Hi all,
I woukd like to know if it's possible edit and modyfing radio image.
I'm tryng to change speech algo to create a new encriptation codec algo.
Many thanks in advance
Alex
nobody but the gsm modul makers have don it so far as far as i know
you prob need a pretty good interface from the gsm modul chip makers not to ruin anything
and you cant depend on the radio rom being anything like the radio rom on another device
if you cant get the gsm module makers to give you info about the interface you are likely to break a bunch of laws trying to change it being that you will be likely to transmit invalid illegal stuff on the gsm frequincy
you cant depend on the radio being programmed in any high lvl language like c most such special purpos embedded software is in asm for the cntrl and or dsp using by the modul
good luck
I know that exist some Qtek with speech encripted like this:
http://www.accessweb.it/en/crypto_phones.htm
and that it's possible without changing nothing, but only working around Radio rom.
BR
Alex
First, it can be perfectly possible, but it does not matter - because instead of some big distributor, you won't be able to obtain the needed developer documentation and tools to make own custom radio firmware.
Second, are you sure its custom radio rom and not just some encryption application like SecureGSM?
Ingvarr said:
First, it can be perfectly possible, but it does not matter - because instead of some big distributor, you won't be able to obtain the needed developer documentation and tools to make own custom radio firmware.
Second, are you sure its custom radio rom and not just some encryption application like SecureGSM?
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I know that can be used some application with AES algo "Rijndael" and also working around Radio rom.
BR
Alex
well the whole issue with htc phones not being able to have software answering machines or listening to music while talking and the likes
was because the audio was 100% seperate from the pda when gsm was active
so normal software running on the pda simply could not access the audio stream being directed to the gsm module while the conversation was active
you can find alot of info about it if you search for
answering machine
Rudegar said:
well the whole issue with htc phones not being able to have software answering machines or listening to music while talking and the likes
was because the audio was 100% seperate from the pda when gsm was active
so normal software running on the pda simply could not access the audio stream being directed to the gsm module while the conversation was active
you can find alot of info about it if you search for
answering machine
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AES Rijndael algo SW for PDA use internal modem to speech call so you make a data call.
Alex
You dont need any custom firmware to do GSM data calls.
Its a standard feature.
Ingvarr said:
You dont need any custom firmware to do GSM data calls.
Its a standard feature.
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Yes, but I've used one custom SW that make an encripted AES Algo speech call with other phone and same SW installed through modem and data call.
http://www.raseac.com.br/page_1172981009738.html look here
Alex
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Anyone please help me to unlock this model. I have bought for sometime but could not use it. The details ;
ROM Version 1.35.00 WWE
ROM Date 12/10/04
Radio Version HA01_140
Protocol Version A43.3.301
PRL Version N/A
Ext ROM Version 1.35.113-WWE
Platform PPC
Thank you
Anton
asugiono said:
Anyone please help me to unlock this model. I have bought for sometime but could not use it. The details ;
ROM Version 1.35.00 WWE
ROM Date 12/10/04
Radio Version HA01_140
Protocol Version A43.3.301
PRL Version N/A
Ext ROM Version 1.35.113-WWE
Platform PPC
Thank you
Anton
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did you try this tools ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24779
Dude, WTF are you talking about, lol!
It's a CDMA phone, it's not locked. No CDMA phones are. If you are talking about the "unlock code" to access the programming menu to enter the IMEI it's based off the ESN so you have to call the carrier to get it. It also come times depends how many times the phone has been programmed but not on this phone.
It's a Verizon phone, what carrier are you trying to activate it under? You are going to have to contact your carrier and see if you can get a tech to add it's ESN to their system and then have a tech install that carriers PRL file.
Hi, thanks for the tips.
So, what I have to do is bring the phone to the new carrier and ask them to add the ESN? Do they will need any unlocking code from Verizon? Please hep me to explain to them. Thank alot for your help
You can't just walk into a store or call their customer support. Hopefully you already have service and just need to do an ESN change. Also I presume the carrier you want is also CDMA correct?
