What happens to Extended ROM after WM6 Install? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Hello,
I have newbie question which should be pretty quick to answer...
I have a Cingular 8525 with the stock 1.34.502.1 Cingular ROM.
I've unhidden and mounted the Extended ROM using htweakc 2.0
Now for the newbie question...
What happens to the Extended ROM if I upgrade to WM6?
Do the contents of the Extended ROM get deleted and partition stays intact?
Does the Extended ROM partition get deleted completely?
I've read the threads and guides on upgrading to WM6 but I didn't find any info related to the outcome of the Extended ROM.
Cheers to all

Stays
From what I've seen the extended ROM stays completely intact. I've loaded my different WM6 ROM's and my extended ROM has stayed the same. Just make sure if you load LVSW's rom that you get the one with just the OS. His official release is the full package which will erase and replace your Ext ROM.

joel32137 said:
Hello,
I have newbie question which should be pretty quick to answer...
I have a Cingular 8525 with the stock 1.34.502.1 Cingular ROM.
I've unhidden and mounted the Extended ROM using htweakc 2.0
Now for the newbie question...
What happens to the Extended ROM if I upgrade to WM6?
Do the contents of the Extended ROM get deleted and partition stays intact?
Does the Extended ROM partition get deleted completely?
I've read the threads and guides on upgrading to WM6 but I didn't find any info related to the outcome of the Extended ROM.
Cheers to all
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As the post above says your ext rom will stay intact.
How to flash:
WM6 XDA-Live 0.20.x
WM6 LVSW (26/3/07)
WM6 Black v1.2
Follow the guides you will be fine.

Thanks for the info MWillis561 and mrvanx
At least I know what to expect when I upgrade WM6 (hopefully this weekend).
Thanks again
MWillis561 said:
From what I've seen the extended ROM stays completely intact. I've loaded my different WM6 ROM's and my extended ROM has stayed the same. Just make sure if you load LVSW's rom that you get the one with just the OS. His official release is the full package which will erase and replace your Ext ROM.
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mrvanx you may want to update your guide the differences between flashing OS only and OS & Extrom.
Thanks for your wonderful quide for newbie like me

Sorry, that's just not true.
Extrom on LVSW will be wiped and replaced with the content of the .nbh; documents and/or important information needs to be backed up first.
Other rom upgrades on here may or may not have an Extrom component.
LVSW does have an Extrom component.

Hi LegolasTheElf,
I was going to use the LVSW version....
Quick question, does the structure of the Extended ROM partition change (meaning, the total Extended ROM size get larger or smaller? does the partition get deleted and created again?)
or
does the partition stay intact and the contents of the partition merely gets deleted and replaced with the LVSW Extended ROM contents?
Appreciate the advice
LegolasTheElf said:
Sorry, that's just not true.
Extrom on LVSW will be wiped and replaced with the content of the .nbh; documents and/or important information needs to be backed up first.
Other rom upgrades on here may or may not have an Extrom component.
LVSW does have an Extrom component.
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Today, I answered my own question....
I finally installed LVSW WM6 and it looks like the Extended ROM partition is intact with no changes in size but the contents does get deleted and is replaced with the LVSW WM6 Extended ROM contents.
joel32137 said:
Hi LegolasTheElf,
I was going to use the LVSW version....
Quick question, does the structure of the Extended ROM partition change (meaning, the total Extended ROM size get larger or smaller? does the partition get deleted and created again?)
or
does the partition stay intact and the contents of the partition merely gets deleted and replaced with the LVSW Extended ROM contents?
Appreciate the advice
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Have any of the Chef figured out how to use the EXT Rom for program memory or storage yet?

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need info on extended rom

hello just need to know how do i install programs in the unlocked ex rom as when installing apps from active sync it only has 2 options 1 divice or 2 memory card ..
also if i do a cold reset will the stuff in the unlocked ex rom be deleted?.
Does anybody know how to change the Ext ROM? I searched on buzzdev and this forum and didnt find anything.
I would want to make an Ext ROM because I'm trying the different AKU 3.2 beta's and am reinstalling a lot.
Cheers in advance.
have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251710
but why do you put your cab files in your unlocked extrom, install one of the aku 3.2 roms without the extrom and after that install you own cabs from your extrom?
I do it kind of this way with my sd card because I want to see what the guys put new in the extrom of the new aku3.2 variants.
calvin42 said:
have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251710
but why do you put your cab files in your unlocked extrom, install one of the aku 3.2 roms without the extrom and after that install you own cabs from your extrom?
I do it kind of this way with my sd card because I want to see what the guys put new in the extrom of the new aku3.2 variants.
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I'm not interrested at all in their ext ROMs, I know exactly what I want and where to get it (I just dont know how to include it in a ext ROM)
I'm in it for the best, most stable and fastest OS.

