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Hi. Are there actually any ported ROMs for the Uni that allows a super-clean (i.e. purely Microsoft) WM5? Thanks.
This is exactly what i am here at the Forum for please someone step up?
Cause i foudn one in general by name one time but im not sure if they are shapped for the Universal
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A Clean version of WM5 shapped for the Uni if possible
I want to amke sure i do not lose any features
Please help thanks
rightnow im on the newest qtek but is actign weird so im going back to my orignal imate
don't install the extended ROM...
Can you explain SIMPLY which file is the extended ROM?
philby said:
Can you explain SIMPLY which file is the extended ROM?
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What "ady" meant was:
1st: Install Buzz's Ext ROM Unlocker and unlock your Ext ROM.
2nd: Cut and paste them to your SD Card and save a copy on your computer for backup.
3rd: Perform a hard reset. Since you already took off the Ext ROM, you now have a pure Microsoft OS running on your device.
To answer your question, the Ext ROM is what you see being installed when you perform a hard reset. It is indicated by a progress bar during installation after a hard reset. The Ext ROM contains the customizations provided by the "Brand" name of your device.
The simpliest way to avoid the installation of the Ext ROM, if you don't want to unlock it is:
1st: Perform a hard reset.
2nd: "IMMEDIATELY" perform a soft reset by pressing the reset pin as soon as you see the "Microsoft Today Screen". By doing this, the installation of the Ext ROM is by-passed.
If you are going to ask me where to find the Unlocker. Just do a search. Hope this cleared it up.
Thanks for the excellent reply. Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents? I am guessing this would be like selecting a corporate install on the O2 XDA EXEC?? Thanks again for any reply.
philby said:
Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents?
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Any customisations your operator has made. It's hard to say what exactly as that changes per ExtROM (and each new version of Windows Mobile by each operator has a new ExtROM so...)
If you don't install the ExtRom you have plain Windows Mobile, if you install the Extended ROM (which it will be default) it adds patches, customisations (backgrounds, sounds, GPRS settings etc), button configurations, home page settings, add icons, remove icons, custom programs etc.
My advise is to read the wiki (link in top left) open up your ExtendedROM as the poster above advised and then customise it how you want, or just by pass it completely each time and add in what you want manually.
philby said:
Thanks for the excellent reply. Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents? I am guessing this would be like selecting a corporate install on the O2 XDA EXEC?? Thanks again for any reply.
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xanth is absolutely right. The Ext ROM changes with each "Brand". I am attacching a link for the O2 Ext ROM explanation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32527
Some applications in the Ext ROM, you can deduce what it is made for like "default_Backgamon etc...(which installs the game backgamon in Imate Ext ROM) and some are similar to O2's, so let it be your guide.
why
you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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Actually ALL WORKS FINE with a clean install, as mentioned above, the only thing you might have to add is the settings for MMS, and video call capabilities. But ALL SOFTWARES INSTALLED WORKS. From BT to WiFi, camera app, voice dial, etc... I know because I already tried it.
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you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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Well that depends on the base Windows Mobile ROM. Some will have some features, while some won't (won't fit possibly?) and would require the ExtROM to install them.
I appreciate this is a Universal thread, but one example is the BlueAngel. The SX66 doesn't come with a camera so it's ROM doesn't contain camera software and if you used that on a regular BlueAngel (XDA IIs for example) you'd need to install the camera software seperately.
Hope this actually makes sense.
what about a real clean ROM...
i mean a ROM that does not contain any of those "dog barking" junks media files and themes (there is around 8MB of these), as well as unnecessary EXTROM files. YET sparing drivers for camera, bluetooth , and other crucial drivers.
thanx
go it
then you are correct to hard reset then soft reset before your device wants to load the ext-rom
unnecessary media files are not in the ext rom
they come with the winows folder and the my doc. they r more than 8mb , and they serving for NOTHING... so stopping the erom wont save you from them
This forum has been of great use ad all the experts seem to love it. I must say you guys rock.
I have an XDA Exec which has the O2 software built in. When I reset the device it automatically installs the O2 Active. I then remove it manually frm the Add Remove programs. I was wondering if there is any way by which I can remove the O2 software entirely or delete its installation files so that I can free more space and also remove the unwanted software.
Its simple, but, do use the search first
Anyway, you should unlock+unhide the extended rom and then manually delete those files from there
There is also an option during install that asks if you want a 'corporate' or personal install... if you select corporate, it bypasses all the O2 crap and does a clean OS install. It will ask you for a code when you select corporate, and if i remember correctly it's 0506.
Once you've installed as corporate, then it'd be worth unlocking the extROM like kdskamal says, that way you've got some extra storage space and don't have to do the corporate thing on every hard reset.