You are going to cautiously ask a tech in a store if they know someone at corporate who can add an ESN to their system and you may have to make it worth his while. Then he is going to have to download that carriers PRL for you. Then he himself can do the ESN change and programming. Based on the ESN he should be able to figure the unlock code for the programming menu or he may have to do it over the air.
Lastly and very important, you are going to have to hard reset and install the ExtROM for your carriers version of that phone. If it's Telus or Sprint we can help you with that.
asugiono said:
Anyone please help me to unlock this model. I have bought for sometime but could not use it. The details ;
ROM Version 1.35.00 WWE
ROM Date 12/10/04
Radio Version HA01_140
Protocol Version A43.3.301
PRL Version N/A
Ext ROM Version 1.35.113-WWE
Platform PPC
Thank you
Anton
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Hello.
Did you unlock your phone?. How did you do it?. I have an Audiovox XV6600WOC (PH20A2 CDMA).I need to quit from Verizon because I am in anoher country and I would like to put new cell line.
Thanks in advance, Rol&
Dude, you have to do what I posted. Did you even read this thread? lol...
WHAT IS PRL?
92GTA said:
Dude, you have to do what I posted. Did you even read this thread? lol...
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Thanks 92GTA.
I went to my new carrier Telefonica del Peru:
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Priority 2
32385 [D] RM ?? (Peru)
32509 [D] RM ?? (Peru)
32511 [D] RM Telefonica Del Peru - Lima (Peru)
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But they couldn't give me a PRL.
WHAT IS PRL?
Is it a complex file?
Is it just a secuence of numbers?
Is it a special program *.prl?
Where can I find the infamous PRL to transer into the phone an update the old?. Currently appears PRL version 50224.
An the *.prl file appears in blank.
Thanks in advance.
Rol&
asugiono said:
Anyone please help me to unlock this model. I have bought for sometime but could not use it. The details ;
ROM Version 1.35.00 WWE
ROM Date 12/10/04
Radio Version HA01_140
Protocol Version A43.3.301
PRL Version N/A
Ext ROM Version 1.35.113-WWE
Platform PPC
Thank you
Anton
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is it possible to upgrade to wm5 / wm6 ?? i have the same spec..., with wm2003 se ROM : 1.36.00 wwe
many thanks
variabel_xxx said:
is it possible to upgrade to wm5 / wm6 ?? i have the same spec..., with wm2003 se ROM : 1.36.00 wwe
many thanks
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if its a harrier theres no wm5,wm6,wm6.1 nor wm6.5 for these phones sorry, but in the other hand if its a HCT blue angel the gsm variant then yes.
Not using Radio
I have an old Sprint PPC 6600 (PH20A2). It is not activated for service on Sprint. Since I am not using the Radio, will a Blue Angel ROM work for me to give me WM 5 or higher. I'd like to have this device run WM 5 or higher so I can test and use other WM programs before I use them on my Touch Pro.
Verizon XV6600 To MetroPCS ESN issue
I have everything working correctly, simply by loading the PRL and changing some options in the service menu (dialed ##778<talk> code:000000) I can contact MetroPCS, recieve notification of voicemail but I cannot make calls or receive them because the ESN is not is not registered with their company. I contacted them over the phone and spoke with them personally at a local store but they said they couldnt do it for this particular phone. So is there a way to change my ESN or clone the ESN of the phone I currently own and have service for?
FYI:MetroPCS flashes the rom and then clones the ESN numbers, so its perfectly legal in Florida.
sumokid said:
I have everything working correctly, simply by loading the PRL and changing some options in the service menu (dialed ##778<talk> code:000000) I can contact MetroPCS, recieve notification of voicemail but I cannot make calls or receive them because the ESN is not is not registered with their company. I contacted them over the phone and spoke with them personally at a local store but they said they couldnt do it for this particular phone. So is there a way to change my ESN or clone the ESN of the phone I currently own and have service for?
FYI:MetroPCS flashes the rom and then clones the ESN numbers, so its perfectly legal in Florida.
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+1.
This forum has been vital in helping my in every aspect in getting my 6600 from VZW to Sprint. Now I just need to change the ESN number over to a sprint one so I can use the phone.