Backing up of ROM

Can i backup my original ROM thats on my wm nw?
Yes there are instruction on the wiki on how to do this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom
do u follow this instructions after i change the ROM? thanks
Do you just want to backup the OS or the data on there too? If it's just the OS, who are you with - maybe someone has done it already...
Smiffy.
just the OS, im with HTC wm5
Mr_GTI said:
Can i backup my original ROM thats on my wm nw?
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You might also want to take a look at the guide provided by Paul (and The Doctor) over at Modaco: http://www.modaco.com/Pauland39s-gu...nd-restoring-your-HTC-HERMES-ROM-t255090.html. I followed it and found no problems creating the ROM copy (RUU_signed.nbh) with the tool ued to flash that ROM back (RUUWrapper.exe). I have a T-Mobile UK WM5 build and wanted this as a means to get back to the ROM in the event of a warranty claim.
I have not used the ROM and would love to hear from anyone that may have used this method and whether they succeeded or not.
Regards
Hey Tony - yep exactly the same for me WM5 on UK Vario II. I followed the instructions on modaco and it works nicely Just remember to backup your extended ROM too in case one of the WM6 ROMs overwrites it (or download it via the wiki
I've followed the guide then flashed it back to check and it works but not fully because it was missing the ext rom stuff - put that back and everything was fine - as long as they don't look at IPl\SPL\RADIO ;-)
Smiffy.
Hmm, this sounds very promising, since I was wondering if this is possible.., once again I find out I love this board
Lordsmiff said:
Hey Tony - yep exactly the same for me WM5 on UK Vario II. I followed the instructions on modaco and it works nicely Just remember to backup your extended ROM too in case one of the WM6 ROMs overwrites it (or download it via the wiki
I've followed the guide then flashed it back to check and it works but not fully because it was missing the ext rom stuff - put that back and everything was fine - as long as they don't look at IPl\SPL\RADIO ;-)
Smiffy.
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Smiffy,
I read somewhere that it is possible to get back to the original IPL (1.01) and SPL (1.04) but I am not sure anyone has posted the original T-Mobile radio which was 1.05.05.00 on mine. Have you seen anything on this?
I would have thought that one of those skilled 'cooks' could put a ROM together that did exactly what we needed - but of course this would be only what we in the UK on T-Mobile with a Vario II wanted and the permutations would be be endless to cover everyones requirements.
I understand that a ROM 'could' be created that flashed the device completely back to its original state (WM5 build, IPL, SPL, radio and even Ext ROM) - anyone know of one that has been created? I know how to all the parts seperately now but lack at least the radio .

unhide/unlock ext_rom on dopod WM6!!!

Hi all, in difference of other roms, I ssen that with the last release of trinity rom by dopod, _I'm unable to unhide and unlock the extended rom, can someone help me to do it????
thanks!!
bye!
seems to be MANY problems with the rom.
AX3L has explained his findings so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1368985&postcount=468
I have from days new translated dopod rom, I dumped a nd inserted all programs that I like, modified start menus, selfcreated folders, insertder programs into controlpanel tabs, and it runs very well... my only problem is show and unlock extended rom, the other thinks are all ok!!!
ervius said:
Hi all, in difference of other roms, I ssen that with the last release of trinity rom by dopod, _I'm unable to unhide and unlock the extended rom, can someone help me to do it????
thanks!!
bye!
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I've got the solution!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297209
copy the patcher on your device...
execute it and then enable the extended_rom...
you now are able also to write files into it!!!
bye bye!!!
and thanks to the author of the patcher that patchs around 26000 bytes on original "dll"!!!!
I have the ANZ rom installed and followed the wiki to unhide the ExtROM and have no problems. In fact I've installed a few applications and selected the ExtROM as the location to install it.
Pardon me for being ignorant, but what is the benefit of installing to the ExtROM? Does it mean that when doing a hardreset the applications are still installed?
Maybe in this way you can UNhide and WRITE on the ExtROM, but in this case sometimes all files contents inside them become corrupted, because this method enable to write on extrom but don't correct bad sectors.....so, is useless...

blank extended rom?

