resco and can see the Extended Rom folder.
Ive downloaded 3 or 4 different Ext Rom Unlockers - without success (Ive deleted each in turn, installed the next version and soft-reset as I went).
I actually have all of the Orange CAB files, which seem to load onto the PDA if i put them in My Docs and click each in turn - BUT, I still cant connect and all reverts back to O2 if I hard-reset.
So, now I have done a hard-reset and soft reset prior to O2 stuff being auto-installed from Ext Rom (?).
Im getting pretty frustrated at not being able to access the write-protected Ext Rom in order to swap the O2 stuff for my Orange settings.
PLEASE - can anyone give me some step-by-step instructions on what I can do ?
AND - let me know if Im looking in the totally wrong place to start with.
Thanks
Paul
My XDA IIi details are :-
Model No PH10C
Windows Mobile 2003 2nd Edtn
Processor Intel PXA272
Speed 520MHz
Flash Size 64MB
Memory 122.04MB
ROM Version 1.10.00 WWE
ROM Date 12/24/04
Radio Version 1.00.00
Protocol Version 1337.39
ExtROM Version - Not Showing as soft-reset during software load

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaRomkitchen
the last part
unhide your rom and unlock you rom
copy the cab files to the extented rom dir
edit the txt file to include the new added cab files
and remove the entry for the ones you are removing
hide and lock your rom
and hardreset

Thanks Rudegar
Unfortunately, Ive already tried the unlocker tool (and several different versions of them).
Ive just tried again with the one mentioned (it tells me that the software was written for an older version of windows software), and when i select Unhide, the image turns grey but nothing happens.
When I select unlock, i get an error message and "FL_IOCTL_BDTL_HW_PROTECTION"
When I click OK, i get "- A device attached to the system is not functioning."
Clicking OK again, gives me "extrom unlocked" - but it ISNT unlocked.
Any ideas ?
Thanks
Paul

Also,
As I can see the Ext Rom folder, I tried to edit the config.txt file (just to see if it could be edited).
I got a message "No Storage memory available. Tap Cancel, use File Explorer to delete some files and try again. Or, move the note to an alternative storage location. Tap discard to close the document without sving changes"
If I then try to move or delete the config.txt (or any other) file, I get "The media is write protected"
I then installed the Repart_DOC_with_Default tool to make the Ext Rom file larger.
Unfortunately, I get an error "FL_IOCTL_FORMAT_PHYSICAL_DRIVE failed" message and I cannot increase the folder size.
Anyone have any ideas please ?
Thanks
Paul

no if i were you i would try asking or looking in the apline forum because the IIi is alpine and there may be more people there who knows any special things you need to do to unlock alpine devices

Thanks Rudegar
Ive placed a link to this thread in the Alpine section, but as there are so few posts there Im not too hopeful.
Does anyone have any ideas on this please ?
I dont mind paying (or donating) a fair amount in order to get this sorted.
Cheers
Paul

For the mobile that can not unlock by the Extended ROM Unlocker, You have to use the method that DrChair posted here.
You have to find the start point of the ExtROM image which is in Fat16 format, by using Hex Editor and Find "eb fe 90 4d 53 57 49 4e 34 2e 31" (Hex). Copy from this location till 23.2 MB of file size. Open it as virtual disk, then you can do modification.

OMG - I thought things were complicated already.
Surely there must be an easier way to edit Extended Rom on XDA IIi ?
All of the other models appear to have fairly straightforward methods to edit - all except for the XDA IIi
Im afraid all of the link you gave has gone way above my head - it is far too complicated for me.
............
1. First dump your rom to a SD-card, using the well know method.
Which method ? - its not well known to me as i havent found it yet ?
2. Next get the rom to your pc, using ntrw
ntrw ?
3. Using a Hex-editor, copy 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) to a file.
ok, i think i will be able to do this.
4. Mount that file as a virtual Harddisk (I use the virtualdisk-plugin for total commander)
??
5. Modify your ExtROM on that Virtualdisk.
ok, i think i know what this means.
6. Umount the Virtualdisk.
??
7. paste the contents of the (modified) file back into the rom-file, at precicly the same position and save it under a different name.
can i do this if the files are write protected ?
8. put the modified rom back onto your SD-card, using ntrw.
? as per 2.
9. Flash your Magician, with the new rom.
Flash ? - and I dont have a Magician, I have an Alpine.
Anyone able to clarify all of this please ??
Paul