Any thoughts? Its just something to use in the interim until a more permanent solution arises.
Help?
i don't really know about the harrier and also i don't really have a clue about cdma networks, we don't have stuff like that in europe, but anyways, i was curious and googled "ESN number" and guess what popped up 3rd in search, a way to change it. at least for normal phones, anyways, here's the link, maybe it can help you:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2051233_change-esn-number.html
and by just looking at the screenshots, it actually might work, since all that is just dependable of a virtual com port, assigned to usb and seems independant from the phone's os, just need the modem drivers.
and maybe this might help you too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=846264&postcount=6
i really don't know whether any of that was helpful, but since i am already here and there are hardly any harrier users around, might anyone want to explain to me, why there even is such a problem? maybe i could help and search things more effectively then, basicly i just know about gsm, and my phone works with any card, and my card works with any phone, my carrier does not know about my imei, my brand, my phone model or my position. they just know my name, birthday and address, they don't even have my bank information or anything.
that is why i don't get all the lockings and restrictions and probably am a poor help right now.
greetz and best luck
Chef_Tony
Chef_Tony said:
i don't really know about the harrier and also i don't really have a clue about cdma networks, we don't have stuff like that in europe, but anyways, i was curious and googled "ESN number" and guess what popped up 3rd in search, a way to change it. at least for normal phones, anyways, here's the link, maybe it can help you:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2051233_change-esn-number.html
and by just looking at the screenshots, it actually might work, since all that is just dependable of a virtual com port, assigned to usb and seems independant from the phone's os, just need the modem drivers.
and maybe this might help you too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=846264&postcount=6
i really don't know whether any of that was helpful, but since i am already here and there are hardly any harrier users around, might anyone want to explain to me, why there even is such a problem? maybe i could help and search things more effectively then, basicly i just know about gsm, and my phone works with any card, and my card works with any phone, my carrier does not know about my imei, my brand, my phone model or my position. they just know my name, birthday and address, they don't even have my bank information or anything.
that is why i don't get all the lockings and restrictions and probably am a poor help right now.
greetz and best luck
Chef_Tony
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Yes, I've tried that several times before, but the phone never uses a specific port when connecting via USB or blue tooth. It never shows up/is recognized on QPST even when connected to the cradle, and or in Bootloader mode. It seems that, unfortunately, in order for QPST to connect to the phone, the phone needs to be in DM (daig mode) which doesnt seem to exist because the code ##diag+talk or ##diag# nor any supplied before manages to set the phone in said mode. I've spent countless hours searching the net looking for an answer and so far nothing has come up. Which is why I decided to post here. My last and most recent discovery has been dmrouter.exe but so far I havent been able to try it. If it works I'll post it as a solution here. If it does not then I think I'm going to sell my phone and buy a blackberry...
Sorry guys, but no luck. The most i managed to do was dump the ROM to the SD card and play with the data. I'll have to look deeper into it to determine how to change the ESN since its quite a bit of data.
here is a link to the instructions if you're interested in giving it a try yourselves:
http://www.myehud.com/ppc6600/upgrade/204instructions_3.txt
have fun and good luck.
Dear All senior members of this forum,
i'm confused in understanding the areas taken care by updating the RADIO ROM of UNIVERSAL. can anyone just list down the benifits for updating a radio rom.
i want to make sure if one has to stay updated with the latest radio rom available of would the stock radio rom (Mine 1.09.00) stays fine forever.
looking forward,
farhaan rehmani
hi farehmani, I'm not a guru nor a senior member. But from what I understand.. updates radio ROMS are musch like the same as updated sortware. It has fixes for old problems like bad reception, low quality call audio... stuff like that.
But from what I've heard, the best radio for you also depends on your carrier/location... so just try all of 'em out. See which works best for you... you can easily change radio ROM versions anyway (no need to do hard reset, a soft reset is enough).
I would say, "if its aint broken, don't fix it"
Generally, the latest radio ROM gives you better reception, better sound quality. There are some people on this forum, who had problems with their device with respect to the latency of their devices in answering the calls. Most of them got it resolved by upgrading their device to the latest radio(ATM, the latest one is 1.15)
So, the bottomline is that if you facing problem(s) with your device regarding its phone part, the, you may consider upgrading the radio
thanx but i have another question...