Hi, will the blank extended rom on the wizard work on the tytn?
Thanks in advance.
Ray_jai said:
Hi, will the blank extended rom on the wizard work on the tytn?
Thanks in advance.
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Probably not, what is it you are wanting to do?
I noticed my tytn battery seems to run out fast, even on a clean rom.
So i think the extended rom could be doing it.
Ray_jai said:
I noticed my tytn battery seems to run out fast, even on a clean rom.
So i think the extended rom could be doing it.
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Interesting theory...flash a standard carrier WM6 ROM...which should use the ext_rom for setup stuff....do some tests and see if that changes anything.
Though i gotta say it seems a bit of a strange conclusion that the ext_rom memory area is draining the battery?!?
Are you running a superstorage ROM then i take it?
I did it on my wizard and my battery life went to 2.5 days with slight use.
Ray_jai said:
I did it on my wizard and my battery life went to 2.5 days with slight use.
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So maybe making an ext_rom with zero usage...which can be made with the HTC image editor if i remember correctly....do a quick search for it (or i may have it on file somewhere)..
flash it alongside a standard WM6 ROM (non superstorage)......dont bother booting and then flash the WM6/WM6.1 ROM of your choice?? essentially wiping the unused area of memory with zeros perhaps?
Id like to see the results of this if you do have a go?
Are you superCID? if so then flash a normal WM6 ROM, unlock the ext_rom and delete everything in there, this might do the same thing?
thanks for your help guys, But I don't know what you guys are talking about. I know how to cook my own rom by following noobie proof guides, but I have no idea what i'm doing (like no idea what the steps are actually doing to the rom, but i know what i'm clicking?)
most of the roms i cooked for myself failed and always have some programs missing.
Thanks

bigstorage hardreset fix?

the faq says if you use a BS rom you have to install first an OS rom. after that you can install the cooked rom.
but what if there is a new version of your cooked rom? can you now flash it over your current rom or do you still have to flash an OS rom first again?
arty said:
the faq says if you use a BS rom you have to install first an OS rom. after that you can install the cooked rom.
but what if there is a new version of your cooked rom? can you now flash it over your current rom or do you still have to flash an OS rom first again?
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Every time you go from a bigstorage rom to another bigstorage flash a shipped rom.
It should be fine going to a non bigstorage, but better safe than sorry!
veyka said:
Every time you go from a bigstorage rom to another bigstorage flash a shipped rom.
It should be fine going to a non bigstorage, but better safe than sorry!
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Agreed, tbh you should be OK aslong as you dont flash the crap outta your device all the time. Should you encounter a HArd Reset or freeze then follow veyka's advise and flash an official ROM to in essence correctly "format" your device before using the bigstorage ROM.
understood, thx.
if i get it right the big storage overwrights the extrom partition
the official rom formats it again with extrom
so you can using it again with BS rom ? right so far ?
so if we build the BS with EXTROM then the flashing process will be SPLASH ,SPLASH2 , EXTROM , OS
so the extrom will be formated first and then overwriten with BS OS ?
anryl said:
if i get it right the big storage overwrights the extrom partition
the official rom formats it again with extrom
so you can using it again with BS rom ? right so far ?
so if we build the BS with EXTROM then the flashing process will be SPLASH ,SPLASH2 , EXTROM , OS
so the extrom will be formated first and then overwriten with BS OS ?
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That sounds right, can you do that?
veyka said:
That sounds right, can you do that?
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that is not a problem with nbhgen some official extrom
and this config file
HERM***
SuperCID
3.62.305.5
WWE
600,MainSplash.nb
601,SubSplash.nb
700,ExtROM.nb
400,os-new.nb
That should work. its just doing the same thing as we do manually! Would it make flashing a lot longer?
I'm using the PDACorner V23 RBSN and i'v flashed it after v22 RBSN, done manually HR and reflashed again w/o flashing shipped rom before and no problem till now. Thanks.
veyka said:
That should work. its just doing the same thing as we do manually! Would it make flashing a lot longer?
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the extrom from sdcard doesnt take to long its some more sec. it has only 11MB more
anryl said:
that is not a problem with nbhgen some official extrom
and this config file
HERM***
SuperCID
3.62.305.5
WWE
600,MainSplash.nb
601,SubSplash.nb
700,ExtROM.nb
400,os-new.nb
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To sum things up I guess the problem is that the formating is only done partially but the entire partition is expected to be ready after installation - If that's the case we just need to format the whole BigStorage partition including what would be reserved for ExtStorage, right?
I don't know how or what formats the OS partition during initial install but that is what needs tweaking! I am going to look into cooking that and post back here unless a Chef already post the How-To answer...

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