Since you are not that technical, I suggest you to forget about it. Or else you may destroy your IIi.
Be understand that architecture of IIi II and Mini are all different. Extended ROM of II is located at DOC (disk on Chip) ROM. But Mini and IIi are not. Mini Extended ROM is located at normal flash memory and not locked READ HERE. I think IIi is the same as Mini. So, wait for some good programmer or hacker to do it. Which may be forever.
You can get some flavour by reading Here. Eventhough you could not read the language, but all the pictures will tell you something.

but it should not be requred to add the stuff to the extented rom to get it to access gprs and mms it's just about putting in the settings
and making sure the right settings are used if there are still
the old settings there

Thanks Guys
I have copied several .cab files onto the PDA for Orange UK Contract settings.
My concerns are that I know the Extended Rom is full of references to O2 and will revert to O2 should I need to hard reset (unless I always keep Orange settings on my MMC).
BUT, Im not convinced that simply clicking onto the Orange .cab files has given me the correct set-up to access GPRS etc - as I cannot access at all.
I keep thinking that somewhere in the darkest depths of the system those original O2 settings are still controlling my PDA.
If someone can confirm for me that by installing and running all of the orange .cab files will indeed set-up the PDA for full Orange access (with no O2 settings running from within the Ext Rom), then I can cope with having to store a copy on my MMC.
Thank very much guys
Paul

if you search the networking forum with the text
GRPS AND <insert your cellphone company>
you are sure to find the right settings plus how to manualy set it up
and when you then sync with activesync you can set it to backup
your settings so if you hardreset you can just restore your backup
and get your settings the way they were

Orange GPRS Settings on 02 xda i
The settings are:-
In New Connections:
SELECT A MODEM = Cellular Line (GPRS)
ACCESS POINT NAME = orangeinternet
USER NAME = Blank
PASSWORD = Blank
DOMAIN = Blank
IN ADVANCED SETTINGS TCP/IP TAB
TICK User server assigned IP address
TICK Use Server Assigned Addresses - SERVERS TAB
You then tap on the G Symbol at the top of the screen and then tap on
Connect GPRS
Two seconds later you are connected.

Thanks Silverhill,
Unfortunately, those setings are already in the PDA and dont connect.
I get a "modem not found" error message.
I can connect with WAP dial-up, but not GPRS.
.....
I have now ordered both O2 AND Orange pre-pay SIM Cards (as they cost less than £10 for the two).
If I do a hard-reset and the O2 SIM doesnt work, I will know the PDA is faulty.
If it works, I can then load the Orange .cab files (after doing a soft-reset during the hard-reset so as not to pre-load O2 from the Ext Rom).
I will then try the Orange Pre-Pay SIM to see if that works.
If it doesnt, it would suggest that the O2 files on the Ext Rom are indeed controlling the settings - even though I stopped them from loading on the reset.
Other than that, I am totally stuffed.
It may be that I have to do a number port of my valuable mobile number and go onto the O2 network.
Cheers
Paul

OK
I received my new Orange PAYG Sim Card, registered it and it worked first time. (I did the same with the new O2 Sim and that worked too.)
Instant GPRS connection - wonderful.
SO, we know that the settings I have on my XDA IIi are correct for Orange and that there isn't any hardware conflict and also that my PDA is not faulty.
A quick phone call to Orange Tech Support AND THEY ASK YOU TO ENTER ALL OF THE SETTINGS AND TELL YOU THE PDA MAY NOT BE COMPATABLE WITH ORANGE !!!!
They really are useless !
I explain (argue) that the PDA must be compatable as the new Orange Sim works fine.
Im told that the only way to check is to go to an Orange Shop and ask them to test my Sim Card in one of their GPRS phones - "which will prove the Sim Card is perfectly OK and the problem is with the PDA" (their words).
I travel 25 miles to a shop and the Sim Card DOES NOT work in their phone.
The assistant offers to call Orange Tech for me to confirm the situation. After being kept on hold for 35 minutes, Orange inform her that my Sim is an older (brown in colour) card and it isnt possible to programme it for newer technologies.
The assistant asks for a new replacement for me and is told that because my PDA is not an Orange supported phone, there is no way for them to run a diagnostic check on it and therefore no way to be 100% sure the Sim is the problem - despite the Orange Sales Assistant confirming it does not work on their GPRS phone.
I am then informed that I can BUY a new Sim Card (blue in colour) for £20 that will work.
At this point I have spent a week trying various settings at home and have stood in the Orange shop for over an hour, so I agree to buy the new card.
Hopefully, it will arrive today or tomorrow and all will be well.
My only "worry" is that I still have all of the O2 settings on my extended rom - so I will keep looking on the forums over the next few months to see if anyone has any better solutions to those currently available.
Thanks everyone for you feedback and assistance.
Paul