Thanx for answering,
i asked this question cuz since i updated my pda with Jwrightmcps's ROM 2.02.00 WWE. i am unable to send MMS (there is no problem in settings) as it keeps the mms in the outbox with a pending sign of clock on it after uploading 95 or say 99%. secondly i was unable to sign in the MSN Live with this.
i used Radio 1.13.00. Could this be the problem. cuz i used 1.14.00 and 1.09.00 with previous versions of Win CE ROMS. they worked like a dream.
pls. advise.
farehmani.
kdskamal said:
I would say, "if its aint broken, don't fix it"
Generally, the latest radio ROM gives you better reception, better sound quality. There are some people on this forum, who had problems with their device with respect to the latency of their devices in answering the calls. Most of them got it resolved by upgrading their device to the latest radio(ATM, the latest one is 1.15)
So, the bottomline is that if you facing problem(s) with your device regarding its phone part, the, you may consider upgrading the radio
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the mms problem is not in the radio rom or Jw's rom. you just need to download the cab file with your operator settings and then you will be set.
madmattco said:
the mms problem is not in the radio rom or Jw's rom. you just need to download the cab file with your operator settings and then you will be set.
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I concur, it's not really the radio. It's either the WM6 ROM itself or you haven't got the correct settings.
i have read the wiki but still dont get it i can unrar jw newest rom just to get the radio only.but i have radio 15 from other source.how can i put it to my device?thanks
Can I use a ROM from one model phone to another. Ex. can I use the ROM from a Blackstone and use it on a Fuze? I know I can use the blackstone radio but how about the ROM?
thanks
fuzeman219 said:
Can I use a ROM from one model phone to another. Ex. can I use the ROM from a Blackstone and use it on a Fuze? I know I can use the blackstone radio but how about the ROM?
thanks
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NO!
You can't use another device ROM or RADIO.
thank you sir, but you say you cant use the radio either? in other forums people are using different radios, ex. blackstone radio on a raphael, (fuze)
Yes you can use radios in 2 cases:
1) the radios are compatible. If you're not sure, don't flash it.
2) the phone is security unlocked.
Also, to use a ROM from another device it must be dumped and then ported in a Kitchen, you can't just flash it. The Kernel's and drivers just won't work.
Dave
Well, a teacher I had, always told "you can, but you must not". You can jump down from the roof of a highscraper, but you should not have to do it...
So, you MUST NOT flash a ROM of a device into another different one. Yes, you have tools to do it, but you'll probably get an electronic brick to put in any hole of a brick wall.
There's a part of the ROM which is specific for the device. Another part is specific for the OS. So, some parts of a ROM are related to WM6.1 or WM6.5, etc. and some others are related to a device. That's what is called the Kernel, mainly related to a nk.exe file inside the ROM files. In example, we can run WM6.5 into a Kaiser with a nk.exe belonging to a kaiser and WM6.1... BUT for running same OS of a different device, (i.e. Opal's WM6.1 into Kaiser) you'll completely inutilize (maybe forever) the device. Yes, you can do it if sou have enough money to buy another device, but if you don't want it, I suggest you to send me your device or give it for charity, but not to destroy it.
Another thing you can do is, as you were told, "dumping" the ROM, this is extracting all the files and structure, and then port it (this is, adapting it) to your device's needs - this means, getting your specific drivers and kernel files and substituting them into the folders you obtained of the ROM. (Also, getting the correct screen resolution files). In example, nk.exe and other files will be different for a Kaiser and for a Herald. And you should have different Camera files, as the drivers are different for one device and the other one. Also, a Touch HD uses different screen resolution that a Herald... so you must find the correct files for every device.