Hope it helps.
hi guys,
I've been following all the different threads and topics for a while and it has been a very nice friendly place to be in.
Anyhow.. i would like to know if someone can direct me to how to make a cab file which will input all my setting, owner name, install program a, b, c, d, e, f, g and etc then will fix up the registry key and enter all the serials i have brought in the past. This way i don't have to reinstall each program (both cab and exe) again after upgrade the ROM
I'musing Black 2.5 atm and looking forward to get balck 3 today
Thanks guys
Ditto!
I think such app would be very useful for all of us beta testers
Or taster of new flavours!
Maybe our chefs already has something like this that they use!
Some are in the works
JJ and walshieau are working on projects similar to this.
JJ has "Pimp my Black" which is HTweakC on steriods and walshieau is building an app that will restore your carrier settings.
Loading apps back on are easy, as long as you sync with a PC. They never uninstall from your PC, just simply re-check the ones you want to reload on your device and there they are again.
Backup programs like SPB and Sprite have known issues between builds, as I'm sure you know since you posted as if you've read the forums on this subject. Kudos.
It would be really cool if JJ and walshieau would combine forces and make that one killer app for all customizations to be saved to a file and restored once flashed, and if a customization were to have a format or length issue, then toss an error and let the user know. (hint, program spec??? )
I keep a backup on storage card of each of the roms I've tried...just in case.....I wonder if this is misguided somehow.
Thanks.
This is my current method:
put all the cab files (inc carrier setting -offline by walshieau) in the storage card and also along with all the serial numbers in there.
I tended to do things on the go (out of the house/ no pc) so if i happened to flash my phone before i leave my house then i will be able to install all the apps back by the time i get to work. Altho it's a lengthy instalaltion process (swapping the apps, folder, serial number, folder, app, enter rego).
i actually i was going to ask so if SPB backup and other back up will not work properly right? Say, i am using black 2.5 and backup here.... then upgrade to black 3 version then if i use restore program.. it will restore me back to 2.5 instad of 3 ... is this information correct? i read it somewhere....
I used SBP backup on Black 2.0 and then flashed 2.5 and restored from the 2.0 backup. It worked and shows the new com manager skin but it reports as 2.0 in the "about" screen so I know that this isn't the right way to go. Knowing that 3.0 was comming soon and considering that the device works great I've left it this way.
When 3.0 comes out I will load my apps and data without SBP. Then after it's up I will make a backup of the fresh 3.0 installation.
i am interested in such tools too although using the Dopod D810 aka Trinity.
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I used SBP backup on Black 2.0 and then flashed 2.5 and restored from the 2.0 backup. It worked and shows the new com manager skin but it reports as 2.0 in the "about" screen so I know that this isn't the right way to go. Knowing that 3.0 was comming soon and considering that the device works great I've left it this way.
When 3.0 comes out I will load my apps and data without SBP. Then after it's up I will make a backup of the fresh 3.0 installation.
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I am using Sprite 5.1 and it does the backup and migration from Black 2.0 to 2.5 very well only have to redo my Wifi and Email settings, all my apps works fine. The FAQ to do it is available at Sprite's website on doing devie upgrade or OS upgrades with Sprite and WM5, works fine with WM6
Be aware that SPB Backup and Sprite Backup cant restore backups on different ROM's. Mobile Backup 2007 says it can but I havent tried it yet..
Dunno if I can post the follwing link but its the place you can get Mobile Backup:
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=157755&highlight=mobile+backup
I have Sprite but last time I used it on WM5 after a hard reset, it would not restore my data So I dumped it and went with SPB which has worked flawlessly ever since. I just don't see how any backup would work properly when restoring onto a different rom, I got away with it but I know that it's not 100% right now.
i was thinking of making my own cab file where specific to install
A, B, C, D....... G software (cab files), then install carrier setting, patch all the serial numbers to each softwares, change the look and all the setting in WM6 to match my like... damn it sound so hard and i don't even know how to make a cab file...
is something like this possible to learn?
I am slowly reducing the number of cabs I need to keep on my storage card by combining and creating them with my set ups.
As I have limited knowledge, this involves using sktracker to see exactly what changes were made in the registry when I changed a setting, and then using cabmanager to create a cab containing the reg settings (or say for spb weather, adding the changes to the original cab).
I understand that patching in the serials is not straightforward as it is not meant to be easy by design.
Am having trouble with some settings like email account setup, but am working through others.
crazyC: Im having the same trouble with email accounts. It doesnt look like they are saved in the registry settings, must be in the database somewhere.
Also if you add your own registry settings to the original Cab files do you know what order things are done? ie. if it writes your reg file then installs the app it might overwrite yours.
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crazyC: Im having the same trouble with email accounts. It doesnt look like they are saved in the registry settings, must be in the database somewhere.