buy?
odd when i had my old xda1 stolen i just called my cellphone company
and said it was stolen and they sendt me a new sim card
no charge
same thing had i lost it

Hi Rudegar
Yes - BUY
Ive been an Orange Contract customer for around 9 years (OK, so my monthly bill is only around £3).
They are happy to change my account to Orange World (GPRS enabled) and charge me an extra £4 a month min.
They are told by their own staff that my Sim is actually faulty - the Sim they originally supplied.
They are shown that the XDA IIi is not at fault.
And then they insist on charging me to be able to access the things they are charging me to access.
Like I said, Orange really are a joke.
I have actually placed my mobile phone number (it is pretty special) for sale on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rarely-Availa...429158530QQcategoryZ29781QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
When it sells, I will be moving network and will just go to pre-pay with any bog std number as my call charges and usage are so small.
Thanks
Paul
PS, I hope I wont get told off for plugging my ebay sale.

cant you transfer your nr to your new sim with another company ?
here you can but they take a month to do it guess as a punishment because the thing only takes them 1 sec

SCREAM !!!!!!!
OK, thats out of my system now.
Ive just had the new Orange Sim Card for my contract with them.
Ive tried to register it with them and they REFUSE to pair the new Sim with my XDAIIi
They inform me that because it is a non-Orange phone the insurance would be invalidated - I explained that I do NOT have any insurance to worry about invalidating.
I asked why they were happy to pair a new PAYG Sim Card with the phone a couple of days ago but not my Contract Sim Card.
Their reply was that "by pairing the PAYG Sim and the non-Orange handset, we get new business, but by pairing your contract with a non-Orange phone, we are losing money because you've performed a back-door upgrade".
CAN YOU BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE.
I havent a clue what to do next, as Im getting pretty fed-up of dealing with them.
Paul

lol brand now world where the customer is never right and a bit of a bother
and should count himself lucky that they want to talk to him at all
is at hand
take would take my business elsewhere and never look back
here orange just became more and more unpopular untill they sold their
department to telia and left the country

Back up and restore programs, setting

hi guys,
I've been following all the different threads and topics for a while and it has been a very nice friendly place to be in.
Anyhow.. i would like to know if someone can direct me to how to make a cab file which will input all my setting, owner name, install program a, b, c, d, e, f, g and etc then will fix up the registry key and enter all the serials i have brought in the past. This way i don't have to reinstall each program (both cab and exe) again after upgrade the ROM
I'musing Black 2.5 atm and looking forward to get balck 3 today
Thanks guys

Ditto!
I think such app would be very useful for all of us beta testers
Or taster of new flavours!
Maybe our chefs already has something like this that they use!

Some are in the works
JJ and walshieau are working on projects similar to this.
JJ has "Pimp my Black" which is HTweakC on steriods and walshieau is building an app that will restore your carrier settings.
Loading apps back on are easy, as long as you sync with a PC. They never uninstall from your PC, just simply re-check the ones you want to reload on your device and there they are again.
Backup programs like SPB and Sprite have known issues between builds, as I'm sure you know since you posted as if you've read the forums on this subject. Kudos.
It would be really cool if JJ and walshieau would combine forces and make that one killer app for all customizations to be saved to a file and restored once flashed, and if a customization were to have a format or length issue, then toss an error and let the user know. (hint, program spec??? )

I keep a backup on storage card of each of the roms I've tried...just in case.....I wonder if this is misguided somehow.
Thanks.