This looong post is to tell you that using ROMs from other phones is RISKY and also it GETS LOTS OF JOB (and TIME), and you'll always miss something. Only good, big teams, like to do it, not an only person. And they spend days, weeks, and must correct bugs and make trials and risk their devices even if they have lots of experience.
thanks
thanks folks, makes complete sense..
this leads to another question, how do you know if the radio is compatible with another device, ex. the blackstone radio with a raphael? I know the simple answer is to read the forums, which I have, but besides taking someones word for it, how do you know?
fuzeman219 said:
thanks folks, makes complete sense..
this leads to another question, how do you know if the radio is compatible with another device, ex. the blackstone radio with a raphael? I know the simple answer is to read the forums, which I have, but besides taking someones word for it, how do you know?
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You have to know about the chips in the phone and what's in the radio firmwhere, I leave it upto the experts .
Just take peoples word for it, if in doubt, don't use it.
Dave
I know nothing about radios. Could someone please explain to me what it means and what it does for you? I have T-Mobile and only get 2 to 0 3G bars at work. It is really interfering with my music streaming. Would love to get more bars. I have a stock ROM and am not interested in flashing a new ROM.
T-Mobile
HTC TP2
WM 6.1 Prof
Radio 3.5.25.14
Stock ROM
thebrenda said:
I know nothing about radios. Could someone please explain to me what it means and what it does for you? I have T-Mobile and only get 2 to 0 3G bars at work. It is really interfering with my music streaming. Would love to get more bars. I have a stock ROM and am not interested in flashing a new ROM.
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"Radio" in reference to "new radio" or "flashing a radio" refers to a radio rom -- it's a software thing. And it affects (at least) your cell connection as well as your GPS connection...and probably how well the radio uses power and affects battery life. And I'm very happy with the new radio I'm using -- better than the stock radio.
But in order to flash a new radio (radio-rom) you need to first do the HardSPL thing, which is also required before flashing an OS rom.
So, if you say you don't want to flash a new OS rom (to avoid voiding your warranty, for example), then you probably won't want to do the HardSPL either, because that's as major (from a non-stock standpoint) as flashing a rom.
If you read just a few threads above this one you´ll find some interesting answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679322
I have done quite a bit of reading but it still is not clicking. I need a beginners article. I will find it, but have not yet.
So the Hard-SPL thing-a-ma-jiggy at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131 - is that just for the radio or a ROM / radio. I do not mind flashing a radio, just do not want to flash a ROM because I don't have a need and do not want to spend the rest of my life on this new toy - i mean necessary piece of office equipment.
What radio would the Hard-SPL at that link give me? Is it true that software alone can increase the number of 3G bars?
thebrenda said:
So the Hard-SPL thing-a-ma-jiggy at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131 - is that just for the radio or a ROM / radio. I do not mind flashing a radio, just do not want to flash a ROM because I don't have a need and do not want to spend the rest of my life on this new toy - i mean necessary piece of office equipment.
What radio would the Hard-SPL at that link give me? Is it true that software alone can increase the number of 3G bars?
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I don't know the technical explanation...but the HardSPL is necessary in order to flash any rom -- that means a new radio (rom) or a new custom OS rom. (By "OS--rom" I mean all of those custom roms listed in all those threads in the TP2 Windows Mobile ROM Development sub-forum) The phone won't accept the non-stock rom (including radio-rom) without the HardSPL.
The HardSPL doesn't change anything else, though. You still have the same radio and the same stock rom. But it's necessary to do that before you flash a non-stock radio-rom or a non-stock OS rom.
Radio-roms (software) can improve your reception...but which one will/may do that depends on where you're located and other factors, so you would probably want to try more than one -- but once you've done it you'll see it's easy. It's also possible that 3G coverage in your area is simply poor.
If you need/want more details about alternative radio-roms you probably should post in the Rhodium GSM Radio Collection thread.
MCbrian said:
I don't know the technical explanation...but the HardSPL is necessary in order to flash any rom -- that means a new radio (rom) or a new custom OS rom. (By "OS--rom" I mean all of those custom roms listed in all those threads in the TP2 Windows Mobile ROM Development sub-forum) The phone won't accept the non-stock rom (including radio-rom) without the HardSPL.
The HardSPL doesn't change anything else, though. You still have the same radio and the same stock rom. But it's necessary to do that before you flash a non-stock radio-rom or a non-stock OS rom.