Also if you add your own registry settings to the original Cab files do you know what order things are done? ie. if it writes your reg file then installs the app it might overwrite yours.
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Yeah I don't know anything about creating the database entries so am going to have to leave that.
As for the second point - I am kind of winging it so to speak, so no I don't realy know.....
As I said, am most pleased with my custom SPB weather cab, as this installs the BBC template and sets up my work and home locations as the two tabs, linking off the bbc weather source.
Have also modified the Phone Alarm cab for my skin and settings, but as there is anew beta every few days at the mo, not so useful
Am about to start work on O2 plus, and setting up my shortcuts etc on install.
looking for mobile backup 2007...is this the one
trial here
CrazyC-
been messing around with the same ideas and it's driving me crazy ha.. Do you have to manually duplicate the registry entries you want when you're adding them to the original cab file (phone alarm, for instance)?
I was trying to extract the relevant registry entries, and have a program that would let me pack them into a cab, but everything i found wanted me to manually create registry keys..
any thoughts? cause it's flashing season ha
The safest way when going between ROMs is reinstalling. I use a few techniques.
1. Install CAB files from SD card. Then you just install them one by one by tapping. Installing from Activesync can be problematic memorywise as the CAB will copy down to main memory and then be deleted after installation. This can be an issue if you have too many apps to install at once.
2. Unless the new ROM has the same device ID, email settings really have to be manually entered each time. I experimented with workarounds but they simply don't work.
3. After you install all your programs, import registry keys containing your common settings. Before erasing the previous setting, do a registry dump and then search for and find those registry keys that contain the settings. Most (but not all) are in HKEY Current User. Be careful. Don't import stuff that might break the new ROM.
4. Copy files or shortcuts from old ROM to new one. Careful though - if you are going to copy directories, use Total Commander or something. SPB Backup and WM File Explorer will REMOVE the old contents of a directory and replace it with only the stuff you have in your new copy of the directory! Total Commander only updates the new items.
5. Unfortunately, the only way to REMOVE files or registry keys (short of writing a DLL file or fancy XML?) is to manually search and delete them. I think you could probably use Mortscript to automate this but not worth the time probably unless you are flashing every day.
Between copying certain files and registries, many of my programs end up 'pre registered' on the new system. (SPB time, etc.)
Actually, I make a cab file with my preferred settings and files. I just click and go. This covers pretty much everything except email. Unfortunately the program I use cost 89$... but when I consider my billable hours, it's worth the saved time over the long run.
I can get all programs + settings in place in about 40 minutes now.
Actually, I am using visual studio 2005 and making the adjustments to the emulator image, whilst watching the registry in the remote registry viewer. Once have identified the keys, I export them as reg files and then simply import them into cabmanager.
Depends on if you have access to VS2005.
I am sure there is a simpler way, (and am happy to learn it) but as I have occassional access to VS2005, this was how I decided to do it. Am using the WM6 SDK as well of course.
Because I keep updating the Phone Alarm beta, I actually modified the cab for the VisDaPhone skin to include my modified icons, and also to install the PA export file. Just running that cab after installing Phone alarm, and then importing the theme etc works for me. I did roll it all into one on an earlier version of PA, so it all started as per my settings, but then there was a new beta......
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I can get all programs + settings in place in about 40 minutes now.
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I reckon (thanks to the exchange server) I can be back up in twenty!
If I can sort out the O2plus setup then I will reduce that as well.
I keep a word document on my sd card with a step by step guide for myself with serial numbers etc and settings.
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Between copying certain files and registries, many of my programs end up 'pre registered' on the new system. (SPB time, etc.)
Actually, I make a cab file with my preferred settings and files. I just click and go. This covers pretty much everything except email. Unfortunately the program I use cost 89$... but when I consider my billable hours, it's worth the saved time over the long run.
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do yo mind telling what's the program name/url that woul dbe?
Revmove Program On Htc Dash
well, I have removed program thru the remove program utitlity but it still shows up on the home screen IcON.
HOw do i delete this icon?
does anyone konw???
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well, I have removed program thru the remove program utitlity but it still shows up on the home screen IcON.
HOw do i delete this icon?
does anyone konw???
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You are talking about MRU list, when you run program it places own icon into MRU list, if you don't want to wait, run 3-5 different programs and they pull out your "dead" icon.
Why can't I "Remove Programs"?
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I am using a S621 (aka S620, aka Excalibur, aka Dash) running WM6 and when I select Remove Programs (Start>Settings>More>Remove Programs) there are no programs on the list at all.
Ideas?
What is it that you want to remove? What 3rd party apps have you installed?
Any app that is part of the installed ROM won't show up in the remove programs.