This is my current method:
put all the cab files (inc carrier setting -offline by walshieau) in the storage card and also along with all the serial numbers in there.
I tended to do things on the go (out of the house/ no pc) so if i happened to flash my phone before i leave my house then i will be able to install all the apps back by the time i get to work. Altho it's a lengthy instalaltion process (swapping the apps, folder, serial number, folder, app, enter rego).
i actually i was going to ask so if SPB backup and other back up will not work properly right? Say, i am using black 2.5 and backup here.... then upgrade to black 3 version then if i use restore program.. it will restore me back to 2.5 instad of 3 ... is this information correct? i read it somewhere....

I used SBP backup on Black 2.0 and then flashed 2.5 and restored from the 2.0 backup. It worked and shows the new com manager skin but it reports as 2.0 in the "about" screen so I know that this isn't the right way to go. Knowing that 3.0 was comming soon and considering that the device works great I've left it this way.
When 3.0 comes out I will load my apps and data without SBP. Then after it's up I will make a backup of the fresh 3.0 installation.

i am interested in such tools too although using the Dopod D810 aka Trinity.

RemE said:
I used SBP backup on Black 2.0 and then flashed 2.5 and restored from the 2.0 backup. It worked and shows the new com manager skin but it reports as 2.0 in the "about" screen so I know that this isn't the right way to go. Knowing that 3.0 was comming soon and considering that the device works great I've left it this way.
When 3.0 comes out I will load my apps and data without SBP. Then after it's up I will make a backup of the fresh 3.0 installation.
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I am using Sprite 5.1 and it does the backup and migration from Black 2.0 to 2.5 very well only have to redo my Wifi and Email settings, all my apps works fine. The FAQ to do it is available at Sprite's website on doing devie upgrade or OS upgrades with Sprite and WM5, works fine with WM6

Be aware that SPB Backup and Sprite Backup cant restore backups on different ROM's. Mobile Backup 2007 says it can but I havent tried it yet..
Dunno if I can post the follwing link but its the place you can get Mobile Backup:
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=157755&highlight=mobile+backup

I have Sprite but last time I used it on WM5 after a hard reset, it would not restore my data So I dumped it and went with SPB which has worked flawlessly ever since. I just don't see how any backup would work properly when restoring onto a different rom, I got away with it but I know that it's not 100% right now.

i was thinking of making my own cab file where specific to install
A, B, C, D....... G software (cab files), then install carrier setting, patch all the serial numbers to each softwares, change the look and all the setting in WM6 to match my like... damn it sound so hard and i don't even know how to make a cab file...
is something like this possible to learn?

I am slowly reducing the number of cabs I need to keep on my storage card by combining and creating them with my set ups.
As I have limited knowledge, this involves using sktracker to see exactly what changes were made in the registry when I changed a setting, and then using cabmanager to create a cab containing the reg settings (or say for spb weather, adding the changes to the original cab).
I understand that patching in the serials is not straightforward as it is not meant to be easy by design.
Am having trouble with some settings like email account setup, but am working through others.

crazyC: Im having the same trouble with email accounts. It doesnt look like they are saved in the registry settings, must be in the database somewhere.
Also if you add your own registry settings to the original Cab files do you know what order things are done? ie. if it writes your reg file then installs the app it might overwrite yours.

senergy said:
crazyC: Im having the same trouble with email accounts. It doesnt look like they are saved in the registry settings, must be in the database somewhere.
Also if you add your own registry settings to the original Cab files do you know what order things are done? ie. if it writes your reg file then installs the app it might overwrite yours.
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Yeah I don't know anything about creating the database entries so am going to have to leave that.
As for the second point - I am kind of winging it so to speak, so no I don't realy know.....
As I said, am most pleased with my custom SPB weather cab, as this installs the BBC template and sets up my work and home locations as the two tabs, linking off the bbc weather source.
Have also modified the Phone Alarm cab for my skin and settings, but as there is anew beta every few days at the mo, not so useful
Am about to start work on O2 plus, and setting up my shortcuts etc on install.

looking for mobile backup 2007...is this the one
trial here

CrazyC-
been messing around with the same ideas and it's driving me crazy ha.. Do you have to manually duplicate the registry entries you want when you're adding them to the original cab file (phone alarm, for instance)?
I was trying to extract the relevant registry entries, and have a program that would let me pack them into a cab, but everything i found wanted me to manually create registry keys..
any thoughts? cause it's flashing season ha