Radio-roms (software) can improve your reception...but which one will/may do that depends on where you're located and other factors, so you would probably want to try more than one -- but once you've done it you'll see it's easy. It's also possible that 3G coverage in your area is simply poor.
If you need/want more details about alternative radio-roms you probably should post in the Rhodium GSM Radio Collection thread.
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Perfect answer, amigo!
Brenda, I saw that you were thinking about doing the tmo 6.5 upgrade anyway, which of course includes the .57 radio, and that's the path I would suggest...it'll let you try out wm6.5 as well as that radio, and flashing an official upgrade like that is even easier than doing the HSPL-custom rom thing. So, that way you can see if either of those changes are good for you, with minimum effort and hassle. If the .57 radio doesn't seem to offer any improvement, then you can start getting into flashing others to try...and if you do then I suggest you start with the one MCBrian has in his sig, .77
Thanks sirphunkee for all you rhelp. I will take your advice. I was going to upgrade to 6.5 right away but decided to load a ton of software on my phone first to see what I liked. Well .... I like it all. Now I have so much software that I do not want to take a weekend to reload everything. But I will have to bite the bullet. I sit in a cube all day and like to listen to streaming music. I have napster but I like the unpredictability and pleasant surprises that a streaming station can offer. The low bars are interfering with my music.
I have kept good notes on all my applications installs and have all the software and "fixes". Have screen prints of all my "setups" for email. I use activesync with my desktop Outlook so all of that is saved. Don't think that there is anything else to save. Just wonder if you have any advice before I upgrade. Is there anything I should do before wiping clean my device? Should I clean my program files, outlook attachments, etc on my storage card?
Hello,
sorry if this is a stupid question, but is each of these?
Thanks!
huxflux2003 said:
Hello,
sorry if this is a stupid question, but is each of these?
Thanks!
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so ehm... what do you really want to know?
What is CDC, PDA and PHONE?
When someone asks "What firmware are you using?", which of these is the correct answer? I see that i have JM5 for PDA and JM1 for PHONE and CDC.
I guees he wants to know which file has the correspondance in odin:
csc --> csc
modem --> phone
code --> pda
My turn to guess
Maybe he wants to know what firmware we use.
In my case, I use :
CODE_I9000XWJM7.tar.md5
MODEM_I9000XXJM3.tar.md5
CSC_I9000OXAJM1.tar.md5
from samfirmware.com
filou75 said:
My turn to guess
Maybe he wants to know what firmware we use.
In my case, I use :
CODE_I9000XWJM7.tar.md5
MODEM_I9000XXJM3.tar.md5
CSC_I9000OXAJM1.tar.md5
from samfirmware.com
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Which would work out as you are running JM7.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Hehe I guess the question was not very clear.
I just to know what each software component is, functionality wise. What does PDA control? Is PHONE the firmware used by the radio? What about CDC?
huxflux2003 said:
Hehe I guess the question was not very clear.
I just to know what each software component is, functionality wise. What does PDA control? Is PHONE the firmware used by the radio? What about CDC?
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It's not really that your question wasn't clear, but you're dropping a few words, so... yeah, your question wasn't clear
Anyway, from the pinned topic called "[REF] BIG FAQ! {Flash/Root HOWTO} {ADB&Tutorials} {T&T} {FW-Guide} [MUST READ!]" :
3.Why are there multiple files in the firmware archive/folder?/Why do I get three different versions when using *#1234#?
Galaxy S firmware updates come in three parts:
-The CODE itself (called PDA). This is android and all the applications that come with it. (The archives/folders will be named after the version of this file)
-The MODEM (called Phone). This is the firmware of the wireless chipset of the device and will operate you WiFi, Blutooth and 3G/2G/GSM connections. (ie Radio ROM)
-The CSC (short for Customer Specific Customization). This includes connection data for the broadband networks as well as apps that are only available in certain languages/intended for a specific area.
If we ask for your firmware, we want to know all three!
Since not all of these require updates simultaneously, often then CSC and MODEM files will have lower version numbers.
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Learn how to use the search function Edit : Oh, and how to double check your post before posting, for that matter