If you install 50 or more apps to your device the remove program list will be blank when accessing it from settings. You will have to use activesync from your PC to remove programs.
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If you install 50 or more apps to your device the remove program list will be blank when accessing it from settings. You will have to use activesync from your PC to remove programs.
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Really? That is strange. That was probably the problem.
Anyways I had been meaning to change from the Russian ROM to the HTC Official one for a while anyways, so I just did that last night. So it doesn't matter anymore (as upgrading removed all my programs, of course), but that is good to know for the future. Thanks.
App Problem please help!
Hey I just appunlocked the dash and added google maps then windows live search and like live search way better but when i go to uninstall google it says it cannot completly uninstall and asks if i wanna remove it from the list of installed programs, but it still dosent dissapear please help! thanks
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Hey I just appunlocked the dash and added google maps then windows live search and like live search way better but when i go to uninstall google it says it cannot completly uninstall and asks if i wanna remove it from the list of installed programs, but it still dosent dissapear please help! thanks
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remove the programs from inside your cell.
Start -> Settings -> Add/Remove option
find the program in the list and select it
thats what im doing and it wont work and thats where im getting the message
please help
Need help REMoviNG application please?
I downloaded some applications that i decided that i didnt need (Yahoo Go, Streaming Media Player, Etc)
When i delete them out of my Folders, i still have the icon in the Start menu...is there anyway to remove the icon?
Thanks
Go to settings, page 2, click on remove programs, then choose which ones you want to remove.
If you have total commander you can take em off easily. just open total commaner, go to windows-start menu. Go to icon you want to remove and hit file softkey and delete. Takes off start menu.
Never Do That Unless Everything Else Isn't Possible
You should always go to remove programs like stated above. It's in Settings then more then remove programs. Always, do that instead of just deleting the folders. It removes everything.
Removing programs that come with rom
Hey was wondering if anyone knows how to uninstall programs such as Office mobile, command processor, orneta calculator, resco explorer, cele task just to name a few. I am running ricky's v23 and they were built into rom. I know i can flash to vanilla rom but I like the fact omap clock thats built in keeps setting on what you choose with no further need to set it again. Also like alot of his built in features so dont really wanna flash if i dont have to but wanna free up space and get rid of stuff i don't want. Any help is greatly appreciated!!!
As far as I know, you can't but there is a way but i think it is complicated. I don't quite remember what you are supposed to do but i think you'd have to basically re-cook the ROM to your personal preference. The best person to ask this would be rickywatt himself. Get in touch with him and he'll guide you in the right direction. hope everything works out the way you want it !
If you look in Rickys thread, previous ROMS, he has a "vanilla" version.
Thats the one you are looking for.
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If you look in Rickys thread, previous ROMS, he has a "vanilla" version.
Thats the one you are looking for.
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I think he just doesnt want to flash the phone, thats the reason why he was trying to find out on how to do it. it kinda takes some time to get the phone the way you like it after you flash it, I would like to know how to get rid of those programs as well with out having to flash the phone.
Remove Programs Problem
Hello,
I am trying to remove some programs I have installed, however when I go into settings > remove programs, the list is blank. I have let it sit for up to 10 minutes hoping that it would populate but no luck. I am able to remove programs with active sync. I have used the remove programs feature with no trouble in the past. Have any of you ever had this problem or know what could be preventing programs from showing up in the list?
How many programs did you have installed? I remember there used to be a problem with WM6.0 where, if you had over a certain number of programs installed, the list wouldn't display.
Ok I've read over the Wiki's and searched through the threads but to no avail. (Sorry if there is just didn't show in my search)
What I'm trying to do is restore my O2 Asia XDA IIs to its original factory setup but latest version.
I have the files
- ba_o2asia_14000_923_11200_ship.exe 41.2MB (41MB as original zip)
- O2_IIs_Asia_Ext_ROM_140923_WWE (folder with all contents) 15.5MB (6.5MB as original rar)
No clear guides have been written as no one seems to want to have the original setup. I want it because its much more responsive and faster (in my experience), and I will probably be selling this later on so I don't want someone trying to return it to me because the manual is incorrect—trust me people are thick enough, and will do everything they can to get there money back.
So if anyone can write clear instructions like how eXplode does.
Please do so.
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So far i have the original Rom installed but the Extended Rom will not install, autorun will show up and then disappear after doing nothing. So i installed all the cabs and well that wasn't a good idea it just bloated the hell out of the thing. Only partial of the files were meant to be run.
Side Question: Does the old windows roms not support formatting from the bootup? Tried the power + reset then record + camera and the menu did not show.
Thanks in Advance!!!
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If its help to anyone the extrom is located here http://xdadev.f1ip.net/data/XDA-Dev...ended_Roms/O2_IIs_Asia_Ext_ROM_140923_WWE.rar