The safest way when going between ROMs is reinstalling. I use a few techniques.
1. Install CAB files from SD card. Then you just install them one by one by tapping. Installing from Activesync can be problematic memorywise as the CAB will copy down to main memory and then be deleted after installation. This can be an issue if you have too many apps to install at once.
2. Unless the new ROM has the same device ID, email settings really have to be manually entered each time. I experimented with workarounds but they simply don't work.
3. After you install all your programs, import registry keys containing your common settings. Before erasing the previous setting, do a registry dump and then search for and find those registry keys that contain the settings. Most (but not all) are in HKEY Current User. Be careful. Don't import stuff that might break the new ROM.
4. Copy files or shortcuts from old ROM to new one. Careful though - if you are going to copy directories, use Total Commander or something. SPB Backup and WM File Explorer will REMOVE the old contents of a directory and replace it with only the stuff you have in your new copy of the directory! Total Commander only updates the new items.
5. Unfortunately, the only way to REMOVE files or registry keys (short of writing a DLL file or fancy XML?) is to manually search and delete them. I think you could probably use Mortscript to automate this but not worth the time probably unless you are flashing every day.
Between copying certain files and registries, many of my programs end up 'pre registered' on the new system. (SPB time, etc.)
Actually, I make a cab file with my preferred settings and files. I just click and go. This covers pretty much everything except email. Unfortunately the program I use cost 89$... but when I consider my billable hours, it's worth the saved time over the long run.
I can get all programs + settings in place in about 40 minutes now.

Actually, I am using visual studio 2005 and making the adjustments to the emulator image, whilst watching the registry in the remote registry viewer. Once have identified the keys, I export them as reg files and then simply import them into cabmanager.
Depends on if you have access to VS2005.
I am sure there is a simpler way, (and am happy to learn it) but as I have occassional access to VS2005, this was how I decided to do it. Am using the WM6 SDK as well of course.
Because I keep updating the Phone Alarm beta, I actually modified the cab for the VisDaPhone skin to include my modified icons, and also to install the PA export file. Just running that cab after installing Phone alarm, and then importing the theme etc works for me. I did roll it all into one on an earlier version of PA, so it all started as per my settings, but then there was a new beta......

khammo01 said:
I can get all programs + settings in place in about 40 minutes now.
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I reckon (thanks to the exchange server) I can be back up in twenty!
If I can sort out the O2plus setup then I will reduce that as well.
I keep a word document on my sd card with a step by step guide for myself with serial numbers etc and settings.

khammo01 said:
Between copying certain files and registries, many of my programs end up 'pre registered' on the new system. (SPB time, etc.)
Actually, I make a cab file with my preferred settings and files. I just click and go. This covers pretty much everything except email. Unfortunately the program I use cost 89$... but when I consider my billable hours, it's worth the saved time over the long run.
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do yo mind telling what's the program name/url that woul dbe?

"Not Enough Memory" troubleshooting thread

So, some of you have this error, some dont. So lets try and figure it out. Heres what we know.
The problem affects ALL Artemis WM6 ROMS.
Remember, the issue doesnt appear when just using it normally. Its only under certain circumstances. Heres how you re-create the problem.
Run Tomtom, this causes the error90% of the time.
Create a new word document and try to save anywhere.
Heres my setup and what ive tried to fix it.
Device: MDA Compact III
SD Card: 1gb
Ive tried font cache size, system cache, removing the memory card.
Please dont post "I dont get the error" if you havnt tried running tomtom or saving a word document.
Thanks

To add to the problem re-creation, I was trying to copy a directory with around 15 files in it from the internal memory to the storage card, the message just kept popping up for all the duration of the copy process, I stoppped clicking ok eventually. I looked at the free program mempry available then and it was pretty good at around 22mb.
Device: Orbit XDA
SD Card: 1gb

I too have noticed that looking at the free storage space seems to fix it for tomtom (but not word). There is something else wrong with Excel in that the "Save As" is in the wrong place, infact where it is isnt actually save as.

You're right, I haven't noticed this before with excel. I can't remember if it was like this before, was it? It won't be easy figuring this little memory issue out. I hope someone has a trick up their sleeves.

I have the WM6 emulator running on my pc and the excel thing isnt there. Comparing the registry settings on the emulator with my device. I would love to hear if anyone does actually have Word working without issue.

BREAKTHROUGH!
OK. I installed the original Orbit rom and... IT WORKS!!!! So the question is what did bepe and the guys do when they de-branded it? The orbit rom has an Ext-Rom with a load of branded stuff PLUS! some patches. I bet one of these patches fixes the issue!
These custom roms have NO Ext-Rom at all, hence the increased storage space. however in the process of removing the ext rom they have managed to cause these memory errors.
So guys, any chance of a rom close to the Orbit rom but with the English language and Ext rom left in tack?

Great work mate, it is the removal/merging of the extended rom that's causing the problem then. Maybe it's not even a patch in the extended rom, maybe it's the way the extended rom was merged that's causing it. This surely deserves more looking into.
Great breakthrough

Word FIX!
Thanks to pvdhelm for the tip on this one. Attached is a patch to fix the memory issue with word (and only word). To fix it for other apps you need to view the memory in the control panel and click on "Storage Card". The word fix is pernament but the other memory issue it only until you reset your phone.

Absolutely brilliant, so it looks like missing registry entries!! We need to find out what was in the original extended rom then to find out if we're missing anything else. Looks like only me and you here, you should post this fix in the main threads mate.
Cheers and well done.

I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.

Maybe this is a clue for you all. I have never had these errors, ands I use Tomtom daily and have tested word for you again with no fault.
The difference? Well I upgraded to WM6.0 the original way before USPL patch and flashed the OS only. I'm assuming you with problems used the ROM installer method. Am I right with my assumption? If so that should narrow down the culprit.
I used Bepes original WM6 WWE OS only upgrade, therefore the Ext ROM on my device is still the old T-Mobile WM5 one and was simply not allowed to run. So it can't be right to assume there is something missing from an EXT ROM patch.

It's most certainly the extended rom being merged then, there's nothing else to it.

gajet, can you give me the exact steps you took. I went from the T-Mobile rom to Black and blue then to the others. I uses USPL first though.
Can you give me a quick set of steps you took i.e Original T-Mobile rom, then ran USPL, then updated to Bepes.
Also, if you used bepe's can you also tell me which rom update util you used? as the one ive tried has errors at the end.
Thanks

dannyoneill said:
I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
VERY interesting reading!
If you move this thread, please drop a link on here for us, thanks. The first one to crack this problem will be worshipped from afar I am sure!!

I think it could be an order of upgrade issue, heres the latest.
1. Downgraded to T-Mobile WM5 rom
2. Ran USPL
3. Upgraded to Bepe WM6 using the EXE version
The word issue is no longer there but the out of memory in Tomtom is. Also no ext rom.
It would be good to know from others and gajet what steps they took and which files they uses to do it. Especially as gajet still has his extended rom.

I've tried:
official t-mobile wm5 to german wm6 to bepe uspl &
official t-mobile wm5 to bepe uspl
Both times I have had the error with tomtom but no problems with word.
Both times temp fix (looking at storage) worked (sorry about font cache red herring - thought I was onto something there).
Just tied chi-tai extended battery plugin with the storage showing on the homepage (as a way to force system to get correct memory) but no joy.
I have htc touch com manager and phone skin but not the home plugin.
Cheers
Matt

I think Ive cracked it. Just doing some final testing but watch out for a new "How to" thread.

go Danny go.
Look forward to seeing it.
Will test and report back once you've posted.
Cheers
Matt

Sadly the original thread was edited to reflect the OS update was repackaged but eddie2k still goes on the reexplain the process in this thread.
eddie2k said:
then use winrar to unpack the (bepe) wm6 wwe rom in this page (written in red). flashed using bootloader method.
after u get german rom installed , run ARTE os flash utility from xda ftp (log in properly) link don't work if not logon properly..
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Artemis/arte.zip unpack
copy os.nb from first folder (bepe) wwe rom to arte folder and rename os.nb to windows.nb then run UpgradeRom.bat
hard reset, soft reset done.
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Now I didn't bother installing the german O2 release as my MDACIII was CID locked, so I just used ARTE package with Bepes WM6 .nb renamed and flashed the OS only, then after hard resetting, at the point of about to load EXT ROM soft reset.
This thread was also the guide although you could skip the process of extracting the .os from a ROM package as Bepe originally provided us with the raw windows.nb file.

Thanks gajet, Ive just posted the steps. Your post was deffinatly the key. Once I saw you still had your ext rom I knew we could do it.
Answer is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313486

Creating a ROM image

Hi all
From some research i've been doing i think i need to create a ROM image but i'll tell you my problem and let you recomend me a solution.
Basically i need to setup 30 PDA's (XDA Argon's running WM5.0) These PDA's will be running a program called service director and also have TOMTOM installed. What i need to be able to do is be able to create an "image" that i can just copy to each PDA to speed up deployment. It would also be useful should there be any problems in the field with the PDA's that they could just be hard reset back to their modified state after deployment. E.g with Service Director and TomTom installed. I have found out that if i create a folder on a memory card with a directory name of 2577 and put my .cabs in there that they will automatically be installed on insertion of the card. This could also be beneficial to me, but i don't think that it would be robust enough, especially if they drop the device and put their memory card back in after its popped out.
So what do you think my best options would be?
Thanks for any help in advance and if you need any info, just let me know.
Thanks
Andy

kingpin83 said:
Hi all
From some research i've been doing i think i need to create a ROM image but i'll tell you my problem and let you recomend me a solution.
Basically i need to setup 30 PDA's (XDA Argon's running WM5.0) These PDA's will be running a program called service director and also have TOMTOM installed. What i need to be able to do is be able to create an "image" that i can just copy to each PDA to speed up deployment. It would also be useful should there be any problems in the field with the PDA's that they could just be hard reset back to their modified state after deployment. E.g with Service Director and TomTom installed. I have found out that if i create a folder on a memory card with a directory name of 2577 and put my .cabs in there that they will automatically be installed on insertion of the card. This could also be beneficial to me, but i don't think that it would be robust enough, especially if they drop the device and put their memory card back in after its popped out.
So what do you think my best options would be?
Thanks for any help in advance and if you need any info, just let me know.
Thanks
Andy
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do the 2577 option but create an autorun program that installs the cab files and then deletes the 2577 folder, thus it wont re-install when the cab is re-inserted

That's ok, but then the engineer would then have to send the card back to us so that we could set it up again. E.g the card would only allow them to set the software back up once and then they would have to send the PDA back to us for us to reconfigure it should it go wrong again. We can't really afford to do this as they need the PDA to find their next job/update jobs etc and can't really afford to have it sent back to us everytime it goes wrong.

well there is currently no way flashing custom ROM's to the xda argon (HTC Panda?) and wont be until one or more devs get thier hands on one so burining it into the rom isnt an option. the only thing I can think of is to have it ask if you want to install the software when it is inserted rather than doing it automatically.

I didnt think it wouldve been available yet. Oh well, looks like i'll have to make it do it via the memory card for the moment. Like all brilliant companies mine just told me, here's what we want, now go and make it happen! Haha!
I take it the card will need to have some kind of .inf file on it to ask you whether you want to install it or not. I would try it, but my company havent even given me the PDA to play with yet.
All i have is an SPV M500(My own old phone) and knowing my luck, they won't work the same with the software we're using.

In that case, why dont you have the autorun RENAME the folder instead of delete it. Your users should then be able to rename it back in case of need (they should be able to do that!), and do the insert sd card thing.
kingpin83 said:
That's ok, but then the engineer would then have to send the card back to us so that we could set it up again. E.g the card would only allow them to set the software back up once and then they would have to send the PDA back to us for us to reconfigure it should it go wrong again. We can't really afford to do this as they need the PDA to find their next job/update jobs etc and can't really afford to have it sent back to us everytime it goes wrong.
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Why not on original installation have it delete the file from the folder and also have in the same folder a IE web shortcut to the original file on a Company server that would allow them to download the file again into the same folder, assuming they would have an internet connection and the file is not too large to download and you can direct the download to that particular folder?
They could then take out the card and re-insert it to automatically install the program again.
Maybe a poopoo idea, but I guess worth a thought?
Good luck
C

the autorun folder is the same for all devices with wm5/6 so thats fine and you would haev to write a progra to do it, not an inf.
if you cant do it yourself im sure someone else on the forum wouldnt mind for a modest donation (myself included)

kingpin83 said:
Basically i need to setup 30 PDA's.
What i need to be able to do is be able to create an "image" that i can just copy to each PDA to speed up deployment.
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A software called SPB Clone was specifically designed to meet this need:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/clone/?en
